RWA State Challenge – Saturday 12 July 2008 (or the week before or the week after if needed)
Australian Roadwalking Championships – Sunday 24 August 2008 in Melbourne (venue TBA). It is envisaged at this stage that the Second RWA Carnival will be held concurrently. This was ratified at the RWA General Conference last June and once the details are sorted out with AA, I will advise further.
Kind regards
Tim
-- Tim Erickson
Secretary, Victorian Race Walkers Club
03 9012 5431
0412 257 496
terick@melbpc.org.au
My apologies for the senior moment, but it appears that the Queensland team could include W16 and M16 grades as well.
Cheers
Gary
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It looks as if Queensland Athletics is sending a team to the ANZ Champs.
"Queensland Athletics will be taking a team of athletes to compete at the New Zealand National
Championships from the 28
th to the 30th of March, 2008."
This team will be including M19 and W19 members as well as the senior team. This may be a chance for some of our youngsters to get a chance to have some 'international' experience.
Cheers Gary
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Subject: Porritt Classic 2008; Porritt Stadium Hamilton on 09th February 2008 .... there is a handicapped 3km Race Walk ... awesome, so let's support this event
Hi everyone,
I’m writing well in advance to let you know about the Porritt Classic meeting in Hamilton. This is a well attended and organised meeting which has a ‘handicapped’ Race Walk section. Last year I assisted meeting organiser Brett Addison with the handicapping and was pleased to see that at the finish line Tony Sargisson and Hamish Fowlie were a matter of inches apart as they cross the line virtually together, but with Tony having started off scratch as the back marker.
This year’s event is likely to be more enjoyable and entertaining than last years as we hope that many of the Race Walkers from around New Zealand can attend this event.
Please consider entering and if you do let me know so I can assist Brett with the handicapping and as I don’t have everyone’s email address if you are aware of people who might be interested then please pass a copy of this email onto them
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Christmas Greetings from the Wellington Scottish Athletics Club
We are pleased to let you know that our second Ekiden Relay, just for walkers will be on Sunday 25th May 2008, on the NZIC Circuit at Somme Road, Trentham Upper Hutt..
I hope you can open the attached Word document, which has information about the interesting changes and our plans for next year. If you can not open the attachment please email me and I’ll send you a plain text copy.
If anyone is in Wellington this Saturday evening, the 22nd of December you are more than welcome to take part in our One Mile Sealed Handicap race at 6.35 pm at Newtown park Track. Go to our club web site, see below for our address to get more inofmation. It is a good fun evening, with Father Christmas doing his thing in the Open Mile.
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Subject: RE: [Kiwiwalkers] Fw: New Zealand Secondary Schools.
Paul I can offer to judge if you need me. I’m only a C Grade but have probably judged more track races than most A or B grade judges over the last two years.
I would drive up and back on the day if required.
Regards David Lonsdale
From:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Godbaz Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:48 PM To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Fw: New Zealand Secondary Schools.
WE are still hoping for a couple of volunteers to assist in the judging at this meeting. Paul.
The New Zealand Secondary Schools Athletics Association are holding their 2007 Championships at Wanganui over the weekend of 8-9th December, 2007.
I have been asked to find graded race walk judges to officiate at the Open Girls 2000m and the Open Boys 3000m race walks to be held on the afternoon of Sunday 9th December.
Could anyone willing to assist please let me know, either by email or by phone (06) 357 3787.
Cheers, Paul.
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Paul I can offer to judge if you need me.
I’m only a C Grade but have probably judged more track races than most A
or B grade judges over the last two years.
I would drive up and back on the day if
required.
Regards David Lonsdale
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9:48 PM To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Fw: New
Zealand Secondary Schools.
WE are still hoping for a couple of volunteers to assist in the judging
at this meeting. Paul.
The New Zealand Secondary Schools Athletics Association are
holding their 2007 Championships at Wanganui over the weekend of 8-9th
December, 2007.
I have been asked to find graded race walk judges to officiate at the
Open Girls 2000m and the Open Boys 3000m race walks to be held on the afternoon
of Sunday 9th December.
