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RE: [LakesideCycling] Re: Time Trial Routes for 2007

21 is fine with me but who's going to sit around for 1+ hour to time everyone?  Perhaps put a fast rider with a watch first, give him a 5 minute head start and/or let slower riders go next so he won't get caught and then let him finish, jump off his bike, and time everyone else coming in?  Should be fun at least once!
 
-Softie
From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:29 AM
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LakesideCycling] Re: Time Trial Routes for 2007

Back in "the day" we used the 21 as race training. It made a difference come Saturday mornings.

--- department11@yahoo.com wrote:

From: "Mike" <department11@yahoo.com>
To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakesideCycling] Re: Time Trial Routes for 2007
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:18:34 -0000

A 21 Mile TT sounds great to me!

Most Triathlons and Duathlons are 12-15 miles so they'd seem easy
after a 12 weeks of 21's! I also vote we encourage every fast rider
we can find. I say raise the bar, then of course, hit the bar.

--- In LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com, "Harter, John"
<John.HarterJr@...> wrote:
>
> Out and back on Interurban or do a loop with killer climbs on
farmers
> lane, H highway and interurban. Come to p burg and do the pedal
till you
> puke loop, 21 miles, a real TT
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> The night shift Hammer
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> From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Ben_Bolin@...
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:39 AM
> To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Routes for 2007
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> The airport is looking sketchy for this year. Lamar and Grizz rode
it
> yesterday and it has some nasty bumps and asphalt issues apparently.
> Most likely it will not be a good spot this year. It had some rough
> spots last year, but it has deteriorated apparently. Probably
trying to
> keep those darn cyclists and runners from slowing down all of the
> traffic out there. They are such a nuisance!
>
> Grizz was talking about a route off of 92 that we was going to map
out.
> The more options the better.
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> Dover
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> Treichel Donald <donald.treichel@...>
> Sent by: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
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> 03/07/2007 10:12 AM
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> The airport is out for me.........too far from work or home. I
know
> you need to go with location that is best for the majority, but the
> further north you go, the more interested I'd be in participating.
>
>
> Nail...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Krupinski,
Keith
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:02 AM
> To: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LakesideCycling] Time Trial Routes for 2007
>
> To All You Racers:
>
> Concerning the proposal to change TT routes this year, I encourage
> anyone and everyone to try to identify a route or two for
consideration.
> We can arrange email rides to try them out and decide on one at the
> April meeting. I have reservations concerning traffic and turns on
any
> open road course . Riding a time trial would presume not stopping,
> though there are stop signs on most or all of the road courses we
could
> imagine. Cross-traffic is also a concern at all intersections.
These
> are not concerns at the airport, which would be a big advantage of
> staying there. So, I also encourage everyone to remember safety
when
> plotting courses and when the time comes to decide on one.
>
> After having said all that, I have identified several possible
routes.
>
> The first is 5 miles. The traffic is not too bad in the evening
except
> for near the baseball fields on 100th Street, though the speed limit
> there is 25. It has many hills and no real flat sections. The
surfaces
> are in pretty decent shape. I think the parking lot is gravel,
though.
> I've ridden the roads there many times, though not as a time trial
> circuit. I suspect that 5 miles all out around this course would
have
> our tongues dragging on the ground!
>
> - Start at Platte Purchase Park (at about Platte Purchase Road and
104th
> Street)
> - South on Platte Purchase to NW 100th Street
> - West on NW 100th Street to Green Hills Road
> - North on Green Hills Road to NW 108th Street
> - East on NW 108th Street to Platte Purchase Road
> - South on Platte Purchase and return to the park.
> ----------------------
> Here's one with great parking (a school) and a good variety of
hills and
> flats. The road surfaces are good and the traffic is decent for the
> most part. It's only 4 miles, but a hefty climb makes up for the
> shortness. We could always do two laps, if we dare.
>
> - Start at Northview school at NE 92nd Street and Indiana Road
> - West on 92nd to Indiana
> - North on Indiana to 100th Street
> - East on 100th Street to Staley Road
> - Southeast on Staley to Brighton Road
> - South on Brighton to 92nd Street (steep climb)
> - West on 92nd back to the school
> ---------------------
> Here's another shorty (3 miles) in that same neighborhood that would
> require two laps. The roads are good and most are empty. There are
> some good hills in it, too. The intersection of Barry & Brighton
is a
> 4-way stop. Parking is on the street on the old Barry Road bridge
over
> I-435.
>
> - Start at Sam Ray Road and Barry (old Barry Road bridge over I-
435)
> - South on Sam Ray to Barry Road
> - West on Barry to Brighton
> - North on Brighton to 92nd
> - East on 92nd to Sam Ray
> - South on Sam Ray to Barry Road bridge
>
> ------------------------
> The next route is 6 miles. It starts with a flat first mile, a huge
> downhill, a long climb followed by a long drop, and finishes with a
> couple miles of brutal hills. The road surfaces range from very
good
> asphalt to chip and seal, but are OK over all. The most tricky
part of
> the route would be turning right from 144th onto Mt. Olivet. The
only
> parking is on a gravel road (136th west of Virginia) or in Animal's
> driveway. Animal would like this one because it's right outside his
> door. Again, the hills will have you sucking air (or just
sucking)!
>
> - Start at 136th & Virginia
> - North on Virginia to 144th Street
> - East on 144th Street to Mt. Olivet Road
> - South on Mt. Olivet to 136th Street
> - West on 136th to Virginia
> ----------------------
> The next is 6.15 miles long with mostly gradual hills and flats in
> Dover's back yard. There is a rough chip and seal surface for
about 1.5
> miles on 132nd Street, but the rest of the roads are decent.
Parking
> would be on the street in a new subdivision at 120th and Sherman
Road.
>
> - Start at NE 120th and Sherman Road
> - North on Sherman to 132nd Street
> - East on 132nd to Eastern Road
> - South on Eastern to 120th Street
> - West on 120th Street to Sherman Road
> ------------------
> See you out there.
> Badger
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To All You Racers: Concerning the proposal to change TT routes this year, I encourage anyone and everyone to try to identify a route or two for consideration. ...
Krupinski, Keith
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Mar 7, 2007
4:03 pm

