Please view the pics under the "Shobukan" banner in Photos and you
will notice also pics of Cliff from Cincy Hombu dojo teaching class.
Kudos to Cliff-san and also thanks to Manny Sensei for posting the
pics and to a warm welcome to Cliff during his visit to see his son in
the military stationed in Texas. Thanks Manny-san. Please know that
he has a tournament in August that is an Annual event and is a
traditional tourney mostly of Shotokan stylist. I believe his sensei
from Japan will also be present. Enjoy!
Humbly,
Dwight
....has a new set of DVD's available and I can also send a video clip if anyone is interested. Just send me an email and I will forward the clip to you. cincinnatishotokan@...
Humbly Dwight Holley
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under the guidance of the Shobukan dojo in Killeen Tx and in Sept
a "World Shotokan Tournament" in Chicago. I will forward the info
available to me if you like via email. Drop me a note at:
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Humbly
Dwight Holley
Here is what I found on a Okano Sensei:
Okano Sensei, who founded Kenkojuku in 1941, was one of Funakoshi
Yoshitaka Sensei's (son of Funakoshi Gichin) closest students. Okano
Tomosaburo, Soke (Founder), Shotokan Okano-Ha Karate-Do Kenkojuku
which is based in Tokyo, Japan.
The link to this information is the following:
http://cehs.unl.edu/karate/shotoka.html
--- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Dwight Holley" <cincinnatishotokan@y...>
wrote:
>
> I know who he is but do you? I would challenge you to research in
> your spare time who this famous student of ?????? is and his claim
> to fame if you will in the Shotokan system. I am waiting??????
> Holley sensei
An interesting book if you enjoy kata analysis is the 'Five years One Kata' by Bill Burgar. He goes into great depth on Gojushiho and has some interesting interpretations.The Foreword is by Patrick McCarthy, Vince Morris and Rick Clark which I guess helps illustrate the quality of his research.
I have trained with bill, Vince and Rick and can confirm the effectiveness of these karateka in their areas of expertise... ;)
If you get a chance, worth a study..particularly in the early dan grades.
Malcolm
-----Original Message----- From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jhn_alderman Sent: 08 June 2005 15:00 To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [KOJF]Karate-Do, Gichin Funakoshi
--- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, Mantacorex5@a... wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had ever read this biography by the master > himself. I haven't read much of it yet but it looks to be really good and I would > recommend it to anyone that studies any Okinawan Karate or any related styles. > I'd also suggest reading his Twenty Guiding Principles of Karate, another > wonderful book. > ~Patrie
In my humble opinion My Way of Life by Funakoshi Sensei is a must read for any karate-ka, especially one who studies Shotokan. Talk about a humble man. Another book that mainly deals with Okinawan styles is Okinawan Karate by Mark Bishop. A very good book with lots of history of the arts of Okinawa. A book that I have just read is Shihan-Te. I cannot say it was a bad book since I gained by reading it. I just feel it to be somewhat unclear in certain areas and the techniques and application are very basic. I would love to hear of any other suggested books from others.
--- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, Mantacorex5@a... wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone had ever read this biography by the master
> himself. I haven't read much of it yet but it looks to be really good
and I would
> recommend it to anyone that studies any Okinawan Karate or any
related styles.
> I'd also suggest reading his Twenty Guiding Principles of Karate,
another
> wonderful book.
> ~Patrie
In my humble opinion My Way of Life by Funakoshi Sensei is a must read
for any karate-ka, especially one who studies Shotokan. Talk about a
humble man. Another book that mainly deals with Okinawan styles is
Okinawan Karate by Mark Bishop. A very good book with lots of history
of the arts of Okinawa. A book that I have just read is Shihan-Te. I
cannot say it was a bad book since I gained by reading it. I just feel
it to be somewhat unclear in certain areas and the techniques and
application are very basic. I would love to hear of any other suggested
books from others.
I have those two books as well. You will find that the kata are different to what the 'JKA' style clubs need you to perform these days and some of the names are different, such as Kwanku instead of Kanku. They are well worth reading though and a good cornerstone of any traditional karate practitioners library. Particularly if your style is Shotokan but even for others that stemmed from the same roots...
Malcolm
-----Original Message----- From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mantacorex5@... Sent: 06 June 2005 15:25 To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [KOJF]Karate-Do, Gichin Funakoshi
Yes, that is the book. Although I would also like to get two other books that I have seen by Funakoshi, Karate-Do Kyohan and Karate-Do Nyumon, but I will probably wait for a while to get those.
In a message dated 6/6/2005 8:39:57 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, malcolm.bates@... writes:
Hi Patrie
If this is the one karate-do-My Way of Life, then yes. I read it first in 1996 according to my study log. It is a book I encourage others to read to understand better about master Funakoshi and his attitudes. I found it a very 'human' story.
Yes, that is the book. Although I would also like to get two other books that I have seen by Funakoshi, Karate-Do Kyohan and Karate-Do Nyumon, but I will probably wait for a while to get those.
In a message dated 6/6/2005 8:39:57 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, malcolm.bates@... writes:
Hi Patrie
If this is the one karate-do-My Way of Life, then yes. I read it first in 1996 according to my study log. It is a book I encourage others to read to understand better about master Funakoshi and his attitudes. I found it a very 'human' story.
If this is the one karate-do-My Way of Life, then yes. I read it first in 1996 according to my study log. It is a book I encourage others to read to understand better about master Funakoshi and his attitudes. I found it a very 'human' story.
Regards
Malcolm
-----Original Message----- From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mantacorex5@... Sent: 04 June 2005 02:23 To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KOJF]Karate-Do, Gichin Funakoshi
I was wondering if anyone had ever read this biography by the master himself. I haven't read much of it yet but it looks to be really good and I would recommend it to anyone that studies any Okinawan Karate or any related styles. I'd also suggest reading his Twenty Guiding Principles of Karate, another wonderful book.
I have read it years ago and probably will re-read it again
shortly. As you may know I have written a book on karate-do and the
hidden secrets of the art. It is currently being edited and with
luck maybe at the publisher in a matter of weeks. I may send an
excerpt out soon and hope that I am good enough in the art that
people will consider buying it. Another book I have read that I
would recommend is "Moving Zen" by Mr. Nicol. One of my sensei he
talks about at the JKA headquarters who was being groomed to go the
the Philippines as a new teacher, Sasaki, Kunio sensei. I trained
under him in Manila, Philippines in 1975 and at the time he was a
6th dan under the JKA. The book is fascinating and gives a look at
the training at the JKA headquarters back in the 50's & 60's. I
would also recommend reading
"The Karate Dojo" by Peter Urban. He was a exceptional student of
Yamamoto and Yamaguchi,Gogen Sensei of Goju-Ryu. Though he was a
student of another Japanese karate-do system he annedotes and
stories are enlightening. Finally I would recommend "The Weaponless
Warrior" by the late great Richard Kim sensei. It will give you
some Okinawan historical stories passed down prior to karate's
popularity in Japan. Another great read. Enjoy and I look forward
to seeing some great discussions here. Humbly,Dwight Holley
I was wondering if anyone had ever read this biography by the master himself. I haven't read much of it yet but it looks to be really good and I would recommend it to anyone that studies any Okinawan Karate or any related styles. I'd also suggest reading his Twenty Guiding Principles of Karate, another wonderful book.
