I was down there over the July 4th weekend.  There was another foiler
in the water, but not sure who it was.

I will be back down there Aug 24th-26th.

-Jason

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by the way, foil-n.com did a great job with the fly-in. It was a lot of fun to see the old familiar faces!

 

here's a pic of the triplet show.

 

--
-brettE

no to jake and murphy. murphy was in the boat. he did it at 6.8mph with a double wake cut... 12mph is the slowest standstill invert...

 

btw...later that day, i broke murphy's old record and got down to 6.3mph.... i can break 6.

 

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-------------- Original message --------------
From: EWINGSKI@aol.com
Not to rain on the parade or anything, but I think Murphy did one on vid at 10



David Ewing
We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. So I'm not fat, I'm just really intelligent and my head couldn't hold any more so it started filling up the rest of me!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

we were using GPS and perfect pass. the contest got brought up on
friday night at the campfire... not really sure how it got brought up
about how slow an invert could happen. someone said murphy did one
under 7 mph and we all thought it was cheesy because that wasn't how
fast he was going (with a double wake cut). so we decided no cut, no
line loading, no nothing but boat speed. of course murphy was in, but
he wanted to do double wake cuts (wussy :). the boat was calibrated
with GPS (for it's perfect pass) and we were off. dave c, kirk,
brettE, murphy, capt mike and myself all put in $5 for the contest.
we each got three falls at the slowest speed... meaning, dave c. set
the bar at 14 mph and then crashed 3 times at 13 mph so he was out.
he called out brettE who then had to match the 14 mph within 3 falls
but he didn't so then he called out capt mike and so on.

the winning roll was capt mike at 12 mph... most humans couldn't have
hung onto the rope, he came around and the whole board went under.
both of my shoulders would have popped out. remember, we only got 3
attempts! i bet it was a 10 frame roll!!!!!

i noticed that brettE didn't post the video of him destroying capt
mike when we were riding triples for the ski show!? what gives?

Quoting ewingski@aol.com:

> Were you using GPS? Or Perfect pass? How can you tell you were doing 6.3?
>
>
>
> David Ewing
> We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in
> our heads. So I'm not fat, I'm just really intelligent and my head couldn't
> hold any more so it started filling up the rest of me!
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
>
>
>

Eric Aalto was 50 when he got his first! Ken


>From: Erica Graf <eag2683@...>
>To: bradx@..., 'David Burton' <dburton97128@...>,  'Todd
>Jones' <terribletodd@...>, hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com,  'Duran'
><duranfield@...>
>Subject: RE: [Hydrofoil] Inverting tips
>Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ernie Graf is 54 and is landing rolls, both sides..I think he's 54.... sad
>his own daughter isn't sure...
>
>Brad Scott <bradx@...> wrote:              This is what I show. Pat
>High was only 49 (I think), so not on this list:
>
>   Carl Spencer (72 for first), 74 2003Nov
>   Lonnie Marchand (61)
>   Gene Hamilton (56) 2003Nov
>   Duran Field (53) 2006Jul
>
>   Brad Scott
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of David Burton
>Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:07 PM
>To: Todd Jones; hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com; Duran
>Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] Inverting tips
>
>         So how about another survey?  How many over 50 have landed and
>rode away from an invert?
>
>David B
>
>Todd Jones <terribletodd@...> wrote:
>         Congratulations Duran to the Senior Invert Club !!!!
>
>     It's a great feeling ;-)
>
>
>   __
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>
>
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Anybody going to be on Bull Shoals Lake in Arkansas
next week (Oakland area)?
(6th-11th)

Let me know by Fri.

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The gallery at h2oclothing.net is coming together. There are some
great shots from the Lake Palooza party. There are also some great
pics of Geno, Jake Bradley, TK, and Al Lewin from Cypress Gardens.
Lots more to come... already cropped, just need to get them posted.
Sorry about the delay. Our web master has been swamped.

