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#979 From: "Mike" <department11@...>
Date: Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:22 pm
Subject: Club Meeting Notes 2/6/07
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Lakeside Meeting Notes:   Feb 6, 2007

 

President: Keith - Badger

VP: Ben - Dover

Treasurer Sherry - DD

Scribe: Mike - Griz

 

 

Members Present: Keith / Badger, Sherry  / DD, Steve / Lamar, Mike / Griz, Berna Sue / ?  and Greg / Moonshine.

 

Don't forget the love of your life on Valentines day:

 

Untitled Poem by "Shawdowcat" from Colorado (as found on the Internet)

The corporate office is so stuffy
I would not change in there.
I've got to find a discreet spot
To bare my derriere.
The truck cab is so very small
I hate these daily fights,
But since the bike is calling me
I squirm into my tights.
The special socks, my jersey too,
the sun block's been applied,
Gloves and glasses and a helmet—
When will I get to ride?
The tire pressure is okay,
the brakes are working fine,
I finally start to ride my bike
When my thighs begin to whine.
I rode too much the day before,
I needed some more rest.
To hell with that! I cry out loud,
I have to pass the test.
There is no test you silly fool,
You made it up yourself.
You ride like mad with grand delusions
That you are top shelf.
You are not Lance, you are not Hammer
You have to take a chill.
No way I tell that inner voice,
Look at that lovely hill!
All the gear and all the checking
Just to crank out miles.
The soreness and the tired legs
Turn into great big smiles.

 

 

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =  

 

Membership Renewals / New Members: 

None Reported.

 

Membership cards: 

Ben has the membership cards on his desk, but he hasn't been able to get them laminated for distribution.

 

Treasury report: 

We have $475 or $495.  A recount will be done before next months meeting.

 

Bike Schedule - Winter Rides 

Keep checking Yahoo postings & Email

 

Flyers: 

As always, we need more. They keep disappearing from the locations we're leaving them.  Steve said he'd take some to the Bike America too in case other riders from this side of the world go out there too.

 

Club Logo:

No updates

 

CLUB SPONSORSHIP:  

No updates

 

CLUB Jerseys:  

·        Steve suggested using the art work that's been created for some other kind of clothing (such as dry wicking shirts, or hats, etc) since it's taking us so long to finalize something with bike jerseys. 

·        The idea was well received, and doing a jerseys in the future is still on the table, but we may need a volunteer outside of the board members to take ownership of that project. 

If you really want a Lakeside Bike Jersey (someday) then here is your chance to make that happen.

 

 

Insurance:

Badger determined the cost would be $93 for the insurance plus $45 (per year) to join the League of American Bicyclists.

If we have any fund raising or "pay rides" we would have to pay another $93

 

Just like most insurance policies it has interesting rules about what is covered and what isn't.  We need to have further discussion regarding that to determine if it's worth getting.

 

Sherry is going to research registering Lakeside Cyclist as a Non Profit organization to see what that would do to eliminate our liabilities as apposed to paying for the insurance which may not cover everything as well as we'd prefer.

 

 

Constitution & Bylaws: 

No updates.

 

Time Trials for 2007:  no change….

Starts on May 1st.

Races will be Every Other Tuesday, 6pm.

We will have a total of 12 trials, but….

Points will be counted on each person's first 10 races.

That gives everyone a chance to miss two races without getting hurt on the overall points chase.

 

Note: We will have the club meeting after the races on two of those nights.

Note: Racing on Tuesday nights to give us a day to recover after long weekend rides or races, and we're doing them every other week to see if that makes it easier for folks to make it to more races.

 

 

We're still looking for ideas on how to streamline the race next season.

Last years method of splitting the group and having two people time everyone else, then letting them do their laps might take too much time with the two lap format.  If you have thoughts on how to improve on that method please let us know.

 

Current suggestions and thoughts are:

 

Recruit our non-riding friends or family to be timers.

Switch timers as soon as the first person finishes and can take over, rather than waiting for the entire first group to finish before changing timers.

Get a sponsor to donate a multi thousand dollar chip timing system!!

 

 

 

Upcoming events:

 

April 14th (Saturday) Lunatic Fringe Off Road Duathlon at Smithville Lake.

 

This is part of the Fat Tire Duathlon series. Find more information at:

http://www.midwestfattireseries.com/

 

April 1: 2007 (Sunday) Brew to Brew relay run.  http://www.brewtobrew.com/

 

We have several people interested in doing this but we're looking for more participants to fill out the race.  The current list who've expressed interest are:  Steve, Richard, Keith, Mike, Berna Sue, (and you????)

 

We'll also be looking for a designated driver with a designated support vehicle.  It's been suggested to have blaze orange for our official team color.

 

 

OPEN Discussion

Cheap Trek bikes are flying out the door of one not so local bike shop as Steve snatches up discounted overstock. 

 

In honor of Valentines day, and as a display of true love, Steve is giving his loving and understanding wife (DD) a new bike too.  Okay, it's not new, it's his old used bike, but then again, I'm not sure he's ever owned a bike long enough for it to qualify for old or used.

 

Yes, I'm just picking on him because I'm jealous. Well there's that plus he didn't give me his old Triathlon bike. I had to buy it. What's up with that?

 

 

FIMQ (Foot In Mouth Quote) of the meeting: 

Steve again:  Apparently Steve didn't wear pants when he did the Triathlon in Texas. 

 

It makes Richard and I even happier that he was BEHIND us in that race!

 

[end of meeting notes] 

 

Sorry if this gets posted twice, I forgot to include a subject line the first time and the post hasn't shown up yet so I submitted it again.


#903 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:02 pm
Subject: RE: Lakeside Meeting Notes: 12/5/06 ** Tis the season **
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Excellent job.  I knew you were the best candidate for the office.
When will the recorded version be available for download on Napster?
 
-----Original Message-----
From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:42 PM
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Lakeside Meeting Notes: 12/5/06 ** Tis the season **

Sorry for the delay, I thought some Christmas themed meeting notes were in order, but it took me a while to convert them.  

Lakeside Meeting Notes:   12/5/06

President: Keith - Badger

VP: Ben - Dover

Treasurer Sherry - DD

Scribe: Mike - Griz

Members Present: Keith, Richard, Sherry, Steve, Greg, Mike, Berna Sue, and Ben.

Twas the meeting before Christmas and all through the restaurant.

Bike club members were stirring, for their beer they did want.

Their orders were hanging on their lips with great care.

In hopes that some wait staff would soon be there.

But the wait staff were nestled all snug in their beds.

While visions of good tips danced out of our heads.

Membership Renewals / New Members: 

to the tune of "Here comes Santa Claus"

It's renewal time

It's renewal time

Sign up and join today

Badger and Dover and all our riders

Want to know your name

Bells are ringing, riders singing

All is merry and bright

Grab your helmet and say I'm ready

`Cause joining this club feels right.

Membership cards: 

All the Who's down in Who-ville liked Dover's sample a lot

They called for a vote and a design we've now got

The next stop of course is to print them all out

But we can't do that until we've finished our stout.

 Treasury report: 

You better watch out, you better not cry

Better not pout, I'm telling you why

The treasurer had our balance tonight

Sherry counted our funds, she counted them twice,

gonna find out if we've been naughty or nice,

Please tell us how good the club's done

We kept down our expenses

by not buying awards

so our good Time Trial riders

were just good for goodness sake

Oh! You better watch out, you know they will cry

But they better not pout, I'm telling you why

We have four hundred thirty five bucks

Now for some real business. Here are a few expenses we may need to budget for this year.

1)     Liability Insurance (roughly $100)

2)     League of American Bicyclist membership is $35

3)     Joining the MO Bike Federation maybe $40

Bike Schedule - Winter Rides - Yahoo & Email:

Frosty bike riders are all jolly happy souls

You know we still ride when it's cold outside

Though the message board's been slow

Frosty bike riders are a fairy tale, they say

We're not made of snow but the children

know that we'll ride in it some days

There must have been some magic in those

old silk tights they found

for when they place them on their legs,

they began to ride around

O, Frosty bike riders

Are as nuts as they can be

Frosty riders say you can laugh and play,

so go out yourself and see

Tappity tap tap,

Clickity click click,

Post your rides here so

Tappity tap tap,

Clickity click click,

Others can join you and go

Keith was talking to Chris Lock and Chris mentioned that Cowtown is planning rides from the QT across from Target on Saturdays at 10AM 

Flyers: 

We wish you would print some flyers

We wish you would print some flyers

Quality two sided color flyers

To be placed in bike shops

Glad tidings we'd bring

To you for the help

Glad tidings for flyers

To be placed in bike shops

Club Logo:  (to the tune of  The First Noel)

The Club Logo, is still under way

We are working our artist to the bone night and day

With our adds, and deletes, another change we won't keep

It's a wonder she hasn't told us to go bleep

Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly

Thank you for drawing those changes so sleek.

PS: Ben will send out the latest version Shelley has worked up.

CLUB SPONSORSHIP: 

I was going to do the 12 sponsors of Christmas, but, we DON'T have 12 sponsors so, you are saved! We're still open for more sponsorship suggestions to add to our current list.

·   Richard is going to talk to Joe (from Cycle City) more about costs for Jerseys and possible sponsoring.

·   Ben to check with The Wheel and a Real Estate company

·   Still open for other members to solicit more potential sponsors.

CLUB Jerseys:  

·        No updates.  (whew)

Constitution & Bylaws: 

Keith is working

pa rum pum pum pum

On some bylaws to read,

pa rum pum pum pum

His finest work he'll bring

pa rum pum pum pum

To lay before the Club

pa rum pum pum pum

rum pum pum pum

rum pum pum pum

So to honor Him

pa rum pum pum pum,

let's have more rum.

