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Grizzlie nation relax. Understand that everyone is worked up due to
the discussion  about players circumstances and moving on to the next
level. I will let everyone know that I play for Gateway because the
fans are amazing and it's convenient for my wife, kids, and me. My
only two goals are #1. To sign with an affiliate and #2. Win a
championship (to get the exposure to sign with an affiliate.) I am a
ball player in and out. It's my life. I coach it, instruct it, and
play it year round. It is serious business for my family and me.
Mark my words,"unless I get injured I will return to affiliated ball
with or without Gateway and succeed at it, knock on wood." Hopefully
with gateway though. Ben you are correct when you say many players
are not ready for the next level and the scout is correct when he
says many players want to just get their and thats it, but I have
been there twice and I have been preparing myself physically and
mentally to reach and stay at the major league level for the past 2
years. Last year was my comeback year to reaquiant myself with the
game, but this year everyone needs to lookout because it going down.
I pray that the rest of the players that sign with gateway take it as
serious as me. I learned alot from players on the team last year
especially Patterson and I look forward to helping lead this team to
a Championship in 06. Nothing else matters, NOTHING. To a Gateway
Championship in 06,(Cheers).
Ben, get at me in traffic.
C. Little

Hey Ben gotta alot talk going on by you.  being that your hanging it up.  I
think your getting the itch to play again.

Sarge


>From: "number25in05" <number25in05@...>
>Reply-To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] One more thing!
>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:30:31 -0000
>
>ALL,
>One more thing, this is not a message of disrespect to all those guys
>in the league who did well. but if you are good at all, you should do
>well in the FL. If your too talented for this league, domination of
>the FL is xpected
>benji
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hey Ben gotta alot talk going on by you.  being that your hanging it up.  I
think your getting the itch to play again.

Sarge


>From: "number25in05" <number25in05@...>
>Reply-To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] One more thing!
>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:30:31 -0000
>
>ALL,
>One more thing, this is not a message of disrespect to all those guys
>in the league who did well. but if you are good at all, you should do
>well in the FL. If your too talented for this league, domination of
>the FL is xpected
>benji
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, steve bergheger
<jdcalypso23@...> wrote:
>
> Ben...
> Anybody that we sign from the FL would be on an as needed
basis...FILL players...You and I know that.  But for most...just to
get a chance is all they want.   Unfortunately our criteria is a bit
higher.   That's not a slap in the face or an insult...just fact.
>
> number25in05 <number25in05@...> wrote:    Hello all, just thought
I would chime in and give my 2 pennies too.
>  Manzo, settle down you aint gonna get anywhere in convincing
>  disgruntled players they arent getting paid enough. Fact is
incog,
>  gatewaygriz, if you where good enough to get paid the money you
>  want, you wouldnt be in the frontier league, swallow hard and own
up
>  to the fact that you arent as good as the guys getting paid
period!
>  Bergy, why dont you sign me then if all you have to do is be able
to
>  play at the AA level, show me where to sign. Breyman is another
guy
>  that could play there whats the rebutle now. Bergy as a scout you
>  should know teams dont want guys that project to double A, they
want
>  guys for the big leagues and thts it, when they dont thik youll
make
>  it your done thats it. I had a great year last year, why didnt I
get
>  signed. Fact is, there is good talent in this league, none great.
>  Older players do well in the league, young players dont. Since
the
>  players that do well are older they dont get sigend. since the
>  younger players need ALOT of work they dont get signed. To my two
>  Disgruntled players ( I AGREE JOE) Your not getting paid the big
>  bucks there for a reason.  I do agree that the grizzlie burger
will
>  put people in the seats this year, but what about next? If you
want
>  it to incerase annually then the league needs to put a better
show
>  on the field with better players and a faster paced game. let the
>  fans count on seeing a certain core of 7 or 10 players every year
to
>  build a relationship with those guys(phil Warren, Patterson) Of
>  course  better players come and youll have to increase the
salaries,
>  but if you want the same fans to come back along with new ones,
the
>  age and salary limits need to go so better players will come and
>  then the only time the leave willl be to sign with an affliated
>  team.  Whay doesent anyone get signed till they leave? Because
>  dominating in the frontier league doesent  mean they will do well
in
>  affliated baseball, the compitition isnt that good. Same reason
Joe
>  Dooley and Patty left to play in the atlantic league, the
competiton
>  is alot better and if they do well there, they will do well in
>  affliated ball as well.  To all those who think they deserve more
I
>  hope you get your shot against top flight competition and see
that
>  your not as good as you think!
>  BENJI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  2004 Frontier League Champions
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Bergy,
You couldnt insult me sir.. I was just trying to make a point to the
2 guys wanting to get paid more. I know the criteria you set is
different, I just think that the level of play in the league would
need to improve  before any of the players could be "ready" for AA
or better. There arent a lot of Diamonds in the rough in the FL. The
guys that devote themselves to baseball every summer and get paid
alot, get paid alot because they are more consistent against high
level competition. If your not, people arent cheating you, and
either you displayed that in high school, college, or maybe even
minor league baseball the level you were playing was too high, you
struggled and now your bitter because your in the FL making the
league minnimum. Dont get BITTER, get BETTER-then youll get paid!
Benji