Could anyone willing to assist please let me know, either by email
or by phone (06) 357 3787.
Cheers, Paul.
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The New Zealand Secondary Schools Athletics Association are holding their 2007 Championships at Wanganui over the weekend of 8-9th December, 2007.
I have been asked to find graded race walk judges to officiate at the Open Girls 2000m and the Open Boys 3000m race walks to be held on the afternoon of Sunday 9th December.
Could anyone willing to assist please let me know, either by email or by phone (06) 357 3787.
The New Zealand Secondary Schools Athletics Association are holding their 2007 Championships at Wanganui over the weekend of 8-9th December, 2007.
I have been asked to find graded race walk judges to officiate at the Open Girls 2000m and the Open Boys 3000m race walks to be held on the afternoon of Sunday 9th December.
Could anyone willing to assist please let me know, either by email or by phone (06) 357 3787.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Auckland Race Walkers Association Revised Programme
> Hi all,
>
> Attached is our updated event programme for the remainder of 2007. We
> have postponed our 1 hour, 2 hour and 20km trackwalks at the Waitakere
> Stadium by one week from 11th to 18th November to avoid clashing with
> the Hamilton Round the Bridges. We have also postponed our AGM by two
> weeks from 2nd to 16th December so that Bob can attend after he returns
> from China. Our proposed 20km Club Challenge on a 1.25km loop at either
> Ngataringa Bay or Freemans Bay will be in mid to late January 2008.
>
> Regards,
>
> ARWA.
> Chris Marks.
>
>
>
Subject: [racewalking] animation of a 6-minute-per-mile racewalker
I thought some of you might be interested in seeing a moving image of the former (as of 29 Sep 2007) world record holder for the 20K racewalk. The animation can be viewed at
The animated sequence of photographs is of Jefferson Perez racewalking in a 10K race at Niagara Falls. The animation has been calibrated to approximate his 10K walking speed of about 6 minutes per mile.
Perez is from Ecuador, won the 20K gold medal at the Atlanta Olympic Games in 1996, and recently held the world record for the 20K racewalk with a time of 1:17:21 (averaging 6:13.4 per mile for the 12.4-mile race). While top racewalkers display a wide variety of walking styles, Perez has a very smooth style that includes very little side-to-side hip motion.
I made the animation (with permission) based on photographs taken by Jeff Salvage and displayed at his Racewalk.com Web site. The photographs were edited to remove background distractions, reverse the direction of walking, and insure proper alignment. Jeff's photographs can be seen at
Sunday October 7, 2007 was the 36th year for the marathon in Portland Oregon. The marathon and marathon 5 miler races started in Portland city center and after winding through Portland finished one block from the start line.
There were over 7800 in the marathon and about 1000 in the 5 miler.
Both the marathon and marathon 5 miler distances include a racewalk division. The many USATF certified judges moved continually through out the course to verify the racewalkers were abiding by the rules of racewalking. The racewalkers that were disqualified were changed from racewalkers to runners with their times listed as a runner.
One of the great things about the Portland marathon is the generally cool weather and that it has only rained once in the last 25 years of the marathon. The temperature at the 7:00 AM start time for the marathon race and the 7:45 AM start time for the 5 miler race was a perfect 53 F ( 12 C ). The sky was mostly over cast throughout the day and the temperature was a high of 65 F ( 18 C ).
Entertaining the competitors this year were 72 musical groups spread along the marathon route. The fast paced rhythms of the musical groups and the spectators along the route encouraged the participants to the finish line.
The successful racewalk finishers with their name, age, home town, and time are:
5 Miler Racewalk Results Men: 1) Robert Frank, 55, Banks OR, 45:54 2) George Opsahl, 65, Lake Oswego OR, 47:36 3) Charles Robeson, 60, Eugene OR, 51:21 4) Doug VerMeer, 53, Portland OR, 53:11 5) Gary Baldwin, 60, Portland OR, 55:18 6) Ron MacPike, 75, Milwaukie OR, 56:37 7) Les Shields, 54, Portland OR, 57:23 8) William Brunner, 63, Olympia WA, 57:35 9) Dick Vaughn, 76, Portland OR, 59:24 10) Nigel Pottle, 56, Vancouver BC Canada, 1:02:52
The racewalkers and the other participants in marathon and 5 miler races appreciate the sponsors and the over 4500 volunteers in the Portland Marathon and 5 Miler. Other information about the Portland Marathon and 5 Miler can be found at http://www.portlandmarathon.org
Any New Zealanders that wish to aspire to selection for the 2008 World Junior Championships may be interested in the following as they may be able to post qualifying times for the Championships at the proposed meeting in Australia.
