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TO: FSRA Coaches
RE: FSRA Regatta Committee Race Packet

At this summer's FSRA Annual Meeting, the FSRA membership instituted a
Regatta Committee to decide certain details of the 2007 FSRA State
Championship.

The committee consisted of nine members including the 2006-2007 FSRA
Executive Committee consisting Tom Lineberry (VP), Pat Casey (Treasurer),
Tess Durant (Recording Secretary), Brice Crossley (Corresponding Secretary),
and myself (President). Additionally, the committee included Matt Abel
(Plant), Kirsten Anderson (OARs), Dan Kempinger (University) and Mike
Vertullo (Winter Park).

The Regatta Committee worked within the policies embraced at this year's
meeting, namely to move to a two-day regatta with finals on Sunday morning.

The attached document is the regatta packet for the 2007 State Championship.

Changes/topics include:

1. Progression - Adoption of progression system employing a combination of
heats, reps, semifinals and finals depending on the number of entries in
each event.
2. Seeding - In conjunction with a revised progression system, the use of
seeding system based on performance in spring regattas.
3. Events - both men's and women's entries for 1x, 2x, 4x, 1V4+, 2V4+, LV4+,
1V8+, 2V8+, 3V8+, F8+
4. Event schedule - Adoption of a standardized event sequence that will be
followed for all heats, reps, semis, and finals. All finals and petite
finals will be held on Sunday.
5. Doubling - Maintaining doubling rules at one sweep event and one sculling
event.

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I agree with the Freshman 4+, that definately should be there.

-Ted Riedeburg


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Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 8:35 PM
To: dsnewman99@...
Cc: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet





There is some confusion as to the status of the Freshmen Four.  The material refers to freshmen events (plural) and the scoring for scholastics includes points for Freshmen Fours but the Overall Points appears to have overlooked this event.  Your cover letter omits the Freshmen Four.  If it is intended to omit this event, then I believe that is a grave oversight since this is a well subscribed event each year and it would do grave disservice to the small crews such as Osprey Oars and some others who can not field an 8+, having neither the personnel, equipment nor inclination to do so.  Osprey Oars does, however, have a very active freshmen four and we have been competitive in that event for two years.  We hope to be competitive again this year.  This constitutes our entire development program.  Why a freshmen 8+ but no four?  For that matter, why a 3rd eight and no lightweight 8+?  But that is not the issue here, only the question of the freshmen four.  With a two day regatta now, it hardly seems necessary to eliminate what I feel is a core event in many clubs development.  Let there be no confusion here, we are not talking about novices, just freshmen.






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        From: "Dan Newman" <dsnewman99@...>
        To: fsra@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet
        Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:28:37 -0500
       
       

        TO: FSRA Coaches
        RE: FSRA Regatta Committee Race Packet
       
        At this summer's FSRA Annual Meeting, the FSRA membership instituted a
        Regatta Committee to decide certain details of the 2007 FSRA State
        Championship.
       
        The committee consisted of nine members including the 2006-2007 FSRA
        Executive Committee consisting Tom Lineberry (VP), Pat Casey (Treasurer),
        Tess Durant (Recording Secretary), Brice Crossley (Corresponding Secretary),
        and myself (President). Additionally, the committee included Matt Abel
        (Plant), Kirsten Anderson (OARs), Dan Kempinger (University) and Mike
        Vertullo (Winter Park).
       
        The Regatta Committee worked within the policies embraced at this year's
        meeting, namely to move to a two-day regatta with finals on Sunday morning.
       
        The attached document is the regatta packet for the 2007 State Championship.
       
        Changes/topics include:
       
        1. Progression - Adoption of progression system employing a combination of
        heats, reps, semifinals and finals depending on the number of entries in
        each event.
        2. Seeding - In conjunction with a revised progression system, the use of
        seeding system based on performance in spring regattas.
        3. Events - both men's and women's entries for 1x, 2x, 4x, 1V4+, 2V4+, LV4+,
        1V8+, 2V8+, 3V8+, F8+
        4. Event schedule - Adoption of a standardized event sequence that will be
        followed for all heats, reps, semis, and finals. All finals and petite
        finals will be held on Sunday.
        5. Doubling - Maintaining doubling rules at one sweep event and one sculling
        event.
       
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From: Riedeburg, Ted

To: Peter de Manio ; dsnewman99@...

