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was P/R frames/forks - order update, now 559 vs 584 tires

--- In KOG@yahoogroups.com, alex wetmore <alex@...> wrote:
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>
> In the current market I'd go with 584mm over 559mm unless you plan on
> longer tours. 559mm tires are much easier to get, but 584mm tires
> tend to be nicer than average 559mm tires.
>
> alex

The offerings in 584 are slowly but steadily increasing in number,
variety and quality, but at the moment the only tire that has a lower
rolling resistance, light weight and supple casing is the Grand Bois
and it is neither cheap nor easily available. The Riv tires tested
slow, there's nothing special about a CdlV that you can't find in any
number of 559 tires (in fact 559 pasela might be based on the same
casing, no?) so I'm not really sure I agree with the above.

There's an incredible amount of choice in 559 tire land in
widths,weights, tread patterns, casings, puncture protection etc. All
of them easily available and often very cheap. Bicycle quarterly so far
hasn't tested any of them. Who knows what smooth rolling and
lightweight 559 is lurking right under our noses. Who wants to make a
list of all the slick or minimal tread road and touring type tires
available in 559. There are quite a few!

I say choose 559 because there's a huge choice and variety of cheaper
tires (and rims) and go for 584 if you want your larger frame to look
more proportionate (personally I don't worry about those kinds of
things) and because the size is really catching on and looks like it's
here to stay.

How about some nominations for favorite 559 tires. My new favorite is
the Panaracer Extreme Valiant Evo 2 559 x 32mm. Supple casing with high
thread count, kevlar bead, bald as a baby's bare butt and only 250g. I
think I even like them better than the old Avocet slicks. Too bad it's
not availabe in 38 mm. Maybe someone would like to talk to Panaracer.
While we're at it, how about a 559 offering from Grand Bois...

Kurt





Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:27 pm

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Hi, all. The latest order has hit yet another snag and now that it has been sorted out, I have substantial information to share. FORKS All of the forks were...
Kogswell Cycles
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Jul 16, 2007
6:07 pm

Hi Matthew, Thanks for that update! -Jim G...
Jim Gourgoutis
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Jul 16, 2007
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are the frames/forks painted, and if so, what colour? thanks! patrick, looking forward to an A...
Patrick Barber
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Jul 16, 2007
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... Most are. Black. Matthew...
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Jul 16, 2007
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... KOOL!...
Patrick Barber
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Jul 17, 2007
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Thanks, Matthew. I have been looking forward to this shipment to set up a 590 as an everyday bike that I could also do a loaded tour with about once a year or...
Brian Crawford
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Jul 16, 2007
11:19 pm

... It sounds like the 584mm (650B) and 559mm (26" mountain bike size) frames and forks are available. Both of these would be good platforms for what you are...
alex wetmore
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Jul 16, 2007
11:29 pm

... Good to know. I admit I've worked myself up into a fair bit of confusion over the fork selection. What fork are you running on yours and why? ... I'm...
Brian Crawford
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Jul 16, 2007
11:36 pm

... 40mm trail. I have my bike setup with a porteur rack and handlebar bag rack and put lowriders on for touring. The 40mm fork handles really nicely with...
alex wetmore
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Jul 17, 2007
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... Let me add: this is no hardship, as the P/R with a front load and very light rear load handles very well indeed -- considerably nicer than a rear-loaded...
Steve Palincsar
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Jul 17, 2007
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... The offerings in 584 are slowly but steadily increasing in number, variety and quality, but at the moment the only tire that has a lower rolling...
kurtgoltz
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Jul 17, 2007
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... I'm looking to do the same thing, but with a 700C P/R frame. I want a bike with extravagant tire clearance so I can run my favorite mixed-terrain/allroads...
Jim Gourgoutis
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Jul 17, 2007
5:39 pm

... Thanks for the update. Is your intention to not take any orders for the incomplete frame sets until you have the full stock in your presence? -- Brian...
Brian Loudon
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Jul 16, 2007
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... wrote: <snip> ... That would be a shame, indeed. A lot of the fun of these things is the anticipation. Shipping delays of made-to-order items is normal ...
Mike Jenkins
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Jul 17, 2007
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... Take any pictures yet? -John...
John McMurry
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Jul 24, 2007
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... Here's a photo of the fabled 700C x 59cm: http://kogswell.com/images/photo700Cpr.jpg Code name: HOTDISH Matthew...
Kogswell Cycles
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Jul 24, 2007
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... Is this for full-housing rear brake or are there housing stops? Dang. What's the retail on these? Maybe I can sell off a frame in my basement or two....
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Jul 24, 2007
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... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! Thank you thank you. I can hardly wait! 700x40. Low Trail. Off road. Paypal @ the ready, just let me know...
Jim Gourgoutis
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Jul 24, 2007
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... Ya, you betcha. -- Steve Palincsar palincss@... Alexandria, VA, USA...
Steve Palincsar
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Jul 24, 2007
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That makes me want to paint in imaginary lug lines. Dark brown or grey over black. Just enough contrast to mess with your eyes. I don't think my hand's good...
Art Delano
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Jul 24, 2007
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... Very nice. How long is the top tube on that dish? Apologies if you've already posted the geometry and I missed it. And will these come with fenders? ...
Mitchell Gass
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... See http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/KOG/message/11240 Top tube is 58.7mm (damn, I'm gonna need a short stem!) No fenders with the 700C models,...
Jim Gourgoutis
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