ALL,
One more thing, this is not a message of disrespect to all those guys
in the league who did well. but if you are good at all, you should do
well in the FL. If your too talented for this league, domination of
the FL is xpected
benji

Ben...
Anybody that we sign from the FL would be on an as needed basis...FILL players...You and I know that.  But for most...just to get a chance is all they want.   Unfortunately our criteria is a bit higher.   That's not a slap in the face or an insult...just fact. 

number25in05 <number25in05@...> wrote:

Hello all, just thought I would chime in and give my 2 pennies too.
Manzo, settle down you aint gonna get anywhere in convincing 
disgruntled players they arent getting paid enough. Fact is incog,
gatewaygriz, if you where good enough to get paid the money you
want, you wouldnt be in the frontier league, swallow hard and own up
to the fact that you arent as good as the guys getting paid period! 
Bergy, why dont you sign me then if all you have to do is be able to
play at the AA level, show me where to sign. Breyman is another guy
that could play there whats the rebutle now. Bergy as a scout you
should know teams dont want guys that project to double A, they want
guys for the big leagues and thts it, when they dont thik youll make
it your done thats it. I had a great year last year, why didnt I get
signed. Fact is, there is good talent in this league, none great.
Older players do well in the league, young players dont. Since the
players that do well are older they dont get sigend. since the
younger players need ALOT of work they dont get signed. To my two
Disgruntled players ( I AGREE JOE) Your not getting paid the big
bucks there for a reason.  I do agree that the grizzlie burger will
put people in the seats this year, but what about next? If you want
it to incerase annually then the league needs to put a better show
on the field with better players and a faster paced game. let the
fans count on seeing a certain core of 7 or 10 players every year to
build a relationship with those guys(phil Warren, Patterson) Of
course  better players come and youll have to increase the salaries,
but if you want the same fans to come back along with new ones, the
age and salary limits need to go so better players will come and
then the only time the leave willl be to sign with an affliated
team.  Whay doesent anyone get signed till they leave? Because
dominating in the frontier league doesent  mean they will do well in
affliated baseball, the compitition isnt that good. Same reason Joe
Dooley and Patty left to play in the atlantic league, the competiton
is alot better and if they do well there, they will do well in
affliated ball as well.  To all those who think they deserve more I
hope you get your shot against top flight competition and see that
your not as good as you think!
BENJI

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Hello all, just thought I would chime in and give my 2 pennies too.
Manzo, settle down you aint gonna get anywhere in convincing 
disgruntled players they arent getting paid enough. Fact is incog,
gatewaygriz, if you where good enough to get paid the money you
want, you wouldnt be in the frontier league, swallow hard and own up
to the fact that you arent as good as the guys getting paid period! 
Bergy, why dont you sign me then if all you have to do is be able to
play at the AA level, show me where to sign. Breyman is another guy
that could play there whats the rebutle now. Bergy as a scout you
should know teams dont want guys that project to double A, they want
guys for the big leagues and thts it, when they dont thik youll make
it your done thats it. I had a great year last year, why didnt I get
signed. Fact is, there is good talent in this league, none great.
Older players do well in the league, young players dont. Since the
players that do well are older they dont get sigend. since the
younger players need ALOT of work they dont get signed. To my two
Disgruntled players ( I AGREE JOE) Your not getting paid the big
bucks there for a reason.  I do agree that the grizzlie burger will
put people in the seats this year, but what about next? If you want
it to incerase annually then the league needs to put a better show
on the field with better players and a faster paced game. let the
fans count on seeing a certain core of 7 or 10 players every year to
build a relationship with those guys(phil Warren, Patterson) Of
course  better players come and youll have to increase the salaries,
but if you want the same fans to come back along with new ones, the
age and salary limits need to go so better players will come and
then the only time the leave willl be to sign with an affliated
team.  Whay doesent anyone get signed till they leave? Because
dominating in the frontier league doesent  mean they will do well in
affliated baseball, the compitition isnt that good. Same reason Joe
Dooley and Patty left to play in the atlantic league, the competiton
is alot better and if they do well there, they will do well in
affliated ball as well.  To all those who think they deserve more I
hope you get your shot against top flight competition and see that
your not as good as you think!
BENJI

