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Re: Complain!

The Royals and Pirates have had more success over the last 45 years
than the Astros had, it just hasn't been in the last 10 years.

They made the right decision on Miller, sure. But not on Luis
Gonzalez, Darryl Kile, Bobby Abreu, or Curt Schilling (though
admittedly those weren't medical moves). But I'm willing to give
Bagwell a shot - although I'm not sure if the insurance has to be
filed pre-season or not. Nonetheless, whether the team has a good
track record or not, ti's not 100%, medical or otherwise. You make
valid points, but it's no air tight.

And even then, I doubt very much that that $15 mil will be used to
better the team. McLane is a notorious penny pincher (though he has
gotten better the last year or two), and there are no big free
agents or recently rumoured trades left out there. That money will
be profit, nothing more. I'd rather show loyalty to Mr. Astros and
let him leave on his own terms than I would make another rich
businessman richer and happier.

It should also be pointed out that Bagwell, who thinks he can still
play, has said this has probably permanently damaged his
relationship with the team. We sure could have used him as a Minor
Leaguem manager or Major League bench coach, or perhaps a personal
services guy like Nolan Ryan. That's definently worth something, but
we've lost it.



--- In HoustonAstros@yahoogroups.com, HexDib@a... wrote:
>
>
> Not sure where this was ever stated as fact. Do you also realize
what it
> costs to insure these types of contracts and how much money in
insurance
> premiums are spent to cover just in case something like this
happens to a player
> with that type of contract? I'd encourage you to do some homework
on that as
> well. Let me also add that I believe you need to give the Astros
organization a
> little bit more credit than you do. Did they not produce a team
that went to
> the world series? Did they not make the right medical decision on
Wade
> Miller? You are way to critical of a successful franchise would
you feel better if
> you were a Pirates fan or a Royals fan or a host of other teams
that have had
> little or no success in the last decade or so?
>
>
> In a message dated 1/25/2006 8:37:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> texas_musician@y... writes:
>
> He believes, his agent believes, HIS doctor believes
> (albeit maybe not James Andrews, the best), and I believe that he
> will be ready by the season. The reasoning? He may not throw 90
feet,
> but he can throw farther than he could Dec. 25, when he could
throw
> farther than he could Nov. 25, when he could throw farther than
he
> could Oct. 25. There's no law or medical fact that says progress
> stops in late January.
>









Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:14 pm

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Complain to the team about the Bagwell situation! Write the Astros: Houston Astros PO Box 288 Houston, TX, 77001-0288 Call the Astros: (713) 259-8000 Or visit...
texas_musician
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Jan 25, 2006
2:42 pm

The link to mlb email doesn't look like it goes directly to Astros. Does it? Bill and Mavis Townsley...
Bill and Mavis
mavisbillt
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Jan 25, 2006
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The full link does. For some reason, only the first part of it was hyperlinked, so instead of clicking on it, copy/paster the whole thing into the URL box at...
texas_musician
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Jan 25, 2006
5:19 pm

Thanks for the info. I called and let them know how much I support their decision. If you have insurance and you get sick do u not let the insurance company...
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Jan 25, 2006
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Nothing wrong in using the info I provide to make the opposite point. I've done that a few times myself. If I have insurance and I get sick, yes, I'm going to...
texas_musician
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Jan 25, 2006
5:16 pm

You know after being in the WS last year and say they do sign Bagwell. They put 35k people thru the turnstiles every game, average, or more, this would pay...
Bill and Mavis
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Jan 25, 2006
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Just so I understand your point. You feel you are better versed than Dr. Andrews or Dr. Lintner on whether he is injured or not ? In a message dated 1/25/2006...
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Jan 25, 2006
8:48 pm

I see how it is. Ignore my logic, and go straight for the ad hominem. There's no reason to get snippy, sir. It doesn't do you credit. Just because I say...
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Jan 25, 2006
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Nice to see someone bought into the "I am getting ready for the season and it isn't unusual that on January 25th I shouldn't be able to throw a ball 90 ...
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Jan 26, 2006
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If Bagwell really is unable to perform, he should say that, absolutely. But he doesn't think he is; I'm sure he believes he would be lying if he said it. Does...
texas_musician
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Jan 26, 2006
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Not sure where this was ever stated as fact. Do you also realize what it costs to insure these types of contracts and how much money in insurance premiums...
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Jan 26, 2006
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The Royals and Pirates have had more success over the last 45 years than the Astros had, it just hasn't been in the last 10 years. They made the right decision...
texas_musician
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Jan 26, 2006
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If there is anyone that can be ready if there is anything left in his shoulder it is Jeff Bagwell. Bill and Mavis Townsley...
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Jan 26, 2006
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Seems to me there is still a guy out there by the name of Clemens who may want to be an Astro this year. But that is just a guess. In a message dated...
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Jan 26, 2006
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I really hope he comes back....so does anyone know exactly what is up with baggie...i saw on the news that he might not be at spring training?....and what is...
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The Astros asked him to go see Dr. James Andrews in Atlanta (am I right on the location?) to find out if his shoulder is ready for baseball. Andrews is the big...
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Jan 26, 2006
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I think Jeff and Drayton need a serious sit down. Bill and Mavis Townsley...
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