Thanks for th input guys - looks like I may have some decisions to
make as I think I have enough for one - maybe two - life is good

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Travis Agle"
<travisagle@...> wrote:
>
> The original Frankenbike idea was to take the best features of
several
> years and combine them: '81 or '82 490 motor for power and
> tractability, '78 or '79 frame for handling, 42mm forks for
suspension
> performance and if one wants to go one step further, a Thor style
> swing arm and a nice set of Ohlins.
>
> A nice variation is the '81-82 250 reed motor in the '78-79
chassis.
>
> Travis
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Clark"
> <steven_d_clark@> wrote:
> >
> > I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety
of
> > approaches -
> >
> > I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"
> >
> > would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the
ultimate
> > frankenbike might be
> >
> > Configurations anyone?
> >
>

In a message dated 4/30/2006 9:50:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mega490@... writes:

> 2) The pilot jet appears to have a o-ring groove in it but there was
> no o-ring. It seems to me that there should there be an o-ring to
> seal the od or body of the pilot jet?

No, there are no orings on Bing pilots (or any other pilot jet that I know of
- maybe an Amal uses then, but then I don't really consider them to be much
of a carburetor anyway.)

Check your pilot jet to make sure it's not partially blocked - that will
cause the idle you describe.
Hal Sanguinetti
Track 'N Travel Maico
CH3NO2 Forever
Tigger's Digger B/FD


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My stock 81 490 started idling erratically, specifically what is
referred to as a "hanging idle" and turning the airscrew all the way
in and all the way out didn't make a difference. I removed and
disassembled the carb for rebuild and noted several items of concern:

1) The number 220 slide is worn and grooved pretty good and will be
replaced w/new.

2) The pilot jet appears to have a o-ring groove in it but there was
no o-ring. It seems to me that there should there be an o-ring to
seal the od or body of the pilot jet?

So far all the other jets and screws are good condition, the floats
and float level setting and inlet valve are all ok as are the needle
and jet. While racing the bike last weekend at Woodland it ran real
good from mid to top and had a nice looking plug color so I think
I've got an idle circuit problem going on here?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Fritz

I got one box from bultacoeast i think it was...
   Lemme check

   gary

Michael McCook <motox@...> wrote:
   Hi Gary,

Which eBay store do you get the NGK's from?

M!c


At 10:44 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
>BH8S goes in my pretty yellow square barrel.
>
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>albert_conte <alconte1956@...> wrote:
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>
>B8HS is what I am currently using.
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> >
> > Hello Maico Group
> > I am restoring a 1971 Square Barrell Maico.
> > Can anyone recomend the correct spark plug to use?
> > I am told the original plug was a Champion L2G.
> > Are their any other Manufacture's plugs you might recomend?,
> > If so what are the Plug numbers.
> > Thank you in advance
> > Bob W
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Violating...hahaha..thats funny  cause thats kinda how I feel about that
particular retrofit as well...I have an onogoing argument about the fact that
the Bing makes better power with all my Mikuni pals around here...all in good
fun of course until I roost em on Sundays !!!
   Eric, dont you ride a 495? Yeah those model 55's worked good now that you
mention it, although my 500 KTM had a Dell Orto on it. Wonder how that swap
would work on a 490....hmmmmm....

Eric Johnson <katoom.rider@...> wrote:
   Benny,
Your spot on with the lack of HP punch with a Mic carb. These 2 '83
490's, one a 4-speed, the other a 5-speed that im building were
noticably different in their performance before i tore them down.
That being the Sandspider with the Mikuni just didnt have the power
from mid to top like the Bing equipped 4 speed. The 4-speed seems to
hook up better by virtue of its tranny ratio's to the rear wheel,
but still it outperformed the Mikuni equipped very noticably. My KTM
with its model 55 Bing is just a perfect set-up, i cant imagine
violating it by converting to a Mikuni, i'd rather spend the $335
for a new one, no worries.

