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#784 From: RowFL@...
Date: Sat May 31, 2003 2:51 pm
Subject: Sunshine State Games - Last Call rowfl
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Dear Friends in Rowing,

For individuals wishing to participate in the rowing competition on June 14, 2003 at the Tampa Bypass Canal, registration has been extended to those entry forms that are RECEIVED in Tallahassee by Thursday June 5. To get an entry form, go to www.flasports.com.

Remember, with the Sunshine State Games, you must be registered as an individual with the appropriate entry fees and waiver. THERE IS NO ON SITE REGISTRATION. Once you are registered as an individual, you may change your race entries up until the final deadline, which is when the official on the water drops the red starters flag!

We are working to sort the entries received to date and put together a racing schedule that hopefully will accomodate most people's needs. After June 5, we would like to email the racing schedule out to the persons handling the team entries and the scullers, as well as to these group lists. If you are a leader with your group, a sculler handling your own entries, please send your email address to the address below to be added to the update list. If your coach did not enter as an individual, we may or may not have his/her contact information, so please provide us something, preferably an email address.

Once the sequence of events is determined, we probably won't be able to change it significantly, since additional changes usually create new conflicts. We appreciate your understanding on how challenging it can be to make up a schedule that satisfies everyone, considering the unlimited doubling of equipment and rowers that is available. You should allow a minimum of 30 minutes to hot seat between races.

If you find that you will need to scratch any events, please email us as early as possible to reduce the changes on race day. You may email those changes to:

Tom.Feaster@....

Tom Feaster will be the Regatta Director while I will be the Course Manager. By the way, there are strong indications that this may be the last major regatta on the Tampa Bypass Canal since was first used over 20 years ago. The powers that be at the airport across the canal from the rowing site have been slowly moving toward putting in a bridge at the 450 meter mark. The path has been approved, soil tests have been done for where the pilings would go, and construction is due to begin this fall, but this project has been delayed in the past. Time will tell.

We are looking forward to another great regatta and seeing you all there!

Martyn Dennis
1950 Thunderbird Trail
Maitland, FL 32751

Cell (407) 694-5214
Home (407) 645-1404

See the rowing links at www.MartynDennis.com

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#785 From: Julia Crossley <juliacrossley@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [USRowingMasterLiasons] Blade Designs, colors, unis juliacrossley
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FYI: I have directed Margot to our FSRA Blades of Florida web page. If you have new or additional information, please send it to MargotZalkind@... directly.

Thanks, Brice.

MargotZalkind@... wrote:

As a service from USRowing, your national rowing organization, we are collecting ALL club/school blades and colors, for a national "directory." If a new school or club contacts us, we can quickly ascertain whether or not colors and design are "taken." Please send a jpg to: Margot@... (or hard copy if you do not have computer image) of your club's blade design and colors and uni colors, to us and we will organize them all. We will have this comprehensive group on our web site for all clubs and schools to refer to. Margot Zalkind Director of Member Services, USRowing for hard copy, send to: 44 Cherry Street Northampton, MA 01060 Margot@...

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#786 From: RowFL@...
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:38 pm
Subject: 2003 Sunshine State Games - Racing Schedule, First Draft rowfl
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Hello Everyone,

The racing schedule for this weekend's 2003 Sunshine State Games Rowing Regatta at the Tampa Bypass Canal is attached. Although my primary responsibilities will be on the water, I have been assisting Tom Feaster, the Race Director in sorting out the entry information. I think it would have been easier to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or find a cure for SARS than sorting all of this out, but hopefully it is fairly close.

Please review the schedule and respond back to me to make whatever changes can be made in advance to streamline the regatta meeting. If you can email me before Thursday night, it would be very helpful, since I will be at the site Friday getting prepared for Saturday. I will check again late Friday night, but the earlier changes are sent in, the better. Additional changes may also be made at the regatta meeting, but no changes will be made once the starter's red flag drops!

The schedule that was used last year (I believe) and has been posted on the website is the one we will be using. Events that did not have two boats were not listed and in some cases, those single entries were shifted to other similar races where they will race for medals in that closely related event.

