Cool no problem.

Thats a good plan.

Eating small bites are definitely beneficial for consuming
elephants... and 20's are elephants.

I have to get back to 20 rep squats again. Counting wise I would aim
for 10 reps, then aim for 5 reps, then another 5 that worked well for me.






>
> I appreciate it and thanks again for the advice. I'm going to
> continue to do these 20 rep sets throughout this diet, doing 2 sets of
> squats and one set of leg press and then the next time around 2 sets
> of leg press and one of squats and may throw some deadlifts in the mix
> too. Will keep you posted on progress.
> I wanted to share this too - One thing I discovered which helps me
> get the most from myself on those long brutal sets is focusing
> completely on JUST the single rep which I'm trying to complete. I
> find that if I go into the set shooting for 20 reps, and thinking
> about doing 20 reps of this heavy weight, it feels daunting and breaks
> up my focus. But concentrating on only one rep at a time makes the
> set go by in a much better way and next thing I know I've done 20
> reps. Just something to try for anyone who has trouble with those -
>
> --- In LawrenceHosannahFanClub@yahoogroups.com, "lhosannah"
> <lhosannah@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah it is brutal.
> >
> > The squat and leg press combination works really well.
> >
> > Good to hear that your pushing like that, excellent gains will be
> > yours for sure.
> >
> > Law
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I never thought of doing squats and deadlifts in the same day. That
> > > is brutal. Might have to give it a try though. I've been doing 20
> > > rep sets of squats and leg presses the past couple weeks, which also
> > > brutal. At least the way I do them it is. Felt close to
passing out
> > > the other day after a set of squats where it took literally
every once
> > > of energy I had to get the last couple reps. Sure is a fantastic
> > > feeling when its over though! Quite a rush of, uhhhh - endorphins I
> > > guess.
> > >
> > > --- In LawrenceHosannahFanClub@yahoogroups.com, "lhosannah"
> > > <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah he used a modified pre-exhaust that allowed for a bit of rest
> > > > between exercises, unlike Art Jones/ Mentzer pre exhaust which
> > > > involves moving from one movement straight into the other.
Dorian's
> > > > version allows for more weight to be used during the second
exercise
> > > > and also allows the trainee to stay anaerobic. I've tried
both, both
> > > > have their benefits.
> > > >
> > > > Regards squats and deads in the same workout, like everything
> else it
> > > > depends on what you are trying to accomplish and your stage of
> > > > training. At one point I was doing both in the same workout, which
> > > > caused a lot of growth. There also was a time where I super
> setted 20
> > > > rep squats with 15 rep stiff-legged deadlifts, that was brutal.
> > > > Nowadays I perform them on different days, Sunday overall
thighs and
> > > > deadlifts on Mondays every 3 weeks.
> > > >
> > > > So to answer your question you have to see what format allows
you to
> > > > get stronger while gaining mass, experiment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cool, it looks like he pre-exhausted his quads before going
> into the
> > > > pressing movements.
> > > > > Do you advocate doing Squats and deadlifts in the same
workout, or
> > > > would that be too much?
> > > > >
> > > > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote: More
> > > > so the standing squatting motions hacks, smith squats. Those type
> > > > > of movements put a great deal of stress on the spine, and as a
> > result
> > > > > the body builds up a lot of muscle to protect itself... the
> > > reason why
> > > > > I think that squats and deadlifts are so effective.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of Dorian's quad workouts
> > > > >
> > > > > Leg extension 2 warm ups 15-12 1 work set 10-12
> > > > > Leg press 1 warm up 10-12 1 work set 12
> > > > > hack squats 1 warm up 10-12 1 work set 12
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah I heard the same thing about squats not agreeing
with his
> > > > > structure. I didn't know that you were counting leg presses
> > and hack
> > > > > squats as squats but it's definitely all the same movement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > > > > Actually he did squat. In the early part of his career he used
> > > barbell
> > > > > > squats but found that they didn't agree with his structure.
> > Dorian
> > > > > > switched over to other forms of squatting such as smith
> machine
> > > > squats
> > > > > > and hack squats, which are definitely squatting motions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I was trained by Dorian in 2000 he said the reason he
> > > suggested
> > > > > > smith machine squats is because they allow a person to place
> > more
> > > > > > stress on their quads, take stress of their back, and allows
> > > them to
> > > > > > focus on going to failure without worrying about balance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've heard that Dorian Yates never squatted. Didn't
seem to
> > > keep
> > > > > > him from winning 6 Mr. O's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > I've
> > > > > > included my comments in your text
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think our food and general knowledge of food has
> evolved
> > > > > since then
> > > > > > > > and I think people are living longer now and what
not. I
> > > > > don't know
> > > > > > > > if we could compare now to then without recreating
those
> > > > > conditions.
> > > > > > > > From some of the pics I've seen, those bodybuilders
from
> > > > the 30's
> > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > about my size. And although I do hold a high opinion of
> > > > myself, I
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > that I'm a mere pissant next to todays competitors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Law: I agree that there has been progress in our
> > > understanding of
> > > > > > > nutrition and training. More understanding today
> doesn't mean
> > > > that
> > > > > > > they weren't applying what mattered back then though.
> > They ate
> > > > > lots of
> > > > > > > quality sources of protein as well as other nutrients.
> > > > Training wise
> > > > > > > they were a bit off, for example they didn't push their
> > > squats in
> > > > > > > terms of poundage.. and squats are a requirement for the
> > > greatest
> > > > > > growth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like being natural though which is one reason I
> listen
> > > > to your
> > > > > > > > advice. I thought of taking drugs and it probobly
> wouldn't
> > > > > > destroy my
> > > > > > > > life or health but it would certainly complicate
> things. I
> > > > > see that
> > > > > > > > now natural competitions are becoming more prevalent
> and if
> > > > > you look
> > > > > > > > around online you'll see lots of people talking about
> > > "natural
> > > > > > > > bodybuilding". Maybe this is the next step in the
> > > evolution of
> > > > > > > > bodybuilding?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Law: If there has been a benefit to the war against
> steroids
> > > > its the
> > > > > > > drive for drug free sports.. natural bodybuilders might
> > > > benefit from
> > > > > > > this. I will be interesting to see what would happen to
> > > > bodybuilding
> > > > > > > if it was cleaned up for real.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Law
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In LawrenceHosannahFanClub@yahoogroups.com,
> "lhosannah"
> > > > > > > > <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Question have bodybuilders continued to evolve and
> > > progress?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If drugs, nutritional supplements and superior
> > > equipment were
> > > > > > removed
> > > > > > > > > from bodybuilding would bodybuilders resemble the
> > > > > bodybuilders from
> > > > > > > > > the 1930's or would they be better?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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