//Eric

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, Benny Durrrough
<motogeeze@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hogy,
>   I personally prefer a good working Bing over the Mikuni because
it gives more power if properly jetted in stock form. The Mikuni is
a viable replacement fo a worn out Bing, much cheaper than a new
Vergasser for sure.. While the Mikuni carburates better from idle it
doesnt seem to give the punch or top end that a Bing does without
being modified ie: cutting the intake bell and tapering the bore.
Theres a company that I know of here that does extensive mods to the
mikunis which while not cheap are highly effective.  Try
www.jastco.com  and check out the services they offer for making
your mikuni work
>   Your 83 being a reed valve motor will also be more tolerant of
the carb not being exactly spot on than a piston port motor as well.
Also if Im not mistaken the 83 carb was one of the late model
magnesium Bings with the choke lever rather than a tickler and those
seemed to work ok from what I remember about them. As far as using a
flatslide I put a pj  (flatslide) kehin on my 82 honda  480 to
replace the round slide stock carb and it works way better ..a
flatslide Mikuni I havent tried although I do have one  that I mite
mount to the 81 490 just to see how it works. Ive been told thats
the only way to exchange the Bing  and not loose any performance
horsepower wise. However I have a 250 4 speed that I ran a modified
Mikuni on which the intake was cut  back and tapered into the bore
and the whole bore polished that worked extremely well.
>   But by and large my experience has been that the stock Mikuni
while it IDLED great and started fairly easily and ran clean didnt
make the hp that the Bing did. Id like to have access to a dyno to
confirm these seat of the pants  postulations with hard numbers but
untill such a time they are subjective opinions which I render
without any claim to scientific merit. (And I'll probly get blasted
by all the guys that put Mikunis on their bikes )
>
> bluetolex <bluetolex@...> wrote:
>   I really don't have any complaints about the Bing carb on my '83
490,
> but I keep hearing that a Mikuni carb is supposed to be a
worthwhile
> upgrade. I e-mailed Sudco and they recommened the standard VM type
> over the flat slide TMs for my bike.
> What could I expect from a Mikuni? More power? Better response?
Better
> gas mileage?
>
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Benny,
Your spot on with the lack of HP punch with a Mic carb. These 2 '83
490's, one a 4-speed, the other a 5-speed that im building were
noticably different in their performance before i tore them down.
That being the Sandspider with the Mikuni just didnt have the power
from mid to top like the Bing equipped 4 speed. The 4-speed seems to
hook up better by virtue of its tranny ratio's to the rear wheel,
but still it outperformed the Mikuni equipped very noticably. My KTM
with its model 55 Bing is just a perfect set-up, i cant imagine
violating it by converting to a Mikuni, i'd rather spend the $335
for a new one, no worries.

//Eric

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, Benny Durrrough
<motogeeze@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hogy,
>   I personally prefer a good working Bing over the Mikuni because
it gives more power if properly jetted in stock form. The Mikuni is
a viable replacement fo a worn out Bing, much cheaper than a new
Vergasser for sure.. While the Mikuni carburates better from idle it
doesnt seem to give the punch or top end that a Bing does without
being modified ie: cutting the intake bell and tapering the bore.
Theres a company that I know of here that does extensive mods to the
mikunis which while not cheap are highly effective.  Try
www.jastco.com  and check out the services they offer for making
your mikuni work
>   Your 83 being a reed valve motor will also be more tolerant of
the carb not being exactly spot on than a piston port motor as well.
Also if Im not mistaken the 83 carb was one of the late model
magnesium Bings with the choke lever rather than a tickler and those
seemed to work ok from what I remember about them. As far as using a
flatslide I put a pj  (flatslide) kehin on my 82 honda  480 to
replace the round slide stock carb and it works way better ..a
flatslide Mikuni I havent tried although I do have one  that I mite
mount to the 81 490 just to see how it works. Ive been told thats
the only way to exchange the Bing  and not loose any performance
horsepower wise. However I have a 250 4 speed that I ran a modified
Mikuni on which the intake was cut  back and tapered into the bore
and the whole bore polished that worked extremely well.
>   But by and large my experience has been that the stock Mikuni
while it IDLED great and started fairly easily and ran clean didnt
make the hp that the Bing did. Id like to have access to a dyno to
confirm these seat of the pants  postulations with hard numbers but
untill such a time they are subjective opinions which I render
without any claim to scientific merit. (And I'll probly get blasted
by all the guys that put Mikunis on their bikes )
>
> bluetolex <bluetolex@...> wrote:
>   I really don't have any complaints about the Bing carb on my '83
490,
> but I keep hearing that a Mikuni carb is supposed to be a
worthwhile
> upgrade. I e-mailed Sudco and they recommened the standard VM type
> over the flat slide TMs for my bike.
> What could I expect from a Mikuni? More power? Better response?
Better
> gas mileage?
>
> Hogy
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Benny, I agree with you. A fresh Bing seems like they pull hard. On
81-250s, I use a Magnesium bodied Bing.Real pain to get the airboot
on, but really flow the mixture.The Bings seem to last a decent
amount of time on a reed motor bike..
Bill Eyler