Chris Miller

we were using GPS and perfect pass.  the contest got brought up on
friday night at the campfire...  not really sure how it got brought up
about how slow an invert could happen.  someone said murphy did one
under 7 mph and we all thought it was cheesy because that wasn't how
fast he was going (with a double wake cut).  so we decided no cut, no
line loading, no nothing but boat speed.  of course murphy was in, but
he wanted to do double wake cuts (wussy :).  the boat was calibrated
with GPS (for it's perfect pass) and we were off.  dave c, kirk,
brettE, murphy, capt mike and myself all put in $5 for the contest.
we each got three falls at the slowest speed... meaning, dave c. set
the bar at 14 mph and then crashed 3 times at 13 mph so he was out.
he called out brettE who then had to match the 14 mph within 3 falls
but he didn't so then he called out capt mike and so on.

the winning roll was capt mike at 12 mph...  most humans couldn't have
hung onto the rope, he came around and the whole board went under.
both of my shoulders would have popped out.  remember, we only got 3
attempts!  i bet it was a 10 frame roll!!!!!

i noticed that brettE didn't post the video of him destroying capt
mike when we were riding triples for the ski show!?  what gives?

Quoting ewingski@...:

> Were you using GPS?   Or Perfect pass?   How can you tell you were doing 6.3?
>
>
>
> David Ewing
> We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in
> our heads. So I'm not fat, I'm just really intelligent and my head couldn't
> hold any more so it started filling up the rest of me!
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
>
>
>

I can do them without any forward motion...  I suppose a stipulation
would be to do the flip in the air? in that case, I digress.

-Jason

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-------------- Original message --------------
From: EWINGSKI@...
Were you using GPS?  Or Perfect pass?  How can you tell you were doing 6.3?



David Ewing
We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. So I'm not fat, I'm just really intelligent and my head couldn't hold any more so it started filling up the rest of me!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "jimposey" <jimposey@...>

My son, Jeff has been doing 12 mph gainers and rolls – gainer requires boat drive to turn away from him as soon as he jumps.

 

Jeff also rode away from his first front yesterday.  Lands them consistently but the handle eludes him at last second.  Well, it didn’t elude him yesterday and he was so excited he almost threw  the handle away in celebration.

 

Jim Posey

Easywheels

321 Shasteen Bend Drive

Winchester, TN. 37398

jimposey@...

931-967-1271

Cell: 931-273-4056

 

 

---

From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Allen
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:32 AM
To: invertedmess@...; hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Hydrofoil] new hydrofoil record

 

I had heard that Jake K has done them at 8mph…

 

David

 

---

From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of invertedmess@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:17 AM
To: hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Hydrofoil] new hydrofoil record

 

Capt. Mike - 12mph gainer... no cut, no wake, just sit there and pop it! Video is coming soon!

 

--
-brettE

-------------- Original message --------------
From: EWINGSKI@...
Not to rain on the parade or anything, but I think Murphy did one on vid at 10



David Ewing
We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. So I'm not fat, I'm just really intelligent and my head couldn't hold any more so it started filling up the rest of me!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Geof

To: hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:29 PM

Subject: [Hydrofoil] Water Channel - 216 on Dish Network

 

There are a couple of clips of foilers (Todd and myself) in the Hall of Fame show.  I haven't seen any of the other episodes yet.

 

http://www.texashydrofoil.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4042&cat=586

 

 

 

 

               

There are several hydroils that are frequently in use on Lake Norris.  I take
two
with me when I go down (about 3-5 long weekends per year).  I'll be near
Stardust
and Sequoyah the weekend of 8/25 and near Shanghai the weekend of 9/14.   If you
see an oversize red and white malibu with a black skylon, feel free to flag us
down.  I know there are at least two others.  One belongs to a guy named Will
who
has a floating house at Springs Marina.

Good luck and I am sure you will enjoy the sport.

Jeff Timmons
jtimmons@...


