Hi gang. I flew up to Gimli beside the lake yesterday and checked out the ice
situation. The shoreline is of course bare, but ice is not too far out. The
water looked pretty open north of Gimli, so maybe we just need a couple of
strong south wind days to clear it up. Willow is almost wide open; there's just
a stubborn bit of ice in the south corner of the lagoon.

Good news; windsurfing's a week or two away. Bad news; I'm still recovering from
a broken collarbone suffered in Maui, so I'm a good month out yet. Looking
foward to seeing you all in June.

Al

Hi,

I want to organize wednesday night racing in Manitoba.  The locations
that come to mind are Gimli, and possibly Victoria Beach.

I want to get an idea of who would be interested in this.  It will be
open class racing of course and would be nice to run slalom if the
wind is strong enough.

Lawrence

Looking for a 460 mast with 70% carbon or better. Dave at 3397581

----- Original Message -----

From: Brad Woodworth

To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:44 AM

Subject: Re: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Info on windsurfing in Cabarete requested

There's a Vela Windsurf resort in Cabarete you can get lessons and gear:

http://www.velawindsurf.com/cabarete/

 

There's also the Carib Wind Center:
http://www.caribwind.com/

 

Some good info on Cabarete windsurfing here:
http://www.cabaretewindsurfing.com/windsurfing.php

 

Have a great trip and post some stories on the forum when you return!

 

 

Woody - CAN757

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Gryc <pgryc@...>
Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:43 pm
Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Info on windsurfing in Cabarete requested
To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com

> Hi, Al:
> I wonder if you can help me with some suggestions regarding
> windsurfing lessons in Cabarete. I will be there with my wife
> Dec23-30/08.
> We will be staying in all incl hotel Paraiso Tropical Cabarete.
> Do you know how and with whom to prebook windsurfing
> schools/instructions?
> I would appreciate your help
>
> Regards
>
> peter gryc
>

looking for 430 mast with 50% carbon or better Dave 339-7581

Re: Tuesday Sept 16, Is any body going out  to Pat ? let me know 339 7581

Dear Manitoba Windsurfing Club members,

I am writing to see if anyone might have an old board that they no
longer want/use (preferably about 8' to 9').  I'd be willing to pick
one up almost anywhere in southern Manitoba.

I don't yet windsurf, but I have gotten massively addicted to wave
surfing over the last couple summers (while in the UK).

I work at Delta Marsh on the south shore of Lake Manitoba every fall
between September and November.  I think that it may just be possible
to catch some of the larger wind waves that we get out here during
the fall storms.  My idea is to try out a large board using a stand-
up paddle surfing approach if possible and failing that, to try
surfing them traditional longboard style.  I've a decent wetsuit so
that I can keep trying right up till freeze up!

Anyway, please contact me if you can help me out with this.  I'd also
be quite willing to bring your old board back to you once things
start freezing up.

Thanks for reading,
Chris

Sorry Dave, can't make it. Out of town for a week; maybe next weekend.
Only a few more left.......

--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "davidcarels"
<davidcarels@...> wrote:
>
> Let me know. 339 7581 Dave
>

Let me know. 339 7581 Dave

Well when we got there I was moderately to overpowered on my 5.9,
button soon became overpowered.  Then I rigged my 5.2 and took out my
85l board. That last about 15 minutes and then i was overpowered.  So i
rigged my 4.8 and sailed that for 30-45 minutes before being blown off
the water.  I then rigged my 4.0 and tried to sail, but i was still
overpowered.

Mark was on a 3.5 and overpowered by the end of the day.

The waves were nice though, and it was wnw.



--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Alsurf"
<almcelroy@...> wrote:
>
> How was it?
>
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
> <donthiessen@> wrote:
> >
> > looks like it could be a classic, I can now come out and play.  See
> you
> > there.
> >
>

How was it?


--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
<donthiessen@...> wrote:
>
> looks like it could be a classic, I can now come out and play.  See
you
> there.
>

looks like it could be a classic, I can now come out and play.  See you
there.

looks like a great day. See you all there.

