Glad to see you came aboard Curtis !

Sad truth is, with a maico action photo, one of two things happens,
you either have a really great camera or its blurry,,

Curtis speaks the truth, the day that pic was taken was INCREDIBLE ..
not just for VINTAGE racing, but maybe one of the greatest racing
days ever of any venue ...

If you are anywhere even close to within range of his series, GET
THERE !  you wont regret it !




--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "movmx1" <movmx1@y...> wrote:
> Hey guys, I like the blurry pic on top of the page. I think it was
> taken during one of the best days ever in Vintage motocross racing.
> (Did anyone tell you guys I might have an ego?) Curtis Harper here.
> If you don't know me, I run MOVMX, the Missouri Vintage Motocross
> series. We will be starting up again on March 17th at Harper's Moto
> Guzzi on the same track we finished on in November. As always, we
> will run all AHRMA classes both vintage and PV. As well there will
be
> a swap meet in the pits. Free primative camping available Saturday
> night. If you wonder if we really have fun, just ask anyone who was
> there. If you have any questions please feel free to ask at
> movmx1@y... Thanks, Curtis Harper

Hey guys, I like the blurry pic on top of the page. I think it was
taken during one of the best days ever in Vintage motocross racing.
(Did anyone tell you guys I might have an ego?) Curtis Harper here.
If you don't know me, I run MOVMX, the Missouri Vintage Motocross
series. We will be starting up again on March 17th at Harper's Moto
Guzzi on the same track we finished on in November. As always, we
will run all AHRMA classes both vintage and PV. As well there will be
a swap meet in the pits. Free primative camping available Saturday
night. If you wonder if we really have fun, just ask anyone who was
there. If you have any questions please feel free to ask at
movmx1@.... Thanks, Curtis Harper

The one i posted of the 360 I did as Medium size when it asked

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> Travis,, click on the photos link on the left side of the page, and
> it should direct you to post phots, if you have trouble, e mail em
to
> me at maicojockey@m... and Ill post em for you !   we are only
> allowed one here onn the front page .. if you want one of yours in
> that spot, tell me, or Ill pick one !   love to have you
share 'em !
>
> thanx !
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "maicophile" <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> > Gooey,
> >
> > How do you post photos here on the message board? I have some I
> would
> > like to share.  Let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Travis

Travis,, click on the photos link on the left side of the page, and
it should direct you to post phots, if you have trouble, e mail em to
me at maicojockey@... and Ill post em for you !   we are only
allowed one here onn the front page .. if you want one of yours in
that spot, tell me, or Ill pick one !   love to have you share 'em !

thanx !


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "maicophile" <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> Gooey,
>
> How do you post photos here on the message board? I have some I
would
> like to share.  Let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Travis

Rick,

You definitly have a '75 frame.  The up tubes wrap around the head
stock a little bit.  There is a true '74.5 frame on eBay right now.
Check out the difference between your frame and it.

RE: Kickstarters.  Unfortunately you most likely will have to shell
out for one.  Maico Only has repro kick starters that are beefier
than the originals(www.maicoonly.com), Eric is a good guy to deal
with.  You could try buying a thrashed motor that has a kicker
attached.

Hope this helps.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> OK. The frame does sort of wrap, but not nearly all the way around
> the head tube.  So maybe it is a 75.
>
> I have lucked out and recieved pegs and a head stay.  Now the
> kickstarter and gears are next.
>
> It's a stupid question, but does anyone have a mangled or molested
> frame I can get a part of?  Apparently, in my intelligent youth, I
> cut the rear frame section off...the part beyond the seat.  While
it
> must have been a good idea then, I'm reconsidering the thought now,
> and would like to return the item to the frame.
>
> Lemme know...you folks have been great so far!!!
>
> What are you all working and playing with?
>
>
> Rich

Gooey,

How do you post photos here on the message board? I have some I would
like to share.  Let me know.

