And speaking of the 501, there isn't much difference
cc-wise between a 501 and 490, right? But the 501 is
revered, held in awe, while the 490 is taken in
stride as simply the best MX machine ever built.
Why is that?

-rcf

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "vmx70m" <ahrma70m@y...>
wrote:
> You know, it not really a quantum leap bike. But the 73-74 Husky
> CR250. It didnt really do any one thing perfect, but it did
> everything really well. who here didnt have or want to have one of
> those back in the day ?? They handled pretty well, ran pretty well,
> were pretty durable, were as at home on a Cross Country race as on
an
> MX track.
>
> and, damn they looked good.
>
> but my real choice would be the Square barrel Maico 250 and 360
that
> debut'ed here around 1968??  It will, today, still run
competitively
> with anything 1974 can bring to the party, they handle better than
> any of them, and they look better than a Husky.
> In a world that obsoletes everything in a year, 30 years of
> dominating a 6 year wide span is pretty darn impressive.
> dont you think ??
>
> now, what about the 501? even the Big Man upstairs is  trying to
> figure out how he let that one slip out. WOW!
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
> <maicorick3@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Certainly you have to include the Yamaha monoshock
> > in the quantum leap category. As far as I know it
> > was the first MX bike to have a single rear
> > shock, and continued to be the only single
> > rear shock bike for some 5 years or so. And
> > look now, I don't think you can find a new
> > MX bike that isn't single rear shock.
> >
> > -rcf
> >
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> <jrmsharp@m...>
> > wrote:
> > > --
> > > That's good AW Maico(whicH I own) on innovation, and 81 490
Mega
> 2
> > on
> > > refinement.
> > >
> > >  I have still some more.
> > > 1. 74-1/2 GP for forward mounted shocks
> > > 2. 74 Penton 250/400 for multi position shocks some of the
first
> > > cantilever .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
> > wrote:
> > > > James:
> > > >
> > > > I would include two other maico's in that list!
> > > >
> > > > 1. The AW Maico's becase of the long travel suspensssion,
Maico
> > > > started the trend.
> > > >
> > > > 2. The 1981 490 Maico, becase it was such an improvement over
> > every
> > > > thing esle in power & handeling.
> > > >
> > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > <jrmsharp@m...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I
> think
> > > > they
> > > > > clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance
and
> > > > > handling.  How about some others?
> > > > >   Thanks, James

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
<travisagle@y...> wrote:
> I was just about to post that there is an '86 GM 500 on eBay that's
> closing soon but I see it's already closed and it appears you won
it. Never mind.
> Travis

Thanks just the same Travis... I did win it. I love Maicos...all of
them.
Dave G.

I was just about to post that there is an '86 GM 500 on eBay that's
closing soon but I see it's already closed and it appears you won it.

Never mind.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Gagnon"
<dynodaves@y...> wrote:
> Anyone? I'm in need of a good set of plastic and a decent tank.
> Any help out there?
> Dave G.

Exactly!!
That is who I am talking about. Thank you very much.


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "ss440gp"
<steveseelbinder@a...> wrote:
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "keithmenne" <kmenne@s...>
> wrote:
> > Back in the early and mid eighties, there was a guy in the metro
> > Detroit area (Wixom) who had a small MX shop. He was a great
Maico
> > guy, raced his old maicos in D-14 "old bike class". He sold
MStars
> as
> > well. He had a van and sold MX stuff at various races around our
> > area.  His first name was Jeff, I was wondering if anybody knew
of
> > him or what he might be doing now.
> >
> > Keith
> > Grand Ledge, MI
>
>
>
> I think you are talking about Jeff Keel. Call Magic motor sports
> 248 332-2440 and ask for the owner, he knows Jeff.

Anyone? I'm in need of a good set of plastic and a decent tank.
Any help out there?
Dave G.

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
wrote:
> Hey Gang:
>
> I just got a bunch of Maico parts from a friend that quit riding, I
> have a brand new Maico only 81' 440 pipe & a used 83' 490
cyclinder.
> I also have what looks to be a Std bore wiseco single ring piston
> with no ring. it dosen't even look like it's been in a motor!
>
> I also have a 85' or 86' singarm & linkage, I don't know if it will
> fit anything other than an 85' or 86'& I have a set of 400 cases &
> crank & 78 clutch cover.
>
> If you want any of these let me know! I willing to deal!
>
> Howard

Hey Howard,
I'm interested in the `86 parts. Email me at dynodaves @ yahoo.com
Thanks,
Dave

You know, it not really a quantum leap bike. But the 73-74 Husky
CR250. It didnt really do any one thing perfect, but it did
everything really well. who here didnt have or want to have one of
those back in the day ?? They handled pretty well, ran pretty well,
were pretty durable, were as at home on a Cross Country race as on an
MX track.

and, damn they looked good.

but my real choice would be the Square barrel Maico 250 and 360 that
debut'ed here around 1968??  It will, today, still run competitively
with anything 1974 can bring to the party, they handle better than
any of them, and they look better than a Husky.
In a world that obsoletes everything in a year, 30 years of
dominating a 6 year wide span is pretty darn impressive.
dont you think ??

now, what about the 501? even the Big Man upstairs is  trying to
figure out how he let that one slip out. WOW!