Al

The gathering of the clan; this was the largest number of windsurfers
I've seen at once since I moved to Manitoba. Let's see.....; Bill,
Dave, Steve, Michelle, Al, Rusty, Chris, Barry, Harvey, and I know I've
missed somebody or two (Don, were you there..?). I think there were 10
people on the water at Willow on Tuesday, and generally on 4.7 and
smaller. YA freakin' HOO!!

Props to all who made it for the excellent sesh, and particularly to
Barry for hanging on and having fun in his first exposure to nukin'
winds!

And Don, we're SO sorry you couldn't make it, but we all want you to
know we respect your dedication to your job (heh, heh!)

Al

Looks like Willow will be the call tomorrow; wind is supposed to be
30ish from the south.....



--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley Snyder
<snydes2@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Al,
>  
> I appreciate yours and all of the other good advice I have
received. I will do my best to make it out to the Gimli area before
the snow files.
>  
> Happy sailling.
>
> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Alsurf <almcelroy@...> wrote:
>
> From: Alsurf <almcelroy@...>
> Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: new gear, water start
> To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:33 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is for Brad
>
> In my earlier post I said turn off Hwy 8; that should have been hwy
> 9. The turnoff is immediately north of (I think) road 109.
>
> Al
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, "Alsurf"
> <almcelroy@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Re waterstarting hints; I'll add one more to Don's excellent
> advice.
> > If you're having trouble clearing the big sail from the water,
> start
> > at the sail tip, ie the very end of the mast. Lift that out of
the
> > water with the leading edge into the wind, and then work your way
> > down the mast to the boom. This works every time to get a big
sail
> > out of the water. However, that's a BIG sail for a 120 litre
board;
> > It's probably a handful in wind over 25k. Definitely get a couple
> of
> > smaller sails for higher wind; maybe a 4.7 or 5.0 and a 5.5-6.0.
> You
> > will need at least one more mast and probably another boom unless
> > yours has a very large adjustment range. There's lots of used
gear
> > out there if you get talking to other sailors.
> >
> > I'll add one more good sailing site to the Grand Beach
suggestion.
> If
> > the wind's from the south, there's excellent flat-water sailing
at
> > Willow Lagoon south of Gimli. Go to (off HWy 8) Willow Island
Road
> > and turn in; if it's blowing over 25 or 30k you'll usually find a
> few
> > of us there. It's a great place to learn to water start.
> >
> > See you on the water!
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, "donthiessen"
> > <donthiessen@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
> > > waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will
> work.
> > > As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
> > > recommends. Sails are very dependent on having the right rig
for
> > > proper performance.
> > >
> > > For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first.
This
> > > means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower
and
> > put
> > > your sail into the wind. Put you back foot on the board and
then
> > let
> > > the wind pick you up out of the water.
> > >
> > > Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
> > > position the board and sail to water start.
> > >
> > > If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail,
you
> > > will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind
and
> > have
> > > the wind help you lift it out of the water. Personally I find
> > > waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so
> much
> > > surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you
> will
> > > find a 6.0 much easier.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, Bradley
Snyder
> > > <snydes2@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
> > > >  
> > > > I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the
Woods
> > for
> > > over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and
> > purchased
> > > a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit
came
> > > with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre
> mast
> > > and a 7.3 sail.
> > > >  
> > > > I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the
7.3
> > is
> > > very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to
> pick
> > up
> > > a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller
> > mast
> > > and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
> > > >  
> > > > Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type
> of
> > > sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
> > > >  
> > > > I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a
> really
> > > hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
> > > waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you
> have
> > > if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to
> clear
> > > the sail?
> > > >  
> > > > Any advice would be appreciated.
> > > >  
> > > > Brad Snyder
> > > >  
> > > > p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello.
I
> > > haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you
> want
> > to
> > > get rid of?
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: donthiessen <donthiessen@ >
> > > > Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfi ng_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
> > > > To: Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com
> > > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find
more
> > > then 1
> > > > or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a
day
> > when
> > > > it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island
> Lagoon
> > > early
> > > > in the summer.
> > > >
> > > > On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west
> > there
> > > may
> > > > be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is
necessary
> > > that
> > > > you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake
when
> > it's
> > > > realy windy.
> > > >
> > > > Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail
> near
> > > > Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
> > > suitable
> > > > for windsurfing.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
> > > >
> > > > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou
> ps.com, "manson_dave"
> > > > <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go
> that
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a
bunch
> > of
> > > > > people windsurfing?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

This is for Brad

In my earlier post I said turn off Hwy 8; that should have been hwy
9. The turnoff is immediately north of (I think) road 109.