Time Trials for next year:  (to the tune of White Christmas)

We're dreaming of next years Time Trials

Unlike like the ones we used to know

We can rest on Mondays

and race on Tuesdays

so fast, we'll make our bikes go

We'll be racing every two weeks

And we'll be riding two full laps

May the gear you take off with be right

And may all our Time Trials be bright

We are planning to hold time trials at the Downtown Airport again in 2007 and it will  be a two lap format this year.  (roughly 7 miles)  We're looking at moving them to Tuesday nights to give us a day to recover after long weekend rides or races, and we're looking at doing them every other week to see if that makes it easier for folks to make it to more races.  Come to the next meeting prepared to discuss options!

We're also looking for ideas on how to streamline the race next season.

Last years method of splitting the group and having two people time everyone else, then letting them do their laps might take too much time with the two lap format.  If you have thoughts on how to improve on that method please let us know.

Current suggestions and thoughts are:

Recruit our non-riding friends or family to be timers.

Switch timers as soon as the first person finishes and can take over, rather than waiting for the entire first group to finish before changing timers.

Get a sponsor to donate a multi thousand dollar chip timing system!!

Upcoming events:

Just hear those bike bells jingling,

ring ting tingling too

January 1st we'll go whether

it's on bikes or a sleigh ride with you,

New Years the snow may be falling

but your friends are calling "Yoo hoo,"

Come on, it's lovely weather

for the first ride together with you.

Giddy yap, Giddy yap, Giddy yap,

Lets play, We'll ride New Years Day

We're riding from the Smithville dam okay!

Giddy yap, Giddy yap, Giddy yap,

It's grand, bring gloves for your hands

We're riding along with a song

and we'll leave around 10 AM

Our cheeks are nice and rosy

A bit cold and frozen maybe

We'll be huddled together

Riding bikes in cold weather you see

Let's take that road before us

and sing a chorus or two

Come on, it's lovely weather

for some Tom and Jerry's with you……

PS:  Distance to be determined by weather and "Wussiness" 

Bring mountain bikes too. If it's really nice the crazier riders might do it in the dirt after running the roadies off into the frozen asphalt, or we may have to ride mountain bike in the snow!

PSS: Don't forget about the Tom and Jerry's afterward! 

OPEN Discussion:

Richard may have a Cervelo Tri bike for sale.

Dec 13th the Wheel is having (oops, had) an open house from 7-9pm. 

Sherry is on course in her proven training plan to prepare for Rock n Roll Marathon.

Steve hadn't run for a week, and hadn't run more than 7 miles as of the last meeting.

Potentially move Club Meeting to Mondays to avoid conflict with TT's.

FIMQ (Foot In Mouth Quote) of the meeting:   "I will finish, and I will beat her" Spoken by: Steve, in regards to the upcoming Rock n Roll Marathon.

What we believe Steve really meant:  Honestly, we have no idea what he was thinking.

Happy Holidays Lakesiders!

God Bless us everyone.


#902 From: "Mike" <department11@...>
Date: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:41 am
Subject: Lakeside Meeting Notes: 12/5/06 ** Tis the season **
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Sorry for the delay, I thought some Christmas themed meeting notes were in order, but it took me a while to convert them.  

 

Lakeside Meeting Notes:   12/5/06

 

President: Keith - Badger

VP: Ben - Dover

Treasurer Sherry - DD

Scribe: Mike - Griz

 

Members Present: Keith, Richard, Sherry, Steve, Greg, Mike, Berna Sue, and Ben.

 

Twas the meeting before Christmas and all through the restaurant.

Bike club members were stirring, for their beer they did want.

Their orders were hanging on their lips with great care.

In hopes that some wait staff would soon be there.

But the wait staff were nestled all snug in their beds.

While visions of good tips danced out of our heads.

 

 

Membership Renewals / New Members: 

to the tune of "Here comes Santa Claus"

 

It's renewal time

It's renewal time

Sign up and join today

Badger and Dover and all our riders

Want to know your name

Bells are ringing, riders singing

All is merry and bright

Grab your helmet and say I'm ready

`Cause joining this club feels right.

 

 

Membership cards: 

 

All the Who's down in Who-ville liked Dover's sample a lot

They called for a vote and a design we've now got

The next stop of course is to print them all out

But we can't do that until we've finished our stout.

 

 

 Treasury report: 

 

You better watch out, you better not cry

Better not pout, I'm telling you why

The treasurer had our balance tonight

Sherry counted our funds, she counted them twice,

gonna find out if we've been naughty or nice,

Please tell us how good the club's done

We kept down our expenses

by not buying awards

so our good Time Trial riders

were just good for goodness sake

Oh! You better watch out, you know they will cry

But they better not pout, I'm telling you why

We have four hundred thirty five bucks

 

Now for some real business. Here are a few expenses we may need to budget for this year.

 

1)     Liability Insurance (roughly $100)

2)     League of American Bicyclist membership is $35

3)     Joining the MO Bike Federation maybe $40

 

 

Bike Schedule - Winter Rides - Yahoo & Email:

 

Frosty bike riders are all jolly happy souls

You know we still ride when it's cold outside

Though the message board's been slow

Frosty bike riders are a fairy tale, they say

We're not made of snow but the children

know that we'll ride in it some days

 

There must have been some magic in those

old silk tights they found

for when they place them on their legs,

they began to ride around

O, Frosty bike riders

Are as nuts as they can be

Frosty riders say you can laugh and play,

so go out yourself and see

 

Tappity tap tap,

Clickity click click,

Post your rides here so

 

 

Tappity tap tap,

Clickity click click,

Others can join you and go

 

Keith was talking to Chris Lock and Chris mentioned that Cowtown is planning rides from the QT across from Target on Saturdays at 10AM 

 

 

Flyers: 

 

We wish you would print some flyers

We wish you would print some flyers

Quality two sided color flyers

To be placed in bike shops

Glad tidings we'd bring

To you for the help

Glad tidings for flyers

To be placed in bike shops

 

 

Club Logo:  (to the tune of  The First Noel)

 

The Club Logo, is still under way

We are working our artist to the bone night and day

With our adds, and deletes, another change we won't keep

It's a wonder she hasn't told us to go bleep

Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly

Thank you for drawing those changes so sleek.

 

PS: Ben will send out the latest version Shelley has worked up.

 

 

CLUB SPONSORSHIP: 

 

I was going to do the 12 sponsors of Christmas, but, we DON'T have 12 sponsors so, you are saved! We're still open for more sponsorship suggestions to add to our current list.

 

·   Richard is going to talk to Joe (from Cycle City) more about costs for Jerseys and possible sponsoring.

·   Ben to check with The Wheel and a Real Estate company

·   Still open for other members to solicit more potential sponsors.

 

 

CLUB Jerseys:  

 

·        No updates.  (whew)

 

 

Constitution & Bylaws: 

 

Keith is working

pa rum pum pum pum

On some bylaws to read,

pa rum pum pum pum

His finest work he'll bring

pa rum pum pum pum

To lay before the Club

pa rum pum pum pum

rum pum pum pum

rum pum pum pum

So to honor Him

pa rum pum pum pum,

let's have more rum.

 

 

Time Trials for next year:  (to the tune of White Christmas)

 

We're dreaming of next years Time Trials

Unlike like the ones we used to know

We can rest on Mondays

and race on Tuesdays

so fast, we'll make our bikes go

 

We'll be racing every two weeks

And we'll be riding two full laps

May the gear you take off with be right

And may all our Time Trials be bright

 

 

We are planning to hold time trials at the Downtown Airport again in 2007 and it will  be a two lap format this year.  (roughly 7 miles)  We're looking at moving them to Tuesday nights to give us a day to recover after long weekend rides or races, and we're looking at doing them every other week to see if that makes it easier for folks to make it to more races.  Come to the next meeting prepared to discuss options!

We're also looking for ideas on how to streamline the race next season.

Last years method of splitting the group and having two people time everyone else, then letting them do their laps might take too much time with the two lap format.  If you have thoughts on how to improve on that method please let us know.

 

Current suggestions and thoughts are:

 

Recruit our non-riding friends or family to be timers.

Switch timers as soon as the first person finishes and can take over, rather than waiting for the entire first group to finish before changing timers.

Get a sponsor to donate a multi thousand dollar chip timing system!!

 

 

Upcoming events:

 

Just hear those bike bells jingling,

ring ting tingling too

January 1st we'll go whether

it's on bikes or a sleigh ride with you,

New Years the snow may be falling

but your friends are calling "Yoo hoo,"

Come on, it's lovely weather

for the first ride together with you.

Giddy yap, Giddy yap, Giddy yap,

Lets play, We'll ride New Years Day

We're riding from the Smithville dam okay!

Giddy yap, Giddy yap, Giddy yap,

It's grand, bring gloves for your hands

We're riding along with a song

and we'll leave around 10 AM

Our cheeks are nice and rosy

A bit cold and frozen maybe

We'll be huddled together

Riding bikes in cold weather you see

Let's take that road before us

and sing a chorus or two

Come on, it's lovely weather

for some Tom and Jerry's with you……

 

PS:  Distance to be determined by weather and "Wussiness" 

 

Bring mountain bikes too. If it's really nice the crazier riders might do it in the dirt after running the roadies off into the frozen asphalt, or we may have to ride mountain bike in the snow!

 

PSS: Don't forget about the Tom and Jerry's afterward! 

 

 

OPEN Discussion:

 

Richard may have a Cervelo Tri bike for sale.

Dec 13th the Wheel is having (oops, had) an open house from 7-9pm. 

Sherry is on course in her proven training plan to prepare for Rock n Roll Marathon.

Steve hadn't run for a week, and hadn't run more than 7 miles as of the last meeting.

Potentially move Club Meeting to Mondays to avoid conflict with TT's.

 

 

FIMQ (Foot In Mouth Quote) of the meeting:   "I will finish, and I will beat her" Spoken by: Steve, in regards to the upcoming Rock n Roll Marathon.

What we believe Steve really meant:  Honestly, we have no idea what he was thinking.