Please pass this information on to anyone who may be interested and eligible. Paul.
Only athletes born in 1989, 1990 and 1991 can be entered
A maximum of two athletes can be selected in each event
The qualifying standard for the Junior 1000m walks are 44:05 (men) and 49:25 (women). In 2006, the AA standards were 44:05 and 49:15. So they have changed little from last time.
The selection trials will be held at the Australian U20 Championships in Adelaide on 14-16 March 2008.
The winner of the walk trial will be an automatic selection provided the athlete has attained the AA qualifying standard at least once during the AA Qualifying period.
The AA qualifying period extends from 1 July 2007 to 16 March 2008.
There are very few qualifying opportunities on offer at the moment – the only certain opportunity is the Selection Trial itself on 14-16 March in Adelaide. AA has not yet announced whether there will be 10,000m walks on offer in any of the A Series or National Series meets. The document lists lots of qualifying opportunities in section 6(b)(1v) but they are not real – they are not 10000m track walks. That section is rather misleading.
Note section 5(e) which explains that, if an athlete wants to have an event ratified as a qualifying opportunity, discussions must be held with David Gynther, AA Competition Director, to ensure that all necessary criteria are in place. This is what VRWC did recently so that the Victorian 10000m title races could be ratified as selection opportunities. It was not an easy discussion so good luck!
In summary, at the moment, the only gazetted opportunity for qualifying is the trial in Adelaide. There are not currently any other races that have been ratified by AA.
There is the possibility, based on previous years, that the Graham Briggs National Series Meet in Hobart on Fii 18 January may have a 10,000m walk but the timetable for this meet is not yet public so it is an unknown factor.
It is also interesting to note that the qualifying time required for men is more or less the same as the IAAF standard but the qualifying time required for women (49:25) is significantly faster than the IAAF standard which is somewhere near 50:55, if my memory serves me correctly. One could ask why one event in particular is being targetted by AA for special treatment.
Anyway...plenty of food for thought for us here.
Kind Regards
Tim
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Secretary, Victorian Race Walkers Club
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terick@melbpc.org.au
It has been great to see that the group all agree that Walking Relays are fun. That is what they are designed to be.
I did not pick on any one team deliberately but was, as Bart put it, speaking in a philosophical manner. I also worded my original message about teams that REGULARLY enter a "gun" team rather than what I see as a more balanced team. This is why I congratulated Taranaki for their team selection process. It encourages teams to continue entering an event year after year.
I would hate to see quality events like the Marton to Wanganui and the around Taupo declining in numbers because one or two teams are REGULARLY sending virtually unbeatable selections. This should not stop groups from occassionally selecting a special team, just don't do it regularly (every year). We must keep the "FUN" in these events.
I am not saying that you have to be highly placed to be able to enjoy yourself as is established by the fact that I entered a team in last year's Halcombe relay with a six person team that had a combined age of nearly 400 years. We enjoyed ourselves, knowing that we were doing our best and beat teams much younger than us.
Good comments Andrus but I wonder if, indeed Paul’s comments were directed only at the Manawatu Magic Team.
I not see that Paul’s comments are necessarily targeting one team, his comment seem to be philosophical and therefore (to me) do have validity – without malice. I do not see that you need to be at the Relay to have the points of view that he expressed.
The “Magic” have been around a while and we all love to have the “Magic” in this relay (sorry I was not there this year – a family situation got in the way). The “Magic” are a quality Team (“gun”, if you like) but no-one would question the way you put the team together – Club Members and Mates is how I see it – no problems at all. In a Championship Relay (like the Ekiden, in Wellington) then there are strict conditions re membership of Teams. In a ‘fun” event like the Marton/Wangnaui Relay teams can be made up as you like – indeed I have “made up” Teams to participate in myself (not so much a “gun” team, but more of the “pop-gun” type of team).