Hello all, just thought I would chime in and give my 2 pennies too.
Manzo, settle down you aint gonna get anywhere in convincing
disgruntled players they arent getting paid enough. Fact is incog,
gatewaygriz, if you where good enough to get paid the money you
want, you wouldnt be in the frontier league, swallow hard and own up
to the fact that you arent as good as the guys getting paid period!
Bergy, why dont you sign me then if all you have to do is be able to
play at the AA level, show me where to sign. Breyman is another guy
that could play there whats the rebutle now. Bergy as a scout you
should know teams dont want guys that project to double A, they want
guys for the big leagues and thts it, when they dont thik youll make
it your done thats it. I had a great year last year, why didnt I get
signed. Fact is, there is good talent in this league, none great.
Older players do well in the league, young players dont. Since the
players that do well are older they dont get sigend. since the
younger players need ALOT of work they dont get signed. To my two
Disgruntled players ( I AGREE JOE) Your not getting paid the big
bucks there for a reason.  I do agree that the grizzlie burger will
put people in the seats this year, but what about next? If you want
it to incerase annually then the league needs to put a better show
on the field with better players and a faster paced game. let the
fans count on seeing a certain core of 7 or 10 players every year to
build a relationship with those guys(phil Warren, Patterson) Of
course  better players come and youll have to increase the salaries,
but if you want the same fans to come back along with new ones, the
age and salary limits need to go so better players will come and
then the only time the leave willl be to sign with an affliated
team.  Whay doesent anyone get signed till they leave? Because
dominating in the frontier league doesent  mean they will do well in
affliated baseball, the compitition isnt that good. Same reason Joe
Dooley and Patty left to play in the atlantic league, the competiton
is alot better and if they do well there, they will do well in
affliated ball as well.  To all those who think they deserve more I
hope you get your shot against top flight competition and see that
your not as good as you think!
BENJI

--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "topdogzone"
<topdogzone@...> wrote:
>
> Let's get to the point about how minor league baseball works...
>
> It's show business mixed with baseball...
>
> I'm sure Tony doesn't need national tv appearances to feel good
about
> the job he does... but his job is to fill stands first.. then
Frontier
> League titles are nice after that...  he continues to keep the
> Grizzlies experience fresh... in other places it would
be "yesterday's
> fad" already for the less than hard core fans...
>
> It's up to players to put up good numbers to have a chance at
bigger
> things.. Tony Funderburg doesn't have to make like a college SID
> promoting a player's Heisman chances... in the internet era... a
kid
> with good stuff will be found out whether there is a scout looking
at
> him in person or not....  in fact baseball scouting departments
are
> getting more and more done without scouts on the road...
>
> The Grizzly Burger publicity is a coup for the team and it's good
for
> the players.. because it's good for them to play before a packed
> house.. and a more successful organization gets more attention for
the
> players....
>
Thats the way independent baseball works, not minor league affliated
baseball.

Grizzlie Fans,

I seen alot of talk on the web about some unhappy people.  Manzo is right. 
Ive played affilated and Gateway goes above and beyond what any other
affilated team has done.  Not only from meals before and after games, but
even whlie we are on the road.  Never in my career has any team ever took
there players out for a nice dinner like Gateway did three times last year. 
Some teams dont even offer host families.  Before I came to the Grizzlies
last year I had $420 a month taken out of my check for room and board.  Just
an example of how the grizzlies take care of there players:  I was trying to
get in and see a Doctor jst two weeks ago, but as many of you know its very
hard to do if you dont have a family doctor. I called Geof Manzo a person
affilated with the Grizzlies as you all know, and he was able to get me in
that same day.  Yes we do not get paid very much, but you have to remember
it not always about the money.  Some people actually still play for the love
of the game.  Yes I would love nothing more than to get paid a little more,
but the only way to get that is to produce on the field.  As for the
comments about Gateway not moving any players on to higher levels,  there
are scouts at every game and i know for a fact that every team in major
league baseball team has a scout that covers the Frontier League.  If you
have concerns about players and the way they are treated then you need to
talk with a player.  There may be some players that are unhappy, but Im
willing to bet that the majority of us are very happy.  Manzo thanks again
for getting me in to see the Doc.