The racing sequence may create some doubling conflicts of equipment or personnel, and if we can accommodate people, we will, but for the most part the schedule will be as it is, since additional changes can cause new problems.   If you do not have at least 30 minutes between races, please do not ask for hot seat considerations.

Registration opens at 8am, the regatta meeting is at 9am, with the first race at 10.   If you know of anyone that can volunteer for part of the day to help the regatta run more smoothly, please check in at the headquarters tent.

Have a safe trip and good luck with your racing!!!

Martyn Dennis

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Cell    407-694-5214

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#787 From: RowFL@...
Date: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:10 pm
Subject: 2003 Sunshine State Games - Racing Schedule, Second Draft rowfl
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Hello All,

Based on the responses I have received since yesterday, the attached schedule reflects the current round of changes.� Please continue to let me know of any other considerations. I'll check my email after I get the course set up on Friday and I'll pass them on to Tom Feaster to handle from here on out.

Part of this challenge, which hopefully will be addressed in future years is that the Florida Sports Council's book lists an offering of 68 possible events, including such hot races as the Women's Lightweight Junior Quad and the Women's Veteran (50+) Quad.� At least they eliminated last year's "Mixed Single" event!�

Once a regatta hits the 40 race mark, it's hard to get it all done in a day, so in the future we just need to recommend a more reasonable offering of events and stick to the racing schedule that is being used now, or something like it. But that's the future.

For now, let's get ready for a great day of racing, and do a "NO RAIN" dance, ok?

Martyn Dennis
1950 Thunderbird Trail
Maitland, FL 32751

Cell (407) 694-5214
Home (407) 645-1404

See the rowing links at www.MartynDennis.com

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#788 From: Battoe <Battoe@...>
Date: Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:16 am
Subject: Reviving the GATORHEAD Regatta for Nov. 8th, 2003 Battoe@...
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Gainesville Area Rowing is considering reviving the GATORHEAD Regatta
this Fall.  It will be held on the St. Johns River in Palatka on Nov.
8th if there is enough interest.  (This Gatorchaser Regatta will not be
held this year). The GATORHEAD will be brought to you by the same folks
who put on the CREW CLASSIC and be at the same venue.  It will be a
5,000 meter Head Race starting up-stream and finishing at the same
finish line as the Crewclassic.

Coaches/Boosters - If you are interested, please send me an e-mail at
battoe@... concerning your level of interest or intention to
attend.  We will judge from your replies whether to begin planning.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Larry Battoe
GATORHEAD Regatta Committee

PS If your team has the GATORHEAD trophy, please let me know.

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#789 From: "Ezra Simmons" <ezrasimmons@...>
Date: Sat Jun 14, 2003 6:18 pm
Subject: RE: Reviving the GATORHEAD Regatta for Nov. 8th, 2003 ezrasimmons@...
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THE GATORCHASER REGATTA IS NOT CANCELLED.  I SUGGEST YOU CHECK YOUR
INFORMATION BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING.
WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN THIS YEAR!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Battoe [mailto:Battoe@...]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:16 PM
To: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FSRA] Reviving the GATORHEAD Regatta for Nov. 8th, 2003

Gainesville Area Rowing is considering reviving the GATORHEAD Regatta
this Fall.  It will be held on the St. Johns River in Palatka on Nov.
8th if there is enough interest.  (This Gatorchaser Regatta will not be
held this year). The GATORHEAD will be brought to you by the same folks
who put on the CREW CLASSIC and be at the same venue.  It will be a
5,000 meter Head Race starting up-stream and finishing at the same
finish line as the Crewclassic.

Coaches/Boosters - If you are interested, please send me an e-mail at
battoe@... concerning your level of interest or intention to
attend.  We will judge from your replies whether to begin planning.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Larry Battoe
GATORHEAD Regatta Committee

PS If your team has the GATORHEAD trophy, please let me know.

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#790 From: RowFL@...
Date: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:25 am
Subject: 2003 Sunshine State Games - Rowing Results rowfl
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Hi Everyone,

Attached is a Microsoft Word version of the results from this past weekend's regatta. Many thanks to the people at www.flasports.com for posting them so quickly on their site. I cut and pasted them, then tweaked them just a bit so they would be a bit easier to read. Please let me know if there are any glaring errors made in the posting process.