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
<maicorick3@y...> wrote:
>
> Certainly you have to include the Yamaha monoshock
> in the quantum leap category. As far as I know it
> was the first MX bike to have a single rear
> shock, and continued to be the only single
> rear shock bike for some 5 years or so. And
> look now, I don't think you can find a new
> MX bike that isn't single rear shock.
>
> -rcf
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
<jrmsharp@m...>
> wrote:
> > --
> > That's good AW Maico(whicH I own) on innovation, and 81 490 Mega
2
> on
> > refinement.
> >
> >  I have still some more.
> > 1. 74-1/2 GP for forward mounted shocks
> > 2. 74 Penton 250/400 for multi position shocks some of the first
> > cantilever .
> >
> >
> >
> > - In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
> wrote:
> > > James:
> > >
> > > I would include two other maico's in that list!
> > >
> > > 1. The AW Maico's becase of the long travel suspensssion, Maico
> > > started the trend.
> > >
> > > 2. The 1981 490 Maico, becase it was such an improvement over
> every
> > > thing esle in power & handeling.
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > <jrmsharp@m...> wrote:
> > > > Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.
> > > >
> > > > I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I
think
> > > they
> > > > clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance and
> > > > handling.  How about some others?
> > > >   Thanks, James

If the dude iis THAT big a bad ass he prolly doesn't need a
compression release...


wow


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "c_sunkin" <csunkin@g...>
wrote:
> I'd like to get ahold of the guy who built this- I've always
wanted a
> recoil starter for my 490!!
>
> I bet the guy who starts this thing is one badass.  Wonder if it
has
> a compression release?
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
> <maicorick3@y...> wrote:
> > I just posted a pic you might enjoy. A
> > Maico powered chain saw. I'm told it is
> > a 440. Picture courtesy of Shawn O'Neil.
> >
> > -rcf

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "keithmenne" <kmenne@s...>
wrote:
> Back in the early and mid eighties, there was a guy in the metro
> Detroit area (Wixom) who had a small MX shop. He was a great Maico
> guy, raced his old maicos in D-14 "old bike class". He sold MStars
as
> well. He had a van and sold MX stuff at various races around our
> area.  His first name was Jeff, I was wondering if anybody knew of
> him or what he might be doing now.
>
> Keith
> Grand Ledge, MI



I think you are talking about Jeff Keel. Call Magic motor sports
248 332-2440 and ask for the owner, he knows Jeff.

Is this thing set up backwards??  Looks like the carb is where the
exhaust port should be.  I guess that would give it the rotational
direction it needs.

Terry

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "c_sunkin" <csunkin@g...>
wrote:
> I'd like to get ahold of the guy who built this- I've always wanted
a
> recoil starter for my 490!!
>
> I bet the guy who starts this thing is one badass.  Wonder if it
has
> a compression release?
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
> <maicorick3@y...> wrote:
> > I just posted a pic you might enjoy. A
> > Maico powered chain saw. I'm told it is
> > a 440. Picture courtesy of Shawn O'Neil.
> >
> > -rcf

I'd like to get ahold of the guy who built this- I've always wanted a
recoil starter for my 490!!

I bet the guy who starts this thing is one badass.  Wonder if it has
a compression release?

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
<maicorick3@y...> wrote:
> I just posted a pic you might enjoy. A
> Maico powered chain saw. I'm told it is
> a 440. Picture courtesy of Shawn O'Neil.
>
> -rcf

I just posted a pic you might enjoy. A
Maico powered chain saw. I'm told it is
a 440. Picture courtesy of Shawn O'Neil.

-rcf

Certainly you have to include the Yamaha monoshock
in the quantum leap category. As far as I know it
was the first MX bike to have a single rear
shock, and continued to be the only single
rear shock bike for some 5 years or so. And
look now, I don't think you can find a new
MX bike that isn't single rear shock.

-rcf


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames" <jrmsharp@m...>
wrote:
> --
> That's good AW Maico(whicH I own) on innovation, and 81 490 Mega 2
on
> refinement.
>
>  I have still some more.
> 1. 74-1/2 GP for forward mounted shocks
> 2. 74 Penton 250/400 for multi position shocks some of the first
> cantilever .
>
>
>
> - In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
wrote:
> > James:
> >
> > I would include two other maico's in that list!
> >
> > 1. The AW Maico's becase of the long travel suspensssion, Maico
> > started the trend.
> >
> > 2. The 1981 490 Maico, becase it was such an improvement over
every
> > thing esle in power & handeling.
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > <jrmsharp@m...> wrote:
> > > Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.
> > >
> > > I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I think
> > they
> > > clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance and
> > > handling.  How about some others?
> > >   Thanks, James

Can't give you an exact quantity for the fork oil but it's hard to
go wrong if you start at 5.5 inches below the top with the forks
fully compressed and the spring out.  If they bottom, add oil in .5
inch increments.  If they never bottom take it out in .5 inch
increments.  Usually somewhere between 6 inches and 4.75 inches
works.  I would start with 10 weight and go thicker if you need more
rebound.

As far as the "Leakproof" seals, they were hardly that.  They are
easy to install because they float in the fork slider, but they
don't seal as well as a modern seal.  Match up what you have to a
good Japanese seal and you will be in business.  Give Maico Only or
Rage a call and they can set you up.