 

Happy Holidays Lakesiders!

God Bless us everyone.


#900 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:20 pm
Subject: RE: Local Town Anti-Cycling Ordinances
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Brent,
First of all, I want to heartily thank you for your action on my behalf,
and the behalf of other cyclists who may happen to be unfortunate enough
to ride through Platte Woods.  However, I feel I must respond to
Assistant Chief Benne's comments and his (flawed) recollection of
events.

Assistant Chief Benne of Platte Woods is in obvious error in his
description of events. This corresponds with his "errors" that there is
no bicycling on any streets in Platte Woods, Parkville, and Weatherby
Lake.  The Weatherby Lake Police sergeant I spoke to even laughed and
asked "who the hell told you that?"  The officer in Parkville told me
there is no such anti-cycling ordinance in that city. Assistant Chief
Benne is obviously only harassing a cyclist for his own amusement and
also seems to have a very active imagination.

In direct response to his comments:

1) There were not "20 cars" backed up behind me.  He pulled me off the
road less than 3 blocks of my entering Platte Woods on Roan Ridge Road,
and there were only a few cars - a maximum of 4 - behind me that were
making their way past me one-by-one with little trouble.  I was riding
as far to the right of the pavement as I could get with my tires on the
edge stripe.  Therefore, I was taking far less room than the law allows
me to take and the cyclist guide recommends.  I should have been farther
to the left and in the traffic lane, if anything.

2) There is NO SHOULDER AT ALL on Roan Ridge Road.  Assistant Chief
Benne also told me that there is no walking allowed on any Platte Woods
roadways.  However, I have eyewitness reports of not only walking on
this very pavement, but also a golf cart being driven on this and other
roads in Platte Woods very often. A member of my bicycle club cycles
this route nearly every day, including passing Platte Woods officers
without incident.

3) I was NOT waving cars by me at that time.  He told me I was "making
people pass me in a no-passing zone and he could ticket all of them".  I
was NOT "MAKING" any driver do anything.  As an "officer of the law", he
was free to write a citation to any driver that passed in a no passing
zone, though I personally would not do so if I was in his position.

4) Roan Ridge Road is under state MoDot jurisdiction, but is not a part
of the interstate highway system. The speed limit on the 2-lane,
residential Roan Ridge Road is 35 mph, so this does not even fit the
definition of an interstate highway.

My other comments on this incident:
- There are no signs indicating that cycling - or any other activity -
is restricted or prohibited on any street in Platte Woods. If there are
such laws, they should be prominently displayed at each and every
entrance to Platte Woods.

- Do they arrest children riding their bicycles or walking in Platte
Woods?

- If there is an ordinance against bicycle riding in Platte Woods, why
has this not been communicated to the owner of the Cycle City, the
bicycle shop located just over the border of Kansas City and Platte
Woods?  When I spoke to the owner of Cycle City immediately after the
incident, he knew of no such law.

- The attitude of Assistant Chief Benne was more reminiscent of a small
town southern sheriff than that of an officer within a major
metropolitan area. I expected him to say: "you in a heapa trouble now,
boy".  There is no doubt in my mind that he will continue to completely
ignore the facts of law as well as the rights of cyclists, despite your
best efforts to explain the true laws regarding cycling.

- If I thought it would be worthwhile, I would file a harassment
complaint against Assistant Chief Benne, but I know that - at best it
would fall on deaf ears and more likely would only cause myself and
other cyclists additional trouble and headaches.

Once again, thank you very much, Brent.  Your efforts are greatly
appreciated.  This is another lesson that some police officers are NOT
looking out for the interests and rights of the average citizen, but
only in exercising their "power" for their own enjoyment.  It is truly a
shame that we cannot trust officers to uphold the law.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Hugh [mailto:brent@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Krupinski, Keith
Subject: RE: Local Town Anti-Cycling Ordinances


Keith,

I finally got to speak with Asst. Chief Benne of Platte Woods a couple
of days ago.  He called to follow up on the letter I sent him quite a
while back.

Here is the gist of what he said:

  * He thinks bicyclists shouldn't ride on Roan Ridge
  * He observed "20 cars" getting backed up behind you
  * You should be riding on the shoulder instead
  * He didn't like the fact that you were waving cars past in a zone
marked "no passing"
  * He checked with MoDOT and some engineer told him the Roan Ridge is
part of the interstate freeway system and therefore no bicycling
allowed.  (Apparently it is within the interstate right-of-way and is
formerly the travel lane of the highway--which is all completely
irrelevant to whether bicyclists are allowed there.)

I talked with him for quite a while and tried to explain a number of
things to him but I am not certain how far they penetrated.  I email
Caryn Giarratano of MoDOT and asked if she would consider sending an
official MoDOT response because someone in MoDOT screwed up and handed
out the wrong information.

http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/chapter2a.htm

I tried to explain that bicyclists can't ride on the gravel shoulder,
that they can't keep riding off the road onto gravel and back again,
that it would be nice to be able to pull over and let backed-up cars
past but you can't really do that unless there is some kind of a wider
paved area, that bicyclists are out riding during rush hour for the same
reason everyone else is, that bicyclists are riding on Roan Ridge
because there is no alternative route, and a few other things.  I don't
know if it made a big impression.

Some relevant information:

  From MoDOT's Bicycling Tips which have been vetted by MoDOT's legal
staff:

"In Missouri, bicycles and motorized bicycles may ride on any street
except travel lanes of interstate highways or where prevented by a local
law."


Missouri statutes:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap304.htm

304.011. 2. No vehicle shall be operated at a speed of less than forty
miles per hour on any highway which is part of the interstate system of
highways, unless:

(1) A slower speed is required for the safe operation of the vehicle
because of weather or other special conditions; or

(2) Agricultural implements, self-propelled hay-hauling equipment,
implements of husbandry and vehicles transporting such vehicles or
equipment may be operated occasionally on interstate highways for short
distances at a speed of less than forty miles per hour if such vehicle
or equipment is operated pursuant to a special permit issued by the
chief engineer of the state department of transportation pursuant to
section 304.200 and the regulations established pursuant to such
section.


Contact info:
Chief Larry Cory
Assistant Chief Michael Joseph Benne
Police Department
City of Platte Woods
6750 NW Tower Dr
Kansas City, MO 64151
741-7973


At 07:31 AM 10/13/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Brent,
Thus far I've talked to Parkville police and Weatherby Lake police. Both
say the Platte Woods officer is wrong as far as their respective cities.
In fact, the Weatherby Lake officer started laughing and asked who in
the heck told me that.  I'll be talking to Platte Woods today and update
you and the group.  I've heard from a current Platte Woods resident that
this is not the first time this officer made up his own laws.

kk

-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Hugh [mailto:brent@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:21 PM
To: Krupinski, Keith
Subject: RE: Local Town Anti-Cycling Ordinances

Keith,

The contact info I came up with is:

Police Station Address:
6750 TOWER DR.
Platte Woods, MO

PLATTE WOODS POLICE DEPT Contacts:
Phone: (816) 741-6688
Fax: (816) 741-4261

Please let me know if you have better.

Thinking a little, this reminds me of an incident several years ago in
Lake Tapawingo, a real small sort of private community out near Blue
Springs.  The mayor threatened some guy that all the roads there were
private and if anyone bicycled there they would just confiscate his
bicycle.  Of course nothing ever happened but the situation was never
resolved, either.

--Brent

At 01:30 PM 10/12/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Brent,
That's the opinion I get from a former Platte Woods resident, too.  This
officer was from the city (or village) of Platte Woods.  They have their
own small police force.

I will also do some checking and we can compare the answers we get.  My
impression is that this was a rogue officer with the opinion that the
only good cyclist is no cyclist, but I didn't think I was in a position
to argue with him without knowing the facts. Thanks.
Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: brent@... [mailto:brent@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:16 PM
To: Krupinski, Keith
Subject: Re: Local Town Anti-Cycling Ordinances

Keith,

I'll do some checking but I think he is making stuff up.

If all those cities had no-bicycling laws I would know about it . . .

What he may be getting mixed up with, is many cities recently have
passed laws banning "pocket bikes"--but those are small motorized
vehicles.

For certain, they cannot just ban bicycles without posting it via signs.
That would be completely unenforceable.

Do you know what city/county or whatever this officer was from?
Sherriff? It may open up a good opportunity to do some education of our
police officers in the area.

--Brent
director@...

Brent,
On Friday October 6th while riding my bicycle I was stopped by a police
officer on Roan Ridge Road in Platte Woods, MO.  While doing his best
Sheriff Buford T. Justice impersonation, he informed me that I was in
violation of a Platte Woods ordinance that prohibited bicycling on the
streets of Platte Woods.  He also told me that there were identical
anti-cycling ordinances in Parkville, Weatherby Lake, and Lake Waukomis.
None of these towns posts any signs regarding any anti-cycling
ordinances on the roads.  He was also extremely rude and condescending,
but that's another matter entirely.

I inquired at Cycle City, a bicycle shop just over the borderline from
Platte Woods, as to whether they had ever heard of such ordinances. They
had not.

I personally have my doubts about the existence of these laws.  The Tour
de Cure ride travels through Parkville and I have often cycled and have
seen many other cyclists (and police officers) in Parkville.

I and others in my club have ridden in Weatherby Lake and been seen by
the Weatherby Lake police without incident.  A member of my cycling club
rides on Roan Ridge Road in Platte Woods nearly every day and has never
been stopped by the police.

Do you know of any such anti-cycling ordinances in the cities?  If these
laws exist, do they arrest children on their bicycles?  Why aren't these
laws posted on the roadways?  How can we work to eliminate these laws?

Thanks you for your help.

Keith Krupinski
President, Lakeside Cycling Club

#893 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 9:45 pm
Subject: RE: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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We are planning to buy insurance for 2007.  That will be our major expense for the year.
 
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:41 PM
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Was anything determined about liability when charging money?  I remember this being brought up about things like the Sucky Century.