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, Benny Durrrough
<motogeeze@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hogy,
>   I personally prefer a good working Bing over the Mikuni because
it gives more power if properly jetted in stock form. The Mikuni is
a viable replacement fo a worn out Bing, much cheaper than a new
Vergasser for sure.. While the Mikuni carburates better from idle it
doesnt seem to give the punch or top end that a Bing does without
being modified ie: cutting the intake bell and tapering the bore.
Theres a company that I know of here that does extensive mods to the
mikunis which while not cheap are highly effective.  Try
www.jastco.com  and check out the services they offer for making
your mikuni work
>   Your 83 being a reed valve motor will also be more tolerant of
the carb not being exactly spot on than a piston port motor as well.
Also if Im not mistaken the 83 carb was one of the late model
magnesium Bings with the choke lever rather than a tickler and those
seemed to work ok from what I remember about them. As far as using a
flatslide I put a pj  (flatslide) kehin on my 82 honda  480 to
replace the round slide stock carb and it works way better ..a
flatslide Mikuni I havent tried although I do have one  that I mite
mount to the 81 490 just to see how it works. Ive been told thats
the only way to exchange the Bing  and not loose any performance
horsepower wise. However I have a 250 4 speed that I ran a modified
Mikuni on which the intake was cut  back and tapered into the bore
and the whole bore polished that worked extremely well.
>   But by and large my experience has been that the stock Mikuni
while it IDLED great and started fairly easily and ran clean didnt
make the hp that the Bing did. Id like to have access to a dyno to
confirm these seat of the pants  postulations with hard numbers but
untill such a time they are subjective opinions which I render
without any claim to scientific merit. (And I'll probly get blasted
by all the guys that put Mikunis on their bikes )
>
> bluetolex <bluetolex@...> wrote:
>   I really don't have any complaints about the Bing carb on my '83
490,
> but I keep hearing that a Mikuni carb is supposed to be a
worthwhile
> upgrade. I e-mailed Sudco and they recommened the standard VM type
> over the flat slide TMs for my bike.
> What could I expect from a Mikuni? More power? Better response?
Better
> gas mileage?
>
> Hogy
>
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Hi Hogy,
   I personally prefer a good working Bing over the Mikuni because it gives more
power if properly jetted in stock form. The Mikuni is a viable replacement fo a
worn out Bing, much cheaper than a new Vergasser for sure.. While the Mikuni
carburates better from idle it doesnt seem to give the punch or top end that a
Bing does without being modified ie: cutting the intake bell and tapering the
bore. Theres a company that I know of here that does extensive mods to the
mikunis which while not cheap are highly effective.  Try www.jastco.com  and
check out the services they offer for making your mikuni work
   Your 83 being a reed valve motor will also be more tolerant of the carb not
being exactly spot on than a piston port motor as well. Also if Im not mistaken
the 83 carb was one of the late model magnesium Bings with the choke lever
rather than a tickler and those seemed to work ok from what I remember about
them. As far as using a flatslide I put a pj  (flatslide) kehin on my 82 honda 
480 to replace the round slide stock carb and it works way better ..a flatslide
Mikuni I havent tried although I do have one  that I mite mount to the 81 490
just to see how it works. Ive been told thats the only way to exchange the Bing 
and not loose any performance horsepower wise. However I have a 250 4 speed that
I ran a modified Mikuni on which the intake was cut  back and tapered into the
bore and the whole bore polished that worked extremely well.
   But by and large my experience has been that the stock Mikuni while it IDLED
great and started fairly easily and ran clean didnt make the hp that the Bing
did. Id like to have access to a dyno to confirm these seat of the pants 
postulations with hard numbers but untill such a time they are subjective
opinions which I render  without any claim to scientific merit. (And I'll probly
get blasted by all the guys that put Mikunis on their bikes )

bluetolex <bluetolex@...> wrote:
   I really don't have any complaints about the Bing carb on my '83 490,
but I keep hearing that a Mikuni carb is supposed to be a worthwhile
upgrade. I e-mailed Sudco and they recommened the standard VM type
over the flat slide TMs for my bike.
What could I expect from a Mikuni? More power? Better response? Better
gas mileage?

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The original Frankenbike idea was to take the best features of several
years and combine them: '81 or '82 490 motor for power and
tractability, '78 or '79 frame for handling, 42mm forks for suspension
performance and if one wants to go one step further, a Thor style
swing arm and a nice set of Ohlins.