In the combined wisdom of the group can anyone tell me the correct
quantity and oil weight for my '79 Magnum?
Also has anyone had any experiences with "Leakproof fork seals"
either good or bad?
Tony

--
That's good AW Maico(whicH I own) on innovation, and 81 490 Mega 2 on
refinement.

  I have still some more.
1. 74-1/2 GP for forward mounted shocks
2. 74 Penton 250/400 for multi position shocks some of the first
cantilever .



- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...> wrote:
> James:
>
> I would include two other maico's in that list!
>
> 1. The AW Maico's becase of the long travel suspensssion, Maico
> started the trend.
>
> 2. The 1981 490 Maico, becase it was such an improvement over every
> thing esle in power & handeling.
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> <jrmsharp@m...> wrote:
> > Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.
> >
> > I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I think
> they
> > clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance and
> > handling.  How about some others?
> >   Thanks, James

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
wrote:
> Hey Gang:
>
> I just got a bunch of Maico parts from a friend that quit riding,
I
> have a brand new Maico only 81' 440 pipe & a used 83' 490
cyclinder.
> I also have what looks to be a Std bore wiseco single ring piston
> with no ring. it dosen't even look like it's been in a motor!
>
> I also have a 85' or 86' singarm & linkage, I don't know if it
will
> fit anything other than an 85' or 86'& I have a set of 400 cases &
> crank & 78 clutch cover.
>
> If you want any of these let me know! I willing to deal!
>
> Howard

Hey Howard,

   Is that pipe for an 80 or a 81?

How much are you asking for it?  I'd be interested in it.

Bob

James:

I would include two other maico's in that list!

1. The AW Maico's becase of the long travel suspensssion, Maico
started the trend.

2. The 1981 490 Maico, becase it was such an improvement over every
thing esle in power & handeling.

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
<jrmsharp@m...> wrote:
> Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.
>
> I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I think
they
> clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance and
> handling.  How about some others?
>   Thanks, James

Todd:

I'm not sure what bore the cylinder is on, I'll have to check, but I
think it's the 3rd or 4th. I'll sell it cheep make me an offer!


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "sc550m" <sc550m@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Howard
> Do you know what bore is the cylinder on? how much do you want for
> it.
> Todd
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
> wrote:
> > Hey Gang:
> >
> > I just got a bunch of Maico parts from a friend that quit
riding,
> I
> > have a brand new Maico only 81' 440 pipe & a used 83' 490
> cyclinder.
> > I also have what looks to be a Std bore wiseco single ring
piston
> > with no ring. it dosen't even look like it's been in a motor!
> >
> > I also have a 85' or 86' singarm & linkage, I don't know if it
> will
> > fit anything other than an 85' or 86'& I have a set of 400 cases
&
> > crank & 78 clutch cover.
> >
> > If you want any of these let me know! I willing to deal!
> >
> > Howard

Hi is anyone here going to the May1, and 2 Alb, N.M. race?
I have a chance to borrow of all things a clean original 81 490.
I am very tempted.
  Thank you, James

Hi just wanted to get some feedback here about this.

I will start with two- Radial Maico, and 125 elsinore. I think they
clearly outclass bikes of the same vintage-in perfromance and
handling.  How about some others?
   Thanks, James

Thank you for the replies. I did not mean to get a po;itical
discussion going as much as some feedback on the performance indexing
of certain models. I think Travis answered that though. I am going to
start a new topic with this question: What mxers were the most
quantam leap for their time?
  Thank you, James




-- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
<travisagle@y...> wrote:
> In response to your first question: AHRMA politics, plain and
> simple.  From what I've heard (from one of the AHRMA trustees, no
> less) when they first started writing the vintage MX regulations
the
> rules comittee was jockeying for rules that would make the bikes
they
> (the rules committe/AHRMA founders) raced more competetive in their
> classes and the competition's less competetive.  I agree that it
> makes no sense that certain '68 bikes got the shaft and compete
> with ,74.5, '75, even '76 bikes,  while other 1974 bikes can
compete
> in classic classes.  If it makes you feel any better, the CZ
> sidepipers feel the same way square barrel owner feel.
>
> Of course, even in vintage MX it's 90% rider, 10% bike.
>
> Travis
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
<jrmsharp@m...>
> wrote:
> > -
> > Is there any reason behind the square barrels being bumped to
> sports
> > man? As Jim McCabe says(and this is consistent with everything I
> have
> > heard) they will not run with the radials. It just seems strange
> that
> > a 68 model bike would have to run against 74 (and some 76) models.
> >
> > Jim, this would be a question for you-if you could reply..Was the
> X4a
> > square barrel in 68 a quantam leap in engine performance( and
> > handling)? If so, how did anyone win a race between 68 and 73 or
so
> > on anything but a Maico? Am I committing political suicide by
> asking
> > this question at all?
> >
> >  I agree with Roger on the left side shifting but also Maicos and
> > Pentons are my favorite bikes. I was born in 68 and I would love
to
> > own a Maico of this year. I guess I would like to know more about
> > them.
> >
> >   Thank you for any replies. James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > I actually would like my next project to be one of the '65-67
> oval
> > > barrel bikes (as opposed to the iron barrel era) but I realize
> they
> > > are few and far between.  I'm probably not ready yet either as
I
> > just
> > > bought a '68 360 square barrel.
> > >
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > Good points Travis.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have an oval barrel 360. It is not an "iron barrel".
It
> is
> > a
> > > 68
> > > > year model. The 360 I have (going to build) is a "Classic
500"
> > class
> > > > bike. The "iron barrel" 250 qualifies for the "Premier
> > Lightweigth"
> > > > class. I believe the difference in the the "Oval Barrel" has
> > > aluminum
> > > > fins, whereas the "Iron barrel" is all iron. The Maicos are
one
> > of
> > > the
> > > > few Classic and Premier bikes that shift on the left side.
> > Therefore
> > > > for me, they are of definite interest.
> > > >
> > > > As for my back, I have been working on this issue from all
> sides
> > and
> > > > have several possible solutions to get me back into vintage
> > racing,
> > > > not just post-vintage. Hopefully, I will be racing vintage
> again
> > > next
> > > > season.
> > > >
> > > > You will be one of the first to know if I plan on selling my
> oval
> > > barrel.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Roger
> > > >
> > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Roger:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Don't you already have an oval barrel?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Don't the short travel bikes hurt your back, thereby
> > > necessitating
> > > > > that you sell your oval barrel to me?
> > > > >
> > > > > (Just kidding, although, if you do ever decide to sell,
call
> me
> > > > > first -Travis)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > > > So Jim,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you selling this bike?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Jim McCabe"
> > > > > > <jim.mccabe@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > > The cast iron 250 on Ebay has the latest CI porting and
> > > properly
> > > > > > > modified for AHRMA is dead reliable, handles identical
to
> a
> > > 250
> > > > > > > square barrel and is only down about 6.5 to 7 hp. from
a
> > well
> > > > > tuned
> > > > > > > 250 square barrel. It is very, very competive in the
> AHRMA
> > > > > classic
> > > > > > > 250 class when "optimized" and competitive with nothing
> > more
> > > than
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > 32 mm Bing, matched ports and 7" travel Maico forks.
For
> > more
> > > > > details
> > > > > > > contact me at 260-758-2242 evenings. The cast iron
250's,
> > > oval
> > > > > barrel
> > > > > > > 250's and 360's are all competitive in their classes,
> with
> > a
> > > bit
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > tuning but I have not been able to make a square barrel
> of
> > > any
> > > > > > > displacement competitive with the radials in the
> sportsman
> > > > > classes,
> > > > > > > due to the port restrictions of the cylinder castings.
I
> > also
> > > > > have a
> > > > > > > 360 oval barrel engine I built running out of Alabama,
> that
> > > has
> > > > > > > proven to be very competive and very reliable but that
> may
> > > well
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > largely due to the talented rider. Incidently, pistons
> and
> > > spares
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > available for the 250 cast iron Maico's, which makes
> > > continued
> > > > > AHRMA
> > > > > > > competition riding on one fesible.
> > > > > > >   --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis
Agle"
> > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > From what I read in the AHRMA regulations, the iron
> > barrel,
> > > > > single
> > > > > > > > down tube Maicos (of which this '60 bike is) race in
> the
> > > > > premier
> > > > > > > > lightweight class.  The X4 bikes with aluminum oval
> > barrels
> > > > > race in
> > > > > > > > the classic 250 or 500 classes.  I believe that X-4
on
> > eBay
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > sportsman, due to the square barrel motor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > > > > <jrmsharp@m...>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis
> Agle"
> > > > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Check out eBay item 2469649680.  Probably the
> oldest
> > > Maico
> > > > > > > > > scrambler
> > > > > > > > > > I've seen available.
> > > > > > > > > Travis, that it too cool. I have read about Maico
> mxers
> > > as
> > > > > old as
> > > > > > > > 55-
> > > > > > > > > 56 models (read Jim Mccabe's articles) but yes this
> is
> > > the
> > > > > oldest
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have seen for sale. How would it be in a Rickman
> > chassis-
> > > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > you pictured afew months back? Which AHRMA class
> would
> > it
> > > > > qualify
> > > > > > > > for?
> > > > > > > > > I see a 68 X4A for sale on e-bay as well. I think
the
> > 68
> > > has
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > with the later(sportsman) class bikes... James

Hey Howard
Do you know what bore is the cylinder on? how much do you want for
it.
Todd
--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "bigmaico" <hlobel@k...>
wrote:
> Hey Gang:
>
> I just got a bunch of Maico parts from a friend that quit riding,
I
> have a brand new Maico only 81' 440 pipe & a used 83' 490
cyclinder.
> I also have what looks to be a Std bore wiseco single ring piston
> with no ring. it dosen't even look like it's been in a motor!
>
> I also have a 85' or 86' singarm & linkage, I don't know if it
will
> fit anything other than an 85' or 86'& I have a set of 400 cases &
> crank & 78 clutch cover.
>
> If you want any of these let me know! I willing to deal!
>
> Howard

Oh Man....

Don't get me started about AHRMA Politics!!!