From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Krupinski, Keith
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:20 PM
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season

I like the fund raising idea.  I hope that for only a buck or two that non-members don't expect prizes.  Even members shouldn't expect prizes, but I digress.  Two bucks might be good - that would make joining the club for $20 and having a chance at our vast array of prizes a better deal than going to the majority of the TTs as a non-member.
 
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Subject: Re: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season


I think that the 2 week format is a very good idea.  With all of the Tri-geeks we have in the group the Tuesday option is a good idea as well.  This gives the kitchen pass a break for a week and allows mountain biking for the off week in my case.  I like schedule A.  It's going to be as long as bowling season only it will be 2 laps of hell instead of 2 rounds of beer.  

What about the thought of advertising it in the bike shops and charging a $1 or $2 for entry to non-members as a fund raiser for the club?




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With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time begins? I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which schedule is chosen.

---
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From: "Mike" <
department11@yahoo.com>
To:
LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race every other week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates (Columns A-D) Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th. Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night. Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens. Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day. It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg April 10, 2007 April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1 May 1, 2007 TT1 Bike Club Mtg May 8,
2007 TT2 TT1 May 15, 2007 TT2 TT1 06 Season Started May 22,
2007 TT3 TT2 May 28,2007 Memorial Day May 29, 2007 TT3
TT2 June 5, 2007 TT4 TT3 Bike Club Mtg June 12, 2007 TT4 TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5 TT4 June 26, 2007 TT5 TT4 July 3, 2007
TT6 TT5 Bike Club Mtg July 4, 2007 July 4th July 10, 2007
TT6 TT5 July 17, 2007 TT7 TT6 July 24, 2007 TT7 TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8 TT7 August 7, 2007 TT8 TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9 TT8 06 Season Ended August 21, 2007 TT9 TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10 TT9 September 3, 2007 Labor Day
September 4, 2007 TT10 TT9 Bike Club Mtg September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10 September 18, 2007 TT11 TT10 September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11 October 2, 2007 TT12 TT11 Bike Club Mtg October 9, 2007
TT12 October 16, 2007 TT12

Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.


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Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 9:41 pm
Subject: RE: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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Was anything determined about liability when charging money?  I remember this being brought up about things like the Sucky Century.


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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:20 PM
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season

I like the fund raising idea.  I hope that for only a buck or two that non-members don't expect prizes.  Even members shouldn't expect prizes, but I digress.  Two bucks might be good - that would make joining the club for $20 and having a chance at our vast array of prizes a better deal than going to the majority of the TTs as a non-member.
 
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season


I think that the 2 week format is a very good idea.  With all of the Tri-geeks we have in the group the Tuesday option is a good idea as well.  This gives the kitchen pass a break for a week and allows mountain biking for the off week in my case.  I like schedule A.  It's going to be as long as bowling season only it will be 2 laps of hell instead of 2 rounds of beer.  

What about the thought of advertising it in the bike shops and charging a $1 or $2 for entry to non-members as a fund raiser for the club?




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With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time begins? I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which schedule is chosen.

---
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From: "Mike" <
department11@yahoo.com>
To:
LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race every other week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates (Columns A-D) Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th. Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night. Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens. Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day. It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg April 10, 2007 April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1 May 1, 2007 TT1 Bike Club Mtg May 8,
2007 TT2 TT1 May 15, 2007 TT2 TT1 06 Season Started May 22,
2007 TT3 TT2 May 28,2007 Memorial Day May 29, 2007 TT3
TT2 June 5, 2007 TT4 TT3 Bike Club Mtg June 12, 2007 TT4 TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5 TT4 June 26, 2007 TT5 TT4 July 3, 2007
TT6 TT5 Bike Club Mtg July 4, 2007 July 4th July 10, 2007
TT6 TT5 July 17, 2007 TT7 TT6 July 24, 2007 TT7 TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8 TT7 August 7, 2007 TT8 TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9 TT8 06 Season Ended August 21, 2007 TT9 TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10 TT9 September 3, 2007 Labor Day
September 4, 2007 TT10 TT9 Bike Club Mtg September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10 September 18, 2007 TT11 TT10 September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11 October 2, 2007 TT12 TT11 Bike Club Mtg October 9, 2007
TT12 October 16, 2007 TT12

Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.


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#891 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 9:20 pm
Subject: RE: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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I like the fund raising idea.  I hope that for only a buck or two that non-members don't expect prizes.  Even members shouldn't expect prizes, but I digress.  Two bucks might be good - that would make joining the club for $20 and having a chance at our vast array of prizes a better deal than going to the majority of the TTs as a non-member.
 
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season


I think that the 2 week format is a very good idea.  With all of the Tri-geeks we have in the group the Tuesday option is a good idea as well.  This gives the kitchen pass a break for a week and allows mountain biking for the off week in my case.  I like schedule A.  It's going to be as long as bowling season only it will be 2 laps of hell instead of 2 rounds of beer.  

What about the thought of advertising it in the bike shops and charging a $1 or $2 for entry to non-members as a fund raiser for the club?




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With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time begins? I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which schedule is chosen.

---
department11@yahoo.com wrote:

From: "Mike" <
department11@yahoo.com>
To:
LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race every other week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates (Columns A-D) Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th. Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night. Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens. Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day. It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg April 10, 2007 April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1 May 1, 2007 TT1 Bike Club Mtg May 8,
2007 TT2 TT1 May 15, 2007 TT2 TT1 06 Season Started May 22,
2007 TT3 TT2 May 28,2007 Memorial Day May 29, 2007 TT3
TT2 June 5, 2007 TT4 TT3 Bike Club Mtg June 12, 2007 TT4 TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5 TT4 June 26, 2007 TT5 TT4 July 3, 2007
TT6 TT5 Bike Club Mtg July 4, 2007 July 4th July 10, 2007
TT6 TT5 July 17, 2007 TT7 TT6 July 24, 2007 TT7 TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8 TT7 August 7, 2007 TT8 TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9 TT8 06 Season Ended August 21, 2007 TT9 TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10 TT9 September 3, 2007 Labor Day
September 4, 2007 TT10 TT9 Bike Club Mtg September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10 September 18, 2007 TT11 TT10 September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11 October 2, 2007 TT12 TT11 Bike Club Mtg October 9, 2007
TT12 October 16, 2007 TT12

Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.



#890 From: Ben_Bolin@...
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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I think that the 2 week format is a very good idea.  With all of the Tri-geeks we have in the group the Tuesday option is a good idea as well.  This gives the kitchen pass a break for a week and allows mountain biking for the off week in my case.  I like schedule A.  It's going to be as long as bowling season only it will be 2 laps of hell instead of 2 rounds of beer.  

What about the thought of advertising it in the bike shops and charging a $1 or $2 for entry to non-members as a fund raiser for the club?




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With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time begins? I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which schedule is chosen.

---
department11@... wrote:

From: "Mike" <
department11@...>
To:
LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race every other week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates (Columns A-D) Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th. Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night. Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens. Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day. It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg April 10, 2007 April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1 May 1, 2007 TT1 Bike Club Mtg May 8,
2007 TT2 TT1 May 15, 2007 TT2 TT1 06 Season Started May 22,
2007 TT3 TT2 May 28,2007 Memorial Day May 29, 2007 TT3
TT2 June 5, 2007 TT4 TT3 Bike Club Mtg June 12, 2007 TT4 TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5 TT4 June 26, 2007 TT5 TT4 July 3, 2007
TT6 TT5 Bike Club Mtg July 4, 2007 July 4th July 10, 2007
TT6 TT5 July 17, 2007 TT7 TT6 July 24, 2007 TT7 TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8 TT7 August 7, 2007 TT8 TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9 TT8 06 Season Ended August 21, 2007 TT9 TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10 TT9 September 3, 2007 Labor Day
September 4, 2007 TT10 TT9 Bike Club Mtg September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10 September 18, 2007 TT11 TT10 September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11 October 2, 2007 TT12 TT11 Bike Club Mtg October 9, 2007
TT12 October 16, 2007 TT12

Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.



#889 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 8:58 pm
Subject: RE: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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In 2007 daylight time is longer than before.  It's a couple weeks longer at each end, so we should be good with any of these schedules as far as daylight time is concerned, though we may catch some twilight at the start or finish weeks with the earliest and latest schedules.  My preference is the A schedule to get the season started earlier and end before the gales of October and the hurricane west wind blow us off the road.  At least the gales of April tend to be from the south and feels better after the winter.  As an alternative, there is no magic about a 12-TT season.  We could shorten it to 10.  Twelve TTs allows for some catch-up for those who miss several weeks, which could be good.  With that in mind, should we look at reinstating the old limitation of 10 TTs per rider?  In 2006 we had no limit so we could encourage more participation.  That worked well for me!!!  Just some things to think about for discussion next meeting.
 
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:28 PM
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season

With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time begins? I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which schedule is chosen.

--- department11@yahoo.com wrote:

From: "Mike" <department11@yahoo.com>
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race every other week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates (Columns A-D) Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th. Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night. Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens. Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day. It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg April 10, 2007 April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1 May 1, 2007 TT1 Bike Club Mtg May 8,
2007 TT2 TT1 May 15, 2007 TT2 TT1 06 Season Started May 22,
2007 TT3 TT2 May 28,2007 Memorial Day May 29, 2007 TT3
TT2 June 5, 2007 TT4 TT3 Bike Club Mtg June 12, 2007 TT4 TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5 TT4 June 26, 2007 TT5 TT4 July 3, 2007
TT6 TT5 Bike Club Mtg July 4, 2007 July 4th July 10, 2007
TT6 TT5 July 17, 2007 TT7 TT6 July 24, 2007 TT7 TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8 TT7 August 7, 2007 TT8 TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9 TT8 06 Season Ended August 21, 2007 TT9 TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10 TT9 September 3, 2007 Labor Day
September 4, 2007 TT10 TT9 Bike Club Mtg September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10 September 18, 2007 TT11 TT10 September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11 October 2, 2007 TT12 TT11 Bike Club Mtg October 9, 2007
TT12 October 16, 2007 TT12

Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.


