Karen,

Try my knee-high socks. When I run trails in summer, I wear long shorts and
high socks. seems to work for me. Sil
>
>Hello,
>Does anyone out there have a valid preventive measure for poison
>ivy?  By valid, I mean, not what I've learned from the half dozen
>hospitals/pharmacies/doctors offices that I've called or the millions
>of websites I've searched.  These have just let to the responses:
>*you should avoid the woods in the summer
>*we have a soap that you can wash within a half hour of contact
>*there's a pill you can take if you are itching so badly you've
>scratched all of your skin off
>
>for the past 3 summers i have increased the time and frequency spent
>and # of different places visited in the woods....which has resulted
>in 3 months of horrible itching ivy from june-aug.  currently i treat
>as follows - use a "handi-wipe" to clean off legs after run, scrub
>with an anti-poison ivy soap when i get home later, when inevitable
>rash develops in the next 2-3 days, lather legs with Caladryl and
>take 3xs as many showers a day because a.) the weeping stuff oozing
>outta the blisters is disgusting b.) the 3 inches of Caladryl that I
>have caked on my legs by the time i eat lunch each day is icky and
>yucky (-:
>
>this year i thought i'd be finally smart and i called and researched
>as described above for the entire month of April.  i explained what i
>do - spend several hours on Sat and Sun and Thurs running through the
>woods with usually an hour drive home afterwards.  I've asked if
>there is any kind of pill, shot, lotion, etc that I can take BEFORE
>contact to prevent from getting it (as opposed to something that must
>be taken after the oil is on me or after i'm in tremendous
>discomfort).  and i got the responses above.  so since you people
>might actally understand what i'm talking about and know that running
>roads for the next 3 months isn't an option - do you know of anything
>that works?
>
>thanks - happy running!!!!!!!!
>karen s.
>




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Baby Buzz running through the woods in her knee socks. I'm not sure where to
go with this one. (-:
     El Buzz

I will be running the Twin Cities Marathon Sept. 29th. I plan on
starting a structured training program in late June, if any body
doing a Fall marathon is interested in group long runs and track work
please e-mail me. I also have several training guides for anything
from a first marathon to running sub 3 hrs. If there is enough
interest I would be willing to organize and help direct a clinic type
three month program for a Fall marathon. If this thing flys we will
hold a pre program meeting sometime in late June to get things
started. We would probably schedule one long group run once a week
for July then start doing some track work as a group in August. This
will be a very flexible program. It's just fun to share the hard
workouts with fellow runners plus the knowledge exchange within the
group should be helpful to all involved.

Evan....Feel free to post this on the website

Harry Smith

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6/3/02 WEEKEND Congrats to all Red Rose Run-ers.  The LRRC member
participant list is lengthy, long and has a few award winners.  and
yesterday’s local paper has the entire list – 13-1400 strong, clearly
Lancaster’s largest 5 mile race.   Sorry, no weblink to the paper article or
results on Healthguard’s site were found…..  Hint hint hint.

God’s Country Marathon. Tom Rineer, Greg Foster & Peter Belanger all headed
north to run the race of races. Congrats to Peter for finishing his first
ever marathon. Website’s not up yet, maybe sometime
http://www.pavisnet.com/marathon.

WEBSITE Thanks to Megan, Leo, Sil, and Chuck for all the website help.  I
was about lock someone-forever in a room with nothing but Andy Gibb songs
(and posters!) playing louder and louder, but these four individuals saved
the day.  Look for enhanced road & trail sections down the road…

THE WEEK has lots to do-training-run-wise.  Tomorrow is the Middle Creek fun
run, Thursday will be a night spent on the Chiques Rock trails, Friday will
be the Gretna Night run and Sunday will be on the County Park’s trails.

WEEKEND RACES (coming) Satuday’s got the Tel Hai 5 mi & 5K in Honeybrook,
Sunday’s got the Double Trouble 15 & 30K in French Creek.

SMITH'S CHALLENGE is June 16 (Father's Day).  This a perfect way to spend
the day-run the run, have a picnic, go to the pool, while away the day.
Website's (http://www.geocities.com/lrrclub/index.html) got the application
(look in the upper right hand corner!) sign up before June 10 to get the
lower rate.