Looking at the Scottish “A” Team’s results (that I was sent), Paul’s comments would probably be quite applicable to this team (although it was not what you could really call a “gun” Team). Not only did they have a walker do consecutive legs (6 & 7), but Peter Baillie appears to have walked three legs (legs 4,6 &7) - I do not agree with that – it is not the idea of the event. There were at least two other walkers in the Scottish “A” Team that could have done a second leg (instead of Peter doing three legs). Scottish may possibly have had a reason – I do not know as I was not there.
I have no problem with Walkers doing consecutive legs as most teams have walkers doing two legs – what does it matter if they are consecutive or not? But doing three legs (unless as a emergency) is not the idea of the event.
Did the Manawatu Magic have walkers doing more that two legs? If so, both Scottish and they appear to need thinking about what they are doing in this Relay. If the “Magic did not, then there is no problem - as afar as I am concerned good on them for continuing their high standard of performance.
So, although I do not agree with all Paul’s comments in this case, it is quite important that we all keep in mind the “idea” of these type of events and sometimes it does not hurt to be reminded about that.
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On 10/9/07 7:41 PM, "Andrus & Michelle" <leim@...> wrote:
I guess it's prudent or (not prudent) to reply to this from the"gun" team. Not sure Paul if you are referring to Manawatu Magic. But as we have won it 3 years in a row and broken the record 3 years in a row.......Then I guess it's us. Other comments seam to agree that the reference is to us.
Firstly you weren't there. So everything you have heard is second hand. But I would like to add comments to the "not so good" points about relays.
You say relays are brilliant club building experience. All but 2 of us are from the Palmerston North Athletics club. So Yes It is good for our club. Julie, no longer is, as she is now in the Naki. But she is one of the main organisers and the "manager" of our 4 year old team. We have not put together a team to win at any cost. As 4 years ago this team started and has done other relays like Lake Taupo, etc. We have and always do have people of different ability. One funny comment made but one whom shall remain nameless said they were 15 kg's heavier this year. One is fighting a hamstring injury but for dedication to the team still did a leg. Another whom has been sick for a large number of weeks felt very unfit but still gave them a 7k leg. Thus a few being quite unfit. As for Michelle and I we are not training at the mo having just finished National road champs, and need a break.
As for a team destroying the event. This has not happened at Taupo where the Naki teams have dominated it for years until others decided to meet the challenge. This was also the case in this relay. We are the ones who quite surprisingly won 3 years ago. Up until this year it has been quite close with the Naki being within minutes most of the way.
I can say that none of us feel like "guns". And do not want others to feel alienated by us. As we very much love these events and enjoy the camaraderie and jostling we have along the way with our other teams.
I and Michelle feel these relays are where we get to see so many of our friends and have a great time with them as we race them and challenge them throughout the day.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
I guess it's prudent or (not prudent) to reply to this from the"gun" team. Not sure Paul if you are referring to Manawatu Magic. But as we have won it 3 years in a row and broken the record 3 years in a row.......Then I guess it's us. Other comments seam to agree that the reference is to us.
Firstly you weren't there. So everything you have heard is second hand. But I would like to add comments to the "not so good" points about relays.
You say relays are brilliant club building experience. All but 2 of us are from the Palmerston North Athletics club. So Yes It is good for our club. Julie, no longer is, as she is now in the Naki. But she is one of the main organisers and the "manager" of our 4 year old team. We have not put together a team to win at any cost. As 4 years ago this team started and has done other relays like Lake Taupo, etc. We have and always do have people of different ability. One funny comment made but one whom shall remain nameless said they were 15 kg's heavier this year. One is fighting a hamstring injury but for dedication to the team still did a leg. Another whom has been sick for a large number of weeks felt very unfit but still gave them a 7k leg. Thus a few being quite unfit. As for Michelle and I we are not training at the mo having just finished National road champs, and need a break.