Cc: FSRA@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:32 AM

Subject: RE: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet

I agree with the Freshman 4+, that definately should be there.

-Ted Riedeburg


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To: dsnewman99@hotmail.com
Cc: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet





There is some confusion as to the status of the Freshmen Four.  The material refers to freshmen events (plural) and the scoring for scholastics includes points for Freshmen Fours but the Overall Points appears to have overlooked this event.  Your cover letter omits the Freshmen Four.  If it is intended to omit this event, then I believe that is a grave oversight since this is a well subscribed event each year and it would do grave disservice to the small crews such as Osprey Oars and some others who can not field an 8+, having neither the personnel, equipment nor inclination to do so.  Osprey Oars does, however, have a very active freshmen four and we have been competitive in that event for two years.  We hope to be competitive again this year.  This constitutes our entire development program.  Why a freshmen 8+ but no four?  For that matter, why a 3rd eight and no lightweight 8+?  But that is not the issue here, only the question of the f





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www.peterdemanio.com <http://www.peterdemanio.com/>  (mediation)

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        From: "Dan Newman" <dsnewman99@hotmail.com>
        To: fsra@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet
        Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:28:37 -0500
       
       

        TO: FSRA Coaches
        RE: FSRA Regatta Committee Race Packet
       
        At this summer's FSRA Annual Meeting, the FSRA membership instituted a
        Regatta Committee to decide certain details of the 2007 FSRA State
        Championship.
       
        The committee consisted of nine members including the 2006-2007 FSRA
        Executive Committee consisting Tom Lineberry (VP), Pat Casey (Treasurer),
        Tess Durant (Recording Secretary), Brice Crossley (Corresponding Secretary),
        and myself (President). Additionally, the committee included Matt Abel
        (Plant), Kirsten Anderson (OARs), Dan Kempinger (University) and Mike
        Vertullo (Winter Park).
       
        The Regatta Committee worked within the policies embraced at this year's
        meeting, namely to move to a two-day regatta with finals on Sunday morning.
       
        The attached document is the regatta packet for the 2007 State Championship.
       
        Changes/topics include:
       
        1. Progression - Adoption of progression system employing a combination of
        heats, reps, semifinals and finals depending on the number of entries in
        each event.
        2. Seeding - In conjunction with a revised progression system, the use of
        seeding system based on performance in spring regattas.
        3. Events - both men's and women's entries for 1x, 2x, 4x, 1V4+, 2V4+, LV4+,
        1V8+, 2V8+, 3V8+, F8+
        4. Event schedule - Adoption of a standardized event sequence that will be
        followed for all heats, reps, semis, and finals. All finals and petite
        finals will be held on Sunday.
        5. Doubling - Maintaining doubling rules at one sweep event and one sculling
        event.
       
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-----Original Message-----
From: FSRA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FSRA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Berster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:45 PM
To: Dan Newman
Cc: fsra@yahoogroups.com; Peter deManio
Subject: Re: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet

After looking over the regatta packet, I would like to make some suggestions about the order of events. In the interest of making a schedule that can be used in years to come with less "overhauling", could all the races follow the same pattern; ie all sculls done in the morning,  all sweeps progress from Freshman through Varsity, and all races alternate boy/girl or vice versa?

Moving all the sculling to the morning will also help promote sculling as well as giving teams more time between the sculling and sweep events.  This will allow teams to enter more of both events.  Also the Lt4+ should follow the JV events since Lt4+ is considered a championship event at nationals.

Thanks,

-Andy Berster

On 11/28/06, Dan Newman < dsnewman99@hotmail.com> wrote:

TO: FSRA Coaches
RE: FSRA Regatta Committee Race Packet

At this summer's FSRA Annual Meeting, the FSRA membership instituted a
Regatta Committee to decide certain details of the 2007 FSRA State
Championship.

The committee consisted of nine members including the 2006-2007 FSRA
Executive Committee consisting Tom Lineberry (VP), Pat Casey (Treasurer),
Tess Durant (Recording Secretary), Brice Crossley (Corresponding Secretary),
and myself (President). Additionally, the committee included Matt Abel
(Plant), Kirsten Anderson (OARs), Dan Kempinger (University) and Mike
Vertullo (Winter Park).

The Regatta Committee worked within the policies embraced at this year's
meeting, namely to move to a two-day regatta with finals on Sunday morning.

The attached document is the regatta packet for the 2007 State Championship.

