Good comments Andrus but I wonder if, indeed Paul’s comments were directed only at the Manawatu Magic Team.
I not see that Paul’s comments are necessarily targeting one team, his comment seem to be philosophical and therefore (to me) do have validity – without malice. I do not see that you need to be at the Relay to have the points of view that he expressed.
The “Magic” have been around a while and we all love to have the “Magic” in this relay (sorry I was not there this year – a family situation got in the way). The “Magic” are a quality Team (“gun”, if you like) but no-one would question the way you put the team together – Club Members and Mates is how I see it – no problems at all. In a Championship Relay (like the Ekiden, in Wellington) then there are strict conditions re membership of Teams. In a ‘fun” event like the Marton/Wangnaui Relay teams can be made up as you like – indeed I have “made up” Teams to participate in myself (not so much a “gun” team, but more of the “pop-gun” type of team).
Looking at the Scottish “A” Team’s results (that I was sent), Paul’s comments would probably be quite applicable to this team (although it was not what you could really call a “gun” Team). Not only did they have a walker do consecutive legs (6 & 7), but Peter Baillie appears to have walked three legs (legs 4,6 &7) - I do not agree with that – it is not the idea of the event. There were at least two other walkers in the Scottish “A” Team that could have done a second leg (instead of Peter doing three legs). Scottish may possibly have had a reason – I do not know as I was not there.
I have no problem with Walkers doing consecutive legs as most teams have walkers doing two legs – what does it matter if they are consecutive or not? But doing three legs (unless as a emergency) is not the idea of the event.
Did the Manawatu Magic have walkers doing more that two legs? If so, both Scottish and they appear to need thinking about what they are doing in this Relay. If the “Magic did not, then there is no problem - as afar as I am concerned good on them for continuing their high standard of performance.
So, although I do not agree with all Paul’s comments in this case, it is quite important that we all keep in mind the “idea” of these type of events and sometimes it does not hurt to be reminded about that.
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On 10/9/07 7:41 PM, "Andrus & Michelle" <leim@...> wrote:
I guess it's prudent or (not prudent) to reply to this from the"gun" team. Not sure Paul if you are referring to Manawatu Magic. But as we have won it 3 years in a row and broken the record 3 years in a row.......Then I guess it's us. Other comments seam to agree that the reference is to us.
Firstly you weren't there. So everything you have heard is second hand. But I would like to add comments to the "not so good" points about relays.
You say relays are brilliant club building experience. All but 2 of us are from the Palmerston North Athletics club. So Yes It is good for our club. Julie, no longer is, as she is now in the Naki. But she is one of the main organisers and the "manager" of our 4 year old team. We have not put together a team to win at any cost. As 4 years ago this team started and has done other relays like Lake Taupo, etc. We have and always do have people of different ability. One funny comment made but one whom shall remain nameless said they were 15 kg's heavier this year. One is fighting a hamstring injury but for dedication to the team still did a leg. Another whom has been sick for a large number of weeks felt very unfit but still gave them a 7k leg. Thus a few being quite unfit. As for Michelle and I we are not training at the mo having just finished National road champs, and need a break.
As for a team destroying the event. This has not happened at Taupo where the Naki teams have dominated it for years until others decided to meet the challenge. This was also the case in this relay. We are the ones who quite surprisingly won 3 years ago. Up until this year it has been quite close with the Naki being within minutes most of the way.
I can say that none of us feel like "guns". And do not want others to feel alienated by us. As we very much love these events and enjoy the camaraderie and jostling we have along the way with our other teams.
I and Michelle feel these relays are where we get to see so many of our friends and have a great time with them as we race them and challenge them throughout the day.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
I guess it's prudent or (not prudent) to reply to this from the"gun" team. Not sure Paul if you are referring to Manawatu Magic. But as we have won it 3 years in a row and broken the record 3 years in a row.......Then I guess it's us. Other comments seam to agree that the reference is to us.
Firstly you weren't there. So everything you have heard is second hand. But I would like to add comments to the "not so good" points about relays.