Doing a fall marathon?  Interested in doing a fall marathon with some
semblance of structure & someone that's certainly been there before?
Interested in having someone be there to ask questions or seek some
guidance?   For a bunch of years, Harry Smith has been THE segway to short &
long distance running for lots of people.  Harry will be working with
interested (fall) marathon runners. Trust me, this is OPPORTUNITY knocking
on the door.   Here’s what he’s got in mind:    “I will be running the Twin
Cities Marathon Sept. 29th. I plan on starting a structured training program
in late June, if any body doing a Fall marathon is interested in group long
runs and track work lease e-mail me. I also have several training guides for
anything from a first marathon to running sub 3 hrs. If there is enough
interest I would be willing to organize and help direct a clinic type three
month program for a Fall marathon. If this thing flys we will hold a pre
program meeting sometime in late June to get things started. We would
probably schedule one long group run once a week for July then start doing
some track work as a group in August. This will be a very flexible program.
It's just fun to share the hard workouts with fellow runners plus the
knowledge exchange within the group should be helpful to all involved.”



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Anyone know any?  An interested email reader with a hurt hamstring
that's running a marathon in 3 weeks in a day wants to know.

Who is going to Laurel this year?

See ya Saturday in lovely Ohiopyle.

Bill

Hi Karen,

I have a "potion" made by the same people who make the too late soap.
It has some sort of wax to block the oils out of your skin.
I haven't used it very often, but you're welcome to try it.
I talked to Tom at God's Country. We're going to ride out together
to Mohican on Friday. Only 2  weeks to go
    ----- Original Message -----
From: "babybuzzus" <karenshiley@...>
To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:36 PM
Subject: [LRRClub] leaves of 3 let it be....leaves of 4 eat some more


> Hello,
> Does anyone out there have a valid preventive measure for poison
> ivy?  By valid, I mean, not what I've learned from the half dozen
> hospitals/pharmacies/doctors offices that I've called or the millions
> of websites I've searched.  These have just let to the responses:
> *you should avoid the woods in the summer
> *we have a soap that you can wash within a half hour of contact
> *there's a pill you can take if you are itching so badly you've
> scratched all of your skin off
>
> for the past 3 summers i have increased the time and frequency spent
> and # of different places visited in the woods....which has resulted
> in 3 months of horrible itching ivy from june-aug.  currently i treat
> as follows - use a "handi-wipe" to clean off legs after run, scrub
> with an anti-poison ivy soap when i get home later, when inevitable
> rash develops in the next 2-3 days, lather legs with Caladryl and
> take 3xs as many showers a day because a.) the weeping stuff oozing
> outta the blisters is disgusting b.) the 3 inches of Caladryl that I
> have caked on my legs by the time i eat lunch each day is icky and
> yucky (-:
>
> this year i thought i'd be finally smart and i called and researched
> as described above for the entire month of April.  i explained what i
> do - spend several hours on Sat and Sun and Thurs running through the
> woods with usually an hour drive home afterwards.  I've asked if
> there is any kind of pill, shot, lotion, etc that I can take BEFORE
> contact to prevent from getting it (as opposed to something that must
> be taken after the oil is on me or after i'm in tremendous
> discomfort).  and i got the responses above.  so since you people
> might actally understand what i'm talking about and know that running
> roads for the next 3 months isn't an option - do you know of anything
> that works?
>
> thanks - happy running!!!!!!!!
> karen s.
>
>
>
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yea, pretty surreal......I had a bad Brady Bunch flashback episode
from that image.
Avalanche
----- Original Message -----
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To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRClub] leaves of 3 let it be....leaves of 4 eat some more


> Baby Buzz running through the woods in her knee socks. I'm not sure where
to
> go with this one. (-:
>     El Buzz
>
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Thanks to everyone for their tips - I'm feeling better from my first batch
of summer poison and will take lots of the advice (no more handi-wipes!) and
yeah, i'd like to try the potion if you've got extra! (it beats knee highs)

Mohican is going to be fun!  8 more days until i leave for pittsburgh and
the pre-race party (-:  See you guys out there!