A nice variation is the '81-82 250 reed motor in the '78-79 chassis.

Travis

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Clark"
<steven_d_clark@...> wrote:
>
> I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety of
> approaches -
>
> I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"
>
> would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the ultimate
> frankenbike might be
>
> Configurations anyone?
>

It appears the chain tensioner on this bike was not stock. It should
have had the normal slider.
According to the original owner it came with a chain tensioner wheel
and some other Wheelsmith parts, from the dealer in Michigan.
Now that it is apart I will have to see if I can rebuild it.
Thanks for all of you responses.

Dennis Spors
I bought my 74 and 82 Maico's from Wheelsmith. The had some amazing
stuff at the shop.






--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Spors" <vonspor@...>
wrote:
>
> I am looking for a skematic or photo for the chain tensioner for a
76
> aw 250. (I am not sure I have all the parts.)
> Any aftermarket alternatives? Mine looks like a skate board wheel.
> Also, does it change in 1977? (Wheel to a slider?)
>

something along the lines of a 78 or 79 frame, cut down 42mm forks,
and an 81 swingarm.


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Clark"
<steven_d_clark@...> wrote:
>
> I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety of
> approaches -
>
> I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"
>
> would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the ultimate
> frankenbike might be
>
> Configurations anyone?
>

I really don't have any complaints about the Bing carb on my '83 490,
but I keep hearing that a Mikuni carb is supposed to be a worthwhile
upgrade. I e-mailed Sudco and they recommened the standard VM type
over the flat slide TMs for my bike.
What could I expect from a Mikuni? More power? Better response? Better
gas mileage?

Hogy

I'm in the process of building a AHRMA legal 74 440 on a 75 250
frame. Using all the components from the 74 except the frame and
triple clamps. I think that one has to refer back to Boris Karloff's
original definition of a Frankenbike:

"A beast which is made from a collection of exising parts and
pieces. The end result being a finished product that is strong and
functional albeit extremely ugly"


Anyone racing a "frankenbike" must add 4" soles to his MX boots and
Schrader valves to his neck......too much coffee this am!

Fritz


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Clark"
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>
> I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety of
> approaches -
>
> I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"
>
> would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the ultimate
> frankenbike might be
>
> Configurations anyone?
>

I built a 78 400 with a 82 250 reed motor, stock forks, works
piggy-backs,82 front brake, v-force2 reeds,mik carb, Vi exhaust
pipe/circleF silencer. Great bike, ride it all the time.

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Clark"
<steven_d_clark@...> wrote:
>
> I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety of
> approaches -
>
> I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"
>
> would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the ultimate
> frankenbike might be
>
> Configurations anyone?
>

I was looking back thru posts, and there seems to be a variety of
approaches -

I have a pile of Maico parts and was ponering "the Ultimate"

would be interesting to define what peoples vision of the ultimate
frankenbike might be

Configurations anyone?

I just got off the phone with MO, and they said it's not normal.
Eric said I could send him the steel spacers, along with my axle,
and they'd make it right. I asked about the turnaround, and he said
same or next day. Not the easiest to get ahold of, but good guys!

Tony

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Tony King" <roc_boy@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm in (what I hope to be) the final steps of installing the
bushing
> kit in my '74 - just as I've got the swingarm, with it's new
> bushings, in place and I'm installing the swingarm pivot bolt, the
> bolt won't go through...
>
> I take it apart, and checking the clearances, there is a serious
> interference fit between the pivot bolt and the steel spacer
tubes,
> like the ID of the spacers equals the diameter of the bolt - 14mm.
> It won't go in more than an inch or two. I pulled the swingarm
bolt
> out of another frame to compare, and the fit was identical - too
> tight. I might be able to BEAT the axle in place, but I don't see
> that as being right. Anybody else using this kit experienced this
> problem?
>
> I'm trying to get ahold of MO on the phone, but no luck... If I
> can't get ahold of 'em, I guess it's back to the machine shop to
> have the spacers bored.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tk
>

I'm in (what I hope to be) the final steps of installing the bushing
kit in my '74 - just as I've got the swingarm, with it's new
bushings, in place and I'm installing the swingarm pivot bolt, the
bolt won't go through...

I take it apart, and checking the clearances, there is a serious
interference fit between the pivot bolt and the steel spacer tubes,
like the ID of the spacers equals the diameter of the bolt - 14mm.
It won't go in more than an inch or two. I pulled the swingarm bolt
out of another frame to compare, and the fit was identical - too
tight. I might be able to BEAT the axle in place, but I don't see
that as being right. Anybody else using this kit experienced this
problem?

