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I also ride and kayak. In the spring I pretty much hang up the bike to boat. Drop me a line if you are ever headed to the kern to boat (gene hacker at mchsi dot com)

I don't know what riding is close to Visalia. We sometimes ride up near Quaking Aspen/Camp Nelson...there are some great trails around there. The nelson trail is technical but reasonable....good stuff!

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: ryancox787

To: KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:37 PM

Subject: [KRV-MTB] Noob

Hello Everyone,
I'm Ryan. I live in Visalia, not to far from you all. I'm a kayaker and am looking to get into mountain biking. If you guys have any good trails for fairly new off road riders I would love to hear your suggestions. Thank!

#226

From: "ryancox787" <ryancox787@...>
Date: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Noob

ryancox787

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Hello Everyone,
I'm Ryan. I live in Visalia, not to far from you all.  I'm a kayaker and am
looking to get into mountain biking. If you guys have any good trails for fairly
new off road riders I would love to hear your suggestions. Thank!

#225

From: "Gene Hacker" <genehacker@...>
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: killer deal on 2.5s

kiehacker

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http://wheelworld.com/itemlist.cfm?pageId=154

Good for the soft around here.

#224

From: "Gene Hacker" <genehacker@...>
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:46 pm
Subject: from Save the Trails.

kiehacker

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Green sticker money is very important to trail maintenece in the Kern Valley. The link below takes you to a very cool program that makes sending a letter easy as can be.

Geno

_______________________________________

When you click on the below link the letter you recently created to prevent the Governor from "Borrowing" $90 Million of your Green Sticker OHV Trust Funds will be sent to CORVA who will hand deliver it to the Governor, legislators and others.
If your email program doesn't recognize the web address above as an active link, please copy and paste the following address into your web browser.

http://www.savethetrails.us/VerifyEmail.aspx?EmailID=genehacker@...&PetitionID=36

Thank you for for taking action to keep your trails open.

#223

From: "Gene Hacker" <genehacker@...>
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: from SSFTA - keysville SAT 1/31

kiehacker

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Keyesville Trail Work Day and Ride
Saturday Jan 31 8:30 Mesa Marin Chevron Pitstop
We will be working on the outer loop; a re-route at the top and arrest a few rutting problems out that way.
Bring bikes and work gloves as we will ride up the trail backwards from the bottom of Pearl Harbor Drive. The Keyesville Course is in great shape but it could use a bit of attention. If anyone wants to ride the trail in it�s entirety that can be arranged also, it�d be a good introduction to the Keyesville Course. This is a great way to support our Mountain Biking. And next time you ride the course you�ll recognize your handiwork; go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
Tim Strem 204-1458

#222

From: mtndjd <mtndjd@...>
Date: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:18 am
Subject: Fwd: Keyesville recreation plan

dd0

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Here is the original text of the BLM notice that I saw at the Keyesville Kiosk, and Jamestore board. VERY important meeting for local mountain bikers if anyone can attend!

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/newsroom/2008/december/CC0918_Keyesville_meeting.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: mtndjd <mtndjd@...>
Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Subject: Keyesville recreation plan
To: KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com

Attn - very important meeting regarding the discussion of future mountain biking opportunities in Keyesville. There is also a notice at the Kiosk in Keyesville and at the Jamestore board regarding a discussion of Mountain Biking opportunities and ideas needed by the BLM field staff. I could not find a copy of the posted letter, but below is a link to the BLM information regarding the meeting. The posted notice indicated that the BLM was very interested in hearing from Mountain Bikers.

https://www.blm.gov/ca/forms/calendar/view_event.php?id=745&eDate=1233126000

The Bureau of Land Management will be holding a Public Workshop this Wednesday, January 28th, in Lake Isabella to discuss the future of recreational activities in the Keyesville area. The workshop will be in the Senior Center in Lake Isabella from 6PM-8PM. Information from the meeting will be used in the planning of recreational activities in the area.s the future of recreational activities in the Keyesville area. The workshop will be in the Senior Center in Lake Isabella from 6PM-8PM. Information from the meeting will be used in the planning of recreational activities in the area.