Changes/topics include:

1. Progression - Adoption of progression system employing a combination of
heats, reps, semifinals and finals depending on the number of entries in
each event.
2. Seeding - In conjunction with a revised progression system, the use of
seeding system based on performance in spring regattas.
3. Events - both men's and women's entries for 1x, 2x, 4x, 1V4+, 2V4+, LV4+,
1V8+, 2V8+, 3V8+, F8+
4. Event schedule - Adoption of a standardized event sequence that will be
followed for all heats, reps, semis, and finals. All finals and petite
finals will be held on Sunday.
5. Doubling - Maintaining doubling rules at one sweep event and one sculling
event.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter de Manio [mailto:pdemanio@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:45 PM
To: patrickcasey@...; Brice.Crossley-1@...
Cc: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FSRA] 2006-2007 FSRA Regatta Packet

Patrick:  You write - "The overwhelming feeling of the committee is that this regatta needs to continue to evolve into a true championship (with the same priority placed on events as in other National regattas)." I am not sure what you meant by "National" but FSRA is certainly not a national event, so I looked up 12 comparable district and national type events that were reported on row2k for 2006 and here is what I found. All of these 12 regattas were championship events.  New Jersey Scholastic, Catholic League Philadelphia, New York State, Philadelphia City, Baltimore High School, New England/Mid Atlantic District, New York State Scholastic, Midwest Scholastic, Stotesbury, Midwest Juniors, US Southwest Regional and Massachusetts Public High School.  Ten of these regattas included either Freshmen or Novice Fours as an event.  Some even had Second Novice Fours.  Four of these regattas had no Third Eights events but there were eight regattas that included lightweight eights.  There is much more interesting and enlightening information available, but I believe that this makes the point.  We do not need to try to copy other regattas based on false assumptions and bad information.  Nor do we need to try to fit ourselves into the scheme of some other organization that does not match our profile.  We need to do what is good for Florida and fits our profile. This survey was the result of a hasty review so there might be some errors, but you can check it for yourself. 

You also write: "it was decided that neither the Freshman 4 or 3rd 4 were truly Championship Level events." How then do 3rd eights rise to the level of championship events, or junior varsity, or second eights, or anything else that is not a varsity championship event?  It appears that you have a strong agenda for eights and you wish to make a case that will support your conclusion - period.

Brice:  You write in two places: (1) grouped together by gender to prevent cheating; and (2) we grouped all the Frosh and 3rd eights together, which in turn again helps prevent cheating.  It is certainly discouraging to read that you hold the Florida coaches in such low regard.  I am deeply offended by your accusations and in spite of some disagreements in the past, I do not believe our coaches would violate the rules as you have suggested.  Based on this paranoia you have thus created a race schedule that does great harm to the boys' crews who wish to double from sculling events into light fours and heavy fours as is permitted by the rules but you have favored the girls who now have plenty of time to scull, rest and then sweep.  Since when have we been so solicitous of the equipment needs of the sculling programs that we can not have alternating gender races in the sculling events?  It appears that this has not been well thought out and it ought to be run by all the coaches now. not after the regatta.  I thought the committee was only going to come up with a plan for the coaches to consider.

May I remind you that FSRA is supposed to be looking out for all the interests of all the programs.  It would speak more highly for our organization if its decisions had the appearance of fairness, and if the arguments in support of the decisions had the ring of fairness and careful thought for the interests of all.

Peter de Manio

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TO: FSRA Coaches
RE: 2007 FSRA State Championship

I appreciate the discussion amongst the FSRA member list regarding the many
changes for this year's event. Please see the revised Regatta Packet, which
should eliminate some of the confusion from my previous email.

The committee underwent an extraordinarily deliberate process with ample
discussion about even the minutest portions of our state regatta. We tried
to balance the need for creating the most competitive opportunities for our
rowers while also running an efficient and straight-forward regatta.

For the first time ever, we are moving to a two-day regatta. The FSRA
General Membership supported a progression from heats on Saturday to finals
on Sunday. Moreover, we've embraced a more fair system with reps and
semifinals (depending on the number of entries) to ensure that the best
teams lineup in the Sunday finals. The addition of reps and semifinals
ensures that many, many more boats will race two or three times throughout
the regatta.

The order of events is much improved over previous years and was designed,
primarily, to provide a reasonable progression based on the projected number
of entries. Our new order of events should work well. If there are issues
with it, we will have every opportunity to change it in the future.