I'm trying to get ahold of MO on the phone, but no luck... If I
can't get ahold of 'em, I guess it's back to the machine shop to
have the spacers bored.

Thanks,

tk

http://www.siegecraftnw.com/VDR-Finale-1.htm

Hi Eric, I have some Akronts on a 81-490 that were reanodized. They
came out real nice. Eric Cook did them.
Bill


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson"
<katoom.rider@...> wrote:
>
> Anybody have any success re-anodizing 490 rims the light gold color?
>
> Eric...
>

Anybody have any success re-anodizing 490 rims the light gold color?

Eric...

Randy,
Can you email me some pics of the 490? What you asking for it? my
email is maicobuddy@..., Buddy

> I just wanted to post a quick note that I am selling
> one of my 81 490s. Its totally rebuilt and ready to
> roll. Ive got pictures if any one want to see it,
> actually there is one pic in the photo gallery now in
> the 490 folder. I will also be at the national in
> Sanford next weekend. I just thought I would offer to
> you guys before I advertise elsewhere.
>
> Randy
>

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At 10:44 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
>BH8S goes in my pretty yellow square barrel.
>
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>   gary
>
>albert_conte <alconte1956@...> wrote:
>   Bob,
>
>B8HS is what I am currently using.
>
>Al
>
>
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> >
> > Hello Maico Group
> > I am restoring a 1971 Square Barrell Maico.
> > Can anyone recomend the correct spark plug to use?
> > I am told the original plug was a Champion L2G.
> > Are their any other Manufacture's plugs you might recomend?,
> > If so what are the Plug numbers.
> > Thank you in advance
> > Bob W
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I just wanted to post a quick note that I am selling
one of my 81 490s. Its totally rebuilt and ready to
roll. Ive got pictures if any one want to see it,
actually there is one pic in the photo gallery now in
the 490 folder. I will also be at the national in
Sanford next weekend. I just thought I would offer to
you guys before I advertise elsewhere.

Randy

BH8S goes in my pretty yellow square barrel.

   http://www.vintagemotocross.us/mybikesweb/pages/IMG_0061.htm

   I buy em on ebay by the box...way cheaper...

   gary

albert_conte <alconte1956@...> wrote:
   Bob,

B8HS is what I am currently using.

Al


--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "Bob White" <motox8r@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Maico Group
> I am restoring a 1971 Square Barrell Maico.
> Can anyone recomend the correct spark plug to use?
> I am told the original plug was a Champion L2G.
> Are their any other Manufacture's plugs you might recomend?,
> If so what are the Plug numbers.
> Thank you in advance
> Bob W
>






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Go back to the Yamaha dealer and see if he can get you the fiber
washer for a 74 TY250 or a 74-75 YZ250/360.  All of those petcocks are
a direct fit on the Maico tank nipple.

Of course, you will have to explain to the tatooed wonder that sits
behind the parts counter that Yamaha did indeed manufacture
motorcycles in the 70's. :-)  Maybe take a picture as proof.