#221

From: mtndjd <mtndjd@...>
Date: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:13 am
Subject: Keyesville recreation plan

dd0

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Attn - very important meeting regarding the discussion of future mountain biking opportunities in Keyesville. There is also a notice at the Kiosk in Keyesville and at the Jamestore board regarding a discussion of Mountain Biking opportunities and ideas needed by the BLM field staff. I could not find a copy of the posted letter, but below is a link to the BLM information regarding the meeting. The posted notice indicated that the BLM was very interested in hearing from Mountain Bikers.

https://www.blm.gov/ca/forms/calendar/view_event.php?id=745&eDate=1233126000

The Bureau of Land Management will be holding a Public Workshop this Wednesday, January 28th, in Lake Isabella to discuss the future of recreational activities in the Keyesville area. The workshop will be in the Senior Center in Lake Isabella from 6PM-8PM. Information from the meeting will be used in the planning of recreational activities in the area.s the future of recreational activities in the Keyesville area. The workshop will be in the Senior Center in Lake Isabella from 6PM-8PM. Information from the meeting will be used in the planning of recreational activities in the area.

#220

From: "dbcooperscash" <dbcooperscash@...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2008 7:38 am
Subject: trail maintence with wyatt

dbcooperscash

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i am going to head to dutch flat on tuesday to do trail work if its
not done already havent been up in a while so dont know if anyone
wants to join i will be up there

#219

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: physical therapist

kiehacker

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Thanks Allison...I am all dialed in with them for next week.

Geno


<<- Allison ->> wrote:
>
> Jeff Dale from L.I. Hospital was helpful. Otherwise, i was seeing a PT
> in S.D.
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Gene Hacker <genehacker@...
> <mailto:genehacker@...>> wrote:
>
>     Anyone on the list have a PT they recommend?
>
>     Thanks
>     Geno
>
>
>
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#218

From: "Alli" <soulriderx@...>
Date: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: physical therapist

soulridergirl

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Jeff Dale from L.I. Hospital was helpful. Otherwise, i was seeing a PT
in S.D.





--- In KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com, Gene Hacker <genehacker@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone on the list have a PT they recommend?
>
> Thanks
> Geno
>

#217

From: "<<- Allison ->>" <soulriderx@...>
Date: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: physical therapist

soulridergirl

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Jeff Dale from L.I. Hospital was helpful. Otherwise, i was seeing a PT in S.D.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Gene Hacker <genehacker@...> wrote:

Anyone on the list have a PT they recommend?

Thanks
Geno

#216

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:43 pm
Subject: physical therapist

kiehacker

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Anyone on the list have a PT they recommend?

Thanks
Geno

#215

From: "giddenseric" <eric@...>
Date: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Cedar Creek Ride Wed.

giddenseric

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Eric and Rebecca are most likely in too.

#214

From: "Andrew Pernicano" <sunsurfh2o@...>
Date: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: Cedar Creek Ride Wed.

sunsurfh2o

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Allison, Dave, Chris, Andrew so far.

Thanks.

From: mtndjd

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:14 AM

To: KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [KRV-MTB] Cedar Creek Ride Wed.

Shuttle is planned, we have a driver. 9am Wednesday. Start at Sherman Pass, end at Johnsondale Bridge. Reply if interested.

Allison Dave Chris in so far.

#213

From: mtndjd <mtndjd@...>
Date: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:14 pm
Subject: Cedar Creek Ride Wed.

dd0

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Shuttle is planned, we have a driver. 9am Wednesday. Start at Sherman Pass, end at Johnsondale Bridge. Reply if interested.

Allison Dave Chris in so far.

#212

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:13 am
Subject: Keeping Our Trails Twisty

kiehacker

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I thought I would pass this along:

Keeping Our Trails Twisty
We encourage everyone to respect the temporary fire closures in the
Piutes in order to give the vegetation time to grow back around the
trails. We all enjoy the forest trails because they are twisty, tight
and interesting. Often after a fire the trees and bushes which defined
the twisty trail are gone and it is easy to just go straight. The bushes
will grow back over the next few years, but if people shortcut and
straighten out the trail now, then the straightaway will become the new
trail, which will also channel the water down the trail, possibly
creating erosion ruts and requiring increased trail maintenance. We all
want to ride interesting forest trails.

