Hi again Joe,

What year were you in that area? It's funny to me how the whole moo
thing has evolved. It used to be really hard core when they first
started out. Then it got a little bit watered down in the 90's. And
now, it's just pitiful. At least from what I see of their students.
They shouldn't have changed their model. Once they got money hungry,
they lost all of their great talented instructors.

My experience, martially speaking, was not a bad one. I was in when it
was still pretty hard core ( and I had an instructor; Michael Leoni,
that had a clue about movement ) and I've found that I pick up new
things very quickly now because of my training then.

My main issue was the whole higher level Mind-Body training and respect
line, all the while charging me way too much money.

The idea of what they were preaching was a good one; brother/sister-
hood, a higher moral path, community, and other grandious statements.
They just didn't walk the walk. The longer I stayed in, the more
apparent it became to me.

Now, when I meet people like Sifu Guro Dan, Sifu George, Mr. Salomone,
Mr. Barr, Miguel Hierro, etc... they welcome me without any questions
asked, as a Gung Fu brother. Not as if I'm some slave that has
to "earn" what they have. They have a skill and are willing to
teach/share it and hope that I will make it my own and in turn pass it
to the next generation.

I don't have a problem paying someone for this knowledge. And I don't
have any problems trying to make a living teaching what I know. They/I
earned that right. I just don't think because we know how to punch and
kick better than most, that we can suck our students dry of everything
they have. How can they sleep at night is what I want to know?

That's enough ranting for now.

Where are you located now? Will you be at the workshop in Rochester in
a couple of weeks?

In peace, Jerry

--- In LiuSeongGungFu@yahoogroups.com, "mas_judt" <mas_judt@...> wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> I grew up in the West suburbs of Chicago - so I was surrounded by them
> and had lots of interaction at high school parties, 'visiting' the
> schools for free private lessons for personal amusement and other
> general bad behavior. I was lucky that I had been exposed to some okay
> stuff before encountering the Moo, so I was not roped in - I had
> another frame of reference that protected me from them.
>
> I'm amazed at how many people they roped in, but people today do not
> know what it was like then - the complete absence of real knowledge in
> regards to history, methods, anything - it was easy for goofs like Kim
> to fool the public. And a lot of good people got taken.
>
> -- Joe
>