Marcus Barriger   (Sarge)



>From: "Joe" <joeball4@...>
>Reply-To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Re: Schemes and Conspiracies
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:14:56 -0000
>
>Geof Manzo B@$!%!!!!  Whats happening?  It's great to see you still
>getting riled up at things.  Only a little while longer before you
>are fining jerks that hide in the stands during stretch.
>
>I will put good money down that incog and the other guy are former
>players.  I would actually put more than money.  I have met many
>disgruntled players in my day, and they sound the part.
>
>Anyone that knocks the boosters has no brain.  Out of everywhere I
>have been, NO ONE takes care of players like the Funderburgs do.
>There isn't even a close second.
>
>Joe Dooley
>
>
>--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, grizzatc <no_reply@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are
>a
> > couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives
>gatewaygriz?
> > Why so disgruntled incog?
> >
> > As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years
>now, I
> > am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care
>of.
> > The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the
>players.
> > Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
> > boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As
>far as
> > health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards
>to
> > supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
> > prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
> > compensation issue.
> >
> > It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to
>play
> > baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the
>merchandising
> > and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
> > provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money
>is
> > not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want
>more
> > money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
> > produce on the field so they can get to the next level.
> >
> > So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
> > advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about
>these
> > issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the
>solution
> > then you are part of the problem.
> >
> > Good day.
> >
> > Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
> > Head Athletic Trainer
> > Gateway Grizzlies
> >
>
>
>
>
>




---
Gateway Grizzlies | Sauget, IL
2004 Frontier League Champions

Grizzlie Fans,

I seen alot of talk on the web about some unhappy people.  Manzo is right.
Ive played affilated and Gateway goes above and beyond what any other
affilated team has done.  Not only from meals before and after games, but
even whlie we are on the road.  Never in my career has any team ever took
there players out for a nice dinner like Gateway did three times last year.
Some teams dont even offer host families.  Before I came to the Grizzlies
last year I had $420 a month taken out of my check for room and board.  Just
an example of how the grizzlies take care of there players:  I was trying to
get in and see a Doctor jst two weeks ago, but as many of you know its very
hard to do if you dont have a family doctor. I called Geof Manzo a person
affilated with the Grizzlies as you all know, and he was able to get me in
that same day.  Yes we do not get paid very much, but you have to remember
it not always about the money.  Some people actually still play for the love
of the game.  Yes I would love nothing more than to get paid a little more,
but the only way to get that is to produce on the field.  As for the
comments about Gateway not moving any players on to higher levels,  there
are scouts at every game and i know for a fact that every team in major
league baseball team has a scout that covers the Frontier League.  If you
have concerns about players and the way they are treated then you need to
talk with a player.  There may be some players that are unhappy, but Im
willing to bet that the majority of us are very happy.  Manzo thanks again
for getting me in to see the Doc.

Marcus Barriger   (Sarge)



>From: "Joe" <joeball4@...>
>Reply-To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Re: Schemes and Conspiracies
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:14:56 -0000
>
>Geof Manzo B@$!%!!!!  Whats happening?  It's great to see you still
>getting riled up at things.  Only a little while longer before you
>are fining jerks that hide in the stands during stretch.
>
>I will put good money down that incog and the other guy are former
>players.  I would actually put more than money.  I have met many
>disgruntled players in my day, and they sound the part.
>
>Anyone that knocks the boosters has no brain.  Out of everywhere I
>have been, NO ONE takes care of players like the Funderburgs do.
>There isn't even a close second.
>
>Joe Dooley
>
>
>--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, grizzatc <no_reply@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are
>a
> > couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives
>gatewaygriz?
> > Why so disgruntled incog?
> >
> > As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years
>now, I
> > am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care
>of.
> > The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the
>players.
> > Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
> > boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As
>far as
> > health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards
>to
> > supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
> > prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
> > compensation issue.
> >
> > It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to
>play
> > baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the
>merchandising
> > and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
> > provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money
>is
> > not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want
>more
> > money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
> > produce on the field so they can get to the next level.
> >
> > So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
> > advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about
>these
> > issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the
>solution
> > then you are part of the problem.
> >
> > Good day.
> >
> > Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
> > Head Athletic Trainer
> > Gateway Grizzlies
> >
>
>
>
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of grizzatc
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:01 PM
To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Schemes and Conspiracies

Greetings!