Many thanks again to our leader, Tom Feaster, Regatta Director and to all of the officials, volunteers, Florida Sports people, Hillsborough County Parks & Recreation Department employees, the Southwest Florida Water Management personell and all the competitors who all, working together, made it a memorable, very enjoyable day!

By the way, if anyone is available to help take the docks apart and load them this coming Sunday morning at the Tampa Bypass Canal, please drop me a note. I have a few volunteers, but could use a few more.

Good luck with your rowing for the rest of the year!!!

Martyn Dennis
1950 Thunderbird Trail
Maitland, FL 32751

Cell (407) 694-5214
Home (407) 645-1404

See the rowing links at www.MartynDennis.com

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#791 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:10 pm
Subject: FW: Halifax Summer Regatta Brice.Crossley-1@...
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FYI: please send responses directly to Christine at Powersq@....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Powersq@... [SMTP:Powersq@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:19 PM
> To: Brice.Crossley-1@...
> Cc: Tanya.Bowley@...; RAULROW@...;
> stevepackard@...
> Subject: Halifax Summer Regatta
>
> Brice,
> Here is the schedule of events for our regatta on July 26th.  Deadline for
> entry is July 19th.  Attached is the regatta packet with entry
> information.  Could you please send this to the Florida Masters and the
> FSRA groups?
> Thank you,
> Christine Power
>
>
> Halifax Summer Regatta    July 26, 2003
>
> Event # Time Event
> 1 9:00 M Vet/ Rec/Nov 1X
>
> 2 9:15 W master/Open 8+
>
> 3 9:30 M Master 1X
> M Master Lt 1X
> 4 9:45 M open/Jr 1X
>
> 5 10:00 Mx Master 4+
>
> 6 10:15 W Jr 1X
>
> 7 10:30 W master/open 1X
> 10:37 W Master Lt 1X
> 8 10:45 M Master 2X
>
> 9 11:00 W Jr 4+
>
> 10 11:15 W Vet/Rec 1X
>
> 11 11:30 M Master 8+
>
> 12 11:45 Open Mx 2X
>
> 13 12:00 W Master 4+
>
> 12:15 Lunch
>
> 14 12:30 W Master 2X
>
> 15 12:45 W Jr 2X
>
> 16 13:00 M Master 4+
>
> 17 13:15 M Open/Jr 2X
>
> 18 13:30 Mx Master 2X
>
> 19  13:45     M Jr. 4+
>
>  <<ENTRYA~1.DOC>>

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#792 From: "Bram Fowler" <graphicbram@...>
Date: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:36 pm
Subject: FW: Florida Rowing Clubs. fsrapresident
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Coaches
see if you can help out this lady.
Thanks
Bram

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From: Anne Varner [mailto:a_va7@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:23 AM
To: graphicbram@...
Subject: Florida Rowing Clubs.

Dear Mr Fowler,
My name is Anne Varner. I am a student at Grand Valley State University in
Grand Rapids Michigan. I have been rowing here for two years. This fall I
will be doing an internship in Key Largo Florida and am interested in
finding a club to row with. Do you know of any clubs in the area or know of
anyone else I could contact that would know. Thank you for your time.
Anne Varner

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#793 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:51 pm
Subject: FW: Halifax Regatta Info Brice.Crossley-1@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Powersq@... [SMTP:Powersq@...]
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:03 PM
> To: Brice.Crossley-1@...
> Subject: Halifax Regatta
>
> Hey Brice,
> I have some clarifications to be sent to Florida Masters and FSRA about
> the Halifax July 26th regatta.  Could you please send them out?
>
> 1)  The course is your standard marked course, start, 100meter line, 250m,
> 500m, 750m and 1000m.  Sorry about the confusion, it is not a fully buoyed
> course.
>
> 2)  The veteran men's and women's events will be run at the time stated in
> the schedule.  Novice and Rec. will be separated into their own heat,
> approx. 7 min. after the veteran's events.  Veteran is considered anyone
> 50+.  Master is from 27-49.
>
> 3)  Rowing age for this regatta will be your age as of December 31, 2003.
>
> Any questions, please contact Christine Power @ powersq@....
>

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#794 From: Rich Budell <rjbudell@...>
Date: Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:05 pm
Subject: Highschool Varsity Womens Coaching Position budell
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Tallahassee Area Crew is looking for a Varsity Womens rowing coach to
start immedately. If interested contact:

Richard Budell
TAC Vice Presedent
rjbudell@...