The date is set for the upcoming "Friendship International Karate
Tournament - 5th Shobukan Cup"
You are cordially invited. For more inforamation visit www.isska.com
or www.karateshobukan.com
Thanks
Manny
Thanks for the update on this.
I am just out here trying to learn also… but this is what this group is
all about… No one knows everything but some of us know some things…
but sincerely thank you.
From: Tim
[mailto:twendkata71@...] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:23 PM To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting
Kata Information
-From what I have read, Seisan is actually much older. Hiagoanna brought it back from his studies in China. That
would at least put it at just after or before the turn of the 20th
century. Hangetsu , I am not sure that O sensei Funakoshi
taught this in his original curriculum. From what I have been told
there was kata added later. Perhaps even from his influence and
freindship with Mabuni Kenwa. I am not sure. The story varies depending
who you talk to. Much of karate history is incomplete and sometimes
peoples memory is not so good. I just keep training and trying to be
the best that I can.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm"
<malcolm.bates@m...> wrote: > Hi Tim > Yep, as far as I understand you have it
right. :) Hangetsu as it stands > today with its off stance was only created
around the 1940's I believe. The > stance appears to be a cross between Zenkutsu
dachi and Sanchin dachi and > Fudo dachi. I wonder whether this was because
Fudo dachi, although appearing > significantly in master Funakoshi's work is
not as common in Shotokan > teaching these days.. at least not in the
clubs around here. > > The timing would seem about right as that was
when mawashi geri and some > other sports orientated techniques were also
introduced. > > Any thoughts on this? > Regards > > Malcolm > > ps. I am a Shotokan student originally but
tend to follow a broader syllabus > these days. > > -----Original Message----- > From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: 19 May 2005 04:45 > To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata
Information > > > -That is very good. It is good for students
to know the history of > kata. One note. Isn't the old name for
Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if > memory serves me right. Great job. > > > > > -- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey,
William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" > <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote: > > > > > > Saw this stuff and thought it was
interesting. Thought that the > Group might > > like to read it. It comes from the
website of KARATE UNION OF > AUSTRALIA. > > They have a pretty interesting Website
and it seems as it is very > tasteful. > > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html > > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html>
> > > > > > > > "The ultimate aim of Karate lies
not in victory or defeat, but in > the > > perfection of the character of its
participants." - Gichin > Funakoshi > > > > Heian > > > > The old name for the Haian Kata was
Pinan. These Kata were > developed by > > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to
the much longer main Kata of > > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up
however, they were based on > much older > > training forms called Channan, which had
their origin in China.
> > > > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan
too difficult for an > introductory > > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian
Shodan and Pinan Shodan to > Heian > > Nidan. > > > > For beginners, a somewhat simplified
version of Heian Shodan was > introduced, > > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is
most often used for 9th > Kyu > > gradings as a "stepping-stone"
to Heian Shodan. > > > > Tekki > > > > The Okinawan name for these was
Naihanchi and they are directly > taken from > > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is
one, one of the main > training forms > > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu.
It was on Okinawa that the > Kata was > > split into three separate sections that
we now call Tekki Shodan, > Nidan and > > Sandan. > > > > The name means "Iron Horse".
The Kiba-dachi stance used > exclusively in these > > Kata is the main training stance of
Northern Shaolin Tiger Style > of Wu-Shu. > > > > The Tekki Kata we know and practise
today are as follows.... > > > > Bassai > > > > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which > sub-style > > we are not sure. They do however, have
strong Tiger Style > characteristics. > > > > The name used on Okinawa
was "Passai" and it translates > as "Capture the > > Fortress". > > > > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes
the capture of the > fortress and > > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get
out again. > > > > Kanku > > > > The Kanku Kata were taught to the
Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang > Fu - > > Military Attaché to Okinawa
in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying > his name is > > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name
for these Kata. > > > > Master Funakoshi changed the name to
Kanku which means "to view > the sky". > > > > Jion > > > > This is the classic
"mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with > the "Ming" > > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was
also named Jion-Ji by the > Japanese but > > the literal translation of the Kanji is
"to love the sound" (of > Shaolin). > > > > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the
above relating to Jion > apply here > > too. The name translates to "love
of truth > > > > Chinte > > > > This Kata is one of the older ones and
it's salute at the > beginning betrays > > its Wutang origin. The name translates
to "to restore calm" or "to > establish > > peace". > > > > The final moves of this Kata are
supposed to represent the ocean > waves > > disappearing into the dry sand on the
beach just as your enemies > would > > vanish before you if you master these
techniques. > > > > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > Another Shaolin classic. The name means
"ten hands". If you master > this > > Kata, your enemies will feel as though
you had ten hands > > > > Empi > > > > A classic white crane style Kata brought
to Okinawa in 1644 by > Military > > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was
names after him hence its > Okinawan > > name of "Wanshu". This
translates to "excellent or incredible > arms" and > > perhaps this explains the lovely hand
techniques this Kata > contains. > > > > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu
must have been very good > with his > > hands. > > > > Hangetsu > > > > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us
through Master Itosu's > training in > > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is
named after the third Chinese > Zen > > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given
to it by Master Funakoshi, > means > > "half moon" - a description of
the stance. > > > > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style
originally taught on > Okinawa by > > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to
demonstrate the power > of "Ki" and > > the name means "to overcome using
power" (of Ki). > > > > Unsu > > > > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki.
Where he trained is not > known but > > the strong Chinese influences in this
Kata suggest it was > certainly in > > Mainland China. > > > > The name used on Okinawa
is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - > even if > > your enemies surround you like a cloud,
you will surely defeat > them if you > > master Unsu. > > > > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one
is thought to have its > origins in one > > of the Dragon sub-styles. > > > > The name translates to "the twenty
four steps". The form they are > taken from > > is called "Kaisan". The old
name was "Neseishi". > > > > Gojushiho > > > > These Kata are a departure from the norm
as they have their origin > in a > > Southern Shaolin Style called
"Phonexi Eye". The form they are > taken from is > > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was > changed to > > Gojushiho - "the fifty four
steps". > > > > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems
that the Japanese knew it > long > > before Master Funakoshi introduced
Okinawan Karate into Japan.
> There is even > > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu,
the Sun Goddess. > > > > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and
could not admire herself > and so went > > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in
darkness. At last the > other Gods > > decided something must be done so they
sent a great warrior to > perform a > > "war dance" outside her cave. > > > > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became
curious and came out of the > cave. The > > "war dance" was reputed to be
Meikyo. > > > > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the
soul". The old name for Meikyo > was Rohai > > and this is now coming back into use. > > > > > > > > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > > > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin.