Thanks,

Travis

Sorry aboutthe fuzzy picture,, It is an unknown racer at the MOVMX
season finale' last November ...  Missouri has a really neat
series !   send me some pix so I can replace it sometime,, but maybe
not too soon, fuzzy or not,,this guy us havin a BALL ! And, if its
YOU, let me know so we can tell the world who you are ... that was
(is?) a super neat bike !

It may be a good time to read, or re-read the What Killed Maico
article, follow this link,, lots said about the 490's here !


http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/maicopt1.html


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "georamak" <georama@m...> wrote:
> Thinking about picking up a '83 490,a Wheelsmith bike with Ti bolts
> everywhere.Axles,bolts etc.Anybody have any experience with this
> model? Thanks!

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "georamak" <georama@m...> wrote:
> Thinking about picking up a '83 490,a Wheelsmith bike with Ti bolts
> everywhere.Axles,bolts etc.Anybody have any experience with this
> model? Thanks!

If the price is right go for it.  The '83 is supposed to be much
better than the '82 but not as good as the '81; Also, the '83 is the
last true Maico.

Later,

T

Thinking about picking up a '83 490,a Wheelsmith bike with Ti bolts
everywhere.Axles,bolts etc.Anybody have any experience with this
model? Thanks!

Sounds like it was last modded in 1976, last raced in 1977, regional
#1 bike around St Paul with some national attempts maybe ?? Then
pickled for 20 years til it came to me ... legend has it that it was
a dealer sponsored bike maybe with factory input ??  I am not
positive Ive tracked down the owner, cuz he really doesnt wanna talk
much about his racing days ?? but whoever built this thing or was
involved in it would recognize it faster than they'd recognize their
mother ....  with the cutoff rear loop, the factory connection, and
the era being around 1975,, I thought we may have sister bikes, I
have, like I said, tried to chase the history on this bike, I think
its probably rubbed fenders with some big boys along the way ??
someone serious about racing built the bike ...  oh well,, thanx for
looking !


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> That frame is WAY radical for the day!!  Geez!
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> > I set a pic of my 250 frame mods,, its a radical works-style
> 74.5 ...
> > any similarities ??
> >

That frame is WAY radical for the day!!  Geez!


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> I set a pic of my 250 frame mods,, its a radical works-style
74.5 ...
> any similarities ??
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> > OK. The frame does sort of wrap, but not nearly all the way
around
> > the head tube.  So maybe it is a 75.
> >
> > I have lucked out and recieved pegs and a head stay.  Now the
> > kickstarter and gears are next.
> >
> > It's a stupid question, but does anyone have a mangled or
molested
> > frame I can get a part of?  Apparently, in my intelligent youth,
I
> > cut the rear frame section off...the part beyond the seat.  While
> it
> > must have been a good idea then, I'm reconsidering the thought
now,
> > and would like to return the item to the frame.
> >
> > Lemme know...you folks have been great so far!!!
> >
> > What are you all working and playing with?
> >
> >
> > Rich

I set a pic of my 250 frame mods,, its a radical works-style 74.5 ...
any similarities ??


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> OK. The frame does sort of wrap, but not nearly all the way around
> the head tube.  So maybe it is a 75.
>
> I have lucked out and recieved pegs and a head stay.  Now the
> kickstarter and gears are next.
>
> It's a stupid question, but does anyone have a mangled or molested
> frame I can get a part of?  Apparently, in my intelligent youth, I
> cut the rear frame section off...the part beyond the seat.  While
it
> must have been a good idea then, I'm reconsidering the thought now,
> and would like to return the item to the frame.
>
> Lemme know...you folks have been great so far!!!
>
> What are you all working and playing with?
>
>
> Rich

OK. The frame does sort of wrap, but not nearly all the way around
the head tube.  So maybe it is a 75.

I have lucked out and recieved pegs and a head stay.  Now the
kickstarter and gears are next.