Compensation commensurate with qualifications and experience.

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#795 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:55 pm
Subject: FW: Halifax Summer Regatta Brice.Crossley-1@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Powersq@... [SMTP:Powersq@...]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 3:53 PM
> To: Brice.Crossley-1@...
> Subject: Halifax Summer Regatta
>
> Hey Brice,
> Could you possibly send something out to Florida Masters and FSRA about
> the deadline for entries being tomorrow (July 19th) for the Halifax
> Regatta?
>
> All that I really need is an email with name, age, and event number(s), so
> that I can make up the schedule.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Christine Power

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#796 From: "raulrow" <raulrow@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:59 pm
Subject: DIRIGO 8+ FOR SALE raulrow
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1993 Dirigo 8+ for sale good condition excellent boat for a start up
program or for Masters. $3,500.00 or best offer, please contact Raul
Arellano at the Miami Rowing Club (305) 793-5411

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#797 From: Rehwoldt Larry D Contr CUBE/LGT <Larry.Rehwoldt@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:30 pm
Subject: Assistant Coach Needed Larry.Rehwoldt@...
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Space Coast Crew team,  Satellite Beach, Fl,  is looking for an assistant
coach for the 2003-2004 rowing season.  Space Coast Crew is a club team made
up of approximately 65 rowers from Brevard County high schools.  Interested
applicants can contact the following members of the Space Coast Crew Board
of Directors:

Larry Rehwoldt:  Home:  321-779-0533
                          Work:  321-494-2963

Myra LaRoche:   Home:  321-773-5350

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#798 From: Rehwoldt Larry D Contr CUBE/LGT <Larry.Rehwoldt@...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 11:42 am
Subject: For Sale: Crew Boat Trailer Larry.Rehwoldt@...
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Boat Trailer For Sale:

Space Coast Crew has a boat trailer for sale.  Trailer will carry 3 eights
and 3 fours.  The trailer bed and tires are new.  This would be an excellent
trailer for a small or new rowing program.  $2500 or best offer.  If
interested contact Larry Rehwoldt, 321-779-0533 or 321-494-2963.


Larry D. Rehwoldt
SCC Board of Directors

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#799 From: "Bram Fowler" <graphicbram@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:09 pm
Subject: Meeting fsrapresident
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Coaches the FSRA meeting will be held on Sat Sep 6th

I will follow up with the agenda.

Please feel free to express yourselves via e-mail to everybody now rather than at the meeting.

If there is anybody who would like to run for any positions on the board please submit your name and what position you will be running for.

Thanks

Bram

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#800 From: "Bram Fowler" <graphicbram@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:34 pm
Subject: Schedule fsrapresident
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Coaches

If your club is hosting a race this coming season, please let me know the date ASAP so that I can make up a tentative schedule.

AS OUR SPORT BECOMES MORE POPULAR, MORE RACES WILL BECOME AVAILABLE ON THE SAME WEEKEND, BE CAREFUL NOT TO PUT ALL OF YOUR FUNDRAISING EGGS IN ONE BASKET...WE SHOULD BE LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE SPORT FOR FUNDRAISING.

So far I have:

MARCH 13 HOOD CUP TURKEY LAKE

MARCH 20 UF RUN RACE TURKEY LAKE

APRIL 3 MIAMI INTERNATIONAL

Regards

Bram.