>From: "jim and darlene cramer" <ratbuzzard@...>
>Reply-To: LRRClub@yahoogroups.com
>To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [LRRClub] leaves of 3 let it be....leaves of 4 eat some more
>Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:38:51 -0400
>
>Hi Karen,
>
>I have a "potion" made by the same people who make the too late soap.
>It has some sort of wax to block the oils out of your skin.
>I haven't used it very often, but you're welcome to try it.
>I talked to Tom at God's Country. We're going to ride out together
>to Mohican on Friday. Only 2  weeks to go
>    ----- Original Message -----
>From: "babybuzzus" <karenshiley@...>
>To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:36 PM
>Subject: [LRRClub] leaves of 3 let it be....leaves of 4 eat some more
>
>
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone out there have a valid preventive measure for poison
> > ivy?  By valid, I mean, not what I've learned from the half dozen
> > hospitals/pharmacies/doctors offices that I've called or the millions
> > of websites I've searched.  These have just let to the responses:
> > *you should avoid the woods in the summer
> > *we have a soap that you can wash within a half hour of contact
> > *there's a pill you can take if you are itching so badly you've
> > scratched all of your skin off
> >
> > for the past 3 summers i have increased the time and frequency spent
> > and # of different places visited in the woods....which has resulted
> > in 3 months of horrible itching ivy from june-aug.  currently i treat
> > as follows - use a "handi-wipe" to clean off legs after run, scrub
> > with an anti-poison ivy soap when i get home later, when inevitable
> > rash develops in the next 2-3 days, lather legs with Caladryl and
> > take 3xs as many showers a day because a.) the weeping stuff oozing
> > outta the blisters is disgusting b.) the 3 inches of Caladryl that I
> > have caked on my legs by the time i eat lunch each day is icky and
> > yucky (-:
> >
> > this year i thought i'd be finally smart and i called and researched
> > as described above for the entire month of April.  i explained what i
> > do - spend several hours on Sat and Sun and Thurs running through the
> > woods with usually an hour drive home afterwards.  I've asked if
> > there is any kind of pill, shot, lotion, etc that I can take BEFORE
> > contact to prevent from getting it (as opposed to something that must
> > be taken after the oil is on me or after i'm in tremendous
> > discomfort).  and i got the responses above.  so since you people
> > might actally understand what i'm talking about and know that running
> > roads for the next 3 months isn't an option - do you know of anything
> > that works?
> >
> > thanks - happy running!!!!!!!!
> > karen s.
> >
> >
> >
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> > LRRClub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> >
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>From: "Marilyn and Bill LaDieu" <mjark@...>
>Reply-To: LRRClub@yahoogroups.com
>To: "LRRC" <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [LRRClub] Laurel Highlands
>Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:21:58 -0400
>
>Who is going to Laurel this year?
>
>See ya Saturday in lovely Ohiopyle.
>
>Bill
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>
> http://www.wvtrailrun.com/
>

(In conjunction with another website related project), I've Added a
few helpful bookmarks - "Local" & "Out of area races" and "trails".
Stuff like Freshburst, Peace Run, Escarpment, Rattlesnake 50K, Mason
Dixon & Contestoga, etc.  Please see and feel free to add.

Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
Country.

Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
and be over it.

Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad bacteria ).
Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
----- Original Message -----
From: carbobob <blong@...>
To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease


> Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
> which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
> Country.
>
> Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> and be over it.
>
>
>
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Sounds good, sign me up Harry.

        Steve Farrah

-----Original Message-----
From: trailbuzzardus [mailto:Trailbuzzard@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:41 PM
To: LRRClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LRRClub] marathon training

I will be running the Twin Cities Marathon Sept. 29th. I plan on
starting a structured training program in late June, if any body
doing a Fall marathon is interested in group long runs and track work
please e-mail me. I also have several training guides for anything
from a first marathon to running sub 3 hrs. If there is enough
interest I would be willing to organize and help direct a clinic type
three month program for a Fall marathon. If this thing flys we will
hold a pre program meeting sometime in late June to get things
started. We would probably schedule one long group run once a week
for July then start doing some track work as a group in August. This
will be a very flexible program. It's just fun to share the hard
workouts with fellow runners plus the knowledge exchange within the
group should be helpful to all involved.