As though that is not enough we have done the math and shortcutting the
trails can reduce the length of the trail up to 40%. We need to keep all
the trail mileage that we can so........
Please Help Keep Your Trails Twisty-Stay On The Trail

#211

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:33 am
Subject: blm wilderness

kiehacker

Offline

There is a bill that is getting pushed thru that would create more
wilderness areas on BLM land.  I am not fully opposed to wilderness
designation, but it dose greatly limit recreation and access to many
areas and its obviously very bad for Mt biking (as they are not allowed
in Wilderness areas).  For me its kind of a case by case basis if I
think its a bad thing or not.

Anyhow I thought I would pass along some basic info I was sent which
opposes it, so folks would know about it...

/
"//*Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid recently announced his plans to
call back the Senate on November 17 to vote on a massive land grab bill
that will lock up millions of additional acres of public land, close
thousands of miles of recreation trails, harm already struggling rural
economies, further reduce renewable resource harvesting, be detrimental
to forest health by eliminating all forest management, restrict property
rights and hamstring energy exploration in the United States.*

*The bill would create over 100 new Wilderness Areas, Wilderness Study
Areas & Conservation Areas, many without Public or local involvement or
support. It would eliminate existing energy production leases, forcing
more dependency on foreign energy sources & further increasing the cost
of energy in the US. The proposed Wilderness areas do not even meet the
intent of the Wilderness Act as untouched by the hand of man.

The bill would codify the National Landscape Conservation System (NLCS)
currently consisting of 40 million acres of land administered by the
BLM. The NLCS would threaten the Bureau of Land Management's
long-standing multiple use strategy by placing conservation and
preservation of "nationally significant landscapes" above traditional
uses."*

/

http://72.167.145.231/savethetrails/Default.aspx?PetitionID=31"
<http://72.167.145.231/savethetrails/Default.aspx?PetitionID=31>

#210

From: "Alli" <soulriderx@...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: FREE BEER

soulridergirl

Offline

Dave and I will be there. We have some extra trail tools in case
anyone wants to use them....


--- In KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Giddens" <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Now that I have your attention.
>
>
>
> The folks from the Brewery and the Forrest Service will be doing
trail work
> on JO Saturday, the 15th of November.  As you know, getting the
water bars
> in for the winter rains will really help the trail come next year.
Also,
> the bottom third has gotten a bit rutted.  We'll be meeting at the Work
> Station in Kernville (next to the Hut) at 8 am.  And yes, we'll
throw in a
> couple of free beers to everyone that shows up to help.
>
>
>
> Eric Giddens
>
> Kern River Brewing Company
>
> phone: 760-376-BEER (2337)
>
> fax: 760-376-BEER
>
> www.kernriverbrewing.com
>

#209

From: "Eric Giddens" <eric@...>
Date: Wed Nov 5, 2008 5:43 pm
Subject: FREE BEER

giddenseric

Offline

Now that I have your attention…

The folks from the Brewery and the Forrest Service will be doing trail work on JO Saturday, the 15^th of November. As you know, getting the water bars in for the winter rains will really help the trail come next year. Also, the bottom third has gotten a bit rutted. We’ll be meeting at the Work Station in Kernville (next to the Hut) at 8 am. And yes, we’ll throw in a couple of free beers to everyone that shows up to help.

Eric Giddens

Kern River Brewing Company

phone: 760-376-BEER (2337)

fax: 760-376-BEER

www.kernriverbrewing.com

#208

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 4:56 pm
Subject: trail boss needed

kiehacker

Offline

There is a trials comp this weekend in Keysville and a couple of riders
have expressed an interest in doing some trail work.  Stewards of the
Sequoia is already working a different trail this weekend, so they are
looking for a trailboss to head up this crew.