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#801 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 7:25 pm
Subject: Proposed Order of Events for Scholastic State Championship Brice.Crossley-1@...
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In order to stream line this year's FSRA Championship registration process, I would like the association to establish an initial order of events before the start of the season. Here is my proposal for the FSRA Scholastic Champs:

7:45 AM Coaches and coxswains meetings.
8:00 AM All volunteers to meet at the registration
9:00 AM Racing Commences

Girls 2X FINAL
Girls 1X FINAL
Boys 2X FINAL
Boys 1X FINAL
Heat schedule (as necessary) followed by Final schedule in same order:
Girls F4
Girls F8
Boys F4
Boys F8
Girls 3rd4
Girls 3rd8
Boys 3rd4
Boys 3rd8
Girls L4
Girls L8
Boys L4
Boys L8
Girls JV4
Girls JV8
Boys JV4
Boys JV8
Boys V4
Girls V4
Girls V8
Boys V8

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#802 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 7:34 pm
Subject: Proposed Order of Events for Youth State Championship Brice.Crossley-1@...
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In order to stream line this year's FSRA Championship registration process, I would like the association to establish an initial order of events before the start of the season. Here is my proposal for the FSRA Youth Champs:

7:45 AM Coaches and coxswains meetings.
8:00 AM All volunteers to meet at the registration
9:00 AM Racing Commences

B1X HEATS

G1X HEATS

GF/N4 flights

GV4 HEATS

BV4 HEATS

BJV4 flights

B2X FINAL

G4X FINAL

B3RD8 flights

B3RD4 flights

GV8 HEATS

G3RD4 flights

BV8 HEATS

BF/N4 flights

GF/N8 flights

GJV4 flights

G2X FINAL

B4X FINAL

BF/N8 flights

B1X FINAL

G1X FINAL

GL8 FINAL

BL8 FINAL

G3RD8 flights

GV4 FINAL

BV4 FINAL

GL4 flights

BL4 flights

GJV8 flights

BJV8 flights

GV8 FINAL

BV8 FINAL

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#803 From: JFRANCIS2807@...
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting JFRANCIS2807@...
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I have agreed to be considered for Treasurer if Dan still wants to step down. Also, I believe that a new point system for States should be discussed.

Jamie Francis
Edgewater

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#804 From: JFRANCIS2807@...
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting JFRANCIS2807@...
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Perhaps I should actually include my intended proposal for the point system for States.

Jamie Francis
Edgewater

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#805 From: RowFL@...
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Schedule rowfl
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Dear Coaches,

As you make your plans for venues regarding regattas that may have been held at the Tampa Bypass Canal, it appears that the bridge construction will not begin until after June 2004. This means that the canal is an option for one more year.

Also, we have formed a committee in Orlando to prepare the course at Turkey Lake Park for Scholastic Nationals in May 2004. We are working on a time line to have a fully buoyed course in place for the spring season, if all the variables stay on track. Anyone with experience with these kind of courses, please contact me to add your input, if you like.

If you do intend to use either of the above courses, keep in mind that it would be best to work together to coordinate dates and logistics, especially for the people that graciously let us use them.

I hope everyone has had a great summer!

Martyn Dennis

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#806 From: hourerg@...
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:18 am
Subject: Re: Meeting hourerg
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While were at it, how about a points trophy for the "new" Youth States.
Jose Arellano, Jr.

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#807 From: "Crossley, Brice A" <Brice.Crossley-1@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 2:38 pm
Subject: Rules, team contacts, Blade Designs, etc. Brice.Crossley-1@...
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As always, the current versions of championship rules, by-laws, etc. are online. Please make a copy to bring along for discussion purposes at the meeting, especially if you plan to suggest changes. Of course, if you do plan to suggest a change, please make the association aware of this as soon as possible.

Also, if your team's blade design has changed or we don't have it on record, please bring a color picture or drawing of it to the meeting. Rowing and Regatta Officials has stated this information is very helpful. As you can see online, we are missing the following teams: American Barge Club, Belen Jesuit Prep, Canterbury School, Miami Beach Juniors, Tampa Catholic HS, Treasure Coast Junior Rowing Association, and Westminster Academy.

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#808 From: "Charles Huthmaker" <chuthmak@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 2:53 pm
Subject: oars wanted chuthmak@...
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Greetings all,

Stetson Crew is looking to buy used sculling oars.  Preferably ultralight
hatchets.  Please call or email if you are aware of any available at your
club or boathouse.