--- buckdizzy <j.buckley@...> wrote:

> Hi all, I am looking into getting a hydrofoil for the family, but would
> really like to try it out before spending the money.  My wife and I
> don't ski and she's reluctant to take the plunge.
>
> We will be going on vacation to Norris Lake in TN in 2 weeks and are
> curious if there are any places that would rent to us, or if there is
> someone close to Norris (or Indianapolis, IN) that would rent to us to
> try?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>


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It's Missouri that is the "show me state".

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: J P

To: Charles W. Koch ; Foil List

Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:53 PM

Subject: RE: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what foil to buy

100% agreed! In my industry I have trained our reps when the question of competition arises to merely say " I can't comment on their ability to service you but I can assure you if given the opportunity to be of service we will make you a satisfied and more importantly a loyal customer".

 

I should have been from Mississippi the "Show me state" I feel that a company should not bombard me with a litany of derogotive statements regarding the competition.Show me how your product is going to meet my needs and how well you will back it.

 

JP

"Charles W. Koch" <cwkoch@lpgandnh3.com> wrote:

I find Air Chair’s website quite humorous. Most of their product description is spent knocking Sky Ski, saying how bad billet foils are, but now they’re building a billet foil??? What’s going on with that?  I think it’s also pathetic they spend all this energy defaming their competition’s product, instead of just explaining their own product and leaving it at that. Apparently, their product isn’t good enough to speak for itself.

 

I also love that picture of a broken 2-pc t-bar. I wonder what they used to tear that apart!!!

 

Charlie Koch

LPG & NH3 Supply, Inc.

1200 1st St NE

Buffalo, MN 55313

800-328-0314

www.lpgandnh3.com

 

---

From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtimmons
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:20 PM
To: hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what foil to buy

 

JP,

Historically, I would agree with you JP. However, with the G38 now available,
I suspect you MIGHT see a f ew switching from SS to Air Chair. It is definitely
a case of personal preference.

Jeff Timmons

--- J P <phatair4me1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Clayton,
>
> While I agree that to be able to ride all ski's out there would be ideal
> sometimes that is not practical, especially when one is burnin to get out on the
> water!
>
> So in my not so humble opinion the answer is easy I know numerous amount of
> people that used to ride Airchair and now ride SkySki, including me. I however do
> not know anyone that has gone from a SkySki to an Airchair.
>
> I LOVE my LE38, Bat setup!
>
> JP
>
> Clayton Huff <claytonhuff@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Everyone that owns a ss says its better and everyone with a ac says its
>
> better.
>
> please call me and tell me what the hell to do i am exited to join the
> foiling group owners i have rid only a ss.
>
> i will purchase this week.
>
> call me at 9728770116
>
> clayton@huffelectric.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I just got back from Norris Lake, TN. yesterday and I was foiling all weekend. I
have seen a few foils on the lake but I doubt that you can rent them there. I
know I will be there over the Labor Day weekend and you are more than welcome to
ride mine. I live in Cincinnati so if you want to get together for a ride just
let me know. August is a bad month for me due to vacation but I'm sure we can
get you on a foil.


--
Jeff Schaber

Make a living by what you get, make a life by what you give.

---- buckdizzy <j.buckley@...> wrote:

=============
Hi all, I am looking into getting a hydrofoil for the family, but would
really like to try it out before spending the money.  My wife and I
don't ski and she's reluctant to take the plunge.

We will be going on vacation to Norris Lake in TN in 2 weeks and are
curious if there are any places that would rent to us, or if there is
someone close to Norris (or Indianapolis, IN) that would rent to us to
try?

Thanks

Hi all, I am looking into getting a hydrofoil for the family, but would
really like to try it out before spending the money.  My wife and I
don't ski and she's reluctant to take the plunge.

We will be going on vacation to Norris Lake in TN in 2 weeks and are
curious if there are any places that would rent to us, or if there is
someone close to Norris (or Indianapolis, IN) that would rent to us to
try?