Al


--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Alsurf"
<almcelroy@...> wrote:
>
> Re waterstarting hints; I'll add one more to Don's excellent
advice.
> If you're having trouble clearing the big sail from the water,
start
> at the sail tip, ie the very end of the mast. Lift that out of the
> water with the leading edge into the wind, and then work your way
> down the mast to the boom. This works every time to get a big sail
> out of the water. However, that's a BIG sail for a 120 litre board;
> It's probably a handful in wind over 25k. Definitely get a couple
of
> smaller sails for higher wind; maybe a 4.7 or 5.0 and a 5.5-6.0.
You
> will need at least one more mast and probably another boom unless
> yours has a very large adjustment range. There's lots of used gear
> out there if you get talking to other sailors.
>
> I'll add one more good sailing site to the Grand Beach suggestion.
If
> the wind's from the south, there's excellent flat-water sailing at
> Willow Lagoon south of Gimli. Go to (off HWy 8) Willow Island Road
> and turn in; if it's blowing over 25 or 30k you'll usually find a
few
> of us there. It's a great place to learn to water start.
>
> See you on the water!
>
> Al
>
>
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
> <donthiessen@> wrote:
> >
> > If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
> > waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will
work.
> > As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
> > recommends.  Sails are very dependent on having the right rig for
> > proper performance.
> >
> > For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first.  This
> > means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower and
> put
> > your sail into the wind.  Put you back foot on the board and then
> let
> > the wind pick you up out of the water.
> >
> > Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
> > position the board and sail to water start.
> >
> > If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail, you
> > will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind and
> have
> > the wind help you lift it out of the water.  Personally I find
> > waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so
much
> > surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you
will
> > find a 6.0 much easier.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley Snyder
> > <snydes2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
> > >  
> > > I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the Woods
> for
> > over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and
> purchased
> > a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit came
> > with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre
mast
> > and a 7.3 sail.
> > >  
> > > I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the 7.3
> is
> > very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to
pick
> up
> > a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller
> mast
> > and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
> > >  
> > > Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type
of
> > sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
> > >  
> > > I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a
really
> > hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
> > waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you
have
> > if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to
clear
> > the sail?
> > >  
> > > Any advice would be appreciated.
> > >  
> > > Brad Snyder
> > >  
> > > p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello. I
> > haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you
want
> to
> > get rid of?
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: donthiessen <donthiessen@>
> > > Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
> > > To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find more
> > then 1
> > > or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a day
> when
> > > it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island
Lagoon
> > early
> > > in the summer.
> > >
> > > On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west
> there
> > may
> > > be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is necessary
> > that
> > > you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake when
> it's
> > > realy windy.
> > >
> > > Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail
near
> > > Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
> > suitable
> > > for windsurfing.
> > >
> > > http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
> > >
> > > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou
ps.com, "manson_dave"
> > > <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go
that
> > would
> > > be
> > > > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a bunch
> of
> > > > people windsurfing?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Peter

I have a an extra 6.5 sail (North Tonic)with a Powerex carbon mast
that's for sale. Sorry, no boom. You can call me at 338 5777 or cell
230 7757.