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "tomale2ride" <tomale_g@...>
wrote:
>
> I love your attitude... go for it!
> I think the kits that Al sells is around 5 bucks but I could be
> wrong... none the less it is not much. As I have said before
> rebuilding the old ones is better, I have a set of petcocks that I
> would love to rebuild but as of yet have been unable to find the
> right pieces. The rubber piece in side the valve area that has the
> four holes in it is larger than the kit that Al sells and no one that
> I know has them. These look different from the outside beside size...
> there is a metal clip that holds the insides together.The older
> models used the smaller kit and were helf together by a nut with a
> hole in the center that the handle fit through. The later models used
> the larger kits. most of the European manufactors all used the same
> petcocks.. That would include Husky, Maico and Penton/KTM.... CZ
> maybe the odd one out. I had forgotten that Bing sells a kit too, if
> it is for the larger petcock, let me know and I will buy a set too.
> none the less that washer/gasket that fits between the petcock and
> the tank are all the same.
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
> <maicorick3@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > tomale, thanks for the tip on Al.
> >
> > After posting that, I found also the Bing Agency has rebuild kits
> > for $12 or so, and these include a washer. I suppose a freash
> > rebuild in the petcock couldn't hurt. It isn't leaking as it sits,
> > but if you put some pressure on the lever "in and out" (i.e. not
> > vertical as in the direction it spins, but horizontal like athwart
> > the bike) it leaks. Maybe a rebult will stop that.
> >
> > But still, the principle of the thing, a simple fibre washer
> > shouldn't have to be a mail order thing in a town the size of
> > Portland, OR. There has to be a place that has them. It has become
> a
> > misson. I'll try some chain saw shops next. Maybe an industrial
> > supply shop.
> >
> > -rcf
> >
> > --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "tomale2ride"
> > <tomale_g@> wrote:
> > >
> > > -RCF,
> > > This maybe a bit out there but have you tried Al buehner. He
> sells
> > a
> > > rebuild kit for Petcocks, He is a Penton dealer but the Petocks
> on
> > > most of the earlier model maico used the same Petcock, and even
> if
> > > the whole kit is of not much value, the gasket between the
> petcock
> > > and tank are the same... Also, have you tried, a nylon washer, I
> > used
> > > a nylon washer that came off my airless sprayer. I use to have
> > these
> > > flat tip spray nossle that I wasn't using anymore... went to a
> > > reversa clean style tip... anyway the washer for that was a
> little
> > on
> > > the big side but once inside worked really well..
> > > By the way, Al's number is 216 651 6559  ask for Al... Not much
> of
> > a
> > > talker but he knows his stuff and anything I have ordered from
> him
> > > has been to my house in a week or less....He is the first person
> I
> > > call when I need parts for the Penton/KTM's
> > > hope this helps...-- In
> > > MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The project 77 AW 250 needs a gas tank petcock gasket.
> > > >
> > > > I see I can get the correct one from HuskyClub, only $3.00
> each,
> > > and
> > > > minimum order $50.00. I tried auto parts (NAPA), they had
> > nothing
> > > > even close, everything too large.
> > > >
> > > > The Yamaha shop is hopeless. If I don't have a Yamaha Make and
> > > > Model, or part number, they don't even want to hear about it.
> > (Gone
> > > > are the days when the parts counter guy knew his parts.)
> > > >
> > > > The local True Value hardware man showed me a nice mylar flat
> > > > washer, ID is perfect, OD is easily trimmed with wife's best
> > sewing
> > > > scissors.
> > > >
> > > > I searched the web for compatibility of mylar and gasoline, and
> > > > couldn't find a thing, yay or nay.
> > > >
> > > > So what do y'all say, would mylar make a good gasket/washer for
> > the
> > > > petcock?
> > > >
> > > > What do you use, and where do you get it?
> > > >
> > > > -rcf
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

-Rick, Are you aware of the fact that there are more vintage races
going on up here in the northwest besides Ahrma stuff... We have the
Hammer and Tong series too. it is a three race series and requires no
club licence. A great bunch of guys and there is alway a good turn
out. we run both Vintage and Post Vintage and the average turn out is
about 250 entrants. Last Saturday was the last of the winter series
and we had over 400 entrants.. what a great day of racing.... The
first race of the Hammer and Tong is May 20-21 in Goldendale Wa. If I
remember right it is only a couple hours from Portland. Show up
anytime on Saturday, or come early and race the GrandPrix in the
afternoon and then stay for sunday for the Motocross...



-- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@...>
wrote:
>
>
> tomale, thanks for the tip on Al.
>
> After posting that, I found also the Bing Agency has rebuild kits
> for $12 or so, and these include a washer. I suppose a freash
> rebuild in the petcock couldn't hurt. It isn't leaking as it sits,
> but if you put some pressure on the lever "in and out" (i.e. not
> vertical as in the direction it spins, but horizontal like athwart
> the bike) it leaks. Maybe a rebult will stop that.
>
> But still, the principle of the thing, a simple fibre washer
> shouldn't have to be a mail order thing in a town the size of
> Portland, OR. There has to be a place that has them. It has become
a
> misson. I'll try some chain saw shops next. Maybe an industrial
> supply shop.
>
> -rcf
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "tomale2ride"
> <tomale_g@> wrote:
> >
> > -RCF,
> > This maybe a bit out there but have you tried Al buehner. He
sells
> a
> > rebuild kit for Petcocks, He is a Penton dealer but the Petocks
on
> > most of the earlier model maico used the same Petcock, and even
if
> > the whole kit is of not much value, the gasket between the
petcock
> > and tank are the same... Also, have you tried, a nylon washer, I
> used
> > a nylon washer that came off my airless sprayer. I use to have
> these
> > flat tip spray nossle that I wasn't using anymore... went to a
> > reversa clean style tip... anyway the washer for that was a
little
> on
> > the big side but once inside worked really well..
> > By the way, Al's number is 216 651 6559  ask for Al... Not much
of
> a
> > talker but he knows his stuff and anything I have ordered from
him
> > has been to my house in a week or less....He is the first person
I
> > call when I need parts for the Penton/KTM's
> > hope this helps...-- In
> > MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The project 77 AW 250 needs a gas tank petcock gasket.
> > >
> > > I see I can get the correct one from HuskyClub, only $3.00
each,
> > and
> > > minimum order $50.00. I tried auto parts (NAPA), they had
> nothing
> > > even close, everything too large.
> > >
> > > The Yamaha shop is hopeless. If I don't have a Yamaha Make and
> > > Model, or part number, they don't even want to hear about it.
> (Gone
> > > are the days when the parts counter guy knew his parts.)
> > >
> > > The local True Value hardware man showed me a nice mylar flat
> > > washer, ID is perfect, OD is easily trimmed with wife's best
> sewing
> > > scissors.
> > >
> > > I searched the web for compatibility of mylar and gasoline, and
> > > couldn't find a thing, yay or nay.
> > >
> > > So what do y'all say, would mylar make a good gasket/washer for
> the
> > > petcock?
> > >
> > > What do you use, and where do you get it?
> > >
> > > -rcf
> > >
> >
>

