all I can say is WOW

Larry P

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changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath
shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than
to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

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I suppose we learn something new every day.  How I have missed knowing about
Bud Day is a mystery to me, but guess we cannot pick up on everything that goes
on in this world.  When I read what has been written, I have to contain myself,
especially about Vietnam.  My brother's stepson, a twin was blown to bits on
Con Thien during this war.  Read & learn something new, if you do not already
know about this. Bob



 












 Medal of Honor recipient Bud Day Talks of Torture








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Please pass to the clueless...
 
 
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 The prelude to the "response" below, from Colonel Bud Day, Medal of Honor
recipient - prisoner of war survivor - reads "I didn't expect to be reminded of
my treatment some 36 years ago on this holiday weekend but our politicians find
it worthy to ignore what some have tried to recount to them, who have actually
been there."

I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967...a sq commander.
 
After I returned in 1973...  I published 2 books that dealt a lot with "real
torture" in Hanoi.  Our make believe president is branding our country as a
bunch of torturers when he has no idea what torture is.
 
As for me. Put thru a mock execution because I would not respond...pistol
whipped on the head...same event...  Couple of days later...hung by my feet all
day. I escaped and got recaptured a couple of weeks later...  I got shot and
recaptured.  Shot was OK...what happened after was not.
 
They marched me to Vinh...  put me in the rope trick, trick. Almost pulled my
arms out of the sockets. Beat me on the head with a little wooden rod until my
eyes were swelled shut, and my unshot, unbroken hand a pulp.
 
Next day hung me by the arms...rebroke my right wrist...wiped out the nerves in
my arms that control the hands. Rolled my fingers up into a ball.  Only left
the slightest movement of my L forefinger.  So I started answering with some
incredible lies.
 
Sent me to Hanoi strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of a truck.
 
Hanoi...on my knees. Rope trick again.  Beaten by a big fool.
 
Into leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
 
Much kneeling--hands up at Zoo.
 
Really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
 
Several more kneeling events.  I could see my knee bone thru kneeling holes.
 
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo.  I was the Senior Officer of a
large building because of escape. They started a mass torture of all commanders.
 
I think it was July 7, 1969...they started beating me with a car fan belt.  In
first 2 days I took over 300 strokes. Then stopped counting because I never
thought I would live thru it.
 
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a non-existent part in
the escape.  This went on for at least 3 days.  On my knees. Fan belting... 
cut open my scrotum with fan belt stroke.  Opened up both knee holes again. 
My fanny looked like hamburger. I could not lie on my back.
 
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the escape and that my 2
room-mates knew about it.
 
The next day I denied the lie.
 
They commenced torturing me again with 3- 6- or 9 strokes of the fan belt every
day from about July 11 or 12rh...to 14 October 1969.  I continued to refuse to
lie about my roommates again.
 
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president has declared to the
world that we (U.S.) are a bunch of torturers...  Thus it will be OK to torture
us next time when they catch us....because that is what the U.S.  does.
 
Our make-believe president is a know nothing fool who thinks that pouring a
little water on some one's face, or hanging a pair of womens pants over an Arabs
head is TORTURE.  He is a meathead.
 
I just talked to MOH holder Leo Thorsness who was also in my sq in jail.... as
was John McCain ... and we agree that McCain does not speak for the POW group
when he claims that Al Gharib was torture... or that "water boarding" is
torture.
 
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad mouthing our great country
are a disgrace to the United States.  Please pass this info on
to Sean Hannity.  He is free to use it to point out the stupidity of the
claims that water boarding ...which has no after effect... is torture.  If it
got the Arab to cough up the story about how he planned the attack on the twin
towers in NYC ... hurrah for the guy who poured the water.
 
BUD DAY, MOH
 
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a retired  U.S. Air Force
  Colonel  and  Command Pilot  who served during the  Vietnam War . He is
often cited as being the most decorated U.S. service member since General  
Douglas MacArthur , having received some seventy decorations, a majority for
actions in combat. Day is a recipient of the  Medal of Honor . 














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