Al



--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Gryc"
<pgryc@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All:
> I am looking to purchase a second hand larger sail, something about
6.5 m2, possibly with a mast and a boom. I have a 180L Hi Fly Mambo
board and a lower end mast/boom which are quite rigid and heavy that
came in a package with a 5.6m sail. I then purchased  a 4.7m sail
separately, but need a larger one for slower winds.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Peter
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Alsurf
>   To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 AM
>   Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: new gear, water start
>
>
>   Re waterstarting hints; I'll add one more to Don's excellent
advice.
>   If you're having trouble clearing the big sail from the water,
start
>   at the sail tip, ie the very end of the mast. Lift that out of
the
>   water with the leading edge into the wind, and then work your way
>   down the mast to the boom. This works every time to get a big
sail
>   out of the water. However, that's a BIG sail for a 120 litre
board;
>   It's probably a handful in wind over 25k. Definitely get a couple
of
>   smaller sails for higher wind; maybe a 4.7 or 5.0 and a 5.5-6.0.
You
>   will need at least one more mast and probably another boom unless
>   yours has a very large adjustment range. There's lots of used
gear
>   out there if you get talking to other sailors.
>
>   I'll add one more good sailing site to the Grand Beach
suggestion. If
>   the wind's from the south, there's excellent flat-water sailing
at
>   Willow Lagoon south of Gimli. Go to (off HWy 8) Willow Island
Road
>   and turn in; if it's blowing over 25 or 30k you'll usually find a
few
>   of us there. It's a great place to learn to water start.
>
>   See you on the water!
>
>   Al
>
>   --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
>   <donthiessen@> wrote:
>   >
>   > If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
>   > waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will
work.
>   > As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
>   > recommends. Sails are very dependent on having the right rig
for
>   > proper performance.
>   >
>   > For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first.
This
>   > means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower
and
>   put
>   > your sail into the wind. Put you back foot on the board and
then
>   let
>   > the wind pick you up out of the water.
>   >
>   > Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
>   > position the board and sail to water start.
>   >
>   > If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail,
you
>   > will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind
and
>   have
>   > the wind help you lift it out of the water. Personally I find
>   > waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so
much
>   > surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you
will
>   > find a 6.0 much easier.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley
Snyder
>   > <snydes2@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
>   > >
>   > > I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the
Woods
>   for
>   > over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and
>   purchased
>   > a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit
came
>   > with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre
mast
>   > and a 7.3 sail.
>   > >
>   > > I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the
7.3
>   is
>   > very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to
pick
>   up
>   > a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller
>   mast
>   > and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
>   > >
>   > > Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type
of
>   > sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
>   > >
>   > > I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a
really
>   > hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
>   > waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you
have
>   > if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to
clear
>   > the sail?
>   > >
>   > > Any advice would be appreciated.
>   > >
>   > > Brad Snyder
>   > >
>   > > p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello.
I
>   > haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you
want
>   to
>   > get rid of?
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > From: donthiessen <donthiessen@>
>   > > Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
>   > > To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
>   > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find
more
>   > then 1
>   > > or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a
day
>   when
>   > > it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island
Lagoon
>   > early
>   > > in the summer.
>   > >
>   > > On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west
>   there
>   > may
>   > > be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is
necessary
>   > that
>   > > you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake
when
>   it's
>   > > realy windy.
>   > >
>   > > Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail
near
>   > > Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
>   > suitable
>   > > for windsurfing.
>   > >
>   > > http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
>   > >
>   > > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou
ps.com, "manson_dave"
>   > > <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go
that
>   > would
>   > > be
>   > > > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a
bunch
>   of
>   > > > people windsurfing?
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alsurf

To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 AM

Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: new gear, water start

Re waterstarting hints; I'll add one more to Don's excellent advice.
If you're having trouble clearing the big sail from the water, start
at the sail tip, ie the very end of the mast. Lift that out of the
water with the leading edge into the wind, and then work your way
down the mast to the boom. This works every time to get a big sail
out of the water. However, that's a BIG sail for a 120 litre board;
It's probably a handful in wind over 25k. Definitely get a couple of
smaller sails for higher wind; maybe a 4.7 or 5.0 and a 5.5-6.0. You
will need at least one more mast and probably another boom unless
yours has a very large adjustment range. There's lots of used gear
out there if you get talking to other sailors.

I'll add one more good sailing site to the Grand Beach suggestion. If
the wind's from the south, there's excellent flat-water sailing at
Willow Lagoon south of Gimli. Go to (off HWy 8) Willow Island Road
and turn in; if it's blowing over 25 or 30k you'll usually find a few
of us there. It's a great place to learn to water start.