#888 From: "Jim Brown" <jim@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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With respect to Schedules C and D, have you checked when daylight savings time
begins?  I don't think weather would be much of an effect regardless of which
schedule is chosen.

--- department11@... wrote:

From: "Mike" <department11@...>
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:03:57 -0000

It has been proposed that we race  every other  week in 2007.

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another
day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates  (Columns A-D)   Column A
shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th.   Column B, C, and
D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings
would fall on the same night.   Schedules "A" and "C" only have two
nights that happens.  Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has
three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the
same day.   It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different
night.

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next
months meeting prepared to discuss your preference.

A B C D Bike Club Mtg  April 10, 2007            April 17, 2007
April 24, 2007 TT1          May 1, 2007   TT1     Bike Club Mtg  May 8,
2007 TT2   TT1      May 15, 2007   TT2   TT1 06 Season Started  May 22,
2007 TT3   TT2      May 28,2007         Memorial Day  May 29, 2007   TT3
TT2    June 5, 2007 TT4   TT3   Bike Club Mtg  June 12, 2007   TT4   TT3
June 19, 2007 TT5   TT4      June 26, 2007   TT5   TT4    July 3, 2007
TT6   TT5   Bike Club Mtg  July 4, 2007         July 4th  July 10, 2007
TT6   TT5    July 17, 2007 TT7   TT6      July 24, 2007   TT7   TT6
July 31, 2007 TT8   TT7      August 7, 2007   TT8   TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9   TT8   06 Season Ended  August 21, 2007   TT9   TT8
August 28, 2007 TT10   TT9      September 3, 2007         Labor Day
September 4, 2007   TT10   TT9 Bike Club Mtg  September 11, 2007 TT11
TT10      September 18, 2007   TT11   TT10    September 25, 2007 TT12
TT11      October 2, 2007   TT12   TT11 Bike Club Mtg  October 9, 2007
TT12      October 16, 2007       TT12

    Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is
attempting to show.

#887 From: "Mike" <department11@...>
Date: Fri Dec 8, 2006 6:03 pm
Subject: Time Trial Options for 2007 Season
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It has been proposed that we race  every other  week in 2007. 

It's also been proposed to move the races to Tuesdays to give us another day to recuperate after long weekend rides, or weekend races.

The chart below has 4 different starting dates  (Columns A-D)   Column A shows the schedule if the TT's started on April 24th.   Column B, C, and D each start a week after the previous column.

The text is red shows when the Time Trials and the bike club meetings would fall on the same night.   Schedules "A" and "C" only have two nights that happens.  Schedule "B" has 4 nights and Schedule "D" has three nights where the TT's and the meeting would be scheduled for the same day.   It's also been suggested to move the meetings to a different night. 

Take a look at the matrix, see what works for you, and come to next months meeting prepared to discuss your preference. 

A B C D Bike Club Mtg
April 10, 2007          
April 17, 2007          
April 24, 2007 TT1        
May 1, 2007   TT1     Bike Club Mtg
May 8, 2007 TT2   TT1    
May 15, 2007   TT2   TT1 06 Season Started
May 22, 2007 TT3   TT2    
May 28,2007         Memorial Day
May 29, 2007   TT3   TT2  
June 5, 2007 TT4   TT3   Bike Club Mtg
June 12, 2007   TT4   TT3  
June 19, 2007 TT5   TT4    
June 26, 2007   TT5   TT4  
July 3, 2007 TT6   TT5   Bike Club Mtg
July 4, 2007         July 4th
July 10, 2007   TT6   TT5  
July 17, 2007 TT7   TT6    
July 24, 2007   TT7   TT6  
July 31, 2007 TT8   TT7    
August 7, 2007   TT8   TT7 Bike Club Mtg
August 14, 2007 TT9   TT8   06 Season Ended
August 21, 2007   TT9   TT8  
August 28, 2007 TT10   TT9    
September 3, 2007         Labor Day
September 4, 2007   TT10   TT9 Bike Club Mtg
September 11, 2007 TT11   TT10    
September 18, 2007   TT11   TT10  
September 25, 2007 TT12   TT11    
October 2, 2007   TT12   TT11 Bike Club Mtg
October 9, 2007     TT12    
October 16, 2007       TT12  

  Let me know if you have any questions about what this chart is attempting to show.


#880 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Dec 4, 2006 4:56 pm
Subject: LCC December Meeting Extravaganza!!!
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Here's your first official notice of the exciting upcoming
 
Lakeside Cycling Club  December Meeting
Tuesday  December 5th at 7:00 PM
Side Pockets
Hwy. 169 and Englewood Road
 
This month's top ten list: 
Flogging of new officers.
- Further trashing of the old officers.
- Winter ride schedules. 
- Details for the New Years Day Tom-n-Jerry's Time Trial/Ride
     (NOTE: We need a way to keep the T-n-Js HOT - ideas welcome)
- Old Events. 
- New Events.
- Constitution & Bylaws.
- LOGO & JERSEYS.
- Headbanging for ideas for 2007.
and...(my perennial favorite)...SO MUCH MORE!!!
 

#847 From: "Mike" <department11@...>
Date: Thu Nov 9, 2006 6:10 pm
Subject: Club Meeting Minutes from 11/7/2006
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Membership:  It's time to burn off the donuts!  Renew your memberships soon!

Renewal forms are On-Line.  Feel free to print extras for your co-workers, friends, and family. 

Fill them out and turn them in at a future ride or club event.

 

·         Members who renewed at the Monthly Meeting

Our Prez who keeps the show running: Keith aka Badger

Our Treasurer who keeps the treasure chest: Sherry aka DD,

The Secrerary who keeps forgetting to take notes: Mike aka Griz

And the ones who keep drinking beers: (in order of appearance)

Greg aka Moonshine

Richard aka Timex

Steve aka Lamar

·         New Members

Berna Sue aka no nick names that I'm allowed to share

 

Membership cards:  Pending Design, Approval, and what else? Oh yeah, Production.

 

Treasury report:   The Treasurer did not have the current balance with her but she stated that   "No funds have been stolen or lost" thus dispelling rumors from last month's meeting about how Lamar has been financing all his new bikes.  

 

Flyers:  Greg needs more copies to place in the bike shops he frequents.  We keep nailing Ben (Dover) with the printing task. If anyone else has access to a quality color two sided printing device, please let us know so we don't wear Ben out.

 

Bike Schedule and Scheduling Winter Rides:   We discussed what to do about our normally scheduled Saturday morning rides since we never know if it's going to be 50 or 15 at 8am and there is some discrepancy on the definition of "acceptable riding weather."  

 

It was determined that we should utilize this Web Sites Message/Posting to coordinate times and locations. So keep your eye on the weather forecasts and post messages about what time you think will provide the best ride conditions.

 

Club Insurance:  No updates

 

Club Logo:   We have not received any new Logo designs for two months, so we decided to go with one of the designs from Ben's artist co-worker friend.

 

CLUB SPONSORSHIP:   The meeting is currently being held at one of our potential sponsor's locations. They did not forget any food orders for the first time in three meetings! However the service staff was still slower than Griz during hibernation. We're a happy fun loving group, we'll wait for new and slower riders, we'll wait for riders doing roadside repairs, just don't make us wait for drink or food!

 

We are still open for more sponsorship suggestions to add to our current list.

·         Richard is going to ask Joe (from Cycle City) about sponsoring our club.

·         Others were mentioned but I did not get it documented on who was checking with whom.

·         If you think someone might be interested, then get off your tail and ask them!

 

 CLUB Jerseys:  

·         We still need to find out how much it will cost for various size logo's on various locations on the jerseys before next months meeting!  We need this information to help potential sponsors determine what they want to do.

·         Our goal is for each sponsor to at least double the amount it will cost to have their logo added to the jerseys.

·         Badger to follow up with Ben about the Jerseys.

·         Travis mentioned being able to get samples to check out sizes if we give vendors a deposit.

 

Constitution & Bylaws:  Keith brought examples from various other clubs to the meeting. He will whip out something about the bylaws and will send it out for review before next meeting. We may or may not have assigned a sub committee for reviewing them.

 

Time Trials for next year:  Planning to hold them at the Downtown Airport again in 2007.  It will be a two lap format this year.  (roughly 7 miles)

 

We're looking for ideas on how to streamline the race next season. Splitting the group and having two separate races where a couple people volunteer to time and wait till the first group finishes before they get to race will extend the overall length of our races with the two lap format.  If you have thoughts on how to improve on that method please let us know.

 

Current suggestions and thoughts are:

 

Switch timers as soon as the first person finishes and can take over, rather than waiting for the entire first group to finish before changing timers.

Beg some non-riding friends or family to be our timer(s).

Get a sponsor to donate a multi thousand dollar chip timing system!!

 

Time Trials Prizes for this year:

At the very least, we'll have some very nice Certificates of Accomplishment for them at next month meeting.

 

Upcoming events:

Gracemore 5K Nov 11

Jingle Bell run at Zona Rosa Nonv 19

Several members are doing the Turkey Trot 5K on Thanksgiving morning.

New Years day Tom and Jerry's Time Trial.  Location and time TBD next month

 

OPEN Discussion

  • Several members had fun at the Shoal Creek Wilderness Run.  In keeping with tradition, Sherry's race number was 691.
  • Since many of us are active with other sports, we thought it should be okay to add other Running, Swimming, Orienteering, or other similar events or training schedules to the calendar.  
  • If I'm not mistaken, Oct 28th was Greg (Moonshines) 22nd birthday anniversary.  
  • Sherry is following a proven training plan to prepare for Rock n Roll Marathon.
  • Steve is using the R&R training plan to prepare for the R-n-R marathon. 