You say relays are brilliant club building experience. All but 2 of us are from the Palmerston North Athletics club. So Yes It is good for our club. Julie, no longer is, as she is now in the Naki. But she is one of the main organisers and the "manager" of our 4 year old team. We have not put together a team to win at any cost. As 4 years ago this team started and has done other relays like Lake Taupo, etc. We have and always do have people of different ability. One funny comment made but one whom shall remain nameless said they were 15 kg's heavier this year. One is fighting a hamstring injury but for dedication to the team still did a leg. Another whom has been sick for a large number of weeks felt very unfit but still gave them a 7k leg. Thus a few being quite unfit. As for Michelle and I we are not training at the mo having just finished National road champs, and need a break.
As for a team destroying the event. This has not happened at Taupo where the Naki teams have dominated it for years until others decided to meet the challenge. This was also the case in this relay. We are the ones who quite surprisingly won 3 years ago. Up until this year it has been quite close with the Naki being within minutes most of the way.
I can say that none of us feel like "guns". And do not want others to feel alienated by us. As we very much love these events and enjoy the camaraderie and jostling we have along the way with our other teams.
I and Michelle feel these relays are where we get to see so many of our friends and have a great time with them as we race them and challenge them throughout the day.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
It is good to see that there is healthy discussion going on about relay team members walking consecutive stages.
The two reasons why I am against walkers doing consecutive stages are:
1. In a relay there is, or should be, a baton or a touch being passed to another competitor at the end of each stage. This does not occur if competitors are doing consecutive laps.
2. In an event where the organisers provide timekeepers it becomes a logistic nightmare when a competitor does not stop at the end of a stage, made even worse when there are also running teams being timed by the same officials. You have others warming up or standing around as spectators at the end of the stage and the timekeepers have no idea of whom they should be timing. Sometimes the officials have no record that a particular team has finished a particular stage. This is why we sometimes are not able to give stage times. You must keep in mind that most of the events are conducted by running clubs who also accept (they say, put up with) walkers.
Hi Paul, I’m sorry that I missed
seeing you on Saturday. I was obviously too stuffed after my effort of trying
to catch up with our A team on the last lap.
I do not agree with you that teams should
not put people on consecutive laps. Both our club and Taranaki did this as we
were trying to get balanced teams to race against each other within the club.
Unfortunately this year our selection process was astray and we were 20 minutes
apart. In championship events (relays) the rules are specific and clearly
support what you say about no consecutive laps, and I agree with that, but the
Marton to Wanganui relay rules (at least on the entry form) are very few
(minimal in fact) and do not cover this. We have considered putting
in our best team to try and give Manawatu and Taranaki a race as we did in 2004
and 2005, but as our numbers grow we have decided to give everyone a chance to
be together, and as you say be part of the event rather than one team being
hours behind.
A rule in the Marton to Wanganui relay
entry form says that on the instruction of officials teams may be asked to
start a lap before the previous lap has been competed. Times will be adjusted
accordingly.
I have to ask where the officials to do
that were. After the start we did not see another official until the finish. The
time difference between the first and last team was almost three hours. The
last walking team finished about 4.45 pm when the prize giving was scheduled to
start at 4.15 pm. I wonder if it is not time for the faster walkers to be
allowed to start at 8.00 am and avoid the long wait at the finish, if the
Wanganui Harrier Club does not have the officials required to be out on the
course to ask teams to start their next laps early to keep up with the rest of
the field.
The Gun walkers from Manawatu stayed
around for over three hours after finishing for the prize giving, so you could
hardly say they do not want to support the slower walkers. Sadly this
year some of our group had appointments in Wellington in the evening so we had to leave
at 4.30, when the start of the prize giving was still at least 20 minutes away.
We will be back next year, and we may put
all of our good walkers in one team, but that is up to our group to consider.
Unless there is a specific rule from the organisers I can’t see why we
will not continue to put walkers on consecutive laps if it helps us to balance
our teams up. If we had a team as good as Manawatu we’d enter it, and
race them, after all we would like to win!
Regards
David Lonsdale
Wellington Scottish
From:
Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shelley, Andrew Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007
11:21 AM To: Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking
Relays.
I can't see that walking consecutive
stages is necessarily a bad thing. I know that my pace for 5k is faster
than my pace for 10k, which is likewise faster than my pace for 16k or
21k. If I was going to do (say) two 7k stages back-to-back, my time
would definitely be slower than if I had had a chance to rest for an hour or
two between the two stages.
