Thanks Ken, that reaaly helps. Coach George, ( Bonnie is my wife)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Gamble" <dsports@...>
To: <Good-Bad-Ugly@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Good, Bad and Ugly (about Soccer)] info (long)


> Bonnie,
>
> Here's an answer that I sent to another coach with a similar question.
> Although it doesn't point you towards specific information it does say
> something about systems of play at 8v8. I know this has been discussed
> on the coach-l soccer e-mail list many times so you could do an archive
> search at http://lists.mun.ca/archives/soccer-coach-l.html
> using "8v8 formation" as your search term. I did a search and ended up
> with the list of e-mails discussing 8v8 formations below. The search
> takes some time but you will end up with a list of links - see below.
>
> >>>>>>>
> Just a quick reply. There's no correct answer. It depends on
> what your personnel is like, what size fields you play on and what your
> competition uses. I prefer a 3-2-2 or a 2-3-2 because that allows the
> easiest transition for the players to 11-a-side soccer when they get to
U11.
> My U10s who finished second in the state last year played a 3-2-2.
They'll
> move to a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 this season at 11v11. The 3-2-2 seemed to be
> the formation we saw from other most other teams. In fact the teams which
> defeated us during the season all used a 3-2-2.
> And we changed the way we played the 3-2-2 depending on our
> competition. Against most teams we played the 3-2-2 more like a 2-3-2 by
> moving our sweeper into more of a center defensive midfielder position.
We
> were able to do that because we had two great fullbacks that were good
ball
> handlers who seldom allowed the other team's forwards to get loose in
front
> of the goal.
> We did play a team that was undefeated who played a 2-2-3 and who
> only lost one game all season - to us in the state cup. They had two
strong
> fullbacks who were able to kick the ball long distances (farther than
anyone
> we saw in our part of the state). They played kickball to their three
> forwards who overpowered the three defenders on most teams. Their coach
> said that the scheme had worked against everyone else in the state because
> no one else had been able to handle their two fullbacks. We won by using
a
> possession ball control type offense and two very quick forwards. Not to
> mention that our three defenders, while often in trouble, were able to
> thwart
> their three attackers.
> Remember that formation designations only mean what you explain
> them to mean to your players. Your 3-2-2 may not be the same as my 3-2-2.
I
> never actually saw a 1-2-1-2-1 in use but I talked to several coaches on
the
> Coach-L e-mail list who use the formation and really like using it because
> they say it uses triangles and diamond shapes which are the passing
shapes
> used in our pratcices. But it just seems unnecessarily complicated for 8
> and 9 year olds. The double diamond is a good formation at 11-a-side and
my
> U12 team used a 4-4-2 that incorporated a double diamond using a sweeper -
> stopper - defensive holding midfielder and an attacking midfielder and
> occasionally twin strikers. But at 8 and 9 years old we work on skills
and
> very seldom do anything much on formation or tactics until late in the
> season. That is my suggestion - work on ball skills and put your players
in
> positions that take advantage of their skills - fit the formation to your
> players - not vice versa.
>
>
> Here is what my search of the Coach-L archives turned up.
> Item # Date Time Recs Subject
> 002618 96/08/07 15:20 30 Re: Help on Formation, 8v8
> 002778 96/08/19 14:01 34 Re: 8v8 formations
> 002783 96/08/19 17:56 55 Re: 8v8 formations
> 003902 96/09/24 10:22 41 Players/Formation/Style of
> 009227 97/03/29 17:09 32 Re: Best formation for my U10 Girls Team
> 009253 97/03/31 09:04 126 Re: Best formation for my U10 Girls Team
> 013750 97/09/03 18:12 80 Re: Positions
> 014219 97/09/17 10:38 40 2-3-2 formation for 8v8
> 014226 97/09/17 12:50 32 Re: 2-3-2 formation for 8v8
> 014243 97/09/17 20:37 91 Re: 2-3-2 formation for 8v8
> 014249 97/09/18 08:15 48 Re: 2-3-2 formation for 8v8
> 033712 99/04/30 15:40 58 Re: Sub_U10: 6v6 vs. the rest
> 037278 99/08/16 16:11 36 Re: Play: formation confusion
> 053478 01/03/29 08:56 69 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053486 01/03/29 11:47 113 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053630 01/04/02 15:27 29 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053633 01/04/02 14:33 35 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053634 01/04/02 16:35 54 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053635 01/04/02 17:52 83 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053638 01/04/02 17:06 116 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 053645 01/04/02 16:45 63 Re: Play: 8 v 8 formations
> 054836 01/06/06 16:14 20 recommended positions and formation for 8v8 U9
> 054837 01/06/06 18:35 38 Re: recommended positions and formation for 8v8
U9
>
> Ken Gamble
> dsports@...
> http://www.decatursports.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bonnie Argeropoulos" <bargerop@...>
> To: <Good-Bad-Ugly@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:13 PM
> Subject: [Good, Bad and Ugly (about Soccer)] info
>
>
> I coach a u-12 girls soccer team. Just recently, that age group went over
to
> an 8 v 8 team size. Does anyone know where I can get information on team
> configuration and shape. (i.e..) 3 2 2 1, etc?
>
> Thank you, Coach
>
>
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