I love your attitude... go for it!
I think the kits that Al sells is around 5 bucks but I could be
wrong... none the less it is not much. As I have said before
rebuilding the old ones is better, I have a set of petcocks that I
would love to rebuild but as of yet have been unable to find the
right pieces. The rubber piece in side the valve area that has the
four holes in it is larger than the kit that Al sells and no one that
I know has them. These look different from the outside beside size...
there is a metal clip that holds the insides together.The older
models used the smaller kit and were helf together by a nut with a
hole in the center that the handle fit through. The later models used
the larger kits. most of the European manufactors all used the same
petcocks.. That would include Husky, Maico and Penton/KTM.... CZ
maybe the odd one out. I had forgotten that Bing sells a kit too, if
it is for the larger petcock, let me know and I will buy a set too.
none the less that washer/gasket that fits between the petcock and
the tank are all the same.

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3"
<maicorick3@...> wrote:
>
>
> tomale, thanks for the tip on Al.
>
> After posting that, I found also the Bing Agency has rebuild kits
> for $12 or so, and these include a washer. I suppose a freash
> rebuild in the petcock couldn't hurt. It isn't leaking as it sits,
> but if you put some pressure on the lever "in and out" (i.e. not
> vertical as in the direction it spins, but horizontal like athwart
> the bike) it leaks. Maybe a rebult will stop that.
>
> But still, the principle of the thing, a simple fibre washer
> shouldn't have to be a mail order thing in a town the size of
> Portland, OR. There has to be a place that has them. It has become
a
> misson. I'll try some chain saw shops next. Maybe an industrial
> supply shop.
>
> -rcf
>
> --- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "tomale2ride"
> <tomale_g@> wrote:
> >
> > -RCF,
> > This maybe a bit out there but have you tried Al buehner. He
sells
> a
> > rebuild kit for Petcocks, He is a Penton dealer but the Petocks
on
> > most of the earlier model maico used the same Petcock, and even
if
> > the whole kit is of not much value, the gasket between the
petcock
> > and tank are the same... Also, have you tried, a nylon washer, I
> used
> > a nylon washer that came off my airless sprayer. I use to have
> these
> > flat tip spray nossle that I wasn't using anymore... went to a
> > reversa clean style tip... anyway the washer for that was a
little
> on
> > the big side but once inside worked really well..
> > By the way, Al's number is 216 651 6559  ask for Al... Not much
of
> a
> > talker but he knows his stuff and anything I have ordered from
him
> > has been to my house in a week or less....He is the first person
I
> > call when I need parts for the Penton/KTM's
> > hope this helps...-- In
> > MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The project 77 AW 250 needs a gas tank petcock gasket.
> > >
> > > I see I can get the correct one from HuskyClub, only $3.00
each,
> > and
> > > minimum order $50.00. I tried auto parts (NAPA), they had
> nothing
> > > even close, everything too large.
> > >
> > > The Yamaha shop is hopeless. If I don't have a Yamaha Make and
> > > Model, or part number, they don't even want to hear about it.
> (Gone
> > > are the days when the parts counter guy knew his parts.)
> > >
> > > The local True Value hardware man showed me a nice mylar flat
> > > washer, ID is perfect, OD is easily trimmed with wife's best
> sewing
> > > scissors.
> > >
> > > I searched the web for compatibility of mylar and gasoline, and
> > > couldn't find a thing, yay or nay.
> > >
> > > So what do y'all say, would mylar make a good gasket/washer for
> the
> > > petcock?
> > >
> > > What do you use, and where do you get it?
> > >
> > > -rcf
> > >
> >
>

tomale, thanks for the tip on Al.