But, alas, I wasn't at the relay at all
this year. Normally I do all the stages consecutively, without a rest,
and my pace for that is definitely slower than my 5k pace! I hope
everyone had an enjoyable time.
Andrew Shelley
From:
Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Godbaz Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007
10:51 a.m. To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking
Relays.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can
be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event
conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made
about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by
combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event
where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim.
Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly
assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little
regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of
a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different
ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes
over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that
members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they
are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second
later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage
by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a
disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no
event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two
stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of
course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that
the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers.
Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread
their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their
club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive
stages. Paul.
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I can't see that walking consecutive stages is necessarily a bad thing. I know that my pace for 5k is faster than my pace for 10k, which is likewise faster than my pace for 16k or 21k. If I was going to do (say) two 7k stages back-to-back, my time would definitely be slower than if I had had a chance to rest for an hour or two between the two stages.
But, alas, I wasn't at the relay at all this year. Normally I do all the stages consecutively, without a rest, and my pace for that is definitely slower than my 5k pace! I hope everyone had an enjoyable time.
Andrew Shelley
From: Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kiwiwalkers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Godbaz Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 10:51 a.m. To: Kiwiwalkers Subject: [Kiwiwalkers] Walking Relays.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
This message is not aimed at any particular group and the contents can be freely debated on this group and among yourselves.
After last Saturday's Marton to Wanganui Relay, a top quality event conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club, I have heard a few comments being made about both the good points and the not-so-good points of relays.
The good points include the undeniable benefits bought about by combining team/club members into a group to contest a fairly conducted event where they give their best, regardless of ability, to achieve a joint aim. Relays are a brilliant club-building experience.
The not-so-good points of relays are headed by groups regularly assembling a "gun" team out to win at any cost and having little regard for others of lesser ability. To truly enter into the friendly spirit of a relay teams achieve much more if the team includes some members of different ability. Otherwise the "gun" team will eventually destroy the event.
A relay is a team event in which a different member of the team takes over the task at the end of each stage (leg) of the event. This means that members of a team DO NOT walk consecutive stages. Some teams will say that they are put at a disadvantage if a member of their team has to complete a second later stage. What they are really saying is that they are gaining an advantage by having members of their team walking consecutive stages. This is a disadvantage and unfair to the other teams, without whom there will be no event.
If the event entry form says that a team member can walk one or two stages this means that they can only walk a maximum of two stages, unless of course there is a genuine reason for walking more. Experience has shown that the person/s selected to walk multiple stages are the "gun" walkers. Is this really fair to the other teams ?
Taranaki Racewalkers are to be congratulated on the way in which they spread their "gun" walkers among various team, giving every member of their club a chance of being in a winning team.
Let's all do the same in future and NO walking consecutive stages. Paul.
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Subject: Update: Race Walking; Tony pulled out at 32 kms
Hi everyone,
Well as you will have seen on TV, Tony didn't finish the 50 km event today. He was well placed early on; I received the following txts message from Jonesy (unfortunately I didn't check my phone until late in the afternoon as I was out at the NZ Road Nationals ...
The first txt was at 9:59 just as the race was starting, "I've got coffee in hand, I've moved a kitchen chair into the lounge about 2 metres from the TV (so to avoid any glare) all set. Go Sarg". The second txt reads "He's going well. Got himself into a bunch of 10 or so. 2nd 5k 24:10ish. good man."
As the results show Tony started to move through the field in one direction but then drifted back in the other and then pulled out. But Tony, I am still so very proud of you and when i say that i know everyone else says the same.
Here is the latest from the Athletes and certainly Race Walking journalist buddy Murray McKinnon
Tony Sargisson withdraws from 50km walk at World Champs
Tony Sargisson withdrew at the 32km mark in the 50km road walk at the World Athletic Championships in Osaka this morning.
The Melbourne Commonwealth Games silver medallist was cautious from the start at 7am, with a temperature of 27.5 degrees and humidity of 70 percent, and was in last position at 5km.
By 10km he had improved to 41st, and was up to 38th at 15km.