Charles Huthmaker
Stetson University
Head Women's Coach
421 N. Woodland Blvd. #8359
DeLand, FL 32723
Cell: 386-747-1194
Office: 386-822-8102
Fax: 386-822-8148
http://www.stetson.edu/offices/athletics/crew/index.htm
http://www.stetson.edu/offices/athletics/index.htm

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#809 From: "Matt Kaminski" <mkaminski@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting mkaminski@...
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I second the idea of changing the points schedule, and would also like to propose adding petite finals for varsity events (8 and 4) and have points 7-12. This would give us a definate placement (ranking) below 6th, give potential 2nd race for V crews, and earn points for the highest class events.

Matt Kaminski

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#810 From: JFRANCIS2807@...
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:44 pm
Subject: Points JFRANCIS2807@...
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Per a few requests I've attached a revised version of the point proposal. I forgot to include the sculling events but intentionally left out Lightweights in hopes that the fastest boats would be entered in the premier events. I realize that eliminating the lightweight category did not pass last year, so in that case light 8s & 4s would be equivalent to 2nd 8s & 4s. My reasoning behind a revised system is to try to give smaller programs who are competitive in the premier events the opportunity to make a showing at States.

Jamie Francis
Edgewater

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#811 From: "Steve Burgess" <sburgess50@...>
Date: Sat Aug 9, 2003 4:16 am
Subject: Re: Points sburgess50@...
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I realize my viewpoint may appear biased since I'm a parent from a large crew (Lake Brantley) that won all points last year, but here it is anyway.

The current points system allows a large club to gain an advantage towards the all points trophy and therefore promotes recruiting of more young people into crew sports. Hopefully, this is viewed by all parties as good for the individuals recruited into the healthy lifestyle imposed by this rigorous sport and good for the promotion of the sport of crew throughout the state. This positive aspect of promoting recruiting should not be taken lightly. At some time in the future, if enough young people are in crew, we may someday gain the recognition that will allow crew to become a state recognized and sponsored sport.

The smaller clubs that win the premier events of Varsity 8, Varsity 4, etc. have the medals and bragging rights of winning those events. This is their reward and acknowledgement of their accomplishment in and of itself. Possibly, some of these smaller clubs will recruit harder for next season in order to enter more events and thereby have a better chance of winning the all points trophy. How is this system bad for crew as a whole? Yes, the current system allows a large club an advantage but only if the club can compete well in many events. If a large club does poorly in many events it most likely will not have sufficient points to win overall.

Yes, the system does promote recruiting for crew and brings more young people to crew. I see this as a positive and not a negative. I don't believe we should artificially weight the points system in such a way that it makes it possible for a four boat crew to win states. In that case, why recruit when a distinct advantage may be had by cutting rowers to the best four boats and spending all coaching and equipment resources on those four boats? I think this weighted system will send the wrong message and will not be good for crew as a sport.

At any rate, our points system should follow the national points system. I don't think we can go wrong if we follow the nationally recognized system and after all, Nationals will be held here in 2004. Anything else should be viewed as artificial weighting to give one "disadvantaged" group an advantage over another. Neither our society nor our young people need to experience that anymore than has already been imposed on them.

Thanks for listening.

Steve Burgess

Lake Brantley Crew

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Subject: [FSRA] Points

Per a few requests I've attached a revised version of the point proposal. I forgot to include the sculling events but intentionally left out Lightweights in hopes that the fastest boats would be entered in the premier events. I realize that eliminating the lightweight category did not pass last year, so in that case light 8s & 4s would be equivalent to 2nd 8s & 4s. My reasoning behind a revised system is to try to give smaller programs who are competitive in the premier events the opportunity to make a showing at States.

Jamie Francis
Edgewater

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#812 From: "Bertossa, Daniel" <bertosd@...>
Date: Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:23 am
Subject: Gator Chaser 03 Letter bertosd@...
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Coaches:

Mitty Events, the host of the Gator Chaser Head Race the past two years, has created a partnership with Winter Park High School Crew to handle the rowing aspects of this event. Mitty Events will continue to handle the operational duties. Winter Park High School Crew and Mitty Events believe that this partnership will enhance what is already a great event.