Dutchflat received new water bars last year but they need to cleaned
out.  This is usually pretty easy and fast work.

Anyhow if anyone is interested please respond asap as its kind of a last
minute.  You can either contact me or Stewards of the Sequoia.

#207

From: "Alli" <soulriderx@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Biking in KRV coming of age:

soulridergirl

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http://www.hermosatours.net/giant_sequoia.html

#206

From: "Soul Rider Girl" <soulriderx@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Trail conditions looking good

soulridergirl

Offline

Thanks for the work on Waggy Ridge - that trail is getting so good. Lets plan to ride it next week when you get back!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Chris Thomas <chris@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if anybody's been out there lately but the trails are in
great shape. The deep summer powder is packed down again and traction
is back. Wagy ridge is as fun as ever, I spent a couple hours
trimming back branches on it yesterday to improve the flow. I'm out of
town this weekend but after that let's start up some rides, weekdays
or weekends, its the season!

-Chris

#205

From: "Chris Thomas" <chris@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:49 pm
Subject: Trail conditions looking good

cnthomas

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I'm not sure if anybody's been out there lately but the trails are in
great shape. The deep summer powder is packed down again and traction
is back. Wagy ridge is as fun as ever,  I spent a couple hours
trimming back branches on it yesterday to improve the flow. I'm out of
town this weekend but after that let's start up some rides, weekdays
or weekends, its the season!

-Chris

#204

From: George Brown <ssusdoc@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: Sweetened Bailout on it's way to the House!

ssusdoc

Offline

Call Your House Rep NOW!!!!!!!!

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Andrew Pernicano <sunsurfh2o@...> wrote:

From: Andrew Pernicano <sunsurfh2o@...>
Subject: [KRV-MTB] Sweetened Bailout on it's way to the House!
To: NoBailout@...
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:17 AM

The Senate passed their "sweetened" version of the bailout and it's on its way to the House. In my opinion, we are in grave danger of it
passing this time around now that members can point to pros for the individual tax payers and the pressure is most definitely upon them

by party heads, the president and incumbents.

If you haven't already emailed your representative, please, please do so now! They are listening, they're
worried about re-election! It is, after all, the House of Representatives, they should be acting on behalf of their constituents, not their party
leaders. http://www.house. gov/house/ MemStateSearch. shtml

Postulate what you want about the right or wrong of this bailout, you cannot deny the very real possibility that once the banks purge their books

of the toxic securities the credit freeze will still persist! What will they do with the money? There are no provisions attached to the money that

requires them to turn around and start lending again. A bailout does not guarantee an immediate, even eventual, thawing of the credit freeze

(anytime soon).

I had several contacts email me in response to my forwarded message. One shared their personal letter with me, others shared links and info.
Below are some of their inputs.

Some Links:

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=S27yitK32ds&eurl  (Great satirical evaluation of the bailout, proposed solution follows)

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=dv6rQ0U01Yc&feature=related (Ron Paul challenges on lessons NOT LEARNED Bernanke)

Exerpt

"Conflict of interest??? Corruption?? ???    AIG's number 1 trading partner was Goldman Sachs, they got bailed out (while Lehman brothers did not), by Henry Paulson (X-Goldman Sachs CEO worth 700 million - most probably in goldman sachs stock), and the only other economist on the deal was another goldman sachs exec (also highly invested) (and both guys responsible for this mess).

And a few days ago Warren Buffet invests 5 billion in Goldman Sachs. Yesterday he freaked out on Congress and said that if they dont pass the bailout plan , they will cause the worse financial disaster in nations history. (once they pass it, he gets waaaay richer). There is a huge transfer of wealth going on, and power grab going to the ultra elite.

And the middle class taxpayer will have to pay for this. and in more ways than taxes....the Federal Reserve is printing money like crazy right now (inflation). ..which makes the middle class much much poorer."

Another

"Apparently , Japan's recession was prolonged by the government subsidizing their banks."