After receiving a caution Sargisson took a turn for the worse at 18km, he dropped to 46th at 20km and at 25km was back in last position. His pace then dropped considerably, he picked up a further caution, and after passing the 30km mark in 2h 33m 27s, decided to call it a day at the New Zealand drink station.
Sargisson, the New Zealand team captain, said that he just didn't feel right.
"The wheels just started falling off, I started getting cramps in my stomach and I decided to take it easy for 3 or 4 kilometres, just to see how it felt. I took it easy and just never really recovered from it," said Sargisson.
Australian Nathan Deakes, who Sargisson finished second behind at the Games in Melbourne, won in 3h 43m 53s, 29 seconds ahead of Yohan Diniz of France with a further 16 seconds to Alex Schwazer of Italy.
Of the 54 that started only 31 finished. Nine were disqualified and 14did not finish.
There was drama at the finish when Yuki Yamazaki of Japan was inadvertently directed into the Stadium and the finish when he still had 2km to go. He ended up as one of the did not finishers.
OSAKA, Japan — An emotional Nathan Deakes dominated the 50 kilometres race walk on Saturday to add the world title to his glittering list of honours.
The Australian world record holder broke down in tears of joy and relief as he crossed the finish line in three hours 43 minutes and 53 seconds, completing a gruelling race in hot and sunny conditions.
France's Yohan Diniz took silver in 3:44:22 with Italian Alex Schwazer timing 3:44:38 for his second consecutive world bronze medal. Olympic silver medallist Denis Nizhegorodov of Russia finished fourth.
"It's a great feeling, records are to be broken, but nobody can take the world champion title away from you," said an overcome Deakes.
"I will remember forever the feeling when I came into the stadium and it was clear I'm the champion. It was quite emotional. I think it was my 10th 50km, so great jubilation."
Deakes led from 35km to clock his best time this season, although it was outside his 2006 world record of 3:36:04 minutes set in his home city of Geelong, in Australia's Victoria state.
"I had my plan and executed well. I was thinking to go in front a little bit later, but the French guy went so I overtook him at 35km," Deakes said.
"The last five kilometres were very tough, but I was able to manage it. I didn't have any major crisis during the race.
"There's no secret, just hard work and lot of sacrifice. I also have a great team around me."
Diniz, the 2006 European champion, said he would take a long time to recover from the tough event staged at the height of the steamy Japanese summer.
"The race was hard with difficult conditions and the body will need time to recover. I confirmed my previous results. I started cautiously and my strategy paid off," said the Frenchman.
"The gold wasn't out of reach but it wasn't for me today. Nathan Deakes was too strong. I was strong too but not at my top technically."
However, bronze medallist Schwazer regretted his conservative tactics.
"I am very disappointed. Unfortunately my race was not the best one tactically speaking. I started too slow and then I could not catch up with the best," Schwazer said.
"In these conditions, I wanted to be cautious, but now I know that I was too cautious."
The 30-year-old Deakes won both the 20km and 50km walks last year to claim his second Commonwealth double.
He also took 20km bronze at the Athens Olympics, where he was disqualified in the 50km, and is a multiple national champion over both distances.
Deakes was named Australia's male athlete of the year in 2006 after his Commonwealth heroics.
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The course for the NZ Championships is a "Flat" course as viewed from a runner's perspective. In fact from what I can recall the course has a change of elevation (altitude) of about 18 to 20 feet on each half of each lap. That is, 18 to 20 foot rise and 18 to 20 foot drop each lap. The walking surface is relatively smooth, as a runner would say, it is flat.
There were a few DSQ's also but they weren't listed here.
The course will blow away the visitors next week, so be prepared!
EVENT
RACE
GRADE
SURNAME
FIRST
GRADE
CLUB
ACTUAL
DISTANCE
AUCK
NO.