How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are a
couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives gatewaygriz? 
Why so disgruntled incog?

As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years now, I
am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care of. 
The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the players. 
Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As far as
health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards to
supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
compensation issue.

It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to play
baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the merchandising
and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money is
not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want more
money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
produce on the field so they can get to the next level.

So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about these
issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the solution
then you are part of the problem.

Good day.

Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
Head Athletic Trainer
Gateway Grizzlies

Greetings!

How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are a
couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives gatewaygriz? 
Why so disgruntled incog?

As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years now, I
am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care of. 
The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the players. 
Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As far as
health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards to
supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
compensation issue.

It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to play
baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the merchandising
and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money is
not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want more
money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
produce on the field so they can get to the next level.

So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about these
issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the solution
then you are part of the problem.

Good day.

Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
Head Athletic Trainer
Gateway Grizzlies

Manzo, what's up man?
Hope everything is working out well for ya.
Incog, is not smart. Lets just leave it at that.


Brady B.

Geof Manzo B@$!%!!!!  Whats happening?  It's great to see you still
getting riled up at things.  Only a little while longer before you
are fining jerks that hide in the stands during stretch. 

I will put good money down that incog and the other guy are former
players.  I would actually put more than money.  I have met many
disgruntled players in my day, and they sound the part.

Anyone that knocks the boosters has no brain.  Out of everywhere I
have been, NO ONE takes care of players like the Funderburgs do. 
There isn't even a close second.

Joe Dooley


--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, grizzatc <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
> How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are
a
> couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives
gatewaygriz? 
> Why so disgruntled incog?
>
> As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years
now, I
> am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care
of. 
> The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the
players. 
> Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
> boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As
far as
> health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards
to
> supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
> prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
> compensation issue.
>
> It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to
play
> baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the
merchandising
> and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
> provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money
is
> not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want
more
> money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
> produce on the field so they can get to the next level.
>
> So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
> advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about
these
> issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the
solution
> then you are part of the problem.
>
> Good day.
>
> Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
> Head Athletic Trainer
> Gateway Grizzlies
>

Geof Manzo B@$!%!!!!  Whats happening?  It's great to see you still
getting riled up at things.  Only a little while longer before you
are fining jerks that hide in the stands during stretch.

I will put good money down that incog and the other guy are former
players.  I would actually put more than money.  I have met many
disgruntled players in my day, and they sound the part.

Anyone that knocks the boosters has no brain.  Out of everywhere I
have been, NO ONE takes care of players like the Funderburgs do.
There isn't even a close second.

Joe Dooley


--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, grizzatc <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
> How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are
a
> couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives
gatewaygriz?
> Why so disgruntled incog?
>
> As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years
now, I
> am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care
of.
> The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the
players.
> Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
> boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As
far as
> health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards
to
> supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
> prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
> compensation issue.
>
> It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to
play
> baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the
merchandising
> and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
> provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money
is
> not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want
more
> money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
> produce on the field so they can get to the next level.
>
> So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
> advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about
these
> issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the
solution
> then you are part of the problem.
>
> Good day.
>
> Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
> Head Athletic Trainer
> Gateway Grizzlies
>

Greetings!

How is everyone out there in Grizzlies Land?  Apparently there are a
couple of individuals who are not so happy.  What gives gatewaygriz?
Why so disgruntled incog?

As a member of the on-field staff for three, going on four years now, I
am here to set the record straight.  The players are taken care of.
The booster club has gone above and beyond to support the players.
Even when there has been a few spoiled, ungreatful individuals the
boosters have supplied the clubhouse with food and supplies.  As far as
health issues are concerned, the boosters have bent over backwards to
supply these athletes with money to purchase splints, braces, and
prescription meds even when the situation was not a workers
compensation issue.