The old name was Wanduan and > the name > > translates to "sword arm".
Using these techniques, your enemies > will think > > your arm is a sword. > > > > > > > > Gankaku > > > > Yet another White Crane form, this time
taught by Master Ching- To, > attaché > > to Okinawa
from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named > it in his > > honor "Chinto". > > > > Master Funakoshi later renamed it
Gankaku (the crane on a rock). > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Bill Ramsey > > > > > > > > > > > > SSG William J. Ramsey > > > > III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > > > > Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > > > > Systems Administrator (P) > > > > Information Management Officer (P) > > > > Information Assurance Security Officer
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-- Didn't O sensei Funakoshi's son change some of the Shotokan
methods after his father passed away? I am sure Nakayama had his
influence as well. This is to be said of many of the modern masters.
In other factions of Shotokan masters have changed kata. Master
Kanazawa's kata look slightly different to the JKA versions. The
Shotokan kata taught by the Ryobukai are different as well. If you
look at the way Funakoshi taught kata you will see that very few
sensei now teach them the way that he originally taught them to his
students at the old Shotokan.
- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm" <malcolm.bates@m...> wrote:
> I agree, Seisan has been around a long time, its the current
hangetsu
> version that is relatively new, IMO.
>
> Funakoshi sensei did have Hangetsu in his teachings as he has it
in his book
> Karate-do Kyohan and I think this was published in about 1932 in
the old
> form. The one I have was in 1973 but this is a reprint. His first
version
> was published in 1922.
>
> You will note that he refers to Front Stance in the kata and not
Hangetsu
> stance. I think the new stance was created as part of the
Nakayama sports
> influence around the mid 1940's but as you say history is not that
well
> documented and is variable depending on who you talk to..
>
> Malcolm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tim
> Sent: 20 May 2005 19:23
> To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information
>
>
> -From what I have read, Seisan is actually much older. Hiagoanna
> brought it back from his studies in China. That would at least put
> it at just after or before the turn of the 20th century.
> Hangetsu , I am not sure that O sensei Funakoshi taught this in
his
> original curriculum. From what I have been told there was kata
added
> later. Perhaps even from his influence and freindship with Mabuni
> Kenwa. I am not sure. The story varies depending who you talk to.
> Much of karate history is incomplete and sometimes peoples memory
is
> not so good. I just keep training and trying to be the best that I
> can.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm" <malcolm.bates@m...> wrote:
> > Hi Tim
> > Yep, as far as I understand you have it right. :) Hangetsu as it
> stands
> > today with its off stance was only created around the 1940's I
> believe. The
> > stance appears to be a cross between Zenkutsu dachi and Sanchin
> dachi and
> > Fudo dachi. I wonder whether this was because Fudo dachi,
although
> appearing
> > significantly in master Funakoshi's work is not as common in
> Shotokan
> > teaching these days.. at least not in the clubs around here.
> >
> > The timing would seem about right as that was when mawashi geri
> and some
> > other sports orientated techniques were also introduced.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?
> > Regards
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> > ps. I am a Shotokan student originally but tend to follow a
> broader syllabus
> > these days.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Tim
> > Sent: 19 May 2005 04:45
> > To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information
> >
> >
> > -That is very good. It is good for students to know the history
of
> > kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is
if
> > memory serves me right. Great job.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps
> CSES"
> > <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that
the
> > Group might
> > > like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF
> > AUSTRALIA.
> > > They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is
> very
> > tasteful.
> > > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html
> > > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but
> in
> > the
> > > perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin
> > Funakoshi
> > >
> > > Heian
> > >
> > > The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were
> > developed by
> > > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main
Kata
> of
> > > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based
on
> > much older
> > > training forms called Channan, which had their origin in
China.
> > >
> > > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an
> > introductory
> > > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan
Shodan
> to
> > Heian
> > > Nidan.
> > >
> > > For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan
was
> > introduced,
> > > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for
9th
> > Kyu
> > > gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan.
> > >
> > > Tekki
> > >
> > > The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are
directly
> > taken from
> > > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main
> > training forms
> > > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that
> the
> > Kata was
> > > split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki
> Shodan,
> > Nidan and
> > > Sandan.
> > >
> > > The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used
> > exclusively in these
> > > Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger
Style
> > of Wu-Shu.
> > >
> > > The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows....
> > >
> > > Bassai
> > >
> > > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from
> which
> > sub-style
> > > we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style
> > characteristics.
> > >
> > > The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates
> > as "Capture the
> > > Fortress".
> > >
> > > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the
> > fortress and
> > > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again.
> > >
> > > Kanku
> > >
> > > The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang
> Shang
> > Fu -
> > > Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of
saying
> > his name is
> > > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata.
> > >
> > > Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to
view
> > the sky".
> > >
> > > Jion
> > >
> > > This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with
> > the "Ming"
> > > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the
> > Japanese but
> > > the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound"
(of
> > Shaolin).
> > >
> > > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion
> > apply here
> > > too. The name translates to "love of truth
> > >
> > > Chinte
> > >
> > > This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the
> > beginning betrays
> > > its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm"
> or "to
> > establish
> > > peace".
> > >
> > > The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the
ocean
> > waves
> > > disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your
enemies
> > would
> > > vanish before you if you master these techniques.
> > >
> > > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you
> master
> > this
> > > Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands
> > >
> > > Empi
> > >
> > > A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by
> > Military
> > > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence
its
> > Okinawan
> > > name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible
> > arms" and
> > > perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata
> > contains.
> > >
> > > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good
> > with his
> > > hands.
> > >
> > > Hangetsu
> > >
> > > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's
> > training in
> > > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third
> Chinese
> > Zen
> > > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master
> Funakoshi,
> > means
> > > "half moon" - a description of the stance.
> > >
> > > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on
> > Okinawa by
> > > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power
> > of "Ki" and
> > > the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki).
> > >
> > > Unsu
> > >
> > > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is
not
> > known but
> > > the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was
> > certainly in
> > > Mainland China.
> > >
> > > The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud
> defence" -
> > even if
> > > your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat
> > them if you
> > > master Unsu.
> > >
> > > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its
> > origins in one
> > > of the Dragon sub-styles.
> > >
> > > The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they
> are
> > taken from
> > > is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi".
> > >
> > > Gojushiho
> > >
> > > These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their
> origin
> > in a
> > > Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are
> > taken from is
> > > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this
was
> > changed to
> > > Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps".
> > >
> > > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese
knew
> it
> > long
> > > before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan.
> > There is even
> > > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess.
> > >
> > > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire
herself
> > and so went
> > > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the
> > other Gods
> > > decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to
> > perform a
> > > "war dance" outside her cave.
> > >
> > > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the
> > cave. The
> > > "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo.