"Trying to keep my mouth shut", Roger

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
<travisagle@y...> wrote:
> In response to your first question: AHRMA politics, plain and
> simple.  From what I've heard (from one of the AHRMA trustees, no
> less) when they first started writing the vintage MX regulations the
> rules comittee was jockeying for rules that would make the bikes they
> (the rules committe/AHRMA founders) raced more competetive in their
> classes and the competition's less competetive.  I agree that it
> makes no sense that certain '68 bikes got the shaft and compete
> with ,74.5, '75, even '76 bikes,  while other 1974 bikes can compete
> in classic classes.  If it makes you feel any better, the CZ
> sidepipers feel the same way square barrel owner feel.
>
> Of course, even in vintage MX it's 90% rider, 10% bike.
>
> Travis
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames" <jrmsharp@m...>
> wrote:
> > -
> > Is there any reason behind the square barrels being bumped to
> sports
> > man? As Jim McCabe says(and this is consistent with everything I
> have
> heard) they will not run with the radials. It just seems strange
> that
> > a 68 model bike would have to run against 74 (and some 76) models.
> >
> > Jim, this would be a question for you-if you could reply..Was the
> X4a
> > square barrel in 68 a quantam leap in engine performance( and
> > handling)? If so, how did anyone win a race between 68 and 73 or so
> > on anything but a Maico? Am I committing political suicide by
> asking
> > this question at all?
> >
> >  I agree with Roger on the left side shifting but also Maicos and
> > Pentons are my favorite bikes. I was born in 68 and I would love to
> > own a Maico of this year. I guess I would like to know more about
> > them.
> >
> >   Thank you for any replies. James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > I actually would like my next project to be one of the '65-67
> oval
> > > barrel bikes (as opposed to the iron barrel era) but I realize
> they
> > > are few and far between.  I'm probably not ready yet either as I
> > just
> > > bought a '68 360 square barrel.
> > >
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > Good points Travis.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have an oval barrel 360. It is not an "iron barrel". It
> is
> > a
> > > 68
> > > > year model. The 360 I have (going to build) is a "Classic 500"
> > class
> > > > bike. The "iron barrel" 250 qualifies for the "Premier
> > Lightweigth"
> > > > class. I believe the difference in the the "Oval Barrel" has
> > > aluminum
> > > > fins, whereas the "Iron barrel" is all iron. The Maicos are one
> > of
> > > the
> > > > few Classic and Premier bikes that shift on the left side.
> > Therefore
> > > > for me, they are of definite interest.
> > > >
> > > > As for my back, I have been working on this issue from all
> sides
> > and
> > > > have several possible solutions to get me back into vintage
> > racing,
> > > > not just post-vintage. Hopefully, I will be racing vintage
> again
> > > next
> > > > season.
> > > >
> > > > You will be one of the first to know if I plan on selling my
> oval
> > > barrel.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Roger
> > > >
> > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Roger:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Don't you already have an oval barrel?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Don't the short travel bikes hurt your back, thereby
> > > necessitating
> > > > > that you sell your oval barrel to me?
> > > > >
> > > > > (Just kidding, although, if you do ever decide to sell, call
> me
> > > > > first -Travis)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > > > So Jim,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you selling this bike?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Jim McCabe"
> > > > > > <jim.mccabe@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > > The cast iron 250 on Ebay has the latest CI porting and
> > > properly
> > > > > > > modified for AHRMA is dead reliable, handles identical to
> a
> > > 250
> > > > > > > square barrel and is only down about 6.5 to 7 hp. from a
> > well
> > > > > tuned
> > > > > > > 250 square barrel. It is very, very competive in the
> AHRMA
> > > > > classic
> > > > > > > 250 class when "optimized" and competitive with nothing
> > more
> > > than
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > 32 mm Bing, matched ports and 7" travel Maico forks. For
> > more
> > > > > details
> > > > > > > contact me at 260-758-2242 evenings. The cast iron 250's,
> > > oval
> > > > > barrel
> > > > > > > 250's and 360's are all competitive in their classes,
> with
> > a
> > > bit
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > tuning but I have not been able to make a square barrel
> of
> > > any
> > > > > > > displacement competitive with the radials in the
> sportsman
> > > > > classes,
> > > > > > > due to the port restrictions of the cylinder castings. I
> > also
> > > > > have a
> > > > > > > 360 oval barrel engine I built running out of Alabama,
> that
> > > has
> > > > > > > proven to be very competive and very reliable but that
> may
> > > well
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > largely due to the talented rider. Incidently, pistons
> and
> > > spares
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > available for the 250 cast iron Maico's, which makes
> > > continued
> > > > > AHRMA
> > > > > > > competition riding on one fesible.
> > > > > > >   --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > From what I read in the AHRMA regulations, the iron
> > barrel,
> > > > > single
> > > > > > > > down tube Maicos (of which this '60 bike is) race in
> the
> > > > > premier
> > > > > > > > lightweight class.  The X4 bikes with aluminum oval
> > barrels
> > > > > race in
> > > > > > > > the classic 250 or 500 classes.  I believe that X-4 on
> > eBay
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > sportsman, due to the square barrel motor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > > > > <jrmsharp@m...>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis
> Agle"
> > > > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Check out eBay item 2469649680.  Probably the
> oldest
> > > Maico
> > > > > > > > > scrambler
> > > > > > > > > > I've seen available.
> > > > > > > > > Travis, that it too cool. I have read about Maico
> mxers
> > > as
> > > > > old as
> > > > > > > > 55-
> > > > > > > > > 56 models (read Jim Mccabe's articles) but yes this
> is
> > > the
> > > > > oldest
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have seen for sale. How would it be in a Rickman
> > chassis-
> > > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > you pictured afew months back? Which AHRMA class
> would
> > it
> > > > > qualify
> > > > > > > > for?
> > > > > > > > > I see a 68 X4A for sale on e-bay as well. I think the
> > 68
> > > has
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > with the later(sportsman) class bikes... James

In response to your first question: AHRMA politics, plain and
simple.  From what I've heard (from one of the AHRMA trustees, no
less) when they first started writing the vintage MX regulations the
rules comittee was jockeying for rules that would make the bikes they
(the rules committe/AHRMA founders) raced more competetive in their
classes and the competition's less competetive.  I agree that it
makes no sense that certain '68 bikes got the shaft and compete
with ,74.5, '75, even '76 bikes,  while other 1974 bikes can compete
in classic classes.  If it makes you feel any better, the CZ
sidepipers feel the same way square barrel owner feel.

