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Re: [Flevofan] New Member

Christoph Doerffel wrote:
> > One question I would like to ask is what is the normal dimensions of the
> > square tubing used by selfbuilders.
> for solo bikes 40mm x 40mm x 1,5mm
> for tandems 60mm x 40mm x 2mm or 50mm x 50mm x 2mm

For a well constructed frame 1,5mm wall thickness is sufficient even at a
tandem. The Zox tandem uses 2mm because it has very long single tube-parts
and a long main tube. But even with the 2mm wall thickness it is still not
very stiff.
Our BTB-tandem has 50x50x1,5 and it feels quite stiff. But it has very short
parts of one single tube only.

So think about a good frame design and you can save some weight, too.

Martin
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Thu Mar 5, 2009 9:49 pm

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Hello all, I'm new to the list. Living in NW USA near Seattle and Vancouver, BC. I have been studying velomobiles for just a few weeks. Until recently, I...
Michael Jaross
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Aug 4, 2004
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Hi Michael, ... Although the firm Flevobike produces the Versatile it is something different than the Flevo Bike which is mainly discussed in this discussion...
Martin Anderseck
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Aug 4, 2004
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Hi Michael, ... although velomobiles are not the center issue on this list, welcome anyway! ... what is expensive? When it is worth its price? I am on the...
Hanno Hirsch
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Aug 4, 2004
8:59 pm

Hello together, ... That's not always a disadvantage: I don't know how it is in the Leitra, but a velomobile such as the Alleweder normally is relatively loud...
Martin Anderseck
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Aug 5, 2004
2:33 pm

-Hi Everyone My name is Bruce McDowell and I live in Christchurch, New Zealand I am 73 years old and have been building recumbent cycles and trikes for about 4...
percy7304
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Aug 9, 2004
5:15 am

Hi All from Ireland I have just joined the Flevofan group. I hope to build a tandem so I can bring my son to and from school instead of using the car. A tandem...
James Maher
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Mar 5, 2009
1:35 pm

Great project! I have no advice, but I eagerly await your progress. John Boston...
Bailey
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Mar 5, 2009
2:28 pm

Hello, ... for solo bikes 40mm x 40mm x 1,5mm for tandems 60mm x 40mm x 2mm or 50mm x 50mm x 2mm greetings Christoph...
Christoph Doerffel
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Mar 5, 2009
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... For a well constructed frame 1,5mm wall thickness is sufficient even at a tandem. The Zox tandem uses 2mm because it has very long single tube-parts and a...
Martin Anderseck
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Mar 5, 2009
9:49 pm

Thanks to all for the advice. Time to go shopping I think Regards James...
James Maher
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Mar 6, 2009
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... Hi James, Welcome aboard! Here's a tandem built with square tubing and regular bike frame parts that may appeal to you....
Tim Karle
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Mar 7, 2009
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Thanks Tim Your a busy builder. Love the workshop. Thankfully people don't leave much on the roadside and health and safety rules don't allow skip diving at...
James Maher
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Mar 8, 2009
8:38 am

To all, Is the Flevobike stable at high speeds (30 to 45 Km/h)? Are there any Flevo owners in Florida? Thanks, Julio -- Julio Paredes Laboratory Data...
Julio Paredes
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Sep 27, 2009
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2009/9/27 Julio Paredes <jparedes@...> ... I've done speeds way up to 70km/h on a flevobike which is fine as long as the road is good. Otherwise the...
Koen Van den Bergh
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Sep 27, 2009
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Thank you....
ab6zh
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Sep 27, 2009
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AB6ZH, Is that a callsign? From KJ6ZL, Scotts Valley CA, with a homemade flevoracer....
jsisler
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Sep 27, 2009
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... Yes. Operating now from flat Florida....
ab6zh
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Sep 28, 2009
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Welcome to the world of Flevos! Do you have a bike now? One base on center-steering?...
jsisler
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Tnx for your welcome. No, I don't have a center steering bike yet. I only have conventional bikes: 1 road 2 mtbs BTW, I converted one of my MTBs to electric,...
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Sep 28, 2009
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Hej Julio, ... Seeing this I wonder which "direction" you would like to go to with a Flevo- like bike? Would you prefer it to be a road bike or rather an MTB?...
Martin Anderseck
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Sep 28, 2009
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Martin, I envision it more as a road bike. One used for commuting and to do errands around the neighborhood. Also thinking about adding an electric hub motor...
ab6zh
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Sep 28, 2009
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I have tried an electric rear hub on my homemade flevo racer. Very nice...... I have the battery pack located low under the seat. My main issue with it is the...
jsisler
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Yup! Now operating from balmy Florida....
ab6zh
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... Maybe the mounting of washing-machin-dampers is the solution. They help also at slow speed sharp curves and cycling down curbs. ...
Olaf Schultz
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Sep 27, 2009
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... Yes:-) Olaf, greetings across the atlantic ocean, Schultz -- Olaf Schultz Heimfelder Straße 77 21075 Hamburg Festnetz: 040 791 44 938 Mobil: 0176 491 73...
Olaf Schultz
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Sep 27, 2009
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Hej Julio, the Flevobike is absolutely stable at these speeds. I've cycled on my Flevobike up to around 80km/h. 70km/h is possible with a BoB trailer behind, ...
Martin Anderseck
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Sep 27, 2009
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C'mon, that doesn't count, Martin ! My grandfather was also fast climbing the Saanetsch (http://www.cycling-challenge.com/col-du-sanetsch/ ) in 1940, with an...
Frederic Fichter
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Sep 27, 2009
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Hi Martin, Thanks for the reply. YES, I am already reading the Velomobile list. I only wrote to FlevoFan hoping there was some "cross-over" between...
Michael Jaross
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Aug 5, 2004
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Hi Hanno, Thanks so much for your comments. I realize the Versatile is a little Off Topic for FlevoFanList, but I did get 4 replies immediately, and a lot of...
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