Jerry,
I grew up in the West suburbs of Chicago - so I was surrounded by them
and had lots of interaction at high school parties, 'visiting' the
schools for free private lessons for personal amusement and other
general bad behavior. I was lucky that I had been exposed to some okay
stuff before encountering the Moo, so I was not roped in - I had
another frame of reference that protected me from them.

I'm amazed at how many people they roped in, but people today do not
know what it was like then - the complete absence of real knowledge in
regards to history, methods, anything - it was easy for goofs like Kim
to fool the public. And a lot of good people got taken.

-- Joe