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Re: [Gateway Grizzlies] Re: Frontier League

Are you more concerned about the lack of money that the players or the amount of money that the organization is making?

steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...> wrote:
As a season ticketholder since the stadium opened...and a parent of a former player...most of the players that compete in the league are just happy to be getting a chance to play.   The minimum salary for an affiliated  team is just $1,150.   It goes up $100 every year of service.
The better players in the league make the higher salaries as it should be.   Joe is hardly out of line and the Grizzlies are NOT making that much money.  They do have expenses and salaries.
 
As far as players working...My son was in the league for 4 years and never saw that happen.
It's a bit of a strain...but with good family support they'll be ok.   If they can't make it and they struggle... they know it's time to give up their dream and get on with life.   As far as we're concerned...we were very thankful for the opportunity that the Grizzlies and the Frontier league provided.


incog202003 <incog202003@...> wrote:
Mr Broadcaster, Even though the league sets the salaries, shouldnt
the league max be higher than only $1200 per month?? Not just the
grizzlie players, but all of the players in the league are being
treated unfairly. I have heard, some players have side jobs but are
still expected to be at the park from 3 til 10pm?!!Lets say for
instance that everyone on the team makes $1200/month. Thats $600
every 2 weeks, before taxes.  After taxes it is probably much
closerto the $450 every 2 weeks.  Now thats just the players who
make the league max...from what I've heard, none of the 2005
grizzlies where paid the league max!  At a job that your required to
be present pretty much 8 hours a day/ 7 days a week/ the ENTIRE
SUMMER.  Joe @ $450 every 2 weeks, your right $4 an hour is pretty
fair. I wonder if you would trade your salary during the summer with
one of the players and think that its fair.  But the league gets
around the minnmum wage laws, by paying them  for 1 hour of work per
day, the games alone are (ecspcially last year) 3 hours!  As a
season ticket holder the last 2 years, I know that the grizzlies
have there hands tied, but if the league would increase the salary
limits teams would get better players also. Joe I love listening to
you on the radio, but supporting the fact that the players on the
teams are being treated fairly, you have lost credibility in mine
and others eyes. Your closer to these players than even us season
ticket holders could ever dream to be If you wont defend them, who
will I wonder? There is no Union for these 50 guys on the field.
With gas prices as high as they are I wonder how many of th 06'
Grizzlies will be able to afford to drive to the field and eat
dinner in the same day!- Anonymous disturbed Fan


















-- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "joepott" <joepott@y...>
wrote:
>
> I'm sorry you feel that the players are being treated unfairly. I
can
> tell you that they are treated better than many teams in the
league. 
> As for the salaries-they are NOT determined by each individual
club.
> They are determined by the Frontier League.
>
> --- In GatewayGrizzlies@yahoogroups.com, "gatewaygriz"
> <gatewaygriz@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how the players feel.  We love to go to watch our team
play
> > and hang out in the stands, but I wonder what it is like on the
> other
> > side.  With the last letter that Bill Lee wrote about the
players
> just
> > being the "side show" so to speak, what is this all about.  I
have
> > heard from a very reliable un named source that at Gateway they
make
> > enough money in concessions alone on average to pay all of the
> plyers
> > saleries for the entire year.  Some nights double that.  Is this
> > right?  Are the players being treated fairly?  Does the league
just
> > look at them as a side show?  I understand this is a business
but
> they
> > should make more money.
> >
>






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I wonder how the players feel. We love to go to watch our team play and hang out in the stands, but I wonder what it is like on the other side. With the last...
gatewaygriz
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Oct 10, 2005
6:43 pm

I'm sorry you feel that the players are being treated unfairly. I can tell you that they are treated better than many teams in the league. As for the...
joepott
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Oct 10, 2005
8:15 pm

Speaking from experience, I have to agree with Joe Pott. The Players were treated GREAT while playing for the Grizzlies. We had the best Field in the league...
Mark
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Oct 11, 2005
12:50 pm