Of course, even in vintage MX it's 90% rider, 10% bike.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames" <jrmsharp@m...>
wrote:
> -
> Is there any reason behind the square barrels being bumped to
sports
> man? As Jim McCabe says(and this is consistent with everything I
have
> heard) they will not run with the radials. It just seems strange
that
> a 68 model bike would have to run against 74 (and some 76) models.
>
> Jim, this would be a question for you-if you could reply..Was the
X4a
> square barrel in 68 a quantam leap in engine performance( and
> handling)? If so, how did anyone win a race between 68 and 73 or so
> on anything but a Maico? Am I committing political suicide by
asking
> this question at all?
>
>  I agree with Roger on the left side shifting but also Maicos and
> Pentons are my favorite bikes. I was born in 68 and I would love to
> own a Maico of this year. I guess I would like to know more about
> them.
>
>   Thank you for any replies. James
>
>
>
>
> -- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > I actually would like my next project to be one of the '65-67
oval
> > barrel bikes (as opposed to the iron barrel era) but I realize
they
> > are few and far between.  I'm probably not ready yet either as I
> just
> > bought a '68 360 square barrel.
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > Good points Travis.
> > >
> > > Yes, I have an oval barrel 360. It is not an "iron barrel". It
is
> a
> > 68
> > > year model. The 360 I have (going to build) is a "Classic 500"
> class
> > > bike. The "iron barrel" 250 qualifies for the "Premier
> Lightweigth"
> > > class. I believe the difference in the the "Oval Barrel" has
> > aluminum
> > > fins, whereas the "Iron barrel" is all iron. The Maicos are one
> of
> > the
> > > few Classic and Premier bikes that shift on the left side.
> Therefore
> > > for me, they are of definite interest.
> > >
> > > As for my back, I have been working on this issue from all
sides
> and
> > > have several possible solutions to get me back into vintage
> racing,
> > > not just post-vintage. Hopefully, I will be racing vintage
again
> > next
> > > season.
> > >
> > > You will be one of the first to know if I plan on selling my
oval
> > barrel.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Roger
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > Roger:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Don't you already have an oval barrel?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Don't the short travel bikes hurt your back, thereby
> > necessitating
> > > > that you sell your oval barrel to me?
> > > >
> > > > (Just kidding, although, if you do ever decide to sell, call
me
> > > > first -Travis)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > > So Jim,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you selling this bike?
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Jim McCabe"
> > > > > <jim.mccabe@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > The cast iron 250 on Ebay has the latest CI porting and
> > properly
> > > > > > modified for AHRMA is dead reliable, handles identical to
a
> > 250
> > > > > > square barrel and is only down about 6.5 to 7 hp. from a
> well
> > > > tuned
> > > > > > 250 square barrel. It is very, very competive in the
AHRMA
> > > > classic
> > > > > > 250 class when "optimized" and competitive with nothing
> more
> > than
> > > > a
> > > > > > 32 mm Bing, matched ports and 7" travel Maico forks. For
> more
> > > > details
> > > > > > contact me at 260-758-2242 evenings. The cast iron 250's,
> > oval
> > > > barrel
> > > > > > 250's and 360's are all competitive in their classes,
with
> a
> > bit
> > > > of
> > > > > > tuning but I have not been able to make a square barrel
of
> > any
> > > > > > displacement competitive with the radials in the
sportsman
> > > > classes,
> > > > > > due to the port restrictions of the cylinder castings. I
> also
> > > > have a
> > > > > > 360 oval barrel engine I built running out of Alabama,
that
> > has
> > > > > > proven to be very competive and very reliable but that
may
> > well
> > > > be
> > > > > > largely due to the talented rider. Incidently, pistons
and
> > spares
> > > > are
> > > > > > available for the 250 cast iron Maico's, which makes
> > continued
> > > > AHRMA
> > > > > > competition riding on one fesible.
> > > > > >   --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > From what I read in the AHRMA regulations, the iron
> barrel,
> > > > single
> > > > > > > down tube Maicos (of which this '60 bike is) race in
the
> > > > premier
> > > > > > > lightweight class.  The X4 bikes with aluminum oval
> barrels
> > > > race in
> > > > > > > the classic 250 or 500 classes.  I believe that X-4 on
> eBay
> > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > sportsman, due to the square barrel motor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > > > <jrmsharp@m...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis
Agle"
> > > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Check out eBay item 2469649680.  Probably the
oldest
> > Maico
> > > > > > > > scrambler
> > > > > > > > > I've seen available.
> > > > > > > > Travis, that it too cool. I have read about Maico
mxers
> > as
> > > > old as
> > > > > > > 55-
> > > > > > > > 56 models (read Jim Mccabe's articles) but yes this
is
> > the
> > > > oldest
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > have seen for sale. How would it be in a Rickman
> chassis-
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > you pictured afew months back? Which AHRMA class
would
> it
> > > > qualify
> > > > > > > for?
> > > > > > > > I see a 68 X4A for sale on e-bay as well. I think the
> 68
> > has
> > > > to
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > with the later(sportsman) class bikes... James

-
Is there any reason behind the square barrels being bumped to sports
man? As Jim McCabe says(and this is consistent with everything I have
heard) they will not run with the radials. It just seems strange that
a 68 model bike would have to run against 74 (and some 76) models.