PLACE
PLACE
NAME
TIME
CHAMPS
WALKS
1A
1
1
Sim
David
MM45
NHB
0:55:53
10000m
1ST
1A
2
2
Little
Gary
MM65+
NHB
0:58:19
10000m
2ND
1A
5
1
BARBER
Shirley
MW55+
ACA
1:07:35
10000m
1ST
1A
3
1
Burge
Kevin
SM
GLEN EDEN
0:58:32
10000m
1ST
1A
4
1
GORE
ALANA
SW
HAMILTON HAWKS
1:07:11
10000m
1B
1
1
BRADLEY
Maggie
W16
WAITAKERE
0:30:39
5000m
1ST
1B
3
2
MARTIN
RACHAEL
W16
PAKURANGA
0:33:33
5000m
2ND
1B
2
1
MABBETT
KELLY
W19
HAMILTON HAWKS
0:31:01
5000m
1B
4
2
Drummond
Sarah-Amy
W19
PAKURANGA
0:39:14
5000m
1ST
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There were a few DSQ's also but they weren't listed here.
The course will blow away the visitors next week, so be prepared!
EVENT
RACE
GRADE
SURNAME
FIRST
GRADE
CLUB
ACTUAL
DISTANCE
AUCK
NO.
PLACE
PLACE
NAME
TIME
CHAMPS
WALKS
1A
1
1
Sim
David
MM45
NHB
0:55:53
10000m
1ST
1A
2
2
Little
Gary
MM65+
NHB
0:58:19
10000m
2ND
1A
5
1
BARBER
Shirley
MW55+
ACA
1:07:35
10000m
1ST
1A
3
1
Burge
Kevin
SM
GLEN EDEN
0:58:32
10000m
1ST
1A
4
1
GORE
ALANA
SW
HAMILTON HAWKS
1:07:11
10000m
1B
1
1
BRADLEY
Maggie
W16
WAITAKERE
0:30:39
5000m
1ST
1B
3
2
MARTIN
RACHAEL
W16
PAKURANGA
0:33:33
5000m
2ND
1B
2
1
MABBETT
KELLY
W19
HAMILTON HAWKS
0:31:01
5000m
1B
4
2
Drummond
Sarah-Amy
W19
PAKURANGA
0:39:14
5000m
1ST
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There were a few DSQ's also but they weren't listed here.
The course will blow away the visitors next week, so be prepared!
EVENT
RACE
GRADE
SURNAME
FIRST
GRADE
CLUB
ACTUAL
DISTANCE
AUCK
NO.
PLACE
PLACE
NAME
TIME
CHAMPS
WALKS
1A
1
1
Sim
David
MM45
NHB
0:55:53
10000m
1ST
1A
2
2
Little
Gary
MM65+
NHB
0:58:19
10000m
2ND
1A
5
1
BARBER
Shirley
MW55+
ACA
1:07:35
10000m
1ST
1A
3
1
Burge
Kevin
SM
GLEN EDEN
0:58:32
10000m
1ST
1A
4
1
GORE
ALANA
SW
HAMILTON HAWKS
1:07:11
10000m
1B
1
1
BRADLEY
Maggie
W16
WAITAKERE
0:30:39
5000m
1ST
1B
3
2
MARTIN
RACHAEL
W16
PAKURANGA
0:33:33
5000m
2ND
1B
2
1
MABBETT
KELLY
W19
HAMILTON HAWKS
0:31:01
5000m
1B
4
2
Drummond
Sarah-Amy
W19
PAKURANGA
0:39:14
5000m
1ST
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-- Bart Jones
Scottish Walkers Wellington Scottish Athletics – web-site - http://www.scottishathletics.org.nz/
Wellington NEW ZEALAND - A great place to visit!!!!!!!
Telephone: +64-4-477 3746
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Subject: Jackson's Flooring Manawtu Striders Half Marathon and 5/10k
Run/Walk Sunday 19th August 2007
Hi All,
Just a reminder that there is still time for you to get your entries into
the Jackson's Flooring Manawatu Striders Half Marathon and 5/10k Run/Walk
taking place on SUNDAY 19th AUGUST 2007. The cut off date for online and
postal registration for all events is 4.00 p.m. WEDNESDAY 15TH AUGUST. If
you miss this deadline, entry will be available at Shoe Clinic, Broadway,
Palmerston North at the times listed below, or on the day.
Registration packs and race numbers can be collected from Shoe Clinic,
Broadway, on Friday 17th August between noon and 2 p.m, on Saturday 18th
August between 2 p.m. and 4.30 p.m. and on Sunday 19th August from Race
Headquarters at Massey University "Fuel Fitness" Recreation Centre any time
from 7.30 a.m. until the start of your race. Timing transponders and
pre-ordered T-Shirts and Polos can only be collected from registration at
Race HQ on the day. Sales of T-Shirts and Polos on the day are subject to
stock availability.