> > >
> > > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for
> Meikyo
> > was Rohai
> > > and this is now coming back into use.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> > >
> > > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan
> and
> > the name
> > > translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your
enemies
> > will think
> > > your arm is a sword.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gankaku
> > >
> > > Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-
> To,
> > attaché
> > > to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans
> named
> > it in his
> > > honor "Chinto".
> > >
> > > Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a
rock).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > >
> > > Bill Ramsey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SSG William J. Ramsey
> > >
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I agree, Seisan has been around a long time, its the current hangetsu version that is relatively new, IMO.
Funakoshi sensei did have Hangetsu in his teachings as he has it in his book Karate-do Kyohan and I think this was published in about 1932 in the old form. The one I have was in 1973 but this is a reprint. His first version was published in 1922.
You will note that he refers to Front Stance in the kata and not Hangetsu stance. I think the new stance was created as part of the Nakayama sports influence around the mid 1940's but as you say history is not that well documented and is variable depending on who you talk to..
Malcolm
-----Original Message----- From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 20 May 2005 19:23 To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information
-From what I have read, Seisan is actually much older. Hiagoanna brought it back from his studies in China. That would at least put it at just after or before the turn of the 20th century. Hangetsu , I am not sure that O sensei Funakoshi taught this in his original curriculum. From what I have been told there was kata added later. Perhaps even from his influence and freindship with Mabuni Kenwa. I am not sure. The story varies depending who you talk to. Much of karate history is incomplete and sometimes peoples memory is not so good. I just keep training and trying to be the best that I can.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm" <malcolm.bates@m...> wrote: > Hi Tim > Yep, as far as I understand you have it right. :) Hangetsu as it stands > today with its off stance was only created around the 1940's I believe. The > stance appears to be a cross between Zenkutsu dachi and Sanchin dachi and > Fudo dachi. I wonder whether this was because Fudo dachi, although appearing > significantly in master Funakoshi's work is not as common in Shotokan > teaching these days.. at least not in the clubs around here. > > The timing would seem about right as that was when mawashi geri and some > other sports orientated techniques were also introduced. > > Any thoughts on this? > Regards > > Malcolm > > ps. I am a Shotokan student originally but tend to follow a broader syllabus > these days. > > -----Original Message----- > From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: 19 May 2005 04:45 > To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information > > > -That is very good. It is good for students to know the history of > kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if > memory serves me right. Great job. > > > > > -- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" > <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote: > > > > > > Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the > Group might > > like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF > AUSTRALIA. > > They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very > tasteful. > > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html > > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html> > > > > > > > > "The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in > the > > perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin > Funakoshi > > > > Heian > > > > The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were > developed by > > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of > > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on > much older > > training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China. > > > > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an > introductory > > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to > Heian > > Nidan. > > > > For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was > introduced, > > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th > Kyu > > gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan. > > > > Tekki > > > > The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly > taken from > > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main > training forms > > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the > Kata was > > split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, > Nidan and > > Sandan. > > > > The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used > exclusively in these > > Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style > of Wu-Shu. > > > > The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows.... > > > > Bassai > > > > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which > sub-style > > we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style > characteristics. > > > > The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates > as "Capture the > > Fortress". > > > > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the > fortress and > > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again. > > > > Kanku > > > > The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang > Fu - > > Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying > his name is > > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata. > > > > Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view > the sky". > > > > Jion > > > > This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with > the "Ming" > > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the > Japanese but > > the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of > Shaolin). > > > > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion > apply here > > too. The name translates to "love of truth > > > > Chinte > > > > This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the > beginning betrays > > its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to > establish > > peace". > > > > The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean > waves > > disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies > would > > vanish before you if you master these techniques. > > > > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master > this > > Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands > > > > Empi > > > > A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by > Military > > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its > Okinawan > > name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible > arms" and > > perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata > contains. > > > > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good > with his > > hands. > > > > Hangetsu > > > > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's > training in > > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese > Zen > > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi, > means > > "half moon" - a description of the stance. > > > > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on > Okinawa by > > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power > of "Ki" and > > the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki). > > > > Unsu > > > > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not > known but > > the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was > certainly in > > Mainland China. > > > > The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - > even if > > your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat > them if you > > master Unsu. > > > > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its > origins in one > > of the Dragon sub-styles. > > > > The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are > taken from > > is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi". > > > > Gojushiho > > > > These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin > in a > > Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are > taken from is > > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was > changed to > > Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps". > > > > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it > long > > before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. > There is even > > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess. > > > > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself > and so went > > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the > other Gods > > decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to > perform a > > "war dance" outside her cave. > > > > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the > cave. The > > "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo. > > > > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo > was Rohai > > and this is now coming back into use. > > > > > > > > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > > > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and > the name > > translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies > will think > > your arm is a sword. > > > > > > > > Gankaku > > > > Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching- To, > attaché > > to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named > it in his > > honor "Chinto". > > > > Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock). > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Bill Ramsey > > > > > > > > > > > > SSG William J. Ramsey > > > > III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > > > > Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > > > > Systems Administrator (P) > > > > Information Management Officer (P) > > > > Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT) > > > > Phone: (254) 287-4590 > > > > Fax: (254) 287-9640 > > > > E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@u...> william.ramsey1@u... > > > > > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KOJF/ > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > KOJF-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:KOJF-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
-From what I have read, Seisan is actually much older. Hiagoanna
brought it back from his studies in China. That would at least put
it at just after or before the turn of the 20th century.
Hangetsu , I am not sure that O sensei Funakoshi taught this in his
original curriculum. From what I have been told there was kata added
later. Perhaps even from his influence and freindship with Mabuni
Kenwa. I am not sure. The story varies depending who you talk to.
Much of karate history is incomplete and sometimes peoples memory is
not so good. I just keep training and trying to be the best that I
can.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm" <malcolm.bates@m...> wrote:
> Hi Tim
> Yep, as far as I understand you have it right. :) Hangetsu as it
stands
> today with its off stance was only created around the 1940's I
believe. The
> stance appears to be a cross between Zenkutsu dachi and Sanchin
dachi and
> Fudo dachi. I wonder whether this was because Fudo dachi, although
appearing
> significantly in master Funakoshi's work is not as common in
Shotokan
> teaching these days.. at least not in the clubs around here.
>
> The timing would seem about right as that was when mawashi geri
and some
> other sports orientated techniques were also introduced.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
> Regards
>
> Malcolm
>
> ps. I am a Shotokan student originally but tend to follow a
broader syllabus
> these days.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tim
> Sent: 19 May 2005 04:45
> To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information
>
>
> -That is very good. It is good for students to know the history of
> kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if
> memory serves me right. Great job.
>
>
>
>
> -- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps
CSES"
> <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the
> Group might
> > like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF
> AUSTRALIA.
> > They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is
very
> tasteful.
> > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html
> > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html>
> >
> >
> >
> > "The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but
in
> the
> > perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin
> Funakoshi
> >
> > Heian
> >
> > The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were
> developed by
> > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata
of
> > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on
> much older
> > training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China.