And a letter:

> RE:     Please stop this bailout!
>
>    The current credit freeze is likely due to Wall Street's hope of a
>    bailout; bankers will not sell their lousy assets for 20 cents on
>    the dollar if the government might pay 30, 50, or 80 cents.
>
>    Please send them the message that the Bailout is not going to
>    happen so they will find market-based solutions.
>
>    Talk of Armageddon, is simply ridiculous scare-mongering. If
>    financial institutions cannot make productive loans, a profit
>    opportunity exists for someone else. This might not happen
>    instantly, but it will happen.
>
>    The obvious alternative to a bailout is letting troubled financial
>    institutions declare bankruptcy. Bankruptcy means that
>    shareholders typically get wiped out and the creditors own the
>    company.
>
>    Bankruptcy does not mean the company disappears; it is just owned
>    by someone new (as has occurred with several airlines). Bankruptcy
>    punishes those who took excessive risks while preserving those
>    aspects of a businesses that remain profitable.
>
>    In contrast, a bailout transfers enormous wealth from taxpayers to
>    those who knowingly engaged in risky subprime lending. Thus, the
>    bailout encourages companies to take large, imprudent risks and
>    count on getting bailed out by government. This "moral hazard"
>    generates enormous distortions in an economy's allocation of its
>    financial resources.
>
>    If the bailout goes thru it will send a message to the markets to
>    take unreasonable risk because the govt will be there to bail them
>    out to socialize the losses if they fail. Not allowing poor run
>    companies to fail will make our overall markets weak.
>
>    PLEASE STOP THIS BAILOUT!
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------

#203

From: "Andrew Pernicano" <sunsurfh2o@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:17 pm
Subject: Sweetened Bailout on it's way to the House!

sunsurfh2o

Offline

The Senate passed their "sweetened" version of the bailout and it's on its way to the House. In my opinion, we are in grave danger of it
passing this time around now that members can point to pros for the individual tax payers and the pressure is most definitely upon them

by party heads, the president and incumbents.

If you haven't already emailed your representative, please, please do so now! They are listening, they're
worried about re-election! It is, after all, the House of Representatives, they should be acting on behalf of their constituents, not their party
leaders. http://www.house.gov/house/MemStateSearch.shtml

Postulate what you want about the right or wrong of this bailout, you cannot deny the very real possibility that once the banks purge their books

of the toxic securities the credit freeze will still persist! What will they do with the money? There are no provisions attached to the money that

requires them to turn around and start lending again. A bailout does not guarantee an immediate, even eventual, thawing of the credit freeze

(anytime soon).

I had several contacts email me in response to my forwarded message. One shared their personal letter with me, others shared links and info.
Below are some of their inputs.

Some Links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds&eurl (Great satirical evaluation of the bailout, proposed solution follows)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv6rQ0U01Yc&feature=related (Ron Paul challenges on lessons NOT LEARNED Bernanke)

Exerpt

"Conflict of interest??? Corruption????? AIG's number 1 trading partner was Goldman Sachs, they got bailed out (while Lehman brothers did not), by Henry Paulson (X-Goldman Sachs CEO worth 700 million - most probably in goldman sachs stock), and the only other economist on the deal was another goldman sachs exec (also highly invested) (and both guys responsible for this mess).

And a few days ago Warren Buffet invests 5 billion in Goldman Sachs. Yesterday he freaked out on Congress and said that if they dont pass the bailout plan , they will cause the worse financial disaster in nations history. (once they pass it, he gets waaaay richer). There is a huge transfer of wealth going on, and power grab going to the ultra elite.

And the middle class taxpayer will have to pay for this. and in more ways than taxes....the Federal Reserve is printing money like crazy right now (inflation)...which makes the middle class much much poorer."

Another

"Apparently , Japan's recession was prolonged by the government subsidizing their banks."

