Not to be a smart alec but my approach on names and origins
is "blah". In many cases this can be pertinent info but with the
secrecy of the arts, clans, origins etc. can be a waste of you' re
time. As quiet as it's kept alot of that stuff is implemented to keep
you further away from the reality... The art is in the skill, not the
name. Once you' ve got the skill what difference does it make what
the name is. Later you will see people of other backrounds move
around and from there you can answer those style questions. Untill
then it's a mystery and should be.
peace
D
--- In LiuSeongGungFu@yahoogroups.com, Erik Harris <erik@...> wrote:
>
> At 11:22 AM 8/31/2006, rick_3252 wrote:
> >Anyone know about the origin of this form which comes after Four
Point
> >I think? Please correct my spelling also, but I believe it sounds
like
> >the two syllables in quotes.
>
> I've learned it as Saolin, and that it's supposedly from a Northern
Shaolin
> gungfu system (though honestly, it bares little resemblance to any
Northern
> Shaolin systems I've seen). Personally, I suspect its name is a
> mispronunciation of Shaolin.
>
> I'd love to get independent verification of the origins of a lot of
our
> forms, but I don't think that's likely to happen, especially since
no one
> seems to be sure of the "proper" names of most of our forms (i.e.
the
> Chinese characters or the meanings of the form names). :) I've
found very
> little information about our system outside its practitioners.
I've made a
> few efforts and have been met with limited success (someone with
much more
> and broader experience than myself immediately recognized Hok Chan
as very
> typical of Hokkien White Crane, another person recognized Hok Chan
as the
> name of an extinct gungfu system, and a Kwitang teacher verified
that the
> first half of our Kwitang form looks a lot like Mustika Kwitang
Silat,
> though the rest didn't look like anything he'd learned).
>
> Erik Harris http://www.eHarrisHome.com
> - Chinese-Indonesian Martial Arts Club, Alexandria VA -
> - http://www.kungfu-silat.com/ -
>