Evan....Feel free to post this on the website

Harry Smith

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Ken/Bob,
     Good thing you mentioned that.  I give my kid yogurt every time he has
been on antibiotics and it really helps to keep the diarrhea under control.
(Just a friendly comment from your favorite family nurse).  PS make sure you
take all your medicine as ordered!
                                     Jim's wife
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@...>
To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRClub] Lyme disease


> Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad bacteria ).
> Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
> Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: carbobob <blong@...>
> To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
> Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease
>
>
> > Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
> > which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
> > Country.
> >
> > Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> > and be over it.
> >
> >
> >
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On the Lyme disease subject, I have a weird red mark on the inside of my thigh,
got it doing the Buzzard loop last weekend.  Doesn't look like a bulls eye, more
just a red spot with a little bite in the middle, but still very much there
today, 6 days later.  Any ideas?




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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

       1. FW: Ratt-lerr
            From: Evan Sandt <esandt@...>
       2. bookmarks
            From: "cigarindian" <cigarindian@...>
       3. Lyme disease
            From: "carbobob" <blong@...>
       4. Re: Lyme disease
            From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@...>
       5. RE: marathon training
            From: "Farrah Stephen (SFES)" <farrahs@...>
       6. Re: Lyme disease
            From: "jim and darlene cramer" <ratbuzzard@...>


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Message: 1
    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:35:06 -0400
    From: Evan Sandt <esandt@...>
Subject: FW: Ratt-lerr



> is alive and well on the w.w.w. link to site (with app) below.
>
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>



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Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:24:59 -0000
    From: "cigarindian" <cigarindian@...>
Subject: bookmarks

(In conjunction with another website related project), I've Added a
few helpful bookmarks - "Local" & "Out of area races" and "trails".
Stuff like Freshburst, Peace Run, Escarpment, Rattlesnake 50K, Mason
Dixon & Contestoga, etc.  Please see and feel free to add.



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Message: 3
    Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:47:53 -0000
    From: "carbobob" <blong@...>
Subject: Lyme disease

Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
Country.

Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
and be over it.



________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:47:14 -0700
    From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@...>
Subject: Re: Lyme disease

Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad bacteria ).
Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
----- Original Message -----
From: carbobob <blong@...>
To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease


> Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
> which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
> Country.
>
> Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> and be over it.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:27:14 -0500
    From: "Farrah Stephen (SFES)" <farrahs@...>
Subject: RE: marathon training

Sounds good, sign me up Harry.

      Steve Farrah

-----Original Message-----
From: trailbuzzardus [mailto:Trailbuzzard@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:41 PM
To: LRRClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LRRClub] marathon training


I will be running the Twin Cities Marathon Sept. 29th. I plan on
starting a structured training program in late June, if any body
doing a Fall marathon is interested in group long runs and track work
please e-mail me. I also have several training guides for anything
from a first marathon to running sub 3 hrs. If there is enough
interest I would be willing to organize and help direct a clinic type
three month program for a Fall marathon. If this thing flys we will
hold a pre program meeting sometime in late June to get things
started. We would probably schedule one long group run once a week
for July then start doing some track work as a group in August. This
will be a very flexible program. It's just fun to share the hard
workouts with fellow runners plus the knowledge exchange within the
group should be helpful to all involved.

Evan....Feel free to post this on the website

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Message: 6
    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:44:12 -0400
    From: "jim and darlene cramer" <ratbuzzard@...>
Subject: Re: Lyme disease

Ken/Bob,
     Good thing you mentioned that.  I give my kid yogurt every time he has
been on antibiotics and it really helps to keep the diarrhea under control.
(Just a friendly comment from your favorite family nurse).  PS make sure you
take all your medicine as ordered!
                                     Jim's wife
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@...>
To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LRRClub] Lyme disease


> Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad bacteria ).
> Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
> Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: carbobob <blong@...>
> To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
> Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease
>
>
> > Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got it,
> > which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
> > Country.
> >
> > Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> > and be over it.
> >
> >
> >
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I'll take a look and let you know!!!