And a letter:

> RE:     Please stop this bailout!
>
>    The current credit freeze is likely due to Wall Street's hope of a
>    bailout; bankers will not sell their lousy assets for 20 cents on
>    the dollar if the government might pay 30, 50, or 80 cents.
>
>    Please send them the message that the Bailout is not going to
>    happen so they will find market-based solutions.
>
>    Talk of Armageddon, is simply ridiculous scare-mongering. If
>    financial institutions cannot make productive loans, a profit
>    opportunity exists for someone else. This might not happen
>    instantly, but it will happen.
>
>    The obvious alternative to a bailout is letting troubled financial
>    institutions declare bankruptcy. Bankruptcy means that
>    shareholders typically get wiped out and the creditors own the
>    company.
>
>    Bankruptcy does not mean the company disappears; it is just owned
>    by someone new (as has occurred with several airlines). Bankruptcy
>    punishes those who took excessive risks while preserving those
>    aspects of a businesses that remain profitable.
>
>    In contrast, a bailout transfers enormous wealth from taxpayers to
>    those who knowingly engaged in risky subprime lending. Thus, the
>    bailout encourages companies to take large, imprudent risks and
>    count on getting bailed out by government. This "moral hazard"
>    generates enormous distortions in an economy's allocation of its
>    financial resources.
>
>    If the bailout goes thru it will send a message to the markets to
>    take unreasonable risk because the govt will be there to bail them
>    out to socialize the losses if they fail. Not allowing poor run
>    companies to fail will make our overall markets weak.
>
>    PLEASE STOP THIS BAILOUT!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#202

From: "sunsurfh2o" <sunsurfh2o@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:00 am
Subject: Re: Riding this weekend

sunsurfh2o

Offline

I heard on the radio today that they are going to do a prescribed burn up there starting tomorrow. Any ideas on how long it will last and how it might affect access to the area?

Forest Service to Begin Prescribed Burning On the West Plateau

Kernville, CA., September 26, 2008... Fire crews plan to begin ignitions within the West Plateau prescribed fire project commencing October 1, 2008.

The project area is located near Big Meadow and Cannell Meadow, approximately 20 miles northeast of Kernville. Between 500 to 1,000 acres are scheduled for burning this year, as part of an ongoing prescribed burning program.

The objective of this prescribed burn is to re-introduce fire to its natural role in the forest under a controlled setting. The prescribed fire will reduce fuels and improve wildlife habitat.

Firefighters will use hand-held drip torches to ignite the prescribed fire. Fire Managers will continue to work closely with the San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District to monitor smoke production and minimize impacts to the community.

Smoke from the burn operation will be visible from most of the communities around Lake Isabella and the Kennedy Meadows area. Temporary road and trail closures may occur in and near the vicinity of the prescribed burn operations.

Prescribed burn efforts will continue as weather conditions, resources and air quality permit.

For further information, please contact Jim Yearwood, Fuels Management Officer, at the Kernville Ranger Station, (760) 376-3781, extension 622.

--- In KRV-MTB@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Thomas" <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I'm up for the JO/WR/DF ride on Sunday.
>
> Lynette is up for some portion of that ride if Kristen is interested in
> riding.
>
> We got rain! I'm sure by Sunday it won't be noticeable down here by the lake
> but I'm sure cannel got more...
>
> -Chris
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gene Hacker genehacker@... wrote:
>
> > I have a friend coming up this weekend that is planning on riding the
> > Cannel on Saturday and JO/WR/DF on Sunday.
> >
> > If anyone is interested let me know and I can hook you guys up. There
> > is a private shuttle driver (limited) already arranged on Sat.
> >
> >
>

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#201

From: "Andrew Pernicano" <sunsurfh2o@...>
Date: Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:17 am
Subject: Fw: A 30 yr banker wants carte blanche with your money

sunsurfh2o

Offline

The Public Dese rves a Better Deal

From: Andrew Pernicano

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:15 AM

To: bob@...

Subject: Fw: A 30 yr banker wants carte blanche with your money

I myself am not in favor of this bailout as it presently stands. I think they need to slow it down and take measured steps. It's all too rushed and a load of fear mongering. Something doesn't smell right.

I'll be contacting my representative in the 22nd district today.

Andrew

From: hank paulson

Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:46 PM

To: sunsurfh2o@...

