Yeah it is brutal.

The squat and leg press combination works really well.

Good to hear that your pushing like that, excellent gains will be
yours for sure.

Law



>
> I never thought of doing squats and deadlifts in the same day. That
> is brutal. Might have to give it a try though. I've been doing 20
> rep sets of squats and leg presses the past couple weeks, which also
> brutal. At least the way I do them it is. Felt close to passing out
> the other day after a set of squats where it took literally every once
> of energy I had to get the last couple reps. Sure is a fantastic
> feeling when its over though! Quite a rush of, uhhhh - endorphins I
> guess.
>
> --- In LawrenceHosannahFanClub@yahoogroups.com, "lhosannah"
> <lhosannah@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah he used a modified pre-exhaust that allowed for a bit of rest
> > between exercises, unlike Art Jones/ Mentzer pre exhaust which
> > involves moving from one movement straight into the other. Dorian's
> > version allows for more weight to be used during the second exercise
> > and also allows the trainee to stay anaerobic. I've tried both, both
> > have their benefits.
> >
> > Regards squats and deads in the same workout, like everything else it
> > depends on what you are trying to accomplish and your stage of
> > training. At one point I was doing both in the same workout, which
> > caused a lot of growth. There also was a time where I super setted 20
> > rep squats with 15 rep stiff-legged deadlifts, that was brutal.
> > Nowadays I perform them on different days, Sunday overall thighs and
> > deadlifts on Mondays every 3 weeks.
> >
> > So to answer your question you have to see what format allows you to
> > get stronger while gaining mass, experiment.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Cool, it looks like he pre-exhausted his quads before going into the
> > pressing movements.
> > > Do you advocate doing Squats and deadlifts in the same workout, or
> > would that be too much?
> > >
> > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote: More
> > so the standing squatting motions hacks, smith squats. Those type
> > > of movements put a great deal of stress on the spine, and as a
result
> > > the body builds up a lot of muscle to protect itself... the
> reason why
> > > I think that squats and deadlifts are so effective.
> > >
> > > One of Dorian's quad workouts
> > >
> > > Leg extension 2 warm ups 15-12 1 work set 10-12
> > > Leg press 1 warm up 10-12 1 work set 12
> > > hack squats 1 warm up 10-12 1 work set 12
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah I heard the same thing about squats not agreeing with his
> > > structure. I didn't know that you were counting leg presses
and hack
> > > squats as squats but it's definitely all the same movement.
> > > >
> > > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > > Actually he did squat. In the early part of his career he used
> barbell
> > > > squats but found that they didn't agree with his structure.
Dorian
> > > > switched over to other forms of squatting such as smith machine
> > squats
> > > > and hack squats, which are definitely squatting motions.
> > > >
> > > > When I was trained by Dorian in 2000 he said the reason he
> suggested
> > > > smith machine squats is because they allow a person to place
more
> > > > stress on their quads, take stress of their back, and allows
> them to
> > > > focus on going to failure without worrying about balance.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've heard that Dorian Yates never squatted. Didn't seem to
> keep
> > > > him from winning 6 Mr. O's
> > > > >
> > > > > lhosannah <lhosannah@> wrote:
I've
> > > > included my comments in your text
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think our food and general knowledge of food has evolved
> > > since then
> > > > > > and I think people are living longer now and what not. I
> > > don't know
> > > > > > if we could compare now to then without recreating those
> > > conditions.
> > > > > > From some of the pics I've seen, those bodybuilders from
> > the 30's
> > > > look
> > > > > > about my size. And although I do hold a high opinion of
> > myself, I
> > > > know
> > > > > > that I'm a mere pissant next to todays competitors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Law: I agree that there has been progress in our
> understanding of
> > > > > nutrition and training. More understanding today doesn't mean
> > that
> > > > > they weren't applying what mattered back then though.
They ate
> > > lots of
> > > > > quality sources of protein as well as other nutrients.
> > Training wise
> > > > > they were a bit off, for example they didn't push their
> squats in
> > > > > terms of poundage.. and squats are a requirement for the
> greatest
> > > > growth.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I like being natural though which is one reason I listen
> > to your
> > > > > > advice. I thought of taking drugs and it probobly wouldn't
> > > > destroy my
> > > > > > life or health but it would certainly complicate things. I
> > > see that
> > > > > > now natural competitions are becoming more prevalent and if
> > > you look
> > > > > > around online you'll see lots of people talking about
> "natural
> > > > > > bodybuilding". Maybe this is the next step in the
> evolution of
> > > > > > bodybuilding?
> > > > >
> > > > > Law: If there has been a benefit to the war against steroids
> > its the
> > > > > drive for drug free sports.. natural bodybuilders might
> > benefit from
> > > > > this. I will be interesting to see what would happen to
> > bodybuilding
> > > > > if it was cleaned up for real.
> > > > >
> > > > > Law
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In LawrenceHosannahFanClub@yahoogroups.com, "lhosannah"
> > > > > > <lhosannah@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Question have bodybuilders continued to evolve and
> progress?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If drugs, nutritional supplements and superior
> equipment were
> > > > removed
> > > > > > > from bodybuilding would bodybuilders resemble the
> > > bodybuilders from
> > > > > > > the 1930's or would they be better?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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