See you on the water!

Al

--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
<donthiessen@...> wrote:
>
> If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
> waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will work.
> As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
> recommends. Sails are very dependent on having the right rig for
> proper performance.
>
> For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first. This
> means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower and
put
> your sail into the wind. Put you back foot on the board and then
let
> the wind pick you up out of the water.
>
> Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
> position the board and sail to water start.
>
> If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail, you
> will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind and
have
> the wind help you lift it out of the water. Personally I find
> waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so much
> surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you will
> find a 6.0 much easier.
>
>
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley Snyder
> <snydes2@> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
> >  
> > I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the Woods
for
> over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and
purchased
> a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit came
> with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre mast
> and a 7.3 sail.
> >  
> > I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the 7.3
is
> very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to pick
up
> a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller
mast
> and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
> >  
> > Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type of
> sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
> >  
> > I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a really
> hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
> waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you have
> if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to clear
> the sail?
> >  
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >  
> > Brad Snyder
> >  
> > p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello. I
> haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you want
to
> get rid of?
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@> wrote:
> >
> > From: donthiessen <donthiessen@>
> > Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
> > To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find more
> then 1
> > or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a day
when
> > it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island Lagoon
> early
> > in the summer.
> >
> > On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west
there
> may
> > be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is necessary
> that
> > you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake when
it's
> > realy windy.
> >
> > Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail near
> > Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
> suitable
> > for windsurfing.
> >
> > http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
> >
> > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, "manson_dave"
> > <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go that
> would
> > be
> > > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a bunch
of
> > > people windsurfing?
> > >
> >
>

I'm probably heading to Willow later today. See you all there....

Al

Re waterstarting hints; I'll add one more to Don's excellent advice.
If you're having trouble clearing the big sail from the water, start
at the sail tip, ie the very end of the mast. Lift that out of the
water with the leading edge into the wind, and then work your way
down the mast to the boom. This works every time to get a big sail
out of the water. However, that's a BIG sail for a 120 litre board;
It's probably a handful in wind over 25k. Definitely get a couple of
smaller sails for higher wind; maybe a 4.7 or 5.0 and a 5.5-6.0. You
will need at least one more mast and probably another boom unless
yours has a very large adjustment range. There's lots of used gear
out there if you get talking to other sailors.

I'll add one more good sailing site to the Grand Beach suggestion. If
the wind's from the south, there's excellent flat-water sailing at
Willow Lagoon south of Gimli. Go to (off HWy 8) Willow Island Road
and turn in; if it's blowing over 25 or 30k you'll usually find a few
of us there. It's a great place to learn to water start.

See you on the water!

Al



--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "donthiessen"
<donthiessen@...> wrote:
>
> If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
> waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will work.
> As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
> recommends.  Sails are very dependent on having the right rig for
> proper performance.
>
> For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first.  This
> means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower and
put
> your sail into the wind.  Put you back foot on the board and then
let
> the wind pick you up out of the water.
>
> Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
> position the board and sail to water start.
>
> If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail, you
> will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind and
have
> the wind help you lift it out of the water.  Personally I find
> waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so much
> surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you will
> find a 6.0 much easier.
>
>
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley Snyder
> <snydes2@> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
> >  
> > I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the Woods
for
> over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and
purchased
> a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit came
> with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre mast
> and a 7.3 sail.
> >  
> > I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the 7.3
is
> very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to pick
up
> a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller
mast
> and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
> >  
> > Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type of
> sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
> >  
> > I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a really
> hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
> waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you have
> if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to clear
> the sail?
> >  
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >  
> > Brad Snyder
> >  
> > p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello. I
> haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you want
to
> get rid of?
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@> wrote:
> >
> > From: donthiessen <donthiessen@>
> > Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
> > To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find more
> then 1
> > or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a day
when
> > it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island Lagoon
> early
> > in the summer.
> >
> > On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west
there
> may
> > be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is necessary
> that
> > you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake when
it's
> > realy windy.
> >
> > Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail near
> > Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
> suitable
> > for windsurfing.
> >
> > http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
> >
> > --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, "manson_dave"
> > <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go that
> would
> > be
> > > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a bunch
of
> > > people windsurfing?
> > >
> >
>

If you are looking for a sail that will be easier to learn
waterstarting, probably something between a 5.5 and 6.0 will work.
As far as the boom/mast buy whatever the sail manufacturer
recommends.  Sails are very dependent on having the right rig for
proper performance.