FIMQ (Foot In Mouth Quote) of the meeting:   "I can go both ways"

  • Spoken by: Richard
  • What we believe Richard really meant:  "I can take it any way I want"

 


#799 From: "Harter, John" <John.HarterJr@...>
Date: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:38 pm
Subject: 15+ miles of mountain bike trail at Shawnee Mission Park?
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Another opportunity to speak up for more multi use trails. I will be out there. There is trail building going on 8:00 to 12:00 out there also. Let me know if you are interested in helping out.

 

Also put on your calendar, trail building day at Smithville trails is on for December 2.

 

The trail building hammer

 

 

The Johnson County Park and Recreation District will be holding a public comment forum on October 21st to solicit input regarding future use of the Oakridge Farm area and Mack House at Shawnee Mission Park. This area is due north of the existing mountain bike trail system. If you have ridden or run off-road at SMP in the past two years I’m sure you are aware of the Phase 1 changes to the existing trail system. We plan to complete Phase 1 by the end of this year and will be looking to get started on Phase 2 very soon afterward. The Phase 2 trail system will be within the aforementioned Oakridge Farm area. I have mapped out Phase 2 with a proposed 10 mile loop and I plan to present this proposal to the County for their approval. If we can get a significant representation of trail users to attend this public input meeting and express their interest in a singletrack trail system I am extremely confident that the proposed trail would be approved.

We have an incredible opportunity here to develop a sizeable trail system in the heart of Johnson County. Even if you don’t live in JoCo, there will be enough trail here to make the drive worthwhile. Please participate in the public input meetings. Don’t leave it to others. Make a day of it, come out and ride or run first then just drop by the park office on your way out.

When/Where
The public input meeting will be held:
Saturday, October 21st at 12:15pm
JCPRD Admin Boardroom (at the Renner entrance to SMP)
7900 Renner Rd.

This is a “social” meeting. You don’t need to stand up in front of a crowd of people to get your point across and there is no official start time. Just swing by between 12:15 and 1pm.

The County has arranged for a hayride tour of the Oakridge Farm area starting from the Mack House. You can join a tour anytime between 10am and noon.

The hayrides will be held:
Saturday, October 21st from 10:00am until noon
at the Mack House

Keywords

It is very important for trail users to accurately convey to the planners the type of trail that they are interested in using. For all they know, mountain bikers want a 12 foot wide chat path on flat terrain, running through a field. I personally, am interested in a trail that meets the following criteria:

  • Singletrack with no more than an 18 inches of compacted tread
  • Built on natural terrain with a natural surface
  • Flows well yet has technical challenges
  • Takes advantage of the topology to create sustained climbs
  • Provides a sense of seclusion and remoteness
  • Is in a heavily wooded area
  • Provides relief from the sun during the hot summer months
  • Has sufficient mileage to keep me occupied for an extended period of time.
  • Is in an location that would be appropriate as a race venue
  • Is a well defined loop with a very limited number of intersections

These are the phrases that I will use to ensure that the land planners have an accurate view of the type of trail that I would like to ride. Please come up with your own list of criteria and be sure to convey them to the planners. Feel free to steal from my list as well.

Follow Up Meetings
Once the land planners have gathered their public input they will spend the following week meeting with a steering committee and formulating a Master Plan for the park. There will be several times during the Master Plan process when the public can make comments on the progress of the park plans. It is important that we have people showing up at these meetings to ensure that the planners are accurately interpreting our interests. These meetings will be on the following dates:


    Wed. Nov. 1st, 4-5pm – Analysis and Park Planning Pin-ups
    Thurs. Nov 2nd
, Evening (anytime after 5pm) – Presentation of design alternatives
    Thurs. Nov. 9th
, Evening (anytime after 5pm) – Public Open House – Preferred Alternatives

Ongoing dicussions regarding the public input can be found here:
http://forums.earthriders.com/viewtopic.php?p=10898#10898

You can view the JCPRD press release regarding the public input here:
http://www.jcprd.com/apps/news/specific_record_info.cfm?id=852

If you have questions or comments please contact me. If you cannot make it to any of the meetings, let me know and I can arrange for you to comment outside the scope of the meetings.

Sean Cairns
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816 536-2647


#797 From: "Harter, John" <John.HarterJr@...>
Date: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:56 pm
Subject: RE: LOSP Mountain biking
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There are two different trails at LOSP. The old ones are the Trail of the four winds (I think) and they are rocky, eroded horse trails that are kind of tough to ride. The others are the brand new (and “officially” not open yet) Honey run trails. The Honey run system is about 12 miles I think and is very fast and flowy with a few longer climbs. It is a trail the the Earthriders have been working on for the past three years. It is suppose to get  a final inspection and open up in the next few weeks if all goes well. This trail system is across the lake on the road to McCubbins Point camp ground. This trail is very fun to ride and I have ridden is a few times after working on it on different occasions. If you want more info or maps let me know .

 

Hammer

 


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Has anyone ever ridden the trails at Lake of the Ozarks State Park, and if so, what are they like?

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#773 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Oct 9, 2006 7:45 pm
Subject: LCC Meeting Notes from 10-3-06
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Hello Lakers.  Another in the endless series of LCC monthly meetings was held on October  3, 2006.  Here's a good share of what we discussed:
  • Notable Items
    • There were no really historic or notable quotes this time. We were all still in awe of the "I can take it any way I want to" line from DD during the last meeting.
    • In keeping with tradition, one food order was forgotten (mine).  I hope this improves for future meetings.
    • Kansas Police were issuing tickets for riding 2-abreast during Octaginta.
    • Since the meeting, cycling Badger was pulled-over by a Platte Woods police officer and informed that bicycles are banned from the roads in Platte Woods, along with Weatherby Lake, Lake Waukomis, and Parkville.  Badger to issue a separate report on this.
  • Treasury
    • The treasurer was absent, but it was assumed that no funds had been stolen, lost, etc.
  • Brochure/Flyer
    • The latest up-to-date version is on the yahoo site and can be printed and distributed by anyone.
    • Flyers were placed at the Wheel and have been getting taken, hopefully by prospective members or riders.
  • Yahoo Site
    • No new sign-ups lately.
    • Fairly quiet as far as messages go in the last few weeks.
    • Keep the chatter going about group rides and alternate ride times, particularly when the weather starts to turn nasty and cold in the mornings.
  • Ride Schedule
    • Wednesday MTB is at 6:00 pm at Smokin Davey Trailhead, not the 7 pm reported last time.
    • Saturday Dam Rides still at 8:00 am until the weather turns bad.
  • Insurance
    • Will pursue a quote later in the year and begin coverage in February.
  • Club Logo
    • Waiting for Chapstick to submit ideas. Dover will follow-up with her.
    • Dover's artist coworker's idea or one of it's derivatives are the front runners right now.
  • Club Sponsorships
    • Side Pockets will sponsor at a rate of $10 per shirt/jersey.
    • Homeward Bound Health Care will definitely sponsor - this is Cricket's wife's business.
    • Latitudes will definitely sponsor - this is Cricket's Caribbean shop in Parkville
      • THANKS FOR THE GENEROUS OFFERS, CRICKET.
    • Platte Valley Bank definitely will NOT sponsor us per Hammer.
    • Shatto Dairy needs to be checked - Nail to follow-up.
    • The Wheel and Carter-Duffy Realty- Dover to check. 
    • Cycle City - Timex to check.
  • Club Jerseys
    • Velo News article identified Hincapie and Louis Garneau as the best large vendors. Other smaller companies also perform this service.
    • It would be preferable if we can get the model name of a jersey from a vendor so we can check fit and construction at a local shop before we purchase them sight unseen.
    • A marketing/logo/shirt provider happened to overhear the club conversation and expressed interest and will contact Badger next week.
    • Need to check on cost per sponsor logo to make certain we are covering the cost of logo plus funding for the club.
    • Need to get more firm pricing of jerseys from vendors.
  • Officer Elections (That's ELECTIONS with an "L")
    • Say hello to V.P. Dover and Secretary Grizz, who were unanimously elected to two year terms by the club members present at the meeting. 
    • No absentee ballots nor nominations were received.
  • Club Party - BBQ - Ride
    • Saturday October 28th
    • The Grizzes's Hacienda (location and directions will be emailed).
    • Optional road ride at 3:00 pm - about 11 miles - party to follow.
    • Optional MTB ride around their pond till you get dizzy - unless you are already dizzy before you start (I know a few of these people).
    • Grills available - bring your own meat to cook (Lamar to bring his wiener).
    • Bring a dish to pass (with food in it).
    • Bring lawn chairs, unless you are one of those dizzy people and prefer to be nearer to ground level.
    • B.Y.O.B.
    • AWARDS PRESENTATION TO THE TIME TRIAL SERIES POINTS CHAMPION !!!
  • Bylaws
    • At the November meeting we will begin discussing club bylaws (which will probably be required when we join LAB and purchase their insurance next year).
    • Badger will borrow some examples of bylaws from other sources to review.
  • Membership Cards
    • We will issue club membership cards starting with the 2007 membership year.
    • Dover to design for review at the next meeting.
  • Upcoming Events
    • Moonshine Parkville ride and Dover's Halloween ride are on hiatus for now.
    • Fall party - see above.
    • BonkFest - Earthriders ride in Arkansas.  Hammer and others are traveling to this ride.
    • Sadler's Indoor Racing - TBD
    • Brigade Football - TBD
Me thinks that's it...other than to say...
  • NEXT MEETING:
    • Tuesday  Nov. 7th - Election Day (with an "L") - 7:00 pm
    • Side Pockets - US 169 & Englewood Road
    • Don't forget to VOTE Early and Often