--- In LRRClub@y..., marcia_peters@a... wrote:
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>
> On the Lyme disease subject, I have a weird red mark on the inside
of my thigh,
> got it doing the Buzzard loop last weekend.  Doesn't look like a
bulls eye, more
> just a red spot with a little bite in the middle, but still very
much there
> today, 6 days later.  Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
> LRRClub@y... on 06/06/2002 04:10:05 AM
>
> Please respond to LRRClub@y...
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>       1. FW: Ratt-lerr
>            From: Evan Sandt <esandt@e...>
>       2. bookmarks
>            From: "cigarindian" <cigarindian@y...>
>       3. Lyme disease
>            From: "carbobob" <blong@f...>
>       4. Re: Lyme disease
>            From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@w...>
>       5. RE: marathon training
>            From: "Farrah Stephen (SFES)" <farrahs@t...>
>       6. Re: Lyme disease
>            From: "jim and darlene cramer" <ratbuzzard@p...>
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>    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:35:06 -0400
>    From: Evan Sandt <esandt@e...>
> Subject: FW: Ratt-lerr
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> > is alive and well on the w.w.w. link to site (with app) below.
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> > http://www.wvtrailrun.com/
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:24:59 -0000
>    From: "cigarindian" <cigarindian@y...>
> Subject: bookmarks
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> (In conjunction with another website related project), I've Added a
> few helpful bookmarks - "Local" & "Out of area races" and "trails".
> Stuff like Freshburst, Peace Run, Escarpment, Rattlesnake 50K, Mason
> Dixon & Contestoga, etc.  Please see and feel free to add.
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:47:53 -0000
>    From: "carbobob" <blong@f...>
> Subject: Lyme disease
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> Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got
it,
> which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and God's
> Country.
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> Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> and be over it.
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:47:14 -0700
>    From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@w...>
> Subject: Re: Lyme disease
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> Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad bacteria ).
> Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
> Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: carbobob <blong@f...>
> To: <LRRClub@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
> Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease
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> > Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've got
it,
> > which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and
God's
> > Country.
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> > Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30 days
> > and be over it.
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> Message: 5
>    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:27:14 -0500
>    From: "Farrah Stephen (SFES)" <farrahs@t...>
> Subject: RE: marathon training
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> Sounds good, sign me up Harry.
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>      Steve Farrah
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trailbuzzardus [mailto:Trailbuzzard@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:41 PM
> To: LRRClub@y...
> Subject: [LRRClub] marathon training
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> I will be running the Twin Cities Marathon Sept. 29th. I plan on
> starting a structured training program in late June, if any body
> doing a Fall marathon is interested in group long runs and track
work
> please e-mail me. I also have several training guides for anything
> from a first marathon to running sub 3 hrs. If there is enough
> interest I would be willing to organize and help direct a clinic
type
> three month program for a Fall marathon. If this thing flys we will
> hold a pre program meeting sometime in late June to get things
> started. We would probably schedule one long group run once a week
> for July then start doing some track work as a group in August. This
> will be a very flexible program. It's just fun to share the hard
> workouts with fellow runners plus the knowledge exchange within the
> group should be helpful to all involved.
>
> Evan....Feel free to post this on the website
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> Harry Smith
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> Message: 6
>    Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:44:12 -0400
>    From: "jim and darlene cramer" <ratbuzzard@p...>
> Subject: Re: Lyme disease
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> Ken/Bob,
>     Good thing you mentioned that.  I give my kid yogurt every time
he has
> been on antibiotics and it really helps to keep the diarrhea under
control.
> (Just a friendly comment from your favorite family nurse).  PS make
sure you
> take all your medicine as ordered!
>                                     Jim's wife
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Brown" <dudeage@w...>
> To: <LRRClub@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [LRRClub] Lyme disease
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>
> > Only thing I know is antibiotics kill all ( good and bad
bacteria ).
> > Get some acidophilus for your intestines.
> > Ken ( 41 events so far in 2002 ). Brown
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: carbobob <blong@f...>
> > To: <LRRClub@y...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:47 AM
> > Subject: [LRRClub] Lyme disease
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> > > Anybody have any experiece with Lyme disease? Looks like I've
got it,
> > > which might explain my lousy performances at Charlie Horse and
God's
> > > Country.
> > >
> > > Help me out with advise, etc. I will be on antibiotics for 30
days
> > > and be over it.
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For anybody interested in the marathon training group, we will hold
our initial training run and meeting on Thursday June 20th. Meet at
6:30 pm at Lancaster County Central Park behind the park office. We
will do a loop of the Smith Challenge course or a road loop option
then have a short meeting afterwards to plan our training schedule.
If you can't make this meeting but are still interested in training
with us, let me know along with your goal for the race and some
personal runnig history. If you're going to do a marathon this fall,
come on out and join us. We will be able to acomodate eveyone form
the first timer to the sub 3hr runner. As Andy would say "It'll
be..........fun"
         Harry Smith