For myself I learnt to water start by beach starting first.  This
means that you stand in water the is waist deep or shallower and put
your sail into the wind.  Put you back foot on the board and then let
the wind pick you up out of the water.

Do this a few times and you should have a good idea of how to
position the board and sail to water start.

If the board isn't long enough to rest your boom on the tail, you
will need to lift the leading edge of you sail into the wind and have
the wind help you lift it out of the water.  Personally I find
waterstarting sails like a 7.3 difficult because they have so much
surface area it is hard to get them out of the water, but you will
find a 6.0 much easier.



--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, Bradley Snyder
<snydes2@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the reply and welcoming me to the group.
>  
> I have been windsurfing on Clearwater Bay on Lake of the Woods for
over 10 years. I started out on a one class with a 7.4 and purchased
a 120 L fanatic shark from Boardsports 2 years ago. This kit came
with a 186-236cm north sails boom, 490cm 2 piece carbon fibre mast
and a 7.3 sail.
>  
> I can sail upwind, tack, gybe but cannot waterstart and the 7.3 is
very difficult to uphaul on super gusty days. I am wanting to pick up
a few smaller sails but I think that I will also need a smaller mast
and shorter boom to accomodate a storm sails (6.5 and smaller).
>  
> Is this the case? If so any suggestions on what size and type of
sail/mast/boom (kit) I should be looking at?
>  
> I would also welcome any advice on waterstarting. I have a really
hard time getting my heavy 7.3 out of the water to iniate the
waterstarting process. Are there any links or any thoughts you have
if you have a short board that you cannot rest the mast on to clear
the sail?
>  
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>  
> Brad Snyder
>  
> p.s. If Matt Robinson still gets this email drop me a hello. I
haven't seen you boys in 15 years! Any gear at Clearwater you want to
get rid of?
>  
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/10/08, donthiessen <donthiessen@...> wrote:
>
> From: donthiessen <donthiessen@...>
> Subject: [Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club] Re: Newbie, where to go
> To: Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find more
then 1
> or 2 sailors. Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a day when
> it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island Lagoon
early
> in the summer.
>
> On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west there
may
> be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is necessary
that
> you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake when it's
> realy windy.
>
> Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail near
> Winnipeg. Please note most of these are kiting sites and not
suitable
> for windsurfing.
>
> http://www.mts. net/~mhlady2/ windtracker. html
>
> --- In Manitoba_Windsurfin g_Club@yahoogrou ps.com, "manson_dave"
> <manson_dave@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go that
would
> be
> > good for a beginner. Is there a spot where I can find a bunch of
> > people windsurfing?
> >
>

Unfortunately not very many places left where you can find more then 1
or 2 sailors.  Your best bet is the Grand Beach Lagoon on a day when
it's blowing from the east or South, or the Willow Island Lagoon early
in the summer.

On a day when it's blowing strong from from the north or west there may
be people at Patricia Beach or Grand Beach, but it is necessary that
you be able to water start in order to go on the big lake when it's
realy windy.

Check out the link below for a good guide to places to sail near
Winnipeg.  Please note most of these are kiting sites and not suitable
for windsurfing.

http://www.mts.net/~mhlady2/windtracker.html

--- In Manitoba_Windsurfing_Club@yahoogroups.com, "manson_dave"
<manson_dave@...> wrote:
>
> I'm brand new to windsurfing and looking for places to go that would
be
> good for a beginner.  Is there a spot where I can find a bunch of
> people windsurfing?
>

I am also looking for a few other places to surf, I have been surfing
for the last couple of years, mostly at St.Ambroise, however have
moved from that area and would like to windsurf a few other places.
Any ideas?  Thanks Ian

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