> >
> > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an
> introductory
> > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan
to
> Heian
> > Nidan.
> >
> > For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was
> introduced,
> > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th
> Kyu
> > gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan.
> >
> > Tekki
> >
> > The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly
> taken from
> > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main
> training forms
> > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that
the
> Kata was
> > split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki
Shodan,
> Nidan and
> > Sandan.
> >
> > The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used
> exclusively in these
> > Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style
> of Wu-Shu.
> >
> > The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows....
> >
> > Bassai
> >
> > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from
which
> sub-style
> > we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style
> characteristics.
> >
> > The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates
> as "Capture the
> > Fortress".
> >
> > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the
> fortress and
> > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again.
> >
> > Kanku
> >
> > The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang
Shang
> Fu -
> > Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying
> his name is
> > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata.
> >
> > Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view
> the sky".
> >
> > Jion
> >
> > This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with
> the "Ming"
> > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the
> Japanese but
> > the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of
> Shaolin).
> >
> > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion
> apply here
> > too. The name translates to "love of truth
> >
> > Chinte
> >
> > This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the
> beginning betrays
> > its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm"
or "to
> establish
> > peace".
> >
> > The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean
> waves
> > disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies
> would
> > vanish before you if you master these techniques.
> >
> > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you
master
> this
> > Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands
> >
> > Empi
> >
> > A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by
> Military
> > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its
> Okinawan
> > name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible
> arms" and
> > perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata
> contains.
> >
> > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good
> with his
> > hands.
> >
> > Hangetsu
> >
> > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's
> training in
> > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third
Chinese
> Zen
> > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master
Funakoshi,
> means
> > "half moon" - a description of the stance.
> >
> > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on
> Okinawa by
> > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power
> of "Ki" and
> > the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki).
> >
> > Unsu
> >
> > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not
> known but
> > the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was
> certainly in
> > Mainland China.
> >
> > The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud
defence" -
> even if
> > your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat
> them if you
> > master Unsu.
> >
> > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its
> origins in one
> > of the Dragon sub-styles.
> >
> > The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they
are
> taken from
> > is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi".
> >
> > Gojushiho
> >
> > These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their
origin
> in a
> > Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are
> taken from is
> > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was
> changed to
> > Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps".
> >
> > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew
it
> long
> > before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan.
> There is even
> > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess.
> >
> > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself
> and so went
> > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the
> other Gods
> > decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to
> perform a
> > "war dance" outside her cave.
> >
> > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the
> cave. The
> > "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo.
> >
> > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for
Meikyo
> was Rohai
> > and this is now coming back into use.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
> >
> > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan
and
> the name
> > translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies
> will think
> > your arm is a sword.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gankaku
> >
> > Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-
To,
> attaché
> > to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans
named
> it in his
> > honor "Chinto".
> >
> > Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock).
> >
> >
> >
> > Blessings,
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> > Bill Ramsey
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-That is very good. It is good for students to know the history of kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if memory serves me right. Great job.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote: > > > Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the Group might > like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF AUSTRALIA. > They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very tasteful. > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html> > > > > "The ultimate aim of
Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the > perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin Funakoshi > > Heian > > The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were developed by > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on much older > training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China. > > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an introductory > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to Heian > Nidan. > > For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was introduced, > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th Kyu > gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan. > > Tekki > > The Okinawan name for these was
Naihanchi and they are directly taken from > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main training forms > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the Kata was > split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, Nidan and > Sandan. > > The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used exclusively in these > Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style of Wu-Shu. > > The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows.... > > Bassai > > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which sub-style > we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style characteristics. > > The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates as "Capture the > Fortress". > > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of
the fortress and > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again. > > Kanku > > The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang Fu - > Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying his name is > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata. > > Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view the sky". > > Jion > > This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with the "Ming" > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the Japanese but > the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of Shaolin). > > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion apply here > too. The name translates
to "love of truth > > Chinte > > This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the beginning betrays > its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to establish > peace". > > The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean waves > disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies would > vanish before you if you master these techniques. > > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master this > Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands > > Empi > > A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by Military > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its
Okinawan > name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible arms" and > perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata contains. > > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good with his > hands. > > Hangetsu > > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's training in > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese Zen > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi, means > "half moon" - a description of the stance. > > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on Okinawa by > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power of "Ki" and > the name means "to overcome using power" (of
Ki). > > Unsu > > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not known but > the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was certainly in > Mainland China. > > The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - even if > your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat them if you > master Unsu. > > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its origins in one > of the Dragon sub-styles. > > The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are taken from > is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi". > > Gojushiho > > These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin in a > Southern
Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are taken from is > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was changed to > Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps". > > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it long > before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. There is even > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess. > > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself and so went > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the other Gods > decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to perform a > "war dance" outside her cave. > > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the cave. The > "war dance"
was reputed to be Meikyo. > > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo was Rohai > and this is now coming back into use. > > > > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and the name > translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies will think > your arm is a sword. > > > > Gankaku > > Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-To, attaché > to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named it in his > honor "Chinto". > > Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock). > > > > Blessings, > > Bill Ramsey >
> > > > > SSG William J. Ramsey > > III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > > Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > > Systems Administrator (P) > > Information Management Officer (P) > > Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT) > > Phone: (254) 287-4590 > > Fax: (254) 287-9640 > > E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@u...> william.ramsey1@u...
Hi to everyone. I am new to the group I just want to say "nice to
meet you all". I have posted some pictures in the photo album
under "shobukan".
I have a question for the forum... I ask my students this: What is
Karate? and i get all kinds of answers. What is your most simple
answer? Please don't tell me is Empty Hands. Boxing is empty hands
too and no kicks.
I wait for some input. Remember children 6 to 55 want to know. I got
an answer and will share with you later... thanks
I would like to take this opportunity to invite everyone to the 5th
Shobukan Cup - Friendship International Karate Tournament in Killeen,
TX. Please visit this page... www.isska.com/TournamentInfo.com
Thanks
Sensei Manny
Yep, as far as I understand you have it right. :) Hangetsu as it stands today with its off stance was only created around the 1940's I believe. The stance appears to be a cross between Zenkutsu dachi and Sanchin dachi and Fudo dachi. I wonder whether this was because Fudo dachi, although appearing significantly in master Funakoshi's work is not as common in Shotokan teaching these days.. at least not in the clubs around here.
The timing would seem about right as that was when mawashi geri and some other sports orientated techniques were also introduced.
Any thoughts on this?
Regards
Malcolm
ps. I am a Shotokan student originally but tend to follow a broader syllabus these days.
-----Original Message----- From: KOJF@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KOJF@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 19 May 2005 04:45 To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KOJF] Re: Interesting Kata Information
-That is very good. It is good for students to know the history of kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if memory serves me right. Great job.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" <william.ramsey1@u...> wrote: > > > Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the Group might > like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF AUSTRALIA. > They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very tasteful. > The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html > <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html> > > > > "The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the > perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin Funakoshi > > Heian > > The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were developed by > Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of > Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on much older > training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China. > > Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an introductory > Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to Heian > Nidan. > > For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was introduced, > which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th Kyu > gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan. > > Tekki > > The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly taken from > the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main training forms > of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the Kata was > split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, Nidan and > Sandan. > > The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used exclusively in these > Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style of Wu-Shu. > > The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows.... > > Bassai > > Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which sub-style > we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style characteristics. > > The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates as "Capture the > Fortress". > > We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the fortress and > Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again. > > Kanku > > The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang Fu - > Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying his name is > Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata. > > Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view the sky". > > Jion > > This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with the "Ming" > salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the Japanese but > the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of Shaolin). > > Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion apply here > too. The name translates to "love of truth > > Chinte > > This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the beginning betrays > its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to establish > peace". > > The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean waves > disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies would > vanish before you if you master these techniques. > > Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master this > Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands > > Empi > > A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by Military > Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its Okinawan > name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible arms" and > perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata contains. > > It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good with his > hands. > > Hangetsu > > This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's training in > Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese Zen > Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi, means > "half moon" - a description of the stance. > > Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on Okinawa by > Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power of "Ki" and > the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki). > > Unsu > > Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not known but > the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was certainly in > Mainland China. > > The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - even if > your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat them if you > master Unsu. > > Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its origins in one > of the Dragon sub-styles. > > The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are taken from > is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi". > > Gojushiho > > These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin in a > Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are taken from is > called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was changed to > Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps". > > Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it long > before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. There is even > a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess. > > It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself and so went > into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the other Gods > decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to perform a > "war dance" outside her cave. > > Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the cave. The > "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo. > > Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo was Rohai > and this is now coming back into use. > > > > Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > > Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and the name > translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies will think > your arm is a sword. > > > > Gankaku > > Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-To, attaché > to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named it in his > honor "Chinto". > > Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock). > > > > Blessings, > > Bill Ramsey > > > > > > SSG William J. Ramsey > > III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > > Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > > Systems Administrator (P) > > Information Management Officer (P) > > Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT) > > Phone: (254) 287-4590 > > Fax: (254) 287-9640 > > E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@u...> william.ramsey1@u...
-That is very good. It is good for students to know the history of
kata. One note. Isn't the old name for Hangetsu,Seisan? That is if
memory serves me right. Great job.
-- In KOJF@yahoogroups.com, "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES"
<william.ramsey1@u...> wrote:
>
>
> Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the
Group might
> like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF
AUSTRALIA.
> They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very
tasteful.
> The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html
> <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html>
>
>
>
> "The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in
the
> perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin
Funakoshi
>
> Heian
>
> The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were
developed by
> Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of
> Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on
much older
> training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China.
>
> Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an
introductory
> Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to
Heian
> Nidan.
>
> For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was
introduced,
> which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th
Kyu
> gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan.
>
> Tekki
>
> The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly
taken from
> the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main
training forms
> of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the
Kata was
> split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan,
Nidan and
> Sandan.
>
> The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used
exclusively in these
> Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style
of Wu-Shu.
>
> The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows....
>
> Bassai
>
> Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which
sub-style
> we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style
characteristics.
>
> The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates
as "Capture the
> Fortress".
>
> We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the
fortress and
> Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again.
>
> Kanku
>
> The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang
Fu -
> Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying
his name is
> Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata.
>
> Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view
the sky".
>
> Jion
>
> This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with
the "Ming"
> salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the
Japanese but
> the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of
Shaolin).
>
> Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion
apply here
> too. The name translates to "love of truth
>
> Chinte
>
> This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the
beginning betrays
> its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to
establish
> peace".
>
> The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean
waves
> disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies
would
> vanish before you if you master these techniques.
>
> Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master
this
> Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands
>
> Empi
>
> A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by
Military
> Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its
Okinawan
> name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible
arms" and
> perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata
contains.
>
> It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good
with his
> hands.
>
> Hangetsu
>
> This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's
training in
> Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese
Zen
> Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi,
means
> "half moon" - a description of the stance.
>
> Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on
Okinawa by
> Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power
of "Ki" and
> the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki).
>
> Unsu
>
> Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not
known but
> the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was
certainly in
> Mainland China.
>
> The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" -
even if
> your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat
them if you
> master Unsu.
>
> Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its
origins in one
> of the Dragon sub-styles.
>
> The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are
taken from
> is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi".
>
> Gojushiho
>
> These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin
in a
> Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are
taken from is
> called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was
changed to
> Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps".
>
> Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it
long
> before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan.
There is even
> a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess.
>
> It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself
and so went
> into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the
other Gods
> decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to
perform a
> "war dance" outside her cave.
>
> Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the
cave. The
> "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo.
>
> Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo
was Rohai
> and this is now coming back into use.
>
>
>
> Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm>
>
> Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and
the name
> translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies
will think
> your arm is a sword.
>
>
>
> Gankaku
>
> Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-To,
attaché
> to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named
it in his
> honor "Chinto".
>
> Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock).
>
>
>
> Blessings,
>
> Bill Ramsey
>
>
>
>
>
> SSG William J. Ramsey
>
> III Corps Staff Engineer Section /
>
> Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade
>
> Systems Administrator (P)
>
> Information Management Officer (P)
>
> Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT)
>
> Phone: (254) 287-4590
>
> Fax: (254) 287-9640
>
> E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@u...> william.ramsey1@u...
very nice.....it is always good to get the history too many people and styles fail to see the interest or importance of the history!
>From: "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" <william.ramsey1@...> >Reply-To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com >To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [KOJF] Interesting Kata Information >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:37:21 -0500 > > > >Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the Group might >like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF AUSTRALIA. >They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very tasteful. >The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html ><http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html> > > > >"The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the >perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin
Funakoshi > >Heian > >The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were developed by >Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of >Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on much older >training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China. > >Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an introductory >Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to Heian >Nidan. > >For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was introduced, >which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th Kyu >gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan. > >Tekki > >The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly taken from >the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main training forms >of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It
was on Okinawa that the Kata was >split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, Nidan and >Sandan. > >The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used exclusively in these >Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style of Wu-Shu. > >The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows.... > >Bassai > >Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which sub-style >we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style characteristics. > >The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates as "Capture the >Fortress". > >We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the fortress and >Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again. > >Kanku > >The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang Fu - >Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of
saying his name is >Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata. > >Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view the sky". > >Jion > >This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with the "Ming" >salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the Japanese but >the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of Shaolin). > >Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion apply here >too. The name translates to "love of truth > >Chinte > >This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the beginning betrays >its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to establish >peace". > >The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean waves >disappearing into the dry sand on the beach
just as your enemies would >vanish before you if you master these techniques. > >Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master this >Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands > >Empi > >A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by Military >Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its Okinawan >name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible arms" and >perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata contains. > >It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good with his >hands. > >Hangetsu > >This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's training in >Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese Zen >Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it
by Master Funakoshi, means >"half moon" - a description of the stance. > >Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on Okinawa by >Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power of "Ki" and >the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki). > >Unsu > >Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not known but >the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was certainly in >Mainland China. > >The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - even if >your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat them if you >master Unsu. > >Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its origins in one >of the Dragon
sub-styles. > >The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are taken from >is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi". > >Gojushiho > >These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin in a >Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are taken from is >called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was changed to >Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps". > >Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it long >before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. There is even >a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess. > >It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself and so went >into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the other Gods >decided something must be done
so they sent a great warrior to perform a >"war dance" outside her cave. > >Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the cave. The >"war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo. > >Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo was Rohai >and this is now coming back into use. > > > >Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and the name >translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies will think >your arm is a sword. > > > >Gankaku > >Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-To, attaché >to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named it in his >honor "Chinto". > >Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a
rock). > > > >Blessings, > >Bill Ramsey > > > > > >SSG William J. Ramsey > >III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > >Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > >Systems Administrator (P) > >Information Management Officer (P) > >Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT) > >Phone: (254) 287-4590 > >Fax: (254) 287-9640 > >E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@...> william.ramsey1@... > > > ><< image001.jpg >>
very nice.....it is always good to get the history too many people and styles fail to see the interest or importance of the history!
>From: "Ramsey, William J SSG-- III Corps CSES" <william.ramsey1@...> >Reply-To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com >To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [KOJF] Interesting Kata Information >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:37:21 -0500 > > > >Saw this stuff and thought it was interesting. Thought that the Group might >like to read it. It comes from the website of KARATE UNION OF AUSTRALIA. >They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is very tasteful. >The URL is http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html ><http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html> > > > >"The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the >perfection of the character of its participants." - Gichin Funakoshi > >Heian > >The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were developed by >Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata of >Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on much older >training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China. > >Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for an introductory >Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan to Heian >Nidan. > >For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan was introduced, >which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for 9th Kyu >gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan. > >Tekki > >The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are directly taken from >the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the main training forms >of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the Kata was >split into three separate sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, Nidan and >Sandan. > >The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance used exclusively in these >Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin Tiger Style of Wu-Shu. > >The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows.... > >Bassai > >Again these Kata are from Northern Shaolin sources but from which sub-style >we are not sure. They do however, have strong Tiger Style characteristics. > >The name used on Okinawa was "Passai" and it translates as "Capture the >Fortress". > >We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the fortress and >Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again. > >Kanku > >The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang Shang Fu - >Military Attaché to Okinawa in 1724. The Okinawan way of saying his name is >Kushanku and this was the Okinawan name for these Kata. > >Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means "to view the sky". > >Jion > >This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata, complete with the "Ming" >salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also named Jion-Ji by the Japanese but >the literal translation of the Kanji is "to love the sound" (of Shaolin). > >Ji-In <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to Jion apply here >too. The name translates to "love of truth > >Chinte > >This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the beginning betrays >its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore calm" or "to establish >peace". > >The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the ocean waves >disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies would >vanish before you if you master these techniques. > >Jutte (Jitte) <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten hands". If you master this >Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had ten hands > >Empi > >A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by Military >Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The Kata was names after him hence its Okinawan >name of "Wanshu". This translates to "excellent or incredible arms" and >perhaps this explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata contains. > >It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very good with his >hands. > >Hangetsu > >This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's training in >Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese Zen >Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi, means >"half moon" - a description of the stance. > >Sochin <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on Okinawa by >Master Aragaki. This Kata is supposed to demonstrate the power of "Ki" and >the name means "to overcome using power" (of Ki). > >Unsu > >Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is not known but >the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was certainly in >Mainland China. > >The name used on Okinawa is "Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - even if >your enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat them if you >master Unsu. > >Nijushiho <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have its origins in one >of the Dragon sub-styles. > >The name translates to "the twenty four steps". The form they are taken from >is called "Kaisan". The old name was "Neseishi". > >Gojushiho > >These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their origin in a >Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form they are taken from is >called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa was "Useishi" but this was changed to >Gojushiho - "the fifty four steps". > >Meikyo <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese knew it long >before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. There is even >a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess. > >It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire herself and so went >into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last the other Gods >decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to perform a >"war dance" outside her cave. > >Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of the cave. The >"war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo. > >Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old name for Meikyo was Rohai >and this is now coming back into use. > > > >Wankan <http://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/kata.htm> > >Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was Wanduan and the name >translates to "sword arm". Using these techniques, your enemies will think >your arm is a sword. > > > >Gankaku > >Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master Ching-To, attaché >to Okinawa from the Ming court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named it in his >honor "Chinto". > >Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane on a rock). > > > >Blessings, > >Bill Ramsey > > > > > >SSG William J. Ramsey > >III Corps Staff Engineer Section / > >Det 1, 420th Engineer Brigade > >Systems Administrator (P) > >Information Management Officer (P) > >Information Assurance Security Officer (ALT) > >Phone: (254) 287-4590 > >Fax: (254) 287-9640 > >E-Mail: <mailto:william.ramsey1@...> william.ramsey1@... > > > ><< image001.jpg >>
Saw this stuff and
thought it was interesting. Thought that the Group might like to read it. It
comes from the website of KARATE UNION
OF AUSTRALIA. They have a pretty interesting Website and it seems as it is
very tasteful. The URL ishttp://www.ozwebart.com.au/kua/index.html
"The
ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of
the character of its participants." - Gichin Funakoshi
Heian
The old name for the Haian Kata was Pinan. These Kata were
developed by Yatasune Itosu as intermediate Kata to the much longer main Kata
of Shorin-Ryu. He did not make them up however, they were based on much older
training forms called Channan, which had their origin in China.
Master Funakoshi considered Pinan Shodan too difficult for
an introductory Kata so he changed Pinan Nidan to Heian Shodan and Pinan Shodan
to Heian Nidan.
For beginners, a somewhat simplified version of Heian Shodan
was introduced, which is called Taikyoku Shodan. This is most often used for
9th Kyu gradings as a "stepping-stone" to Heian Shodan.
Tekki
The Okinawan name for these was Naihanchi and they are
directly taken from the long form called Hua-Chuan which is one, one of the
main training forms of Tiger Style Northern Shaolin Wu-Shu. It was on Okinawa that the Kata was split into three separate
sections that we now call Tekki Shodan, Nidan and Sandan.
The name means "Iron Horse". The Kiba-dachi stance
used exclusively in these Kata is the main training stance of Northern Shaolin
Tiger Style of Wu-Shu.
The Tekki Kata we know and practise today are as follows....
Bassai
Again these Kata are from Northern
Shaolin sources but from which sub-style we are not sure. They do
however, have strong Tiger Style characteristics.
The name used on Okinawa
was "Passai" and it translates as "Capture the
Fortress".
We are taught that Bassai-Dai symbolizes the capture of the
fortress and Bassai-Sho symbolizes the fight to get out again.
Kanku
The Kanku Kata were taught to the Okinawans by Master Kwang
Shang Fu - Military Attaché to Okinawa in
1724. The Okinawan way of saying his name is Kushanku and this was the Okinawan
name for these Kata.
Master Funakoshi changed the name to Kanku which means
"to view the sky".
Jion
This is the classic "mainstream" Shaolin Kata,
complete with the "Ming" salute at the beginning. Shaolin was also
named Jion-Ji by the Japanese but the literal translation of the Kanji is
"to love the sound" (of Shaolin).
Ji-In
Another Shaolin Classic and all of the above relating to
Jion apply here too. The name translates to "love of truth
Chinte
This Kata is one of the older ones and it's salute at the
beginning betrays its Wutang origin. The name translates to "to restore
calm" or "to establish peace".
The final moves of this Kata are supposed to represent the
ocean waves disappearing into the dry sand on the beach just as your enemies
would vanish before you if you master these techniques.
Jutte
(Jitte)
Another Shaolin classic. The name means "ten
hands". If you master this Kata, your enemies will feel as though you had
ten hands
Empi
A classic white crane style Kata brought to Okinawa in 1644 by Military Attaché Master Wang-Shu. The
Kata was names after him hence its Okinawan name of "Wanshu". This
translates to "excellent or incredible arms" and perhaps this
explains the lovely hand techniques this Kata contains.
It also tells us that Master Wang-Shu must have been very
good with his hands.
Hangetsu
This is a Wutang Kata that came to us through Master Itosu's
training in Na-Ha-te from Master Higaonna. It is named after the third Chinese
Zen Patriarch but the name Hangetsu, given to it by Master Funakoshi, means
"half moon" - a description of the stance.
Sochin
This is a Northern Shaolin Dragon Style originally taught on
Okinawa by Master Aragaki. This Kata is
supposed to demonstrate the power of "Ki" and the name means "to
overcome using power" (of Ki).
Unsu
Another Dragon Style Kata from Aragaki. Where he trained is
not known but the strong Chinese influences in this Kata suggest it was
certainly in Mainland China.
The name used on Okinawa is
"Unshou" and it means "cloud defence" - even if your
enemies surround you like a cloud, you will surely defeat them if you master
Unsu.
Nijushiho
Another of Aragaki's Kata but this one is thought to have
its origins in one of the Dragon sub-styles.
The name translates to "the twenty four steps".
The form they are taken from is called "Kaisan". The old name was
"Neseishi".
Gojushiho
These Kata are a departure from the norm as they have their
origin in a Southern Shaolin Style called "Phonexi Eye". The form
they are taken from is called "Kaisan". The name on Okinawa
was "Useishi" but this was changed to Gojushiho - "the fifty
four steps".
Meikyo
This is a very mysterious Kata. It seems that the Japanese
knew it long before Master Funakoshi introduced Okinawan Karate into Japan. There is
even a Japanese legend concerning Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess.
It appears Ameratsu lost her mirror and could not admire
herself and so went into a sulk. The world therefore, was in darkness. At last
the other Gods decided something must be done so they sent a great warrior to
perform a "war dance" outside her cave.
Hearing the noise, Ameratsu became curious and came out of
the cave. The "war dance" was reputed to be Meikyo.
Meikyo translates to "mirror of the soul". The old
name for Meikyo was Rohai and this is now coming back into use.
Wankan
Shaolin based Kata of unknown origin. The old name was
Wanduan and the name translates to "sword arm". Using these
techniques, your enemies will think your arm is a sword.
Gankaku
Yet another White Crane form, this time taught by Master
Ching-To, attaché to Okinawa from the Ming
court in 1732, and so the Okinawans named it in his honor "Chinto".
Master Funakoshi later renamed it Gankaku (the crane
on a rock).
I personally would love to go to Japan next year
but my position in the army sometimes does not allow me to… March would
be too soon for me but I might be able to work something out for Sep. You might
want to also try and get a hold of my Sensei, Sensei Dacosta. He is generally
up for an annual trip to Japan.
I would also like to apologize for my inactivity here in the group. I have been
studying for my MCSA and my MCSE (Microsoft Computer Software Administation and
Microsoft Computer Software Engineer) Certifications… I will be able to
retire from the military at the end of 2007 so I am preparing for that so I
will be able to be viably employed…Ha Ha. Blessings to you all, I can be
in no better company as this group and its members…
From: Dwight Holley
[mailto:cincinnatishotokan@...] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:45 AM To: KOJF@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KOJF] Is there any
karate news or events anyone would like to share w/the group?
I am just trying to stir up some activity here folks and find out if there is any news or events anyone would like to
share with the group? On Sept 30th, Oct 1st and 2nd there is the
"World Shotokan Championships" in Chicago, Ill.
I am considering going with a few students. Anyone else interested? Drop
me a line. ALso I am looking at the itinerary for Japan next year either late March
or waiting until Sept.2006. If you have interest there
let me know.
welcome sir my name is melvin lewis located in louisville ky. if you ever down this way give me a yell .www.louisvilleshotokankarate.com
mindkiller05 <Mantacorex5@...> wrote:
I would like to introduce myself to the group. I was invited by Sensi Holley. My name is Patrie and I currently train at a Shotokan Dojo in Southern Indiana. I'm 18 and have been studying for around ten or eleven years. My father has a black belt in Shotokan that he recieved many years ago but he taught me a lot when I was younger. Then I went on to train at other schools. I learned Tae Kwan Do for a few years and also trained at a school that taught a grab bag of Karate, no one specified form. Then I started Tae Kwan Do again, quit that after about a year and now have found a wonderful school to be a part of. Anyway, I just want to say hello to everyone here and I look forward to being part of the group.
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I would like to introduce myself to the group. I was invited by Sensi Holley.
My name is Patrie and I currently train at a Shotokan Dojo in Southern
Indiana. I'm 18 and have been studying for around ten or eleven years. My
father has a black belt in Shotokan that he recieved many years ago but he
taught me a lot when I was younger. Then I went on to train at other
schools. I learned Tae Kwan Do for a few years and also trained at a
school that taught a grab bag of Karate, no one specified form. Then I
started Tae Kwan Do again, quit that after about a year and now have
found a wonderful school to be a part of. Anyway, I just want to say hello
to everyone here and I look forward to being part of the group.
I am just trying to stir up some activity here folks and find out if
there is any news or events anyone would like to share with the group?
On Sept 30th, Oct 1st and 2nd there is the "World Shotokan
Championships" in Chicago, Ill. I am considering going with a few
students. Anyone else interested? Drop me a line. ALso I am looking
at the itinerary for Japan next year either late March or waiting until
Sept.2006. If you have interest there let me know.
Hello all I am a new member. I have been studying traditional karatedo
for 24 years. At my dojo we teach a curriculum of kata from the four
major styles of japanese karatedo. We compete in USANKF,USAKF,AAU and
WKF tournaments as well as studying the deeper meaning of karate do.