As for a team destroying the event. This has not happened at Taupo where the Naki teams have dominated it for years until others decided to meet the challenge. This was also the case in this relay. We are the ones who quite surprisingly won 3 years ago. Up until this year it has been quite close with the Naki being within minutes most of the way.
I can say that none of us feel like "guns". And do not want others to feel alienated by us. As we very much love these events and enjoy the camaraderie and jostling we have along the way with our other teams.
I and Michelle feel these relays are where we get to see so many of our friends and have a great time with them as we race them and challenge them throughout the day.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
It is good to see that there is healthy discussion going on about relay team members walking consecutive stages.
The two reasons why I am against walkers doing consecutive stages are:
1. In a relay there is, or should be, a baton or a touch being passed to another competitor at the end of each stage. This does not occur if competitors are doing consecutive laps.
2. In an event where the organisers provide timekeepers it becomes a logistic nightmare when a competitor does not stop at the end of a stage, made even worse when there are also running teams being timed by the same officials. You have others warming up or standing around as spectators at the end of the stage and the timekeepers have no idea of whom they should be timing. Sometimes the officials have no record that a particular team has finished a particular stage. This is why we sometimes are not able to give stage times. You must keep in mind that most of the events are conducted by running clubs who also accept (they say, put up with) walkers.
Hi Paul, I’m sorry that I missed
seeing you on Saturday. I was obviously too stuffed after my effort of trying
to catch up with our A team on the last lap.
I do not agree with you that teams should
not put people on consecutive laps. Both our club and Taranaki did this as we
were trying to get balanced teams to race against each other within the club.
Unfortunately this year our selection process was astray and we were 20 minutes
apart. In championship events (relays) the rules are specific and clearly
support what you say about no consecutive laps, and I agree with that, but the
Marton to Wanganui relay rules (at least on the entry form) are very few
(minimal in fact) and do not cover this. We have considered putting
in our best team to try and give Manawatu and Taranaki a race as we did in 2004
and 2005, but as our numbers grow we have decided to give everyone a chance to
be together, and as you say be part of the event rather than one team being
hours behind.
A rule in the Marton to Wanganui relay
entry form says that on the instruction of officials teams may be asked to
start a lap before the previous lap has been competed. Times will be adjusted
accordingly.
I have to ask where the officials to do
that were. After the start we did not see another official until the finish. The
time difference between the first and last team was almost three hours. The
last walking team finished about 4.45 pm when the prize giving was scheduled to
start at 4.15 pm. I wonder if it is not time for the faster walkers to be
allowed to start at 8.00 am and avoid the long wait at the finish, if the
Wanganui Harrier Club does not have the officials required to be out on the
course to ask teams to start their next laps early to keep up with the rest of
the field.
The Gun walkers from Manawatu stayed
around for over three hours after finishing for the prize giving, so you could
hardly say they do not want to support the slower walkers. Sadly this
year some of our group had appointments in Wellington in the evening so we had to leave
at 4.30, when the start of the prize giving was still at least 20 minutes away.
We will be back next year, and we may put
all of our good walkers in one team, but that is up to our group to consider.
Unless there is a specific rule from the organisers I can’t see why we
will not continue to put walkers on consecutive laps if it helps us to balance
our teams up. If we had a team as good as Manawatu we’d enter it, and
race them, after all we would like to win!
Regards
David Lonsdale
Wellington Scottish
From:
Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shelley, Andrew Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007
11:21 AM To: Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking
Relays.
I can't see that walking consecutive
stages is necessarily a bad thing. I know that my pace for 5k is faster
than my pace for 10k, which is likewise faster than my pace for 16k or
21k. If I was going to do (say) two 7k stages back-to-back, my time
would definitely be slower than if I had had a chance to rest for an hour or
two between the two stages.
But, alas, I wasn't at the relay at all
this year. Normally I do all the stages consecutively, without a rest,
and my pace for that is definitely slower than my 5k pace! I hope
everyone had an enjoyable time.
Andrew Shelley
From:
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On Behalf Of Paul Godbaz Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007
10:51 a.m. To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking
Relays.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can
be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event
conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made
about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by
combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event
where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim.
Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly
assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little
regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of
a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different
ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes
over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that
members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they
are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second
later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage
by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a
disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no
event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two
stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of
course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that
the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers.
Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread
their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their
club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive
stages. Paul.
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I can't see that walking consecutive stages is necessarily a bad thing. I know that my pace for 5k is faster than my pace for 10k, which is likewise faster than my pace for 16k or 21k. If I was going to do (say) two 7k stages back-to-back, my time would definitely be slower than if I had had a chance to rest for an hour or two between the two stages.
But, alas, I wasn't at the relay at all this year. Normally I do all the stages consecutively, without a rest, and my pace for that is definitely slower than my 5k pace! I hope everyone had an enjoyable time.
Andrew Shelley
From: Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Godbaz Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 10:51 a.m. To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking Relays.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
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Subject: Update: Race Walking; Tony pulled out at 32 kms
Hi everyone,
Well as you will have seen on TV, Tony didn't finish the 50 km event today. He was well placed early on; I received the following txts message from Jonesy (unfortunately I didn't check my phone until late in the afternoon as I was out at the NZ Road Nationals ...
The first txt was at 9:59 just as the race was starting, "I've got coffee in hand, I've moved a kitchen chair into the lounge about 2 metres from the TV (so to avoid any glare) all set. Go Sarg". The second txt reads "He's going well. Got himself into a bunch of 10 or so. 2nd 5k 24:10ish. good man."
As the results show Tony started to move through the field in one direction but then drifted back in the other and then pulled out. But Tony, I am still so very proud of you and when i say that i know everyone else says the same.
Here is the latest from the Athletes and certainly Race Walking journalist buddy Murray McKinnon
Tony Sargisson withdraws from 50km walk at World Champs
Tony Sargisson withdrew at the 32km mark in the 50km road walk at the World Athletic Championships in Osaka this morning.
The Melbourne Commonwealth Games silver medallist was cautious from the start at 7am, with a temperature of 27.5 degrees and humidity of 70 percent, and was in last position at 5km.
By 10km he had improved to 41st, and was up to 38th at 15km.
After receiving a caution Sargisson took a turn for the worse at 18km, he dropped to 46th at 20km and at 25km was back in last position. His pace then dropped considerably, he picked up a further caution, and after passing the 30km mark in 2h 33m 27s, decided to call it a day at the New Zealand drink station.
Sargisson, the New Zealand team captain, said that he just didn't feel right.
"The wheels just started falling off, I started getting cramps in my stomach and I decided to take it easy for 3 or 4 kilometres, just to see how it felt. I took it easy and just never really recovered from it," said Sargisson.
Australian Nathan Deakes, who Sargisson finished second behind at the Games in Melbourne, won in 3h 43m 53s, 29 seconds ahead of Yohan Diniz of France with a further 16 seconds to Alex Schwazer of Italy.
Of the 54 that started only 31 finished. Nine were disqualified and 14did not finish.
There was drama at the finish when Yuki Yamazaki of Japan was inadvertently directed into the Stadium and the finish when he still had 2km to go. He ended up as one of the did not finishers.
OSAKA, Japan — An emotional Nathan Deakes dominated the 50 kilometres race walk on Saturday to add the world title to his glittering list of honours.
The Australian world record holder broke down in tears of joy and relief as he crossed the finish line in three hours 43 minutes and 53 seconds, completing a gruelling race in hot and sunny conditions.
France's Yohan Diniz took silver in 3:44:22 with Italian Alex Schwazer timing 3:44:38 for his second consecutive world bronze medal. Olympic silver medallist Denis Nizhegorodov of Russia finished fourth.
"It's a great feeling, records are to be broken, but nobody can take the world champion title away from you," said an overcome Deakes.
"I will remember forever the feeling when I came into the stadium and it was clear I'm the champion. It was quite emotional. I think it was my 10th 50km, so great jubilation."
Deakes led from 35km to clock his best time this season, although it was outside his 2006 world record of 3:36:04 minutes set in his home city of Geelong, in Australia's Victoria state.