It is unfortunate that these athletes are not paid top dollar to play
baseball.  Then again Independent ball does not have the merchandising
and network deals that the big league clubs have.  The players are
provided with transportation, hotels, and meal money.  Meal money is
not a lot, but at least they get to eat.  Besides, if they want more
money and better perks then they need to continue to work hard and
produce on the field so they can get to the next level.

So Mr. Incog and Gatewaygriz I am calling you out.  Did you take
advantage of Tony Funderburg's offer to come in and speak about these
issues.  I imagine you haven't.  If you are not part of the solution
then you are part of the problem.

Good day.

Geof D. Manzo, MS, ATC/L
Head Athletic Trainer
Gateway Grizzlies

Let's get to the point about how minor league baseball works...

It's show business mixed with baseball... 

I'm sure Tony doesn't need national tv appearances to feel good about
the job he does... but his job is to fill stands first.. then Frontier
League titles are nice after that...  he continues to keep the
Grizzlies experience fresh... in other places it would be "yesterday's
fad" already for the less than hard core fans...

It's up to players to put up good numbers to have a chance at bigger
things.. Tony Funderburg doesn't have to make like a college SID
promoting a player's Heisman chances... in the internet era... a kid
with good stuff will be found out whether there is a scout looking at
him in person or not....  in fact baseball scouting departments are
getting more and more done without scouts on the road... 

The Grizzly Burger publicity is a coup for the team and it's good for
the players.. because it's good for them to play before a packed
house.. and a more successful organization gets more attention for the
players....

Let's get to the point about how minor league baseball works...

It's show business mixed with baseball...

I'm sure Tony doesn't need national tv appearances to feel good about
the job he does... but his job is to fill stands first.. then Frontier
League titles are nice after that...  he continues to keep the
Grizzlies experience fresh... in other places it would be "yesterday's
fad" already for the less than hard core fans...

It's up to players to put up good numbers to have a chance at bigger
things.. Tony Funderburg doesn't have to make like a college SID
promoting a player's Heisman chances... in the internet era... a kid
with good stuff will be found out whether there is a scout looking at
him in person or not....  in fact baseball scouting departments are
getting more and more done without scouts on the road...

The Grizzly Burger publicity is a coup for the team and it's good for
the players.. because it's good for them to play before a packed
house.. and a more successful organization gets more attention for the
players....

To be fair, the only guy who got picked up from Mid-Missouri was Pete
Eberhart.  He was signed by a scout that knew him from college, not
from anything he did with the Mavericks.  He had actually been
struggling with our team.  A spot opened up in the Blue Jays system
and they knew him and signed him.  The only player that scouts
actually came to see on our team was 19 year old Dantibo.  But there
aren't too many 19 year olds in the league that are hitting 94 mph
with a good split.  It's too bad he acted younger than 19.


--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "gatewaygriz"
<gatewaygriz@...> wrote:
>
> --- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "Monty" <wa9rew@> wrote:
> >
> >  Don't take credit for another Grizzly getting picked up.  Why
> aren't any of them getting picked up while with Gateway.  Something
> seems a little fishy.  You spend more time promoting a dumb burger
> than your players.  This is there career, there dream that they have
> devoted themselves to since they were little kids and a burger is
> more important?  Why does Mid Missouri and other terrible teams have
> guys picked up and none from Gateway.  I'm telling you there is
> something going on and it seems like winning and the bottom dollar
> are more important than the players careers.
> >
> >  Great news about Greg..................
> > Monty
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original Message-----
> > From: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Perry
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:20 PM
> > To: Yahoo Group 1Grizzlies
> > Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Greg Stevens
> >
> >
> > Another ex-Grizzlie moves to affilaited ball. Greg Stevens was
> purchsed by
> > the Detroit Tigers from the Northern League's Joliet Jackhammers.
> >
> >
> >
> > "This field, this game...it's a part of our past... it reminds us
> of all
> > that once was good and could be again."
> >
> > Tim's Unofficial Frontier League History site:
> http://flhistory.0catch.com
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Mail
> > Use
> >
> <http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38867/*http://photom
> ail.mai
> > l.yahoo.com> Photomail to share photos without annoying
> attachments.
> >
> > ---
> > Gateway Grizzlies | Sauget, IL
> > 2004 Frontier League Champions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > Minor
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball&w1=Minor+league+b
> >
> aseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+teams&c
> =3&s=91
> > &.sig=qVzVhs0u-16EtDdRPW3TKQ> league baseball  Minor
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w1=Minor+leag
> >
> ue+baseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+tea
> ms&c=3&
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> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball+teams&w1=Minor+le
> >
> ague+baseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+t
> eams&c=
> > 3&s=91&.sig=gHdVEVaQ4hwTNzGQCv30qg> league baseball teams
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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-----Original Message-----
From: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:33 AM
To: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Tony on ESPNs Cold Pizza