Smith's (in Columbia) now has a deck, which opened on Wednesday June
5.    Now after the Run to the River (5/25/02), Race Agains Drugs 5K
(7/27/02) or hearty runs on the Chickies trails or roads leading up
and over the gigantic hill north of town, Smith's Cheesesteaks can be
consumed out in the fresh Columbia air.  The roadhouse table has been
updated.

WEEKEND RACES (coming) Satuday’s got the Tel Hai 5 mi & 5K in Honeybrook.
Head to Honeybrook and experience the fun.

Tonite -  Mt. Gretna Nite Run see gretna by nite, you won't believe what
goes on in the woods.

Ran the great roads of Columbia last eve, right after the storm.  Look no
further for real hill workouts than any road going north of the greater
Columbia metropolitan area.  Roads like River, Kinderhook , Chickies Hill &
Malleable Rds all present excellent big hill training opportunities. And oh
BTW, Smith's now has a deck.

FUN RUNS Fun Runs at People's Houses-next Tuesday.      Please realize that
the 'host' puts in a whole lotta time and effort in order to put these
things together. Please be courteous.  Next Tuesday's run will be held at
the home of Lynn Morrow, in Millersville.  Run the old VFW course + 2 miles.
   See the tank, see the creek (don't miss the neat house next to the bridge
& creek), run the 2 hills, marvel at the huge houses and guess how many
bathrooms they've got.   Check out the little pond with the waterfall and
the gigantic tree. say hi & thanks to Lynn.

SUNDAY - PARK RUN




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Harry,
      Do you have any type of training plan for someone
as injury prone as me?  I've got that feeling that
once I start picking up the mileage, I'll start
feeling the pain.

                   Mike "Over Pronater" Braun


--- trailbuzzardus <Trailbuzzard@...> wrote:
> For anybody interested in the marathon training
> group, we will hold
> our initial training run and meeting on Thursday
> June 20th. Meet at
> 6:30 pm at Lancaster County Central Park behind the
> park office. We
> will do a loop of the Smith Challenge course or a
> road loop option
> then have a short meeting afterwards to plan our
> training schedule.
> If you can't make this meeting but are still
> interested in training
> with us, let me know along with your goal for the
> race and some
> personal runnig history. If you're going to do a
> marathon this fall,
> come on out and join us. We will be able to
> acomodate eveyone form
> the first timer to the sub 3hr runner. As Andy would
> say "It'll
> be..........fun"
>         Harry Smith
>
>
>
>


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We can probably  get you ready on 35 to 40 miles a week

Sounds like that old snaggle-toothed slackerboy has developed an
overbite. Life IS good. Back to you, Bob.

LRRC  mines gold at Tel Hai

At the risk of missing somebody

5K
1st Greg Calluer  15:?

10k
1st overall  Ian Schoutten      27:?

1st female  Vivki Boyer

2nd female 1st master female Mimi Newcomer  33:03

2nd masters  Andy Charles       33:02  yeah that's right, he kicked by Mimi
20 yds from the finish, said he was just trying to break 33 min

1st 50-59  Harry Smith          33:30  he still can't catch Andy even if he
stays away from the beer the night before

2nd 50-59  from parts unknown   Sil Simpson

1st in the "legal division"     Will Campbell

Sorry if I missed anybody

I believe with those times... it was a 5-mile, not 10k ?