#761 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:40 pm
Subject: LCC Meeting Notes from September 2006
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The Lakeside Cycling Club September meeting was called to order - or maybe the orders were called - at Side Pockets Restaurant and Billiards on September 5th.  We had a good showing of members.  It could have been the new time, the new location, or the full moon.  Lots of business was discussed - such as the benefits of ordering the Tuesday special of buckets-o-beer.  Other items are below...
  • Notable items:
    • DD declared: "I can take it any way I want to."
  • Treasury: we currently have $354 in the treasury.
  • Brochure/Flyer: Ride times and meeting time & location were updated after the meeting and are on the Yahoo site.
  • Yahoo site: Several new people have signed-on, but not known to anyone present at the meeting.
  • Ride Schedule:
    • Dam rides now start at 8:00 AM Saturdays till the weather forces us to arrange afternoon rides instead.
    • MTB Rides are 7 pm Wednesdays at Smokin Davey Trailhead.
  • Route Maps: It was decided by the group that we don't really need route maps for the Dam Rides.  Most of the members and regular Dam Riders are very familiar with the roads in the Smithville Lake area and are capable of leading or following a route by memory, at least until we get a few more years behind us or a few more beers in us.  Only the Special Rides will have maps drawn for them.
  • Ride Refreshments: Still doing good with donations.
  • Time Trials:
    • BADGER was the 2006 POINTS CHAMPION
    • DD was the 2006 POINTS CHAMPION OF OPPOSITE SEX
    • SOFTIE was the 2006 SPEED CHAMPION
    • We cut the minimum requirement for "MOST IMPROVED" to only 5 trials because there weren't many riders meeting the previous requirement for 8 trials.  No decision on the MOST IMPROVED rider was made at the meeting.
    • NEED PRIZES - especially for BADGER - the 2006 POINTS CHAMPION
    • 2007 Time Trials will be 2 laps at the downtown airport international speedway.
  • Insurance: We will join the League of American Bicyclists and begin the insurance program in February 2007.  We still need a quote.
  • Club Logo: We had a submission from Dover's artist coworker and several follow-ups based on it.  PLEASE ADD YOUR IDEAS TO THE PILE.
  • Club Sponsorship:
    • Side Pockets was offered discount technical "Under Armor" style shirts with their logo and an LCC logo on them.
      • Not too many of us would look good in Under Armor - since the Weasel is not a current member.
    • The club discussed and decided to pursue additional partial sponsorships from local businesses to apply toward nice cycling jerseys.  Need to check on prices and styles.
    • Possible sponsors and those who will inquire: Schatto Dairy and Platte Valley Bank (Hammer), The Wheel (Dover), Side Pockets (Lamar), Cycle City (?).
    • Hammer also thought Platte Valley Bank and Schatto may be interested in sponsoring the Sucky Century.
  • Officer Nominations and Elections:
    • Elections for Vice President and Secretary (2 year terms) will be held at the October meeting.
    • Dover was nominated for Vice President
      • Dover is primarily associated with the Beer Party and has been a leader in many areas this year, so we figured we'd teach him to be so active by Shanghaiing him into an office (not the corner one).
    • Grizz was nominated for Secretary
      • Grizz is one of the most computer-literate in the club (he has his own web site) and actually makes it to darn near every meeting. Even with Grizz's presence at the meeting, we were able to start the railroading process.  His later protest via email only proved how fit he is for this office.
    • Any member up-to-date on club dues may be nominated and elected to office at the October meeting.
    • Only members that are up-to-date on club dues are able to vote.
  • Upcoming Events:
    • Lamar's Weiner (ride) was Saturday 9/9/06. Rain
    • Octaginta
    • Moonshine Parkville Ride - date TBD
    • Dover's Scary Halloween Ride - TBD
    • Fall Party - Grizzs's possibly 10/28.  Need to decide at October meeting.
    • Sadler's Racing Outing - TBD
    • Brigade Football - February or March
    • Bonk Fest - Earthriders MTB ride in Arkansas - Leave KC on Wed. 10/11 thru 10/15
  • NEXT MEETING:  Tuesday October 3rd - 7:00 PM at Side Pockets, US-169 & Englewood Road (600 NW Englewood)

#708 From: "department11" <department11@...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Nominations and Convention
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Deer feela and femala  peedlars,

Its was a grate onher two bee nomiknitted four secretary off yer
bikecyceling klub.  Paleezzzzz bee ushered and to voat fer me ate
next munths meating. Ima surely lokin for word two searvin yuns in
thet they're roll.  Ima not fer sertan watt a secretary is supossed
too due, but I ketch on if given enuf time so I spect I cood did a
purty good job of it with enuf of yun'ses help.  If fer sum rezone
ewe dont so much want fer me too did dat secretariating job, than I
wood knot bee off ended shoud you nominate an voat fer some udder
member frum the groop.   Thanks you veery muchly fer yer kind
considoorasun.   ~ Grizz


--- In LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com, "Krupinski, Keith"
<keith.krupinski@...> wrote:
>
> My Fellow Laksiders:
>
> In advance of the next meeting notice (and the last meeting notes) -
> here is notice of the annual convention and nominations for this
year's
> open offices...
>
> The offices of Vice President and Secretary are open this year and
will
> be voted upon at the October meeting.  During the September
meeting, the
> following club members were nominated for these two offices:
>
> Vice President - from the Liberty Party - Ben (Dover) Bolin
> Secretary - from the Computer-Savvy Party - Mike (Grizz) Casper
>
> Please note that both candidates also have an affiliation with the
Beer
> Party.
>
> ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED VIA LCC EMAIL OR AT THE
> OCTOBER MEETING.
>
> Elections will be held at the OCTOBER LCC Meeting.  Members who have
> paid their 2006 dues are eligible to vote.  NO PHOTO ID REQUIRED
(except
> to enter our meeting establishment, Side Pockets).  Those club
members
> who are unable to vote in person may submit nominations and absentee
> ballots via the group email BEFORE the October 3rd meeting.
>
> LET THE CAMPAIGNING BEGIN !!!
>
> Thanks for your support.
>
> I am the Badger, and I approve this message.
> (Paid for by the Badger for Roadkill Committee)
>

#707 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:24 pm
Subject: Nominations and Convention
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My Fellow Laksiders:
 
In advance of the next meeting notice (and the last meeting notes) - here is notice of the annual convention and nominations for this year's open offices...
 
The offices of Vice President and Secretary are open this year and will be voted upon at the October meeting.  During the September meeting, the following club members were nominated for these two offices:
 
Vice President - from the Liberty Party - Ben (Dover) Bolin
Secretary - from the Computer-Savvy Party - Mike (Grizz) Casper
 
Please note that both candidates also have an affiliation with the Beer Party.
 
ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED VIA LCC EMAIL OR AT THE OCTOBER MEETING.
 
Elections will be held at the OCTOBER LCC Meeting.  Members who have paid their 2006 dues are eligible to vote.  NO PHOTO ID REQUIRED (except to enter our meeting establishment, Side Pockets).  Those club members who are unable to vote in person may submit nominations and absentee ballots via the group email BEFORE the October 3rd meeting.
 
LET THE CAMPAIGNING BEGIN !!!
 
Thanks for your support.
 
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#696 From: Ben_Bolin@...
Date: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:12 pm
Subject: Routeslip.com
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It looks there is a website dedicated to cycling routes.  It has elevation, creates turn slips and the rest of it is just like the GMaps or USAT site.  I've been messing with it and it's pretty slick with a few quirks to figuring out how it all works.

http://www.routeslip.com

#674 From: "Jim Brown" <jim@...>
Date: Thu Sep 7, 2006 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: Club Logo - rough sketch
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Cool.

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Subject: [LakesideCycling] Club Logo - rough sketch
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:34:07 -0500

Here is a rough sketch for a logo design.  Before she does anymore with it
she would like to make sure it is something that everyone likes.  Everyone
please let me know if it is or is not something you like.

Dr. Dover

#664 From: Ben_Bolin@...
Date: Thu Sep 7, 2006 8:34 pm
Subject: Club Logo - rough sketch
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Here is a rough sketch for a logo design.  Before she does anymore with it she would like to make sure it is something that everyone likes.  Everyone please let me know if it is or is not something you like.

Dr. Dover

#647 From: "Ben Bolin" <ebay-aholic@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 11:46 pm
Subject: 2006 Sucky Century Photos
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The 2006 Sucky Century was a great success with 27 riders attending.

The day was perfect and it seemed like everyone had a great time.

I posted photos to the group site.  The new camera didn't focus quite
like I was hoping, but they are still OK photos.

Dr. Dover

#637 From: Ben_Bolin@...
Date: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:08 pm
Subject: 2006 Sucky Turn Map
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GMAP web routes:

Here is the 100 mile route

Here is the metric option
 

Check it out.  I have followed it turn by turn twice and it all seems to make sense.  Let me know if anything needs to be adjusted.

I'll print them Friday when I get back in town.  I'll duplex them so they are on one sheet.

Dover

#616 From: "Ben Bolin" <ebay-aholic@...>
Date: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:23 pm
Subject: Grizz...You are too dam funny!
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Grizz,

Remind me never to let you take photos of any event that I am in.

I love the training wheels on Lamar's bike.  The commentary on each
photo was killing me!

Dover

#583 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:28 pm
Subject: Time Trial Results from 8-14-06
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As you recall...our Time Trial Cliffhanger on August 7th left us with the following questions:
 
1. Can the Badger finish high enough to grab the season title away from Softie?
2. Will Lamar be able to smooth his "wheels" by using a rubbing motion before the next race?
3. Who will triumph when the currently tied Grizz and Lamar duke it out for 3rd place?
4. Can Moonshine keep his single point lead over Dover for 4th?
5. Can Chapstick score 25 more points in one race than DD to claim the women's division?
6. Is Morley Safer?
7. Would Dan Rather?
8. Is Deborah Harry?
9. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
Questions 1 through 5 were answered at the final time trial for 2006 on August 14th.  The rest of them will require some internet research.
 