The airport is out for me.........too far from work or home. I know you need to go with location that is best for the majority, but the further north you go,...
Treichel Donald
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Mar 7, 2007
4:19 pm

Nail This not related to Time trials but wanted to drop a note about myself, Mike casper and Steve Yeary. As you have probably read we had to pull out of the ...
Richard Holden
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Mar 7, 2007
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The airport is looking sketchy for this year. Lamar and Grizz rode it yesterday and it has some nasty bumps and asphalt issues apparently. Most likely it...
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Mar 7, 2007
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I don't know, Nail. Why would we want to encourage someone that will leave us all in the dust and take the BIG PRIZE? ... From:...
Krupinski, Keith
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Mar 7, 2007
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Out and back on Interurban or do a loop with killer climbs on farmers lane, H highway and interurban. Come to p burg and do the pedal till you puke loop, 21...
Harter, John
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Mar 8, 2007
3:47 am

A 21 Mile TT sounds great to me! Most Triathlons and Duathlons are 12-15 miles so they'd seem easy after a 12 weeks of 21's! I also vote we encourage every...
Mike
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Mar 9, 2007
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I'm getting old...........got no aero bars, don't like time trials.............you've nothing to fear from me.... ... From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com ...
Treichel Donald
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Mar 7, 2007
5:38 pm

I thought about the P-burg 21 mile loop....that would be what? A 34k TT? Just like the pros! And on the last 8 miles you can really rip it. ... From:...
Jim Brown
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Mar 8, 2007
6:32 pm

We could toss the stop watch and use a calendar instead! What's that about getting ripped in the last 8 miles? Are there a lot of bars along the route? ... ...
Krupinski, Keith
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Mar 8, 2007
7:10 pm

I will set up as many Bars as you want, I know a lot of the folks along the way and to set up a bar every few miles would not be a problem. Part of the rules...
Harter, John
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Mar 9, 2007
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Three bars on the route, unfortunately, there all within a hundred yards of each other..... ... From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com ...
Treichel Donald
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Mar 8, 2007
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You know I'm gonna' love that one...... ... From: LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent:...
Treichel Donald
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Mar 8, 2007
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What? You think we carry water in our bottles??? ... From: "Krupinski, Keith" <keith.krupinski@...> To: <LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE:...
Jim Brown
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Mar 8, 2007
10:50 pm

It would make for a very interesting TT. ... From: Treichel Donald <donald.treichel@...> To: "'LakesideCycling@yahoogroups.com'"...
Jim Brown
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Mar 8, 2007
10:52 pm

Back in "the day" we used the 21 as race training. It made a difference come Saturday mornings. ... From: "Mike" <department11@...> To:...
Jim Brown
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Mar 9, 2007
3:28 pm

21 is fine with me but who's going to sit around for 1+ hour to time everyone? Perhaps put a fast rider with a watch first, give him a 5 minute head start...
Murphy,Dan
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Mar 9, 2007
3:35 pm

Getting serious, folks: Me thinks we gotta keep it within the "normal" metro area to attract more riders and also keep it to a length that is easy to time and...
Krupinski, Keith
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Mar 9, 2007
3:36 pm

I think it is a viable option for at least a couple of the events. I think that it would be a good test during the year. I don't see a problem having the...
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Mar 9, 2007
3:41 pm

Those could be "special" events, for my reasons below. If we want to attract as many riders as possible week in and week out, we have to be closer to KC. As...
Krupinski, Keith
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Mar 9, 2007
4:11 pm

Doing the 21 on the "off weeks" might be a good idea. We could also run it like the "pedal til you puke" rides instead of a strict TT format. ... From:...
Jim Brown
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Mar 9, 2007
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