It's a stupid question, but does anyone have a mangled or molested
frame I can get a part of?  Apparently, in my intelligent youth, I
cut the rear frame section off...the part beyond the seat.  While it
must have been a good idea then, I'm reconsidering the thought now,
and would like to return the item to the frame.

Lemme know...you folks have been great so far!!!

What are you all working and playing with?


Rich

http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/nov00rsMaico760.html

Idid.  I was the first or second bidder.  I'm continuing to watch....

Thanks a bunch!!
Rich

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> that link doesnt work ... search E Bay ender wheelsmith pegs

that link doesnt work ... search E Bay ender wheelsmith pegs

Some of thos parts should be relatively easy to come by,, I noticed
some wheelsmith pegs on "the bay" that are at a decent price so
far ... but thats subject to change, I think these pegs may be
accurate for a bike like yours ?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=601430371&r=0&t=0


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> I bought it long ago, in it's day, from Billy Payne, owner of
> California Motor Sports and also a local factory rider. in So. Cal.
> I'm doing pics soon....the "before" restoration.  I do need a few
> parts.  Key ones are kickstarter, pegs and mounts, headstay, fork
> tubes, and some gears.
>
> Rich
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> > Sounds like a WAY cool machine ! I, for one, would LOVE to see
pics
> > of the bike ... got one to post ?? ANy idea on the history of the
> > bike ??  If so, how did you track it ?? I am trying to track
where
> my
> > 250 has been and whats its seen, and hit some good info and some
> > roadblocks ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...>
wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I'm currently bringing back to life my factory bike.  It's a
four
> > > speed 450...looks to have the 74/75 frame with the cosmetic
holes
> > > around the upper shock mounts, and shocks rather far back on
the
> > > swingarm.  The forks are internally sprung.  Wheelsmith work
done
> > to
> > > the barrel, etc.
> > >
> > > It was a bitchen bike.  I hope I can resurrect it.
> > >
> > > Rich

I bought it long ago, in it's day, from Billy Payne, owner of
California Motor Sports and also a local factory rider. in So. Cal.
I'm doing pics soon....the "before" restoration.  I do need a few
parts.  Key ones are kickstarter, pegs and mounts, headstay, fork
tubes, and some gears.

Rich


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> Sounds like a WAY cool machine ! I, for one, would LOVE to see pics
> of the bike ... got one to post ?? ANy idea on the history of the
> bike ??  If so, how did you track it ?? I am trying to track where
my
> 250 has been and whats its seen, and hit some good info and some
> roadblocks ....
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm currently bringing back to life my factory bike.  It's a four
> > speed 450...looks to have the 74/75 frame with the cosmetic holes
> > around the upper shock mounts, and shocks rather far back on the
> > swingarm.  The forks are internally sprung.  Wheelsmith work done
> to
> > the barrel, etc.
> >
> > It was a bitchen bike.  I hope I can resurrect it.
> >
> > Rich

yep, Travis thought of that !   a little on the spendy side to me,
AND i like the serviceability angle you get with a points system ...
they say PVL makes 'em easier to start though, and that could be a
good thing !


>
> Have you thought about a PVL ignition? I know they are pricey buy
> every one I know who has one swears by them.
>
> Later,
>
> Travis

YEAH !   Travis, good to see you aboard,, I have REALLY been missing
the cahtter we had before !   Some good tips and tricks were
exchanged, and everyone got along real well,, I  guess I got tired of
not having this board, and right now, this is the only way I could
get it going !

thanx for coming in ! Anything you wanna say, you can say in here !


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "maicophile" <travisagle@y...> wrote:
> Hey Gooey,
>
> I remember you from the Maico Madness board.  It's good to have
> another message board for us Maico guys.  I have a '74 400 , '74
250,
> and a '75 400.  I really like to chat Maico.
>
> Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "ahrma70m" <ahrma70m@y...> wrote:
> HI !
>
> my upcoming 360 project needs a coil, I was approached by Paul (
> evolution@m... )   ... another source for Maico parts by the
> way , and he suggested converting to an external coil as was used
on
> the lions share of the bikes we are dealing with ...
>
> sounds like a GREAT idea !  anyone done it ??  sucessful ?? Im
buying
> this bike to build to ride/race and wanna make her reliable ! any
> input would certainly be welcome !