Jim, this would be a question for you-if you could reply..Was the X4a
square barrel in 68 a quantam leap in engine performance( and
handling)? If so, how did anyone win a race between 68 and 73 or so
on anything but a Maico? Am I committing political suicide by asking
this question at all?

  I agree with Roger on the left side shifting but also Maicos and
Pentons are my favorite bikes. I was born in 68 and I would love to
own a Maico of this year. I guess I would like to know more about
them.

   Thank you for any replies. James




-- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
<travisagle@y...> wrote:
> I actually would like my next project to be one of the '65-67 oval
> barrel bikes (as opposed to the iron barrel era) but I realize they
> are few and far between.  I'm probably not ready yet either as I
just
> bought a '68 360 square barrel.
>
> Travis
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > Good points Travis.
> >
> > Yes, I have an oval barrel 360. It is not an "iron barrel". It is
a
> 68
> > year model. The 360 I have (going to build) is a "Classic 500"
class
> > bike. The "iron barrel" 250 qualifies for the "Premier
Lightweigth"
> > class. I believe the difference in the the "Oval Barrel" has
> aluminum
> > fins, whereas the "Iron barrel" is all iron. The Maicos are one
of
> the
> > few Classic and Premier bikes that shift on the left side.
Therefore
> > for me, they are of definite interest.
> >
> > As for my back, I have been working on this issue from all sides
and
> > have several possible solutions to get me back into vintage
racing,
> > not just post-vintage. Hopefully, I will be racing vintage again
> next
> > season.
> >
> > You will be one of the first to know if I plan on selling my oval
> barrel.
> >
> > Thanks, Roger
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > Roger:
> > >
> > > 1. Don't you already have an oval barrel?
> > >
> > > 2. Don't the short travel bikes hurt your back, thereby
> necessitating
> > > that you sell your oval barrel to me?
> > >
> > > (Just kidding, although, if you do ever decide to sell, call me
> > > first -Travis)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > > So Jim,
> > > >
> > > > Are you selling this bike?
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Jim McCabe"
> > > > <jim.mccabe@m...> wrote:
> > > > > The cast iron 250 on Ebay has the latest CI porting and
> properly
> > > > > modified for AHRMA is dead reliable, handles identical to a
> 250
> > > > > square barrel and is only down about 6.5 to 7 hp. from a
well
> > > tuned
> > > > > 250 square barrel. It is very, very competive in the AHRMA
> > > classic
> > > > > 250 class when "optimized" and competitive with nothing
more
> than
> > > a
> > > > > 32 mm Bing, matched ports and 7" travel Maico forks. For
more
> > > details
> > > > > contact me at 260-758-2242 evenings. The cast iron 250's,
> oval
> > > barrel
> > > > > 250's and 360's are all competitive in their classes, with
a
> bit
> > > of
> > > > > tuning but I have not been able to make a square barrel of
> any
> > > > > displacement competitive with the radials in the sportsman
> > > classes,
> > > > > due to the port restrictions of the cylinder castings. I
also
> > > have a
> > > > > 360 oval barrel engine I built running out of Alabama, that
> has
> > > > > proven to be very competive and very reliable but that may
> well
> > > be
> > > > > largely due to the talented rider. Incidently, pistons and
> spares
> > > are
> > > > > available for the 250 cast iron Maico's, which makes
> continued
> > > AHRMA
> > > > > competition riding on one fesible.
> > > > >   --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > From what I read in the AHRMA regulations, the iron
barrel,
> > > single
> > > > > > down tube Maicos (of which this '60 bike is) race in the
> > > premier
> > > > > > lightweight class.  The X4 bikes with aluminum oval
barrels
> > > race in
> > > > > > the classic 250 or 500 classes.  I believe that X-4 on
eBay
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > > sportsman, due to the square barrel motor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Travis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > > <jrmsharp@m...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Check out eBay item 2469649680.  Probably the oldest
> Maico
> > > > > > > scrambler
> > > > > > > > I've seen available.
> > > > > > > Travis, that it too cool. I have read about Maico mxers
> as
> > > old as
> > > > > > 55-
> > > > > > > 56 models (read Jim Mccabe's articles) but yes this is
> the
> > > oldest
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > have seen for sale. How would it be in a Rickman
chassis-
> like
> > > the
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > you pictured afew months back? Which AHRMA class would
it
> > > qualify
> > > > > > for?
> > > > > > > I see a 68 X4A for sale on e-bay as well. I think the
68
> has
> > > to
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > with the later(sportsman) class bikes... James

My bike does not have the original shocks. What is on it now are
15.75 somethings. I need the length that it was supposed to have, or
were these replacements the correct length?

Hey Gang:

I just got a bunch of Maico parts from a friend that quit riding, I
have a brand new Maico only 81' 440 pipe & a used 83' 490 cyclinder.
I also have what looks to be a Std bore wiseco single ring piston
with no ring. it dosen't even look like it's been in a motor!