Subject: A 30 yr banker wants carte blanche with your money

A 30 yr banker wants 700 billion no questions, no oversight, to do with as he sees fit, and we're just going to give it to him? Only two years ago Hank Paulson was running Goldman Sachs. He's still part of the fraternity and he wants your tax dollars to bail out his buddies after their unscrupulous activity has all but bankrupted their companies. Let them fail, they've made their bed. What about all the lost jobs? At Goldman Sachs, for instance, employee's average salaries are $600,000--that figure includes secretaries! I'm sure they'll be alright between now and their next job. Reckless behavior has it's consequences, why give them a get out of jail free card? We're sending them a message that it is OK to play their high stakes wagers, over and over again because we are willing to subsidize their losses.

I would love to be able to find a buyer willing to pay 2006 prices for my home! Heck, I'd be happy if I could sell my house even at today's prices but no ones seems to be knocking on my door with an offer. If I could be so lucky! Why should banks receive a dollar more than the fair market value of their so-called assets? They should just be glad they found a buyer willing to buy at a time when prices are still falling through the floor! Defaults and foreclosures are flooding in at record levels, and that record will continue to climb. This proposed bailout does nothing to stem the losses that depress the market further and further every day.

Give us a real solution. Something we can get behind and see the positives for us, the investor.

Contrary to what the Bush administration would have you believe, we are not on the verge of Armageddon. Bush was quick to draw attention to the historic one-day drop in the stock market on Monday, and suggest the 700 billion that he was asking for a bailout was therefore a far better deal. I don't recall him saying anything about the near equally historic one-day gain (best in 6 years) the market saw Tuesday. The money doesn't just evaporate. Investors may pull their money back out and stick it in CDs for a while but they'll eventually want back in for larger gains.

It will be a protracted recession. Let the market take care of itself and we might get through it faster. Or at the very least, take the time to craft a credible bill that comes with more restrictions, oversight, and better game plan.

Pressure your congressman to vote NO on the current plan! Many of them are on the ballots for re-election in a little over a month and fear the repercussions of voting for a bailout that is widely unpopular with their constituents. Take a moment to write your congressman and let them know you want a better plan. Use the link below:

To look up your district and write your representative directly, go here: https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml

Sign a petition: petitions against a bailout

Read a few of the alternatives:

Fixing the Paulson Plan

How to Pay Less for Distressed Financial Assets

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#200

From: "Chris Thomas" <chris@...>
Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Riding this weekend

cnthomas

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I'm up for the JO/WR/DF ride on Sunday.

Lynette is up for some portion of that ride if Kristen is interested in riding.

We got rain! I'm sure by Sunday it won't be noticeable down here by the lake but I'm sure cannel got more...

-Chris

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gene Hacker <genehacker@...> wrote:

I have a friend coming up this weekend that is planning on riding the
Cannel on Saturday and JO/WR/DF on Sunday.

If anyone is interested let me know and I can hook you guys up. There
is a private shuttle driver (limited) already arranged on Sat.

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#199

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:16 pm
Subject: Riding this weekend

kiehacker

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I have a friend coming up this weekend that is planning on riding the
Cannel on Saturday and JO/WR/DF on Sunday.

If anyone is interested let me know and I can hook you guys up.  There
is a private shuttle  driver (limited) already arranged on Sat.

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#198

From: Gene Hacker <genehacker@...>
Date: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Just Outstanding and Unal Trail ride Friday 4pm

kiehacker

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Check out the Bionocon Kern valley gathering.  It was sweet last year
and not only is it free you even get free bbq one night in Keysville.



Mitch B wrote:
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> Stupid work!
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> I need to lose the 9-5 job and find something better... haven't been
> on my bike in a couple of weeks...
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> Anyone have any plans for rides during the fat tire fest?
>
> -Mitch
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> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:43:16 -0700
> Subject: [KRV-MTB] Just Outstanding and Unal Trail ride Friday 4pm
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> Kristin is riding tommarow and I am running shuttle. If anyone want to
> join on let me know.
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