HMMM being a half season ticket holder for the past 3 seasons and already for 2006 I have had a chance To talk with a number of players and never did have one...
Monty
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Oct 11, 2005
3:26 pm

I can tell you from my standpoint as a parent of a player, a scout and a season ticket holder. The Gateway Grizzlies are a class organization. It starts at...
steve bergheger
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Oct 11, 2005
7:11 pm

Way to go Joe! Thanks for setting the record straight with insight from both sides as well as the inside of this issue. Question for you, are you attending...
tim trueblood
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Oct 31, 2005
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Tim- I will be at the meetings most of the day tomorrow. At least for the morning. ... from ... Meetings ... place, <br> ... to. . .<br> ... am <br> ... fan."...
joepott
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Oct 31, 2005
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... Monty ... Perhaps I never should have replied in this group in the first place, but now that I have my credibility questioned, I feel I have to. . . First...
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Oct 31, 2005
1:51 pm

Mr Broadcaster, Even though the league sets the salaries, shouldnt the league max be higher than only $1200 per month?? Not just the grizzlie players, but all...
incog202003
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Oct 29, 2005
8:49 pm

As a season ticketholder since the stadium opened...and a parent of a former player...most of the players that compete in the league are just happy to be...
steve bergheger
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Oct 29, 2005
11:21 pm

Are you more concerned about the lack of money that the players or the amount of money that the organization is making? steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...>...
Richard Reinhardt
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Oct 30, 2005
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It's not an issue for me. If you're wanting the players to make more you're gonna have to pay more to watch the games. Concessions prices will have to...
steve bergheger
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Oct 30, 2005
5:21 am

I agree with you totally Steve. The question that I posed was primarily to incog. The guys are happy to have the shot and maybe just a last hoorah. I can't...
Richard Reinhardt
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Oct 30, 2005
12:58 pm

There's a reason player salaries in the FL are lower than in say, the Northern League. A decision was made in 1992 before the league ever started playing for...
Tim Perry
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Oct 30, 2005
2:26 pm

Sorry...I mis-read your comment. Anyway...I think incog means well...just doesn't understand how it works. Richard Reinhardt <chiro142@...> wrote:I...
steve bergheger
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Oct 30, 2005
11:20 pm

Perhaps I never should have replied in this group in the first place, but now that I have my credibility questioned, I feel I have to. . . First things...
joepott
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Oct 31, 2005
2:39 am

Well stated Joe, I totally agree with you. Mark Schulte 2002 Grizzlie...
Mark
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Oct 31, 2005
2:31 pm

Joe, can you post some info on what goes on at the meetings? I'm out of town until Wednesday night but I'd like to know if any news breaks. Tim "This field,...
Tim Perry
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Oct 31, 2005
11:22 pm

Tim- Not much to report from my end of the meetings. I am not privy to the GM meetings, board of directors meetings etc. Though I will say I haven't heard any...
joepott
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Nov 1, 2005
5:01 pm

I think most of the fans are not aware of how the operation of a minor league club works. joepott <joepott@...> wrote:Perhaps I never should have replied...
steve bergheger
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Oct 31, 2005
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steve bergheger <jdcalypso23@...> wrote:I think most of the fans are not aware of how the operation of a minor league club works. Now add also that we...
Tim Perry
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Oct 31, 2005
11:29 pm

Bergy, Haveing played minor league baseball for the better part of a decade, I am well aware of how the thing works. the point I was trying to make was that...
incog202003
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Nov 2, 2005
9:27 pm

Not to mention that if the players need health insurance, they need to go elsewhere. Guys this isnt a complete trashing of the gateway grizzilies...
incog202003
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Nov 2, 2005
10:14 pm

You have obviously struck a nerve...Good discussion. All is taken with good intentions. The health insurance issue is another story...but it is in everyday...
steve bergheger
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Nov 3, 2005
12:59 am

... Hey, it's been dead in my group. I'm glad to see someone's still talking about the FL. "This field, this game...it's a part of our past... it reminds us of...
Tim Perry
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