After posting that, I found also the Bing Agency has rebuild kits
for $12 or so, and these include a washer. I suppose a freash
rebuild in the petcock couldn't hurt. It isn't leaking as it sits,
but if you put some pressure on the lever "in and out" (i.e. not
vertical as in the direction it spins, but horizontal like athwart
the bike) it leaks. Maybe a rebult will stop that.

But still, the principle of the thing, a simple fibre washer
shouldn't have to be a mail order thing in a town the size of
Portland, OR. There has to be a place that has them. It has become a
misson. I'll try some chain saw shops next. Maybe an industrial
supply shop.

-rcf

--- In MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "tomale2ride"
<tomale_g@...> wrote:
>
> -RCF,
> This maybe a bit out there but have you tried Al buehner. He sells
a
> rebuild kit for Petcocks, He is a Penton dealer but the Petocks on
> most of the earlier model maico used the same Petcock, and even if
> the whole kit is of not much value, the gasket between the petcock
> and tank are the same... Also, have you tried, a nylon washer, I
used
> a nylon washer that came off my airless sprayer. I use to have
these
> flat tip spray nossle that I wasn't using anymore... went to a
> reversa clean style tip... anyway the washer for that was a little
on
> the big side but once inside worked really well..
> By the way, Al's number is 216 651 6559  ask for Al... Not much of
a
> talker but he knows his stuff and anything I have ordered from him
> has been to my house in a week or less....He is the first person I
> call when I need parts for the Penton/KTM's
> hope this helps...-- In
> MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The project 77 AW 250 needs a gas tank petcock gasket.
> >
> > I see I can get the correct one from HuskyClub, only $3.00 each,
> and
> > minimum order $50.00. I tried auto parts (NAPA), they had
nothing
> > even close, everything too large.
> >
> > The Yamaha shop is hopeless. If I don't have a Yamaha Make and
> > Model, or part number, they don't even want to hear about it.
(Gone
> > are the days when the parts counter guy knew his parts.)
> >
> > The local True Value hardware man showed me a nice mylar flat
> > washer, ID is perfect, OD is easily trimmed with wife's best
sewing
> > scissors.
> >
> > I searched the web for compatibility of mylar and gasoline, and
> > couldn't find a thing, yay or nay.
> >
> > So what do y'all say, would mylar make a good gasket/washer for
the
> > petcock?
> >
> > What do you use, and where do you get it?
> >
> > -rcf
> >
>

-RCF,
This maybe a bit out there but have you tried Al buehner. He sells a
rebuild kit for Petcocks, He is a Penton dealer but the Petocks on
most of the earlier model maico used the same Petcock, and even if
the whole kit is of not much value, the gasket between the petcock
and tank are the same... Also, have you tried, a nylon washer, I used
a nylon washer that came off my airless sprayer. I use to have these
flat tip spray nossle that I wasn't using anymore... went to a
reversa clean style tip... anyway the washer for that was a little on
the big side but once inside worked really well..
By the way, Al's number is 216 651 6559  ask for Al... Not much of a
talker but he knows his stuff and anything I have ordered from him
has been to my house in a week or less....He is the first person I
call when I need parts for the Penton/KTM's
hope this helps...-- In
MAICOMOTORCYCLES@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <maicorick3@...> wrote:
>
>
> The project 77 AW 250 needs a gas tank petcock gasket.
>
> I see I can get the correct one from HuskyClub, only $3.00 each,
and
> minimum order $50.00. I tried auto parts (NAPA), they had nothing
> even close, everything too large.
>
> The Yamaha shop is hopeless. If I don't have a Yamaha Make and
> Model, or part number, they don't even want to hear about it. (Gone
> are the days when the parts counter guy knew his parts.)
>
> The local True Value hardware man showed me a nice mylar flat
> washer, ID is perfect, OD is easily trimmed with wife's best sewing
> scissors.
>
> I searched the web for compatibility of mylar and gasoline, and
> couldn't find a thing, yay or nay.
>
> So what do y'all say, would mylar make a good gasket/washer for the
> petcock?
>
> What do you use, and where do you get it?
>
> -rcf
>