"I had my plan and executed well. I was thinking to go in front a little bit later, but the French guy went so I overtook him at 35km," Deakes said.
"The last five kilometres were very tough, but I was able to manage it. I didn't have any major crisis during the race.
"There's no secret, just hard work and lot of sacrifice. I also have a great team around me."
Diniz, the 2006 European champion, said he would take a long time to recover from the tough event staged at the height of the steamy Japanese summer.
"The race was hard with difficult conditions and the body will need time to recover. I confirmed my previous results. I started cautiously and my strategy paid off," said the Frenchman.
"The gold wasn't out of reach but it wasn't for me today. Nathan Deakes was too strong. I was strong too but not at my top technically."
However, bronze medallist Schwazer regretted his conservative tactics.
"I am very disappointed. Unfortunately my race was not the best one tactically speaking. I started too slow and then I could not catch up with the best," Schwazer said.
"In these conditions, I wanted to be cautious, but now I know that I was too cautious."
The 30-year-old Deakes won both the 20km and 50km walks last year to claim his second Commonwealth double.
He also took 20km bronze at the Athens Olympics, where he was disqualified in the 50km, and is a multiple national champion over both distances.
Deakes was named Australia's male athlete of the year in 2006 after his Commonwealth heroics.
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The course for the NZ Championships is a "Flat" course as viewed from a runner's perspective. In fact from what I can recall the course has a change of elevation (altitude) of about 18 to 20 feet on each half of each lap. That is, 18 to 20 foot rise and 18 to 20 foot drop each lap. The walking surface is relatively smooth, as a runner would say, it is flat.
There were a few DSQ's also but they weren't listed here.
The course will blow away the visitors next week, so be prepared!
EVENT
RACE
GRADE
SURNAME
FIRST
GRADE
CLUB
ACTUAL
DISTANCE
AUCK
NO.
PLACE
PLACE
NAME
TIME
CHAMPS
WALKS
1A
1
1
Sim
David
MM45
NHB
0:55:53
10000m
1ST
1A
2
2
Little
Gary
MM65+
NHB
0:58:19
10000m
2ND
1A
5
1
BARBER
Shirley
MW55+
ACA
1:07:35
10000m
1ST
1A
3
1
Burge
Kevin
SM
GLEN EDEN
0:58:32
10000m
1ST
1A
4
1
GORE
ALANA
SW
HAMILTON HAWKS
1:07:11
10000m
1B
1
1
BRADLEY
Maggie
W16
WAITAKERE
0:30:39
5000m
1ST
1B
3
2
MARTIN
RACHAEL
W16
PAKURANGA
0:33:33
5000m
2ND
1B
2
1
MABBETT
KELLY
W19
HAMILTON HAWKS
0:31:01
5000m
1B
4
2
Drummond
Sarah-Amy
W19
PAKURANGA
0:39:14
5000m
1ST
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There were a few DSQ's also but they weren't listed here.
The course will blow away the visitors next week, so be prepared!
EVENT
RACE
GRADE
SURNAME
FIRST
GRADE
CLUB
ACTUAL
DISTANCE
AUCK
NO.
PLACE
PLACE
NAME
TIME
CHAMPS
WALKS
1A
1
1
Sim
David
MM45
NHB
0:55:53
10000m
1ST
1A
2
2
Little
Gary
MM65+
NHB
0:58:19
10000m
2ND
1A
5
1
BARBER
Shirley
MW55+
ACA
1:07:35
10000m
1ST
1A
3
1
Burge
Kevin
SM
GLEN EDEN
0:58:32
10000m
1ST
1A
4
1
GORE
ALANA
SW
HAMILTON HAWKS
1:07:11
10000m
1B
1
1
BRADLEY
Maggie
W16
WAITAKERE
0:30:39
5000m
1ST
1B
3
2
MARTIN
RACHAEL
W16
PAKURANGA
0:33:33
5000m
2ND
1B
2
1
MABBETT
KELLY
W19
HAMILTON HAWKS
0:31:01
5000m
1B
4
2
Drummond
Sarah-Amy
W19
PAKURANGA
0:39:14
5000m
1ST
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