Regarding the removal events from our championship, I can explain a bit
about the committee's thinking.

Our regatta has grown every year for decades and, with the move to a single
event with scholastic and youth programs, we have grown beyond the ability
to hold a one-day regatta. While the move to a two-day regatta creates more
time for racing, the addition of reps and semis more than fills the extra
space. We set a goal of concluding the regatta by early afternoon,
preferably around noon, on Sunday. For teams from Miami, Ft. Lauderdale,
Jacksonville, and Tallahassee who face 4-6 hour return trips, it's critical
that we get students home at a reasonable time on a school night.

Because of the limitations of a two-day regatta that ends by midday on
Sunday, we were forced to eliminate events. Sculling entries have been
growing and we did not want to limit those events.  Accepting that certain
events were untouchable (V4+, V8+, L4+, etc.) we looked at lower tier
events. The lightweight 8+ has been effectively eliminated for years because
so few teams ever want to enter it. The move to eliminate the Frosh 4+ and
3rd 4+, however, was much more difficult.

Large teams have very few options other than entering a full slate of
eights. Eliminating the 3rd 8+ (which had 9 entries last year) would
actually have the impact of expanding the regatta schedule and lengthening
the amount of racing on Sunday. We could not eliminate the event without
having many students arriving home after 9pm on a Sunday night.

Eliminating the Frosh 4+ and 3rd 4+ keeps the day short by condensing those
rowers into sculling and eights events.  Those events will be more
populated, and therefore more competitive. The day will be shorter and the
schedule more efficient.

We appreciate the helpful insight into the Regatta Committee’s work. I’m
excited about how much progress has been made in creating an excellent event
for this year, but we have much more work in front of us.

If you have thoughts or ideas, do not hesitate to find me or any other
Regatta Committee member throughout the year. Additionally, do not hesitate
to call me anytime with questions about the committee’s process for this
year or next.

All the best,

Dan Newman
President
FSRA

Varsity Coach
Leon Crew, Tallahassee
850.321.0738

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Greetings-
I hope this email is read without predetermined feelings attached. I am not
interested in offending anyone as a coach or person.  These
are only my opinions.
As a member of this committee, I will tell you that some of the decisions we
made were not easy.  As a coach of a smaller program, I was
responsible for giving insight to the comittee on what the smaller teams were
looking for.
I will tell you that I voted to eliminate the Frosh 4+.  It may be well
attended, and that's debatable when you look at the numbers.  We
have 40+ organizations in the State. If we break that down to boys/girls, we are
pushing 75+ organizations that could potentially
enter a said event.  We have too many events.
What we have to look at is not what works best for "me", but rather what we want
the future of Florida rowing to look like.

FSRA was established to organize a State Championship for the Scholastic teams.
That is
their only jurisdiction. However, the organization voted to allow clubs into
that Championship race a few years ago, and since then
clubs have the same amount of power in the Scholastic organization.  The annual
fall meeting has become an intimidation festival, with
newer, smaller teams taking a back seat verbally and organizationally to the
more established larger teams (both club and scholastic)
This year was an amazing site to behold with motions and seconds being made
without discussions as if we could fix the problems later.
We have 1 time/ year that we meet to discuss our State Championship, and we
weren't afforded that time. Not to mention that our
bylaws state that all changes to the constitiution require advanced notice to
vote on, which we rarely get to do.  We cannot hold
a vote via internet, so really the point is moot. Unless we want to all meet at
a regatta this spring and hold a vote.
Thankfully Dan Newman was able to get this comittee established to look at some
of the challenges we have to face.

The State Championship event should not be a place where you can go and find a
race to become a State Champion. If it were up
to me, we would have 5 events/side  @ the State Championship: Varsity 8+,
Varsity 4+, Varsity 4X, Varsity 2x, and Varsity 1X. If you have
9 rowers, you can enter every race. If it's important for you to win the all
points trophy-teach your kids how to scull. If you only want to win
the V8+ race the 8+. If you want to see if your program has improved over the
past 10 years, continue to enter the 8+ and see where you finish
we have no indicator as to who really has improved their programs, because we
find events to race that sometimes have 10 entries and sometimes
have 5.
Clearly that isn't what many coaches want- it would require teams to teach
sculling, and it would limit the number of kids that would
get to race @ States.  I think it would level the playing field somewhat, and at
the same time give us a true State Champion. The V8+ results would
not have changed over the past 10 years, the V4+ definitely would have.
What we have now is a fair race that follows a format of racing from around the
country.  I will tell you that not everyone is going to be happy with
any decision that is made, but we need to remember this when it comes to our
fall meeting next year.  I vote now that we eliminate guest speakers,
and allow time for business to be discussed.