So get your entries in to what promises to be a great event, with an
excellent selection of spot prizes including TWO GRAND SPOT TRAVEL PRIZES -
a trip for 2 to sunny Queensland and a trip for 2 to Queenstown. Come and
join the Manawatu Striders who, along with the title sponsor Jackson's
Flooring, celebrate the 25th anniversary of the running of this event - a
medal year for all Half Marathon participants. We look forward to seeing
you there.
Full details available on our website www.manawatustriders.org.nz
Cheers and good luck,
Trish Castle
Event Coordinator
Manawatu Striders
The Marton to Wanganui Relay is being conducted by the Wanganui Harrier Club on Saturday 8th September.
This is a well sponsored event of 10 stages covering 67km of picturesque country roads. Stages range from fast flat to hilly with a stage that suits anyone.
Further details and entry forms are available from:
The Secretary,
Wanganui Harrier Club,
P.O.Box 707,
Wanganui.
or by contacting Roger Morrison at (06) 343 2866 home (06) 965 6192 work or roger.morrison@...
This is a highly recommended event. See you all there.
Yesterday, Saturday 11th August, the Manawatu/Wanganui Centre of Athletics New Zealand held their annual road championships at Wanganui.
The course is a one lap course starting at the Wanganui East Club then follows the river road before turning inland and returning to the Club. The weather was at times wet and windy but not really cold.
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Many readers may be interested in commenting on proposed changes of rules for Veteran competitions which have appeared under News on the BMAF website http://www.bvaf.org.uk/
"The biennial World Masters Athletics General Assembly will be held in Riccione on 11 September. The BMAF will have five voting Delegates - Tony Bowman, Bridget Cushen, Kevin Dillon, Maurice Doogan and Eric Horwill. Affiliates have submitted the following Proposals that, if passed, will affect your event at domestic and international level. If you agree or disagree or have views on these Proposals, please get in touch with Tony Bowman who is coordinating all responses at: 25 The Poplars, Guiseley, West Yorks. LS20 9PF Tel 01943 877533. The 5 Delegates will vote accordingly."
The proposed changes relating to walking are Nos. 37&38, as follows. The rest relate mainly to Field Events.
* Proposal 37 (from Australia) - That for the setting of World Records for track and road Walk events, a minimum of 6 nationally accredited judges be required with at least 1 judge at the highest grading for a National Technical Official. This judge to be the equivalent of at least a Level 1 IAAF Technical Official. * Reason: European masters’ competition has the ability to engage 6 IAAF international walk judges at walk events where world records/best performances may be set. Because of the distance factor and sparse population of many WMA affiliates, it is not practical nor economical to comply with this rule. By setting a standard which could be met by these Affiliates, the validity of world record claims would then be justified. * Proposal 38 (from BMAF) - For Road and Track Walks, judges be instructed to use discretion in applying the rules regarding to “straight knees” at contact, for masters. * Reason: Many masters particularly in the older age groups have difficulties in fully straightening the knee, though their legs are still “braced” and this would not class as a disqualification.
To those who are registered through an Athletics NZ affiliated club and are competing at the Centre Champs at Wanganui next Saturday, there has been a correction in the distance to be walked.
As in the past non-registered walkers may compete in the event but will obviously not be eliglble for awards.
Please find details of the upcoming Centre Road Championships to be held at Wanganui on the 11th August 2007. Please distribute these details to club members via email or at club runs. We have sent a hard copy to all clubs normal postal addresses as well.
Attached is both an entry form and an information sheet. At the encouragement of the Wanganui Harrier Club, we have issued an entry form for trial purposes. Athletes can either:
1. Use the entry form and enter prior to 11 August
2. Turn up on the day as in prior years
There is no mandatory prior entry needed, clubs will be invoiced based on entries on the day. Should athletes enter prior to the race, we will accordingly deduct off these entries (alreasdy received) from the club invoice.
All athletes should be wearing their correct club uniform and current registration number. Only those athletes currently registered will be eligible for centre placings.