Avalanche
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Subject: [LRRClub] Tel Hai


> LRRC  mines gold at Tel Hai
>
> At the risk of missing somebody
>
> 5K
> 1st Greg Calluer  15:?
>
> 10k
> 1st overall  Ian Schoutten      27:?
>
> 1st female  Vivki Boyer
>
> 2nd female 1st master female Mimi Newcomer  33:03
>
> 2nd masters  Andy Charles       33:02  yeah that's right, he kicked by
Mimi
> 20 yds from the finish, said he was just trying to break 33 min
>
> 1st 50-59  Harry Smith          33:30  he still can't catch Andy even if
he
> stays away from the beer the night before
>
> 2nd 50-59  from parts unknown   Sil Simpson
>
> 1st in the "legal division"     Will Campbell
>
> Sorry if I missed anybody
>
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Come on, Jim. You know that we Lancaster people are really fast. You should
see the track workouts we've been doing.
>
>I believe with those times... it was a 5-mile, not 10k ?
>
>Avalanche
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Trailbuzzard@...>
>To: <LRRClub@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:23 AM
>Subject: [LRRClub] Tel Hai
>
>
> > LRRC  mines gold at Tel Hai
> >
> > At the risk of missing somebody
> >
> > 5K
> > 1st Greg Calluer  15:?
> >
> > 10k
> > 1st overall  Ian Schoutten      27:?
> >
> > 1st female  Vivki Boyer
> >
> > 2nd female 1st master female Mimi Newcomer  33:03
> >
> > 2nd masters  Andy Charles       33:02  yeah that's right, he kicked by
>Mimi
> > 20 yds from the finish, said he was just trying to break 33 min
> >
> > 1st 50-59  Harry Smith          33:30  he still can't catch Andy even if
>he
> > stays away from the beer the night before
> >
> > 2nd 50-59  from parts unknown   Sil Simpson
> >
> > 1st in the "legal division"     Will Campbell
> >
> > Sorry if I missed anybody
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > LRRClub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> >
> >
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Weekend Racing - people were out and about.  The Tel Hai 5 m-i experienced
the LRRC Masters Posse of Sil Simpson, Harry Smith, Andy Charles and Will
Campbell each laying claim to some kind of award. Master of being rather
fast-Ian Schoutten took home the overall 5mi win.  Rick's run saw the ever
fast Elam Riehl and Barry Dippner group run well.  Coming weekend: 2 Lan-co
runners - Tom Rineer & Karen Shiley & 2 Leb runners - Dan Petley & Jim
Cramer head to Ohio to run the Mohican 100.  Locally, the  Relay for Life
will be in Millersville.  Though not exactly a race, it is for a good cause.

TUESDAY - Fun Run. Home of Lynn Morrow, Millersville 6:30 PM. Run the old
VFW course, see the then Skinny Minny now Point of View, figure out Funks
and ask how fast homes sell in the boro.  All this and more tomorrow.

THURSDAY 7:30 PM General Meeting/Presentation.  What: Reflexologist Lisa
Leber & Certified Massage Therapist Heather Werner-Forrey will be talk about
reflexes, massages and running and blending the 3 together in a tangled web
of mystical intrigue.  Where: home of Bob Bergman - 412 Hensley St. Lititz
PA.  How to get there: From south of Lititz, 501 North, West on 2nd Street,
Left on Marion, Left on Hensley Street #412. It is on right side of last
duplex on right on (Hensley which is a dead end street).FRI - SAT Relay for
Life Millersville U. Track 6 PM Start
SUNDAY Park

NEXT TUESDAY (Evan/Your Author is out of town Thurs - Mon) Southern End Fun
Run 382 River Road Pequea. 6:30 PM. Come to the beautiful rolling river
hills of southwestern Lancaster County and run the roads or follow Bill
Smith on the trails. Questions? please contact esandt@... or
481-8694 before Thursday. Directions: try www.mapquest.com & enter 382 River
Road, Pequea as the destination.  Remember, Pequea's closer than most villes
'round the county-once out of New Danville, you'll see 1 traffic light and
zeeee-ro minivan or SUV armadas.



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