I agree with you totally Steve. The question that I posed was primarily to incog. The guys are happy to have the shot and maybe just a last hoorah. I can't believe the atmosphere that the Grizzlies and the fans provide for them. I love it out there at the stadium. It is the closest thing to the big leagues that anyone could have. I think that they are happy to be part of the best organization in the league with the best fans and the best stadium. When I played ball in Canada I rode on a bear truck for my pay and stayed in a families home to live. That was one of the most memorable times of my life.
Incog, it takes a lot of money to put 25 players on a bus, put them in a hotel& feed them. The profit from concessions that you mentioned is only at home games. I can't imagine the overhead in general. It would seem to me to be a very complex business. Concessions feed only half of the season.
I think that we get a heck of a lot of bang for our buck.
On the other hand incogs concerns reflect the caring natue of our fans and shouldn't go unrecognized. The players ultimately provide us with the entertainment that we love but are only one cog in the wheel. I think that incogs intentions are admirable but there is a much bigger picutre to consider.
I am a big fan and I think that the Grizzlies are one of the greatest things that have come to the East Side in a long time. They seem to get bigger and better each year and I hope that we have them for many years to come.
steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...> wrote:
steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...> wrote:
It's not an issue for me. If you're wanting the players to make more you're gonna have to pay more to watch the games. Concessions prices will have to rise. I'm not so sure you want to go there. This league gives these guys a chance to play. A shot...to put it in baseball terms. And they get a little pocket change for the chance to show a big league club what they can do. It sure beats not playing. IT IS A BUSINESS. These guys know what to expect before they get here. There's just not much money to be made in baseball unless you are in the show. How much money do you want to pay these guys?In regards to your question...The club needs to make money to be able to put a product on the field. Again...the players just want a chance...the Grizzlies and the Frontier League is providing that.
Richard Reinhardt <chiro142@...> wrote:Are you more concerned about the lack of money that the players or the amount of money that the organization is making?
steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...> wrote:As a season ticketholder since the stadium opened...and a parent of a former player...most of the players that compete in the league are just happy to be getting a chance to play. The minimum salary for an affiliated team is just $1,150. It goes up $100 every year of service.The better players in the league make the higher salaries as it should be. Joe is hardly out of line and the Grizzlies are NOT making that much money. They do have expenses and salaries.As far as players working...My son was in the league for 4 years and never saw that happen.It's a bit of a strain...but with good family support they'll be ok. If they can't make it and they struggle... they know it's time to give up their dream and get on with life. As far as we're concerned...we were very thankful for the opportunity that the Grizzlies and the Frontier league provided.
incog202003 <incog202003@...> wrote:Mr Broadcaster, Even though the league sets the salaries, shouldnt
the league max be higher than only $1200 per month?? Not just the
grizzlie players, but all of the players in the league are being
treated unfairly. I have heard, some players have side jobs but are
still expected to be at the park from 3 til 10pm?!!Lets say for
instance that everyone on the team makes $1200/month. Thats $600
every 2 weeks, before taxes. After taxes it is probably much
closerto the $450 every 2 weeks. Now thats just the players who
make the league max...from what I've heard, none of the 2005
grizzlies where paid the league max! At a job that your required to
be present pretty much 8 hours a day/ 7 days a week/ the ENTIRE
SUMMER. Joe @ $450 every 2 weeks, your right $4 an hour is pretty
fair. I wonder if you would trade your salary during the summer with
one of the players and think that its fair. But the league gets
around the minnmum wage laws, by paying them for 1 hour of work per
day, the games alone are (ecspcially last year) 3 hours! As a
season ticket holder the last 2 years, I know that the grizzlies
have there hands tied, but if the league would increase the salary
limits teams would get better players also. Joe I love listening to
you on the radio, but supporting the fact that the players on the
teams are being treated fairly, you have lost credibility in mine
and others eyes. Your closer to these players than even us season
ticket holders could ever dream to be If you wont defend them, who
will I wonder? There is no Union for these 50 guys on the field.
With gas prices as high as they are I wonder how many of th 06'
Grizzlies will be able to afford to drive to the field and eat
dinner in the same day!- Anonymous disturbed Fan
-- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "joepott" <joepott@y...>
wrote:
>
> I'm sorry you feel that the players are being treated unfairly. I
can
> tell you that they are treated better than many teams in the
league.
> As for the salaries-they are NOT determined by each individual
club.
> They are determined by the Frontier League.
>
> --- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "gatewaygriz"
> <gatewaygriz@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how the players feel. We love to go to watch our team
play
> > and hang out in the stands, but I wonder what it is like on the
> other
> > side. With the last letter that Bill Lee wrote about the
players
> just
> > being the "side show" so to speak, what is this all about. I
have
> > heard from a very reliable un named source that at Gateway they
make
> > enough money in concessions alone on average to pay all of the
> plyers
> > saleries for the entire year. Some nights double that. Is this
> > right? Are the players being treated fairly? Does the league
just
> > look at them as a side show? I understand this is a business
but
> they
> > should make more money.
> >
>
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