GatewayGrizzlies : Message: RE: [Gateway Grizzlies] Re: Frontier League

Way to go Joe! Thanks for setting the record straight with insight from
both sides as well as the inside of this issue.
Question for you, are you attending any of the Independent League Meetings
being held in St Louis over the nxt 3 days?
thanks,

tim trueblood
Crestwood, MO>

<tt>
Perhaps I never should have replied in this group in the first place, 
but now that I have my credibility questioned, I feel I have to. . . 
First things first-since you so freely question my credibility 
perhaps someone should challenge your credibility. You know who I am 
and what I do-we know you only as "anonymous disturbed fan." As I
 
said before, the Grizzlies do NOT set the salary cap or limits-the 
league does. You seem to understand this, but still want to raise the 
argument of what salaries are. As for your comment about none of the 
players making the league max: it is not for me to comment on what 
players make what money (I do NOT know most of the players'salaries) 
I will say perhaps you should check your facts more closely. On your 
question as to whether or not I would trade my salary in the summer 
for what the players make: again I would ask you to check your facts. 
You do not know what I make, and I will tell you only that if you 
broke my salary down by hour you would see that NOBODY is getting 
rich here. I however, like the players, knew what I was getting into. 
I, like MOST of the players, are happy to be a part of the finest 
organization in the FL. I am happy to be in baseball and broadcasting 
just as most of these players are happy to be playing baseball. If 
any of the players are unhappy with their situations they are free to 
leave. Please remember each player is given a place to live for the 
summer, meal money on road trips (it isn't much but I get it too) And 
the finest booster club in the league that provides these players 
with food and comforts that most of the folks in and around the 
league never see. I assure you there are much worse things than being 
a FL player for a summer. As Mr. Bergheger pointed out, this IS a 
developmental league. Quite a few of these guys would not be playing 
pro ball if it weren't for the FL. While I fully agree with your 
right to question the salary structure in the league as a whole, I do 
not appreciate you questioning the way the Grizzlies treat their 
players and certainly don't appreciate you challenging my credibility. 
 
"Not so anonymous disturbed broadcaster." 
 
--- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "incog202003" 
<incog202003@y...> wrote: 
> 
> Mr Broadcaster, Even though the league sets the salaries, shouldnt 
> the league max be higher than only $1200 per month?? Not just the 
> grizzlie players, but all of the players in the league are being 
> treated unfairly. I have heard, some players have side jobs but are
 
> still expected to be at the park from 3 til 10pm?!!Lets say for 
> instance that everyone on the team makes $1200/month. Thats $600 
> every 2 weeks, before taxes. After taxes it is probably much 
> closerto the $450 every 2 weeks. Now thats just the players who 
> make the league max...from what I've heard, none of the 2005 
> grizzlies where paid the league max! At a job that your required 
to 
> be present pretty much 8 hours a day/ 7 days a week/ the ENTIRE 
> SUMMER. Joe @ $450 every 2 weeks, your right $4 an hour is pretty 
> fair. I wonder if you would trade your salary during the summer 
with 
> one of the players and think that its fair. But the league gets 
> around the minnmum wage laws, by paying them for 1 hour of work 
per 
> day, the games alone are (ecspcially last year) 3 hours! As a 
> season ticket holder the last 2 years, I know that the grizzlies 
> have there hands tied, but if the league would increase the salary 
> limits teams would get better players also. Joe I love listening to
 
> you on the radio, but supporting the fact that the players on the 
> teams are being treated fairly, you have lost credibility in mine 
> and others eyes. Your closer to these players than even us season 
> ticket holders could ever dream to be If you wont defend them, who 
> will I wonder? There is no Union for these 50 guys on the field. 
> With gas prices as high as they are I wonder how many of th 06' 
> Grizzlies will be able to afford to drive to the field and eat 
> dinner in the same day!- Anonymous disturbed Fan 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "joepott"
<joepott@y...> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > I'm sorry you feel that the players are being treated unfairly. I
 
> can 
> > tell you that they are treated better than many teams in the 
> league. 
> > As for the salaries-they are NOT determined by each individual
 
> club. 
> > They are determined by the Frontier League. 
> > 
> > --- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "gatewaygriz"
 
> > <gatewaygriz@y...> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > I wonder how the players feel. We love to go to watch our
team 
> play 
> > > and hang out in the stands, but I wonder what it is like on
the 
> > other 
> > > side. With the last letter that Bill Lee wrote about the
 
> players 
> > just 
> > > being the "side show" so to speak, what is this all
about. I 
> have 
> > > heard from a very reliable un named source that at Gateway
they 
> make 
> > > enough money in concessions alone on average to pay all of
the 
> > plyers 
> > > saleries for the entire year. Some nights double that. Is
 
this 
> > > right? Are the players being treated fairly? Does the
league 
> just 
> > > look at them as a side show? I understand this is a business
 
> but 
> > they 
> > > should make more money. 
> > > 
> > 
> 
 
 
 
 
</tt>

 
<tt>
--- 
Gateway Grizzlies | Sauget, IL 
2004 Frontier League Champions</tt>
 

 
<div style="width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090">
<tt>SPONSORED LINKS</tt>
</div>
<table bgcolor="#e0ecee" cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px>
<tr valign=top>
<td style="width:25%">
<tt><a
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w1=M\
inor+league+baseball+cap&w2=Baseball+memorabilia+sports&w3=Sports+baseba\
ll&w4=Baseball+sports+equipment&c=4&s=116&.sig=d4Yp93T5vB7EhMUsO\
z4hIQ">Minor
league baseball cap</a></tt>
</td>
<td style="width:25%">
<tt><a
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Baseball+memorabilia+sports&w1\
=Minor+league+baseball+cap&w2=Baseball+memorabilia+sports&w3=Sports+base\
ball&w4=Baseball+sports+equipment&c=4&s=116&.sig=4Dl7AJJGFZIVKv4\
DZWeJAw">Baseball
memorabilia sports</a></tt>
</td>
<td style="width:25%">
<tt><a
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sports+baseball&w1=Minor+leagu\
e+baseball+cap&w2=Baseball+memorabilia+sports&w3=Sports+baseball&w4=\
Baseball+sports+equipment&c=4&s=116&.sig=U4W10W4E7whMp_Kt9Wq9gw">Spo\
rts
baseball</a></tt>
</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=top>
<td style="width:25%">
<tt><a
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Baseball+sports+equipment&w1=M\
inor+league+baseball+cap&w2=Baseball+memorabilia+sports&w3=Sports+baseba\
ll&w4=Baseball+sports+equipment&c=4&s=116&.sig=wWgMl21aKkrKknjWO\
h4dcA">Baseball
sports equipment</a></tt>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

 
<div style="text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px">
<hr style="border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left">
<tt>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS</tt>
</div>
 
<ul>
<tt><li type=square> Visit your group "<a
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GatewayGrizzlies">GatewayGrizzlies</a>"
on the web. </tt>
<tt><li type=square> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
to: <a
href="mailto:GatewayGrizzlies-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe">G\
atewayGrizzlies-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</a> </tt>
<tt><li type=square> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt>
</ul>
 
<div style="text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px">
<hr style="border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left">
</div>


</body></html>

 </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...

Messages

Yahoo! My Yahoo! Mail
	Sign In New User? Sign Up
		Sports - Groups - Help

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...

Best of Y! Groups

Messages