Thanks

I also hyrofoil in a private lake and it works great.If anyone would like to try it, let me know I'm in west Houston.(Check out Lakes-of-Katy.com)

                           Carl Estler

----- Original Message -----

From: J P

To: Charles W. Koch ; Foil List

Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:53 PM

Subject: RE: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what foil to buy

100% agreed! In my industry I have trained our reps when the question of competition arises to merely say " I can't comment on their ability to service you but I can assure you if given the opportunity to be of service we will make you a satisfied and more importantly a loyal customer".

 

I should have been from Mississippi the "Show me state" I feel that a company should not bombard me with a litany of derogotive statements regarding the competition.Show me how your product is going to meet my needs and how well you will back it.

 

JP

"Charles W. Koch" <cwkoch@lpgandnh3.com> wrote:

I find Air Chair’s website quite humorous. Most of their product description is spent knocking Sky Ski, saying how bad billet foils are, but now they’re building a billet foil??? What’s going on with that?  I think it’s also pathetic they spend all this energy defaming their competition’s product, instead of just explaining their own product and leaving it at that. Apparently, their product isn’t good enough to speak for itself.

 

I also love that picture of a broken 2-pc t-bar. I wonder what they used to tear that apart!!!

 

Charlie Koch

LPG & NH3 Supply, Inc.

1200 1st St NE

Buffalo, MN 55313

800-328-0314

www.lpgandnh3.com

 

---

From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtimmons
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:20 PM
To: hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what foil to buy

 

JP,

Historically, I would agree with you JP. However, with the G38 now available,
I suspect you MIGHT see a f ew switching from SS to Air Chair. It is definitely
a case of personal preference.

Jeff Timmons

--- J P <phatair4me1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Clayton,
>
> While I agree that to be able to ride all ski's out there would be ideal
> sometimes that is not practical, especially when one is burnin to get out on the
> water!
>
> So in my not so humble opinion the answer is easy I know numerous amount of
> people that used to ride Airchair and now ride SkySki, including me. I however do
> not know anyone that has gone from a SkySki to an Airchair.
>
> I LOVE my LE38, Bat setup!
>
> JP
>
> Clayton Huff <claytonhuff@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Everyone that owns a ss says its better and everyone with a ac says its
>
> better.
>
> please call me and tell me what the hell to do i am exited to join the
> foiling group owners i have rid only a ss.
>
> i will purchase this week.
>
> call me at 9728770116
>
> clayton@huffelectric.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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When was the LE38 purchased / manufactured?  2005 or 2006?   I think SS fixed
most of the "Suck Down" problem.   When riding my LE 38 (after they had done
some work to the T-bar in Jan 06)  in 38 - 52F, I had little or no suck-down.  
That was at 27 MPH.