Tony you were great on Cold Pizza yesterday!

I recorded it and burned it to a DVD... I'll get it to you asap.

Is Skip as big a goof as seems on TV and radio?

Take it easy,
Schulte

--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "Monty" <wa9rew@...> wrote:
>
>  Don't take credit for another Grizzly getting picked up.  Why
aren't any of them getting picked up while with Gateway.  Something
seems a little fishy.  You spend more time promoting a dumb burger
than your players.  This is there career, there dream that they have
devoted themselves to since they were little kids and a burger is
more important?  Why does Mid Missouri and other terrible teams have
guys picked up and none from Gateway.  I'm telling you there is
something going on and it seems like winning and the bottom dollar
are more important than the players careers.
>
>  Great news about Greg..................
> Monty
>
>
>
>  Original Message-----
> From: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Perry
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: Yahoo Group 1Grizzlies
> Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Greg Stevens
>
>
> Another ex-Grizzlie moves to affilaited ball. Greg Stevens was
purchsed by
> the Detroit Tigers from the Northern League's Joliet Jackhammers.
>
>
>
> "This field, this game...it's a part of our past... it reminds us
of all
> that once was good and could be again."
>
> Tim's Unofficial Frontier League History site:
http://flhistory.0catch.com
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> Yahoo! Mail
> Use
>
<http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38867/*http://photom
ail.mai
> l.yahoo.com> Photomail to share photos without annoying
attachments.
>
> ---
> Gateway Grizzlies | Sauget, IL
> 2004 Frontier League Champions
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Minor
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball&w1=Minor+league+b
>
aseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+teams&c
=3&s=91
> &.sig=qVzVhs0u-16EtDdRPW3TKQ> league baseball  Minor
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w1=Minor+leag
>
ue+baseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+tea
ms&c=3&
> s=91&.sig=7A5Xpb0qing5mq1-bS-2Tw> league baseball cap  Minor
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball+teams&w1=Minor+le
>
ague+baseball&w2=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w3=Minor+league+baseball+t
eams&c=
> 3&s=91&.sig=gHdVEVaQ4hwTNzGQCv30qg> league baseball teams
>
>   _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
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>
>
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Service
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>
>   _____
>

Tony you were great on Cold Pizza yesterday!

I recorded it and burned it to a DVD... I'll get it to you asap.

Is Skip as big a goof as seems on TV and radio?

Take it easy,
Schulte

Hey how does it feel to have 2 and a half hours of work each day?
You know I have more lessons tomorrow than your whole facility does?
Ha. Must be nice my friend. But what can I expect, you are a pitcher
and three hours a day probably overwhlmes you  seeing that you guys
only work once a week anyways...
Benji

 Great news about Greg..................

Monty

 

 

 

 Original Message-----
From: GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Perry
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:20 PM
To: Yahoo Group 1Grizzlies
Subject: [Gateway Grizzlies] Greg Stevens

Another ex-Grizzlie moves to affilaited ball. Greg Stevens was purchsed by the Detroit Tigers from the Northern League's Joliet Jackhammers.

"This field, this game...it's a part of our past... it reminds us of all that once was good and could be again."

Tim's Unofficial Frontier League History site: http://flhistory.0catch.com

---

Yahoo! Mail
Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

4th Annual Easter Egg Hunt. The hunting begins at 10:00 a.m. with 10
minutes between each hunt. The age group for hunts are 1-2 year olds, 3-
4 year olds, 5-6 year olds, 7-8 year olds, 9-10 year olds, and 11-12
year olds. The Shawn Hornbeck Foundation will be on hand finger
printing children.  For more details call (618) 337-3000.

Can someone post the details about the upcoming Easter Egg Hunt.

Thanks,
Mark