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Re: [IDPA] Unbelievable: 2nd Amendment upheld in DC

I only had a few seconds to scan the opinion but it
includes a fascinating history of the militia - I
printed a copy and plan to read it as a historical
account. Down load your own copy of this 75 page
opinion at
http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200703/04-7041a.pdf



--- Andrew Colglazier <andrewcolglazier@...>
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> Federal court overturns D.C. handgun ban
> 2-1 ruling says Second Amendment is not limited to
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538139/
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Federal court overturns D.C. handgun ban 2-1 ruling says Second Amendment is not limited to ‘militia’ needs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538139/ -- Todd...
Todd Louis Green
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Mar 9, 2007
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Saw that. Amazing! Andy ... From: "Todd Louis Green" <todd@...> To: <IDPA@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [IDPA]...
Andrew Colglazier
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I only had a few seconds to scan the opinion but it includes a fascinating history of the militia - I printed a copy and plan to read it as a historical ...
Scott Ruby
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Mar 9, 2007
9:19 pm

Now, if the Supreme Court will just follow suit gun owners will be in good shape and can breathe a little easier but "still" not drop their guard. o. ... From:...
Oscar Dean
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Mar 10, 2007
3:36 am

... in good... Yes, but it'll be a while before it gets there. The current ruling was only a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals. The most likely next ...
John W. Pierce
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Mar 10, 2007
8:10 am

I hope your all right about this..Like I said in another gun forum it could go the other way also. I keep saying I do not trust this SCOTYS. After some of...
batf666
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Mar 10, 2007
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Yay, finally, one for the good (read: little) guys! Thanks for posting that link. I would have missed this as I tend to avoid the evening news because of its...
lykaina2005
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Mar 10, 2007
5:00 am

I didnt read any of this but I did listen to what Limbaugh said about it on the radio. Basically they found "the right of the People to keep and bear arms,...
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Mar 10, 2007
2:47 pm

It's hard for me to comprehend that the learned "magnificent 9" would decide that the use of the words "the people" in one section of the amendments meant...
Oscar Dean
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Mar 10, 2007
6:18 pm

... SCOTUS will ALSO consider that IF they deed the circuit's decision correct, they have UNdone most of the gun laws in the US. i'm not at all certain they...
Scott Estes
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Mar 10, 2007
6:40 pm

Not at all. SCOTUS has ruled consistently that other rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights can be limited in terms of "time, place, and manner" so long as...
Todd Louis Green
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Mar 10, 2007
9:59 pm

A central issue was whether the ability to bear arms only related to individuals that had signed up to serve in the militia. Among other things, DC argued that...
Scott Ruby
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Mar 10, 2007
6:42 pm

you OBVIOUSLY didnt hear limbaugh discuss it... I think he went on for 20 - 30 min on it... could be wrong we had a local host pick it up and talk aobut it for...
larrys1911@...
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Mar 10, 2007
8:10 pm

At the time our founding fathers wrote the Second Amendment there was no organized militia, national guard or whatever. The term "militia" referred to all...
John Warsaw
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Mar 10, 2007
9:34 pm

That is EXACTLY correct, John, and the best, most concise wording I've ever seen on the subject. Terry Riley ... From: John Warsaw To: IDPA@yahoogroups.com ...
Terry Riley
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Mar 10, 2007
11:00 pm

Keep in mind, though, that the Founding Fathers also *never* intended the Second Amendment to limit a State's rights to regulate firearms. The Bill of Rights...
Todd Louis Green
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Mar 10, 2007
11:12 pm

Todd - Under 10 USC something, there are two sections that talk about the militia - one section addresses the organized militia, generally understood to be the...
Chuck Edwards
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Mar 11, 2007
1:45 am

Chuck -- That's an interesting question. In general, laws passed shortly after the ratification of the Constitution have been taken as persuasive (but not...
Todd Louis Green
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Mar 11, 2007
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I'm looking a good place to buy some 5.11 shorts. Any suggestions? Donald [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
DMurray
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Mar 11, 2007
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LA Police Gear usually runs some kind of sale, buy two get one, free shipping etc. http://www.lapolicegear.com/5tash1.html Gary ... [Non-text portions of this...
Gary Jones, JR.
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Mar 11, 2007
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Try botac.com and e-bay. Botac runs some specials from time to time. Keith...
kmitchl
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Mar 11, 2007
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... I've been stiffed by Botach enough that I'll never use them again. Generally the issue is ZERO communication regarding the order status - the last time was...
Lee Manevitch
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Mar 11, 2007
3:23 pm

I have never ordered anything from Botac. I have heard so many horror stories from people that have, that I wont be. Larry P ... From: Lee Manevitch...
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Mar 11, 2007
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Preach on brother!!!!! Never again will they get a dollar of mine. Patrick ... From: Lee Manevitch To: IDPA@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:22...
Patrick Holsted
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Mar 11, 2007
5:16 pm

No botach, ever. I took me over 3 months to get a refund on an item that never shipped. I got "botached". Don't let it happen to you....
Gary Jones, JR.
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Mar 11, 2007
11:17 pm

Have you seen the Elite Tactical Series clothing from Woolrich? It has all the good things about 5.11 - but being newer, incorporates some definite...
Scott Ruby
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Mar 12, 2007
1:38 am

... The most recent pair of 5.11 shorts I've purchased has a more normal- sized back pocket. Perhaps they're listening to their customers. -- Lee Manevitch ...
Lee Manevitch
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Mar 12, 2007
11:39 am

I don't use back pockets much any more. I usually on a motorcycle and having something back there just isn't comfortable. I check out the Woolrich shorts...
Donald Murray
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Mar 12, 2007
11:59 am

Todd - The National Guard wasn't created until (going from memory - at my age, a dangerous thing) around 1880. Militias existed back into the 1600s and were...
Chuck Edwards
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Mar 11, 2007
4:29 am

Chuck, you are correct. The section in question is 10 USC Sec. 311. (USC = United States Code, which is the Federal code of laws.) You can find it at ...
John Warsaw
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Mar 11, 2007
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