I had no suck down in water temp above 52F.
---- RICHARD C PECK <hydrofoil@...> wrote:
> I also had a F37, B3H front (wingletless) and bat rear this spring in CT.  NO
suckdowns at all. At same time we had a LE 38.  It experienced cold water suck
downs on every ride. LE 38 had the BFlat (with wing tips) and bat rear.  Ride
speed was 26-27 mph. Water was in 40s F.
>
> Rich
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: tbarnes@...
> To: Garry <ggriffiths@...>
> Cc: bill@...; bsteele@...; Foil List
<hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:54:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what foil
to buy
>
> Yes, I had the Foiltech setup this spring and it was a new experience for
> me riding in cold water. Usually dealing with the cold water suck down on
> top of all of the extra clothing is less than desirable... but better than
> not riding at all.
>
> I was able to ride without any suck down at all. You couldn't tell the
> water was in the 30's...the foil rode just like it does in warmer water.
> I'm sure we'll get more feed back on the different foils and wingletless
> designs later this year.
>
> Keith
>
> > Barnesy should be able to answer that question in regard to cold
> > water.Zero suckdown and performed like a hot knife through butter in 36f
> > water temp on the foiltech setup.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill Kinnison
> > To: bsteele@foilfreaks. com
> > Cc: 'Foil List'
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me what
> > foil to buy
> >
> >
> > Yep, I admit it. I couldn't figure out why the flat wings worked so well
> > when they weren't doin it for us years ago. But apparantly the bigger
> > keel is enough of a rudder to keep it stable. It is a bit more slippery,
> > especially when you land on the ramp of the wake. It tends to slide out
> > from under you. So make a point to jump or roll all the way over!
> >
> > If these things perform like this in the colder water, I'll be really
> > impressed. Water temp yesterday was 80+.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see how the new flat wings perform on the AC
> > foils with the smaller keel...... if the bolt pattern will even work.
> > --
> > Bill - bill@airjunky. com
> > http://airjunky. com
> > 206.200.6226
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Steele wrote:
> >
> > << The B39 - Razorback rocks!>>
> >
> >
> >
> > ..and Bill was skeptical about what we were saying in regards to the
> > wingletless front wings back in May. J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > bsteele
> >
> > www.foilfreaks. com
> >
> > Team Foiltech - Death Blade Rider
> >
> > (F37 + Death Blade + GY38 Rear Wing)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >
> > From: Hydrofoil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogrou ps.com] On
> > Behalf Of Bill Kinnison
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:44 AM
> > Cc: Clayton Huff; Foil List
> > Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] I hate to ask but can some please tell me
> > what foil to buy
> >
> >
> >
> > Good point JP.
> > Another thing to point out....... attend an event. ANY fly-in. It will
> > become totally apparant what foil dominates.
> >
> > One of these guys I met last night had a conversation with a certain
> > company owner a week or two ago. The guy was made to feel like he was
> > being stupid by even considering another brand of foil. He came away
> > from the phone conversation with a bitter feeling about the whole
> > scenario. And that may prove to change his mind about what foil to
> > purchase next.
> >
> > I'll be bringing the Razorback wing, a new lightened board, and the
> > all new 2 piece t-bar (full bat) to the NW Fly-In this weekend. If
> > you'd like to ride or see any of it, please do come visit.
> >
> > The B39 - Razorback rocks!
> > --
> > Bill - bill@airjunky. com
> > http://airjunky. com
> > 206.200.6226
> >
> > J P wrote:
> >
> > Clayton,
> >
> >
> >
> > While I agree that to be able to ride all ski's out there would be
> > ideal sometimes that is not practical, especially when one is burnin
> > to get out on the water!
> >
> >
> >
> > So in my not so humble opinion the answer is easy I know numerous
> > amount of people that used to ride Airchair and now ride SkySki,
> > including me. I however do not know anyone that has gone from a SkySki
> > to an Airchair.
> >
> >
> >
> > I LOVE my LE38, Bat setup!
> >
> >
> >
> > JP
> >
> > Clayton Huff <claytonhuff@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone that owns a ss says its better and everyone with a ac says
> > its
> > better.
> >
> > please call me and tell me what the hell to do i am exited to join
> > the
> > foiling group owners i have rid only a ss.
> >
> > i will purchase this week.
> >
> > call me at 9728770116
> >
> > clayton@huffelectri c.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

I was referring to people who got their first invert after age 50. -- Brad

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of david burton
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:03 PM
To: hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] Inverting tips

 

Are you talking about being over 50 and landing inverts or landing your first invert after 50?

Brad Scott wrote:

This is what I show. Pat High was only 49 (I think), so not on this list:

 

Carl Spencer (72 for first), 74 2003Nov

Lonnie Marchand (61)

Gene Hamilton (56) 2003Nov

Duran Field (53) 2006Jul

 

Brad Scott

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Burton
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:07 PM
To: Todd Jones; hydrofoil@yahoogroups.com; Duran
Subject: Re: [Hydrofoil] Inverting tips

 

So how about another survey?  How many over 50 have landed and rode away from an invert?

David B

Todd Jones <terribletodd@cornhusker.net> wrote:

Congratulations Duran to the Senior Invert Club !!!!

It's a great feeling ;-)

__