Have you thought about a PVL ignition? I know they are pricey buy
every one I know who has one swears by them.

Later,

Travis

Hey Gooey,

I remember you from the Maico Madness board.  It's good to have
another message board for us Maico guys.  I have a '74 400 , '74 250,
and a '75 400.  I really like to chat Maico.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm currently bringing back to life my factory bike.  It's a four
> speed 450...looks to have the 74/75 frame with the cosmetic holes
> around the upper shock mounts, and shocks rather far back on the
> swingarm.  The forks are internally sprung.  Wheelsmith work done
to
> the barrel, etc.
>
> It was a bitchen bike.  I hope I can resurrect it.
>
> Rich

Rich,

Sounds like a '75 because of the internal springs.  Do the front
frame tubes wrap around the head stock a bit where they meet it?  If
so it's a '75.  I have 2 '74s (250 and 400) and a '75 4 speed,
external spring 400.  I love 'em.

Later,

Travis

Sounds like a WAY cool machine ! I, for one, would LOVE to see pics
of the bike ... got one to post ?? ANy idea on the history of the
bike ??  If so, how did you track it ?? I am trying to track where my
250 has been and whats its seen, and hit some good info and some
roadblocks ....





--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "richkinslow" <rrkinslow@e...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm currently bringing back to life my factory bike.  It's a four
> speed 450...looks to have the 74/75 frame with the cosmetic holes
> around the upper shock mounts, and shocks rather far back on the
> swingarm.  The forks are internally sprung.  Wheelsmith work done
to
> the barrel, etc.
>
> It was a bitchen bike.  I hope I can resurrect it.
>
> Rich

Hi guys,

I'm currently bringing back to life my factory bike.  It's a four
speed 450...looks to have the 74/75 frame with the cosmetic holes
around the upper shock mounts, and shocks rather far back on the
swingarm.  The forks are internally sprung.  Wheelsmith work done to
the barrel, etc.

It was a bitchen bike.  I hope I can resurrect it.

Rich

HI !

my upcoming 360 project needs a coil, I was approached by Paul (
evolution@... )   ... another source for Maico parts by the
way , and he suggested converting to an external coil as was used on
the lions share of the bikes we are dealing with ...

sounds like a GREAT idea !  anyone done it ??  sucessful ?? Im buying
this bike to build to ride/race and wanna make her reliable ! any
input would certainly be welcome !

HI MIKE !

     where are you from ?? I can be found as AHRMA # 70m I hail for
Des moines iowa .. any pix of your beasts ???  Theres room to
show 'em off !   I dont have any pix of my runners, never really
thought about it ,, the only pic I had to put in was fo a 360 Im
getting ready to pick up !

I hope it takes off too, if you are like me, we really need some
group therapy  !   LOL !    thanx for signing up !



--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@y..., "mmurry78" <mmurry@s...> wrote:
> hey guys,
> just signed up for this group... I have many maicos.. hope this
group
> takes off....
> mike  ahrma 74m

hey guys,
just signed up for this group... I have many maicos.. hope this group
takes off....
mike  ahrma 74m

HI !  as the "founder" I want you to know this is not "MY" club .. it
is YOURS !   I think we need a forum like this, its been awhile since
we had one .. hopefully we can all help each other !    I am Mark
McGrew ( Gooey) from Des Moines Iowa, i am NOT the M3 racing Mark
McGrew from Minnesota ,,  I own a 1974 Maico 250 converted to similar
to Factory works specs, a GS450 that I have ridden all of about 15
minutes, and I "own" a 1969 360 that I havent seen yet,, in addition,
a Hodaka Dirt Squirt 100, a 1971 Honda Z50 K2, a 1974 Indian 100 ...
thats me, your turn !