Currently there are some great improvements being made to the site as part of the $12 million Sanford Riverwalk Project. Upon completion, our event venue will be unmatched in all of Florida. To check on the progress of this project visit www.ci.sanford.fl.us. However, due to these improvements, the venue will be unusable for this year’s event and therefore will be cancelled for 2003. The event will return in 2004 on November 13 as the premier head race in Florida.

We apologize for any problems this may have caused in your 2003 race schedule, however, the future benefits will far outweigh this years inconvenience. If you have additional questions, please contact Ezra Simmons at ezrasimmons@... or Dan Bertossa at bertosd@....

Remember, if you’re not chasing the gator, then you’re just gator bait!

Sincerely,

Ezra Simmons Dan Bertossa

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Mitty Events WPHS Men’s Crew

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#813 From: "Sucich, Craig S." <cssucich@...>
Date: Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:52 pm
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The current point system rewards the largest team, not necessarily the fastest. The revised points system is being designed so that the fastest and most competitive team in Florida will win the all points trophy, regardless of how many athletes are on the team. This will force all the teams to focus on the premier (high point) events. Spreading yourself out in all the events to try and scoop up as many points as possible will be replaced by focusing the talent at the top. This will not penalize the large teams, and will only help those small teams that have their act together.

As a former head coach of Lake Brantley and Edgewater (two of the larger programs in the state), I highly recommend revising the current system.

Craig Sucich

Vice President - FSRA

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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:17 AM
To: JFRANCIS2807@...; FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FSRA] Points

I realize my viewpoint may appear biased since I'm a parent from a large crew (Lake Brantley) that won all points last year, but here it is anyway.

The current points system allows a large club to gain an advantage towards the all points trophy and therefore promotes recruiting of more young people into crew sports. Hopefully, this is viewed by all parties as good for the individuals recruited into the healthy lifestyle imposed by this rigorous sport and good for the promotion of the sport of crew throughout the state. This positive aspect of promoting recruiting should not be taken lightly. At some time in the future, if enough young people are in crew, we may someday gain the recognition that will allow crew to become a state recognized and sponsored sport.

The smaller clubs that win the premier events of Varsity 8, Varsity 4, etc. have the medals and bragging rights of winning those events. This is their reward and acknowledgement of their accomplishment in and of itself. Possibly, some of these smaller clubs will recruit harder for next season in order to enter more events and thereby have a better chance of winning the all points trophy. How is this system bad for crew as a whole? Yes, the current system allows a large club an advantage but only if the club can compete well in many events. If a large club does poorly in many events it most likely will not have sufficient points to win overall.

Yes, the system does promote recruiting for crew and brings more young people to crew. I see this as a positive and not a negative. I don't believe we should artificially weight the points system in such a way that it makes it possible for a four boat crew to win states. In that case, why recruit when a distinct advantage may be had by cutting rowers to the best four boats and spending all coaching and equipment resources on those four boats? I think this weighted system will send the wrong message and will not be good for crew as a sport.

At any rate, our points system should follow the national points system. I don't think we can go wrong if we follow the nationally recognized system and after all, Nationals will be held here in 2004. Anything else should be viewed as artificial weighting to give one "disadvantaged" group an advantage over another. Neither our society nor our young people need to experience that anymore than has already been imposed on them.

Thanks for listening.

Steve Burgess

Lake Brantley Crew

----- Original Message -----

From: JFRANCIS2807@...

To: FSRA@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:44 PM

Subject: [FSRA] Points

Per a few requests I've attached a revised version of the point proposal. I forgot to include the sculling events but intentionally left out Lightweights in hopes that the fastest boats would be entered in the premier events. I realize that eliminating the lightweight category did not pass last year, so in that case light 8s & 4s would be equivalent to 2nd 8s & 4s. My reasoning behind a revised system is to try to give smaller programs who are competitive in the premier events the opportunity to make a showing at States.

Jamie Francis
Edgewater

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