Any athlete seeking selection for the National Road Champs in Auckland should be competing at the Centre Championships, unless they have contacted the selectors with a written request for dispensation. At the conclusion of prize giving, the Centre representative team will be announced.
It would help if interested athletes contact the selectors prior to 11 August to register interest for planning purposes.
I look forward to seeing a good turnout at Wanganui.
I have forwarded this message from Australia in case there is any junior walkers who wish to participate in the event so that they post a time that MAY be accepted by Athletics NZ for selection for the 2008 World Juniors.
Please forward this to any juniors that it may apply to. Paul.
Subject: ozwalker02 Victorian 10,000m track championships - World Junior Qualifying opportunity
Hi everyone
I was approached in June by Simon Baker and Brent Vallance to see if VRWC would be able to schedule a 10,000m track walk late in the winter season so give junior walkers a chance to get a qualifier on the board for the 2008 World Junior Championships.
We discussed this at our July VRWC committee meeting and decided that the best opportunity would be on Saturday 25 August when we currently have the Vic 10 km titles scheduled. It would simply be a case of changing the events from road to track (obviously with AV approval).
It has taken a month to clear all the issues involved and I can now officially announce that the Victorian 10 km racewalking titles for men and women will be held as Track events and that AA will ratify any World Junior Qualifying performances done in this event. We have a full panel of appropriately qualified judges and all is now in place for us to proceed.
Details are as follows:
Event: Victorian 10,000m Racewalking Track Championships for men and women Time : 2PM Date: Saturday 25 August 2007 Venue: George Knott Athletics Track, Heidelberg Road, Clifton Hill, Victoria Entries: Entries must be made via Athletics Victoria on the correct entry form which can be downloaded from http://www.athsvic.org.au/cache/MeetFile/3592007%20AV%20Walk%20Entry%20Form.pdf
CLifton Hill is an inner northern suburb in Melbourne and the track is close to the Clifton Hill Railway station.
Kind regards
Tim
-- Tim Erickson
Secretary, Victorian Race Walkers Club
03 9012 5431
0412 257 496
terick@melbpc.org.au
Subject: Race Walking - Watch for Tony Sargisson in Osaka
The 11th IAAF World Championships in Athletics is being held in Osaka, Japan from 25 August to 02 September.
Competing at 7:00 a.m. (11:00 am NZ time) on Saturday September 01, in the 50 Kilometres Race Walk is my buddy and training partner Tony Sargisson.
You may recall Tony won the Silver medal in the 50 km event at the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne when he finished second to World Record holder Nathan Deakes of Australia. Sky TV is broadcasting the World Championships, so you can catch this and other events.
The World Championships are undoubtedly the pinnacle of Athletic competitions, surpassing the Commonwealth and Olympic Games. Tony will perform to his absolute best and will be up against some awesomely fast Race Walkers. Unlike many of the International Race Walking athletes, Tony is a genuine Amateur athlete; he works full-time as a Primary School teacher at St Josephs School in Takapuna and is married with two young children. He fits his hours of training in and around his teaching career and family life.
Tony is recognised as one of New Zealand's High performance Athletes by Athletics New Zealand and as such receives some financial assistance for travel and training from Athletics NZ, along with clothing and shoe sponsorships from New Balance and Beattie Matheson Limited and hydration support from Horleys. Tony is also fortunate to receive superb support from the St Josephs School Administrators, who have given him time off so he can finalise his training and preparations to compete in Osaka. The school administrators did the same thing for Tony last year prior to the Commonwealth Games.
It is only through the assistance from his wife (Stacey) and family (Troy and Jo), these main sponsors and his employer that he is able to train, race and be competitive at an International level; it is to his family, his sponsors and his employer that we owe a great deal for your ongoing passion, commitment and support to Tony - he could not have accomplished his international success without your help. Thank you all for your support. I know Tony thanks you all individually and personally himself, but as a fellow competitor and training partner of Tony I want to thank you, because I have seen the improvements in his performance that your support and his dedication to training and competing have made.
So, please join me in wishing Tony all the best and every success in Osaka.
Yesterday morning (Sunday) about 250 athletes competed in the third of the winter series of 5/10/15km walks/runs conducted in Palmerston North by the Manawatu Striders Club. The weather was cold with just a very light gusting northerly.