Thanks,
Dan



Dan Kempinger


________________________________
> To: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
> From: riedeburgt@...
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:39:46 -0500
> Subject: [FSRA]
>
> Members of the FSRA,
> I did some research regarding participation in the Freshman 4+ vs. the 3rd 8
over the last 8 years and it is very interesting.
> First of all, I was extremely disappointed when the decision was made to
eliminate the F4 from the state championship, and event that Bolles has had some
success in – 3 state championships over that time.  And coming from a 2A school,
I feel that is a great accomplishment.  What I like about the Frosh events is
that it makes for an exciting race and evens the playing field.  They are boats
comprised of kids of the same age and ability – anyone’s game if you will.  By
eliminating the 4 event, you take away that excitement from the smaller programs
and only allow the larger programs that can put together a competitive boat –
which don’t necessarily need the success at a young age - to spread the
excitement of rowing in their school.  And, since the elimination of the novice
events in the 2003 race, the F4’s have remained consistent while the 3rd 8’s
have only increased by one or two entries (in 2005 and 2004, Winter Park
represented two boys entries and in 2005 Winter Park had two girls boats in that
race).
> So, I have compiled a small spread sheet (see attached) showing the entries
over the last 8 years, and you will see consistent entries (and more for that
matter) in the Freshman 4+ event and ups and downs in the 3rd 8, even after the
novice entries were eliminated.  After looking at this, maybe you too not
understand why the decision was made to eliminate an event that has been
consistently well represented by schools of all sizes over one that only a few
larger programs can enter.
> Also, in regards to the “new regatta decisions” I was under the impression
that they would present an idea to the FSRA group and we would be able to vote
on it – I didn’t think this was going to be a final draft presented to us from
the regatta committee.  Did I miss something at the meeting?  I was pretty sure
I heard a discussion about voting via email or reconvening before the spring
season.
> Regards,
> Ted Riedeburg
> Head Coach – Bolles Rowing
> The Bolles School
> 7400 San Jose Blvd.
> Jacksonville, FL  32217
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I'd like to point out the simply complaining won't help anyone.  With that
said I guess I have a question, is this a final schedule?  If it is, we can
start throwing ideas for 2008 States.  Otherwise, let's talk about some
simple solutions.  There are a few points I'd like to make:

1. States is a 2 day event, would it kill us to bring the F4+ back?

2. We might be the only ones in this situation, but I have 3 8th grade boys
(with one more coming next semester after soccer), and 3 senior guys.  This
means that 2 seniors will race the double, 1 will race the single.  Since
the 4 8th graders can't race in F4+, they can only race in the V4+ event.

3. Devisions are not made to "give" more people a state championship, they
are used to allow more people to be competative.  Would we expect a
lightweight boxer to fight a heavyweight?  Now I do agree that at some point
you go too far.  I don't see the point of 3rd boats and think we would do
just fine with V, JV, Fresh.  There's a reason I prefer the Fresh category
over the 3rd.  At the ages we are talking about 3 years is a huge
difference.  From my understanding a team with 24 seniors could have an all
senior V8, JV8, and 3rd 8 (and probably win every one of them).  The
freshmen category allowes our youngest members to become competative, which
in turn builds a strong athletic state of mind needed for later years iin
racing.  Giving us much better races later down the road.

Happy rowing,
      Yuval


>From: Dan Kempinger <kempinger@...>
>To: "Riedeburg, Ted" <riedeburgt@...>, <fsra@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [FSRA]
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:33:40 -0500
>
>
>Greetings-
>I hope this email is read without predetermined feelings attached. I am not
>interested in offending anyone as a coach or person.  These
>are only my opinions.
>As a member of this committee, I will tell you that some of the decisions
>we made were not easy.  As a coach of a smaller program, I was
>responsible for giving insight to the comittee on what the smaller teams
>were looking for.
>I will tell you that I voted to eliminate the Frosh 4+.  It may be well
>attended, and that's debatable when you look at the numