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Re: [KOG] Re: 700c PR

On 10/31/07, Jim Gourgoutis <jimg@...> wrote:

> Info on this frame is really only available in the archives of this list.

There's a drawing on this page:

http://kogswell.com/sitePR.php

The color is black.

Kogswell 700C fenders will not be available until 2008.
But others may fit (I don't know the OD of other fenders.
Does anyone?)

The forks left Taiwan today, so in three weeks you can
all start ordering frame/fork sets.

The sets will be $540 (no fenders) and will include a
headset, seatpost and misc stuff. And since the
frame and fork can ship in one box, shipping will
be $50 instead of $80.

Like the other P/R 2.0 models, the 700C x 59
model is a light steel frame with a light steel fork.
The fork blades are light. The stays are light. The
top tube is 28.6mm x 0.5. The down tube is 28.6
x 0.6. The lighter more flexible down tubes seem
to have done the trick. The 26" and 650B models
have a dreamy ride and I expect the 700C model
to be just as good.

To me it's sort of funny how the 28.6 x 0.6 down
tube and the 31.8 x 0.4 down tube have nearly
the same moment of inertia, but one costs
a third of the other.

Matthew



Thu Nov 1, 2007 3:16 am

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Matthew, Where can I fond some info on the 59cm, 700c frame? Cost, color, geometry? I don't see much on the website. Thanks Steve in Tucson...
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Nov 1, 2007
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... Info on this frame is really only available in the archives of this list. I've been unofficially collecting the data at http://yojimg.net/bike/kogswell.php...
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Nov 1, 2007
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... There's a drawing on this page: http://kogswell.com/sitePR.php The color is black. Kogswell 700C fenders will not be available until 2008. But others may...
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... Over the course of the last year, some of us have been discussing the relative merits of oversized (OS) tubes and traditional -standard- sized tubes. Our...
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... It's worth adding why they cost less. The very thin tubes are heat treated (or hardened in other ways) to get the tensile strength up so that they can be...
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... My 2001 Fuji CX is built with Columbus Genius tubing (7/4/7): http://www.novacycles.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35_51_269_284&products_id=211 It is...
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... I'm trying to get Founderland to make us some tapered top tubes. They would taper from 28.6 at the head to 25.4 at the seat tube. But for now they're not...
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... Are there any photos of the frames with the new standard diameter tubing and the 34mm OD head tube? That is a ~9mm difference in diameter (compared to 6mm...
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Hope you don't mind a slightly opposing view. I'm a larger guy (240 pounds) [okay - I'm fat]. At present I prefer oversized tubing. Rarely climb out of the...
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Nov 1, 2007
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... I recall no comment to the effect that planing was encountered only or even primarily while riding out of the saddle. I have two flexible frames (a 1991...
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Steve, You're right. Was thinking of the mention of "strong rider" in VBQ Vol 4, No 1. But in Vol 4, No 3 he just mentions his higher cadence. Good...
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... Huh? I'd hardly call the Sumpie reproduction an example of a lighter frame. It probably weighs more than most of the other hardtail frames in their line. I...
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I'd be surprised it's that heavy. The 1984 model I had when built up was about 28 pounds. I built it from the frame, but mostly stock (i.e., heavier) parts....
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... I once had an old Stumpjumper like yours, I remember that at the time I figured out that it was from the second year they were made, with the ...
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... I still have my '82, which I think is the first one sold outside California. Still all stock components. In 25 years I've never weighed it. John...
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... That meets my definition of planing. I was reminded of it this morning. I've been commuting on my Kogsell P/R prototype for the last month and today I...
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... I feel the same way about my 1993 RB-1, and my regular riding partners all have commented that I seem faster on that bike than any other. Oddly, my other...
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Hmm. Been riding my Surly Cross Check recently. Noticed that I also go faster on that bike than on the Kogswell. However, there are so many differences...
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Hope you don't mind a slightly opposing view. I'm a larger guy (240 pounds) [okay - I'm fat]. At present I prefer oversized tubing. Rarely climb out of the...
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Will the 700c, 59cm PR still come with 135 rear spacing? Steve in Tucson, who wants to keep using wheels he has already....
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... That's what I've read/heard. And it better, I've got a new wheelset primed and ready! -Jim G, chomping at the bit....
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