I also have a 85' or 86' singarm & linkage, I don't know if it will
fit anything other than an 85' or 86'& I have a set of 400 cases &
crank & 78 clutch cover.

If you want any of these let me know! I willing to deal!

Howard

As A Maico & KTM freek I can point you in the right direction. log
on to www.KTMTalk.com join up it's free! look for the 2 stroke fourm
& post your question there. with over 10,000 members you will get
your answer in  a few hours.

Howard

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, Randy Tans
<songanddanceman53406@y...> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> This is an unrelated topic but you guys are my best
> hope. I've been working on bike's for about 3 years
> now. I'm an  engineer and work with electric motors so
> I'm not completely without skills. My son and I
> started tearing down his KTM 125 1997. Replace the
> clutch cover gasket that was leaking, fixed a couple
> of bad threads. redid top end and replaced the
> radiator because of a hole. Now for my question. My
> son removed the hoses but doesn't remember where they
> go. I wasn't in attendance. The radiator to engine
> hoses are clear but there are three hoses left. A
> small and a larger one on the ignition side and a
> larger hose on the clutch cover side. Ignition and
> clutch are layed out like the Maico. I don't know if
> the these hoses are vents or water. Where they're
> located water doesn't seem likely but three vent
> Hoses??? That seems like alot. Any ideas?
>
> Randy
>
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I actually would like my next project to be one of the '65-67 oval
barrel bikes (as opposed to the iron barrel era) but I realize they
are few and far between.  I'm probably not ready yet either as I just
bought a '68 360 square barrel.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
<mxer773@k...> wrote:
> Good points Travis.
>
> Yes, I have an oval barrel 360. It is not an "iron barrel". It is a
68
> year model. The 360 I have (going to build) is a "Classic 500" class
> bike. The "iron barrel" 250 qualifies for the "Premier Lightweigth"
> class. I believe the difference in the the "Oval Barrel" has
aluminum
> fins, whereas the "Iron barrel" is all iron. The Maicos are one of
the
> few Classic and Premier bikes that shift on the left side. Therefore
> for me, they are of definite interest.
>
> As for my back, I have been working on this issue from all sides and
> have several possible solutions to get me back into vintage racing,
> not just post-vintage. Hopefully, I will be racing vintage again
next
> season.
>
> You will be one of the first to know if I plan on selling my oval
barrel.
>
> Thanks, Roger
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > Roger:
> >
> > 1. Don't you already have an oval barrel?
> >
> > 2. Don't the short travel bikes hurt your back, thereby
necessitating
> > that you sell your oval barrel to me?
> >
> > (Just kidding, although, if you do ever decide to sell, call me
> > first -Travis)
> >
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Kenyon"
> > <mxer773@k...> wrote:
> > > So Jim,
> > >
> > > Are you selling this bike?
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Jim McCabe"
> > > <jim.mccabe@m...> wrote:
> > > > The cast iron 250 on Ebay has the latest CI porting and
properly
> > > > modified for AHRMA is dead reliable, handles identical to a
250
> > > > square barrel and is only down about 6.5 to 7 hp. from a well
> > tuned
> > > > 250 square barrel. It is very, very competive in the AHRMA
> > classic
> > > > 250 class when "optimized" and competitive with nothing more
than
> > a
> > > > 32 mm Bing, matched ports and 7" travel Maico forks. For more
> > details
> > > > contact me at 260-758-2242 evenings. The cast iron 250's,
oval
> > barrel
> > > > 250's and 360's are all competitive in their classes, with a
bit
> > of
> > > > tuning but I have not been able to make a square barrel of
any
> > > > displacement competitive with the radials in the sportsman
> > classes,
> > > > due to the port restrictions of the cylinder castings. I also
> > have a
> > > > 360 oval barrel engine I built running out of Alabama, that
has
> > > > proven to be very competive and very reliable but that may
well
> > be
> > > > largely due to the talented rider. Incidently, pistons and
spares
> > are
> > > > available for the 250 cast iron Maico's, which makes
continued
> > AHRMA
> > > > competition riding on one fesible.
> > > >   --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > From what I read in the AHRMA regulations, the iron barrel,
> > single
> > > > > down tube Maicos (of which this '60 bike is) race in the
> > premier
> > > > > lightweight class.  The X4 bikes with aluminum oval barrels
> > race in
> > > > > the classic 250 or 500 classes.  I believe that X-4 on eBay
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > sportsman, due to the square barrel motor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Travis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicojames"
> > > > <jrmsharp@m...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
> > > > > > <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Check out eBay item 2469649680.  Probably the oldest
Maico
> > > > > > scrambler
> > > > > > > I've seen available.
> > > > > > Travis, that it too cool. I have read about Maico mxers
as
> > old as
> > > > > 55-
> > > > > > 56 models (read Jim Mccabe's articles) but yes this is
the
> > oldest
> > > > I
> > > > > > have seen for sale. How would it be in a Rickman chassis-
like
> > the
> > > > > one
> > > > > > you pictured afew months back? Which AHRMA class would it
> > qualify
> > > > > for?
> > > > > > I see a 68 X4A for sale on e-bay as well. I think the 68
has
> > to
> > > > run
> > > > > > with the later(sportsman) class bikes... James