This trial was two laps of the Wheeler International Speedway, as decided upon in the August LCC meeting.  Moonshine, Unnamed John, Grizz, and Lamar comprised the first group on the road.  Badger was a little late because of an appointment in downtown Mission, KS that lasted till 6:00.  So he deserved, but didn't receive, extra points for getting to the airport before the first group of riders finished their time trials.  In this group, Moonshine blazed a time of 19:43 for two laps in an effort to displace both Grizz and Lamar from their possible podium finishes.  But Grizz with a 20:14 finished ahead of Lamar's 20:29 and locked-up third place for the year.  John put everything he had into his first-ever time trial and finished with a 24:39.
 
Now it was time for DD and Badger to crank it up.  DD had the women's division all sewn up and was pedaling for pride, but Badger had to finish in 5th or better to squeak past Softie for the season points title.  Negative splits served the Badger well, as he cruised to a second place for the night and captured the season points championship. 
 
The category of fastest average speed based on the three fastest trials for the year belongs to Softie, with an average time of 9:00 and speed of 24.33 mph for his three fastest trials.  Note that the final two-lap trial was not included in any seasonal average time nor average speed calculations.
 
The category for most improved is in the hands of the membership.  Be prepared to nominate someone (preferably someone who participated in the time trials) and present your reasoning why they should be named "Most Improved"
 
Everyone liked the two-lap format.  It combined raw speed with a little more endurance and a modicum of pace strategy.  If we hold the trials at the Wheeler International Speedway again next year, two laps should be the distance.
 
This Week's Conditions:
81 F     Sunny     Humidity = 45%     Wind = N9
 
This Week's Results:
1st:  Greg (Moonshine)   L1=9:54    L2=9:49    T=19:43    avg spd = 22.2    points = 10
2nd: Keith (Badger)        L1=10:09   L2=9:46    T=19:55   avg spd = 22.0     points = 9
3rd:  Mike (Grizz)           L1=10:11   L2=10:03  T=20:14   avg spd = 21.6     points = 8
4th:  Steve (Lamar)         L1=10:19   L2=10:10  T=20:29   avg spd = 21.4    points = 7
5th:  Sherry (DD)            L1=??:??   L2=??:??  T=23:26   avg spd = 18.7    points = 6
6th:  John (No Name)      L1=12:15   L2=12:24  T=24:39   avg spd = 17.8    points = 5
 
Final Point Standings for the year:
1st:  Keith (Badger) = 83
2nd: Dan (Softie) = 79
3rd: Mike (Grizz) = 61
4thSteve (Lamar) = 60 
5th:  Greg (Moonshine) = 59
6th:  Ben (Dover) = 48
7th:  Sherry (DD) = 40
8th:  Jim (Yak) = 33
9th:  John (Hammer) = 19
10th: Tiff (Chapstick) = 10
11th: Richard (Timex) = 8
12th: John (No Name) = 8
 

#546 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2006 3:43 pm
Subject: LC2 Meeting Notes from 8-1-06
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Greetings from the Free and Independent State of North of the River.
 
The Lakeside Cycling Club held it's monthly meeting on August 1st and got right down to business - of ordering food and drinks.  We eventually got around to club stuff - and heeeeeeeere it is...
 
  • Membership - We have two new (dues-paid) club members:
    • Jim Berger - also known as "Yak" (for those who haven't heard the story of that name - let's just say is came after a hard mountain bike ride on an unsettled stomach).
    • John Summers  - who will need a name.  John joins us looking for advice and new cycling experiences as he rides into top shape.  He has since ridden with us from the dam on Saturday 8-5.
  • Treasury
    • Current accounting is $334, plus the dues from John.
  • Brochure/Flyer
    • Dover will be adding the disclaimer to the flyer and making more copies to distribute.
  • Yahoo Group Site
    • We have several new people on the site.  One was discovered to be in India and looking for donations.  This person was removed from the group.  Other new people have tended to not include any personal info, so we remain in the dark until or unless they show at rides.
    • Disclaimer has been added to the home page.
    • Time Trial results are in an Excel file in the "files" section.
    • There are a number of new pictures added from several recent races and events.
  • Ride Schedule
    • Briefly discussed the fall time change for the Saturday Dam Ride. 
    • We will discuss and decide at what date to change to 8:00 am during the September meeting.
  • Route Maps
    • The route for (planned) pre-RAGBRAI century was mapped on the geo-pedometer site and reworked with instructions by Nail and Dover.  It's on the group site.
  • Ride Refreshments
    • We continue to do well with donations.
  • Time Trials
    • Only two trials remaining: 8-7 and 8-14.
    • The final time trial will be TWO LAPS with the normal points for placements (not double-points), per the vote of the club members.
    • Review of Prize Categories as decided in the June meeting:
      • Points Champion - Most total points, no limit on participation.
      • Fastest Average Speed of a rider's 3 fastest trials.
      • Most Improved Rider (8-Trial Minimum) based on vote of members.
    • Prizes
      • Need to investigate donations or discounts from LBSs.
      • No actual prizes decided - will see what can be done.
  • Insurance
    • Yak (a legal beagle) advised it would be worthwhile.
    • Need actual quote from the LAB program (Badger)
    • Need info from similar clubs.  Anyone with contacts in other clubs are requested to inquire as to whether they have insurance and the rationale for why or why not.
  • Club Logo
    • Calling all would-be artists - submit your ideas NOW.
  • Club Sponsorship
    • Looking for ideas or contacts.
    • Lamar may have a contact with Side Pockets.
  • Fall Party/Picnic/Awards Ceremony
    • The Grizzes have volunteered their hacienda for this event.
    • More details to be discussed at the September meeting.
  • Officer Elections
    • Nominations will be considered for the offices of Vice President and Secretary, whose terms are up this year.
    • Terms are two-years, but there are no limits on the amount of terms.
    • Vote at the October meeting(?) - so, to avoid being railroaded or Shanghaied, you better be there!
  • Upcoming Club Events
    • Sucky Century
      • Need details of route, time, etc.
      • Will need to create flyer for distribution with all info VERY SOON (Dover volunteered, but he needs the info).
    • Lamar's Wiener Ride and Roast
      • Lamar wasn't present, so this remains an open item.
    • Moonshine's Parkville Ride
      • Moonshine suggested a reschedule of the (mostly) rained-out Parkville ride from last July 4th.
      • Open item to be discussed and scheduled.  Possibility of combining this and the Wiener Roast?
  • Other Local Events
  • Other Discussion Items
    • Last month Lamar asked whether there is interest in club members purchasing Brigade Football Tickets ($72 per season) and tailgating before games.
    • Last Month Badger suggested a club outing to Sadler's Indoor Racing - an indoor high-powered go-kart track
T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-hat's all folks.
Dishing-Up-The-Dirt Badger

    #526 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
    Date: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:26 pm
    Subject: August Meeting Call to Order (Pizza)
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    Once again, it's time to call the meeting to order pizza (or whatever you'd like off the menu).  Tuesday is the day for the popular
     
    LAKESIDE CYCLING CLUB AUGUST MEETING
    Tuesday August 1st, 6:30 PM
    Smithville Pizza Shoppe - Hwy. 169 & Amory Road
     
    We have bunches-o-exciting things to discuss and opportunities galore!  Here's a sample:
    • Pizza, beer, side salads, and cheese bread
    • New logo
    • Club sponsorship
    • Time Trials and prizes
    • Club Insurance
    • Preview of the annual draft of officers
    • Discuss writing a constitution and bylaws
    • Sucky Century Ride schedule, food, etc.
    • Group events at Brigade games and Sadlers Racing
    • Fall (down) party or picnic
    • Lamar's Wiener (ride)
    • and my personal favorite:  SO MUCH MORE!!!
     

    #519 From: "yearslyone" <yearslyone@...>
    Date: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:50 pm
    Subject: TT results for 7/24
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    Here you go!
    Softie 9.05
    Yak 9.23
    Moonshine 9.34
    Lamar 9.48
    Mike 9.51
    DD 11.07
    
    Hey I could have done better but Lamar won't let me use
    his new time trial bike!
    Whats up with that?
    DD

    #516 From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...>
    Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:29 pm
    Subject: Time Trial Results from 7-17-06
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    Hello, Lakers.
    It was a tad warm for the time trial this Monday.  Even Travis should agree that 104 with a heat index of 120 might be enough to have an effect on the bloodstream.  A small group of hearty filleted soles baked out on the pavement.
     
    Lamar showed-up with his new "aerobars" that just happened to come with a free Trek Equinox triathlon bike attached to them.  So now we know - it WAS the bike.  The rider has NOTHING to do with it.
     
    Yak made it for his second trial and officially joined the club.  With that, he is now able to collect TT points towards that all-important Lakeside TT Champion title.  The results from 7-10-06 have been revised to show Yak's placement and points as a club member.
     
    One other point to mention - I misplaced the time sheet for this week, but the results listed here should be accurate within a second and will not affect the placements.  I will fix any discrepancies when I find that piece of paper.  The Excel file is on the group web site.
     
    Here's the conditions this week:
    Temp = 104     Heat Index = 120     Sunny     Humidity = 47%     Wind = S @ 14
     
    And here are the big roasted wieners:
    1st Place:      Jim (Yak)               9:36     avg speed = 22.8    points = 10
    2nd Place:     Steve (Lamar)         9:53     avg speed = 22.2    points = 9
    3rd Place:      Keith (Badger)       10:03    avg speed = 21.8    points = 8 
    4th Place:      Sherry (DD)           11:44    avg speed = 18.7    points = 7
     
    Point Standings for the year:
    1st:  Keith (Badger) = 61
    2nd: Dan (Softie) = 49
    3rd:  Ben (Dover) = 48
    4th:  Steve (Lamar) =  42
    5th:  Mike (Grizz) =  33
    6th: Sherry (DD) = 29
    7th: Greg (Moonshine) = 25
    8th:  Jim (Yak) = 17
    9th:  Tiff (Chapstick) = 10
    10th: John (Hammer) = 10
    11th: Richard (Timex) = 8

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