Some of the times recorded are:
!0km walk.
Sue Hoskins 1.02.22
15km walk.
Michelle Lei 1.25.41
Andrus Lei 1.29.25
Ian Bailey 1.35.51
David Jones 1.39.09
Grant Dyer 1.44.00
Peter ....... 1.45.30
Christine Puts 1.46.16
Owen Rodgers 1.46.18
Daryl James 1.46.20
Sharon Wright 1.50.23
Lindsay Wright 1. 53.16
Janet Hackett 1.53.50
Allan McKey 1.53.50
Marion Fink 1.55.17
Jackie Welsh 1 58.17
Most of these walkers will hopefully be competing in next sunday's one hour walks at the Manawatu Community Track at Massey University, Palmerston North.
For details about this event contact Michelle at leim@... phone (06) 355 9285 or (027) 445 3283.
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Subject: [nzracewalking] 1 Hour track walk Palmerston North 5th August
This is advanced notice that Race Walking New Zealand (RWNZ) are putting on a 1 hour track event in Palmerston North on Sunday 5th August. The object is to go as far as you can in 1 hour. There are set standards based on your age and gender. You can achieve a gold, silver or bronze level if you meet these standards. Certificates will be issued accordingly. There will be 2 events, one for Race Walkers (fully judged) and one for Freestyle walkers (no running or creeping).
Final details are being worked on at this moment, but we will also have medals for the first 3 men and women in the Race Walking section. These places will be awarded on a performance basis - that is age is taken into account according to performance tables - it essentially puts Glenn Burrell, Ivor Ellis and say Peter Baille on an equal footing. You must be a member of RWNZ to qualify for these medals.
More detailed information will be available soon. Please spread the word to all walkers - Race Walkers and Free Style walkers. This is an event not to be missed. Put it in your diary 5th August - a very friendly walking event put on by very friendly walkers in the Manawatu!
Yes I know it is the same day as Taupo half - but that is very walker unfriendly!!
This morning under very cold and windy conditions about 150 walkers and runners took part in the 5km and 10km walks and runs conducted by the Manawatu Striders Club as first in a three event series leading up to the Half Marathon in August. Fortunately the rain held off during the events.
While officially only a fun event a few times were taken. First walker home in the 5km event was Kevin Waters in 33.13, fastest in the 10km walk was David Jones in 1.04.15. Fastest 5km runner 21.00 and fastest 10km runner recorded 37.57.
Many thanks for letting us know Paul – I have enjoyed my association with Rene - brief that it has been. She will be missed by the many who have come in contact with her over the years.
-- Bart Jones
Scottish Walkers Wellington Scottish Athletics – web-site - http://www.scottishathletics.org.nz/
Wellington NEW ZEALAND - A great place to visit!!!!!!!
Telephone: +64-4-477 3746
mobile: (027) 608 6111
email: bart.jones@...
On 9/6/07 8:02 PM, "Paul Godbaz" <paul.godbaz@...> wrote:
I see in this evening's edition of the local newspaper a death notice for Rene Steele of Levin.
Renee has been a tireless worker for the Levin Joggers and Walkers Club for many years and a lot of you will know her as the contact for the Great Forest Events over the Years.
Rene has also competed actively in many events like 10km and half marathons and including her occassional dabble in race walking where she has picked up medals at the NZ Masters Games at Wanganui.
She will be sorely missed.
Rest in peace Renee.
I see in this evening's edition of the local newspaper a death notice for Rene Steele of Levin.
Renee has been a tireless worker for the Levin Joggers and Walkers Club for many years and a lot of you will know her as the contact for the Great Forest Events over the Years.
Rene has also competed actively in many events like 10km and half marathons and including her occassional dabble in race walking where she has picked up medals at the NZ Masters Games at Wanganui.
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 2007 Australian 50 km Championship
Sorry everyone..that should have read Sunday 18 November 2007. Apologies.
Tim
On 02/06/07 19:31, tim erickson wrote: > Hi all > > The 2007 Australian 50 km championship date and venue have now been > confirmed. It will be held at Albert Park in Melbourne on Sunday 28 > November. Prospective competitors should book this important date into > their diaries and plan their training accordingly. > > Kind regards > > Tim