On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:

> I don't see the credits anywhere.  Am I missing something?  I'm looking
> at this page:

> http://www.kogswell.com/siteGALLERY.php

Try it now.

MG

On Thu, 15 May 2008, Kogswell Cycles wrote:
> They are kind of busy with the credits underneath.

I don't see the credits anywhere.  Am I missing something?  I'm looking
at this page:
http://www.kogswell.com/siteGALLERY.php

alex

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM,  <lanceorama@...> wrote:

> I'll add my two cents about photo credits and web design. As a former
> photojournalist (from the world's first and foremost school of journalism),
> I think that web design looks very cluttered with putting the credit under
> the photos. I'd like if someone programmed a credit bar that appears when
> you put the cursor on top of the photo. It seems like it would be easy to do
> (like Flcker does for enlarging pics). Just seems like a neat way to achieve
> the goals of clean design and recognizing the people who take the pictures.

That's a good idea.

They are kind of busy with the credits underneath.

I'll look at doing a mouseover.  I do it for the buttons on the editor.

Good idea, Lance!

(I wonder if others will like it?)

MG

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Benjamin Schurman <ben@...> wrote:

> Do they have to be setup for front loading? Mine is setup for rear my
> commute to work and back and it's setup for rear load with my Dutch
> panniers. I'll take as many photos are you would like but I don't know if
> these would be useful?

Good question.

Let's go with front loading for now.

Thanks, Ben.

Matthew

It's likely the frame.  My (700C) P/R does the exact same thing.
Fortunately the bike has horizontal dropouts so you can adjust the
wheel so it's centered -- at least that's what I do.  And FWIW, I
did have the alignment checked on my frame, and the chainstays are
correctly spaced with respect to the BB. [photo @
http://flickr.com/photos/jimg/2319869141/]

-Jim G





--- In KOG@yahoogroups.com, Daniel McMartin <mcmartind@...> wrote:
>
> > KOGs,
>
> I joined the group last month, but haven't had anything to
> contribute, or ask, until now.
>
> > I just finished building the wheels for my new 650b P/R.  I
used
> > synergy asymmetric rear laced to ultegra 9spd hub.  Both the
park
> > dish tool, and flipping the wheel in the truing stand tell me it
is
> > well centered.  When I mount the wheel (snug in drop outs) it
is
> > off center towards left (non drive side).  I realized I didn't
> > space the 130 mm hub out for the 135 mm dropouts.  Could that
be
> > the problem?
> >
> > I stole the exact same wheel from my wife's bleriot (also
135mm).
> > Her wheel was built by someone far more competent than me, and
> > appears to be spaced out to ~133 mm (2 mm on left, 1 mm on
> > right?).   A quick check with dish tool says her wheel is also
well
> > centered.
> >
> > When I mount her wheel on the P/R it is off center to left, not
as
> > much as my wheel, but still slightly off.  Could this be the
frame?
> > Should I simply dish the wheel more towards drive side so it is
> > centered in frame?  Bring it to Bike shop? Just ride it (that's
> > what I did today…couldn't help myself).
> >
> > Any help is appreciated - dan
> > .
> >
> >
>

Hi, all.

I am getting requests from magazines for photos of P/Rs
in action.  Writers want to show their readers what a
work P/R looks like.

And I would like to use that sort of photo on our web
site as well.

So, if you have a photo of a working P/R or if you're
willing to create one, and if you'd like it to show up
in a magazine, please let me know.

And if you have photos that you'd like to allow us to
use on our web site, please send those along as well.

And one more request: I did some data mining on our
web access log and it seems that folks can't get
enough of photos of complete bikes.  So if you have
a photo, like a side shot, of a P/R that you'd like to
share, pls send it along and I'll put it in our gallery.
And if you include a block of text with it, I'll put
the text next to the photo.

Cheers!

Matthew

On Thu, 15 May 2008, Kogswell Cycles wrote:
> And if you know who owns the photos that are currently
> in place, please let me know so that I can ask for
> permission to use them.

Wouldn't it make more sense to delete photos that have no source, then
ask Kogswell users to resubmit good/advertising quality photos?

I have a few to submit...

alex

Hi, all.

The frame geometries and blueprints are available now:

     http://kogswell.com/siteGEOblue.php

The web tools are back as well.  They need a little work.

And if you know who owns the photos that are currently
in place, please let me know so that I can ask for
permission to use them.

Thanks,

Matthew

On 5/14/08, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2008, Scott Loveless wrote:
>  > Which photo was that?
>
>  http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/gallery/2918371_nzFQg#157224275_jwo4L
>
>  Ro is a great guy to ride with.  We put in some good miles on Saturday
>  as part of a big group camping trip.
>
That one's excellent.  I remember seeing it on the site.

--
Scott Loveless
New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

On 5/15/08, natearm6 <natearm@...> wrote:
> You mean this one? It's Britt.
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/natearm/417907200/
>
>  -nate
>
That's it.  Thanks, Nate.

--
Scott Loveless
New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:55 AM, natearm6 <natearm@...> wrote:

> You mean this one? It's Britt.

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/natearm/417907200/

That's a superb photo.

MG

You mean this one? It's Britt.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/natearm/417907200/

-nate

--- In KOG@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Loveless" <sdloveless@...> wrote:
>
>
> Which photo was that?  I recall a photograph of a nice looking young
> lady cornering on a P/R with drop bars.  As best I can remember she
> had one hand on the flat and the other in the drop applying the brake.
>  Wearing a funky helmet, too.  Anyway, that one was my favorite, but
> it seems to not exist at the Kogswell site these days.  Does anyone
> else remember this one, or am I smoking too much crack?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Scott Loveless
> New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
> http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/
>

The best place to learn most web stuff is at the W3C school:

http://www.w3schools.com/HTML/html_links.asp

It's all there and all very easy to understand.

MG

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Forbes Bagatelle-Black
<diarmaede@...> wrote:

> Speaking of hand-coding, is there an HTML tag to open
> a link in a new window?

Look at the -target- option on the <a> tag.

MG

Speaking of hand-coding, is there an HTML tag to open
a link in a new window?

Yours,

Gumby
--- Kogswell Cycles <kogswellcycles@...> wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Zachariah Mully
> <zmully@...> wrote:
>
> > Instead of hand coding everything have you looked
> at something like
> > phpNuke, Joomla, Drupal, Mambo, etc?
>
> I like Drupal.
>
> It does what I want.
>
> But I like to do all the coding because I then
> understand
> the system from the inside out.
>
> The only real coding was the editor.  The rest was
> super straight forward css and php.  (And so I -can-
> actually make it black on white if I just change the
> two bitmaps and modify the css.)
>
> But the editor is worth it because it makes creating
> new pages SUPER easy.  I'm going to go make a
> new frame geometry page and it will take me about
> five minutes to code (and an hour and a half to do
> the image work).
>
> MG
>


- Forbes Bagatelle-Black, Santa Clarita, CA

Cycloculture - A Journal for Real World Cyclists
http://cycloculture.com

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Zachariah Mully <zmully@...> wrote:

> Instead of hand coding everything have you looked at something like
> phpNuke, Joomla, Drupal, Mambo, etc?

I like Drupal.

It does what I want.

But I like to do all the coding because I then understand
the system from the inside out.

The only real coding was the editor.  The rest was
super straight forward css and php.  (And so I -can-
actually make it black on white if I just change the
two bitmaps and modify the css.)

But the editor is worth it because it makes creating
new pages SUPER easy.  I'm going to go make a
new frame geometry page and it will take me about
five minutes to code (and an hour and a half to do
the image work).

MG

On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Kogswell Cycles wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:46 PM, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:
>
> > He still doesn't have any method to attribute photos either.  That
> > bugs me (and is why all of the photos that I took aren't on the site
> > anymore, even the one that was the cover photo for about 4 months last
> > year).
>
> I took special care to build captions into images so
> that I could give credit where it is due.
>
> Because you helped me understand the importance
> of such attributions.
>
> I've given Vaughn credit for his photo.  And if I can
> figure out from whom the other photos have come,
> I'll give them credit as well.
>
> MG


Instead of hand coding everything have you looked at something like
phpNuke, Joomla, Drupal, Mambo, etc?

Z

Thanks, Jim.

It's been about six months since I wrote that and I can't
remember what I was trying to accomplish.

I'll see if I can remember.

I'm sort of hoping that Wetpaint releases their embeddable
wiki some time soon.  I'd much rather buy and install one
than make my own.

Matthew

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:46 PM, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:

> He still doesn't have any method to attribute photos either.  That
> bugs me (and is why all of the photos that I took aren't on the site
> anymore, even the one that was the cover photo for about 4 months last
> year).

I took special care to build captions into images so
that I could give credit where it is due.

Because you helped me understand the importance
of such attributions.

I've given Vaughn credit for his photo.  And if I can
figure out from whom the other photos have come,
I'll give them credit as well.

MG

--- In KOG@yahoogroups.com, "Kogswell Cycles" <kogswellcycles@...>
wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Jim Gourgoutis <jimg@...> wrote:
>
> > The "submit to table" button doesn't do anything for me on IE6 on
WinXP....
>
> > <a onclick="javascript:document.formNAME.submit()"
> > href="javascript:function Z(){Z=''}Z()">
>
> > isn't the right way to code this.
>
>
> No?
>

The "javascript:" is a psuedo-protocol, akin to "http:" but it's not
an official adopted syntax -- it's only used to tell a browser that
the following is Javascript.

"onclick" is a DOM-0 method of attaching a Javascript event to a web-
page element.  Hence, it already implies Javascript, so
having "onclick=javascript" is redundant and syntactically incorrect.

Using "href=javascript" is technically not incorrect (although it's
poor style and non-semantic) but since you already have the "onclick"
event handler, any Javascript should be executed through that trigger,
not through the href attribute.

Finally, this syntax looks wrong to me: "function Z(){Z=''}Z()".  It
looks like you're trying to define function Z which assigns a null
character to variable Z and then call function Z.  Written more
clearly:

function Z() {
   Z = '';
}

Z();

Z, as declared within the wrapping function, is a global variable here
since the "var" keyword isn't used, so first you're declaring it as a
function, then assigning it a string value, but then finally calling
it as a function...?


The best/simplest way to write this would be

<input type="submit" name="submit" value="submit to table" />

and put that element within the <form> tags.


-Jim G

On Wed, 14 May 2008, Scott Loveless wrote:
> Which photo was that?

http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/gallery/2918371_nzFQg#157224275_jwo4L

Ro is a great guy to ride with.  We put in some good miles on Saturday
as part of a big group camping trip.

Any Seattle-area readers should consider going on his Memorial Day
Cargo Bike Jamboree.

http://www.rideyourbike.com/cargoride14.html

alex

On 5/14/08, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:
> He still doesn't have any method to attribute photos either.  That
>  bugs me (and is why all of the photos that I took aren't on the site
>  anymore, even the one that was the cover photo for about 4 months last
>  year).

Which photo was that?  I recall a photograph of a nice looking young
lady cornering on a P/R with drop bars.  As best I can remember she
had one hand on the flat and the other in the drop applying the brake.
  Wearing a funky helmet, too.  Anyway, that one was my favorite, but
it seems to not exist at the Kogswell site these days.  Does anyone
else remember this one, or am I smoking too much crack?

Thanks!

--
Scott Loveless
New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Jim Gourgoutis <jimg@...> wrote:

> The "submit to table" button doesn't do anything for me on IE6 on WinXP....

> <a onclick="javascript:document.formNAME.submit()"
> href="javascript:function Z(){Z=''}Z()">

> isn't the right way to code this.


No?


MG

The "submit to table" button doesn't do anything for me on IE6 on
WinXP....


<a onclick="javascript:document.formNAME.submit()"
href="javascript:function Z(){Z=''}Z()">

isn't the right way to code this.


-Jim G





--- In KOG@yahoogroups.com, "Kogswell Cycles" <kogswellcycles@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> One of the big goals for the new web site is to have user created
> content.  There's a content editor that you can use create stuff:
>
>     http://kogswell.com/ce.php
>
> And the button on the far right submits the content into a table.
>
> So if you're interested, try writing a short article about
something
> and then email me with any problems you find in the editor.  There
> are a handful that I know of.
>
> The editor is supposed to be usable without documentation.
>
> The only tricky part is that you have to add a -break- under images
> and their associated text.  The break is the arrow button just to
the
> right of the two image buttons.
>
> And if anyone knows anyone who's working on the BALCO product
> at Wetpaint in Seattle, I'd love to be a beta tester.
>
> Matthew
>

On Wed, 14 May 2008, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> It was the copyright notice boilerplate text under the photos that was
> black on dark gray.   It's OK in my book if that "fine print" is indeed
> in fine print, but illegible contrast gets my Section 508 Accessibility
> knickers in a twist.  Especially on a day when I'm at work without my
> computer glasses.

He still doesn't have any method to attribute photos either.  That
bugs me (and is why all of the photos that I took aren't on the site
anymore, even the one that was the cover photo for about 4 months last
year).

Photo attributions aren't only about getting recognition.  They are
also a helpful way to find out who knows the backround on one of the
bikes listed there.  Kogswells tend to get unique builds and often it
is nice to find the owner of one to ask them a question.

I'm disappointed that as time goes on the Kogswell site has less
content instead of more.  I miss the blueprints.  Today you can't
even get a list of what models are offered, what the wheel sizes
are, and what the frame sizes are.

alex

For any Southern Cali Koggers, this bike has Brooks saddle,  Nitto
moustache bars and stem, Mavic Open Pro wheels ( with a flip-flop rear
hub,17 teeth and 18 teeth),
Sugino crankset and fenders, lights, bell and kickstand.  Grey
powdercoat.  Specs at <http://kogswell.com/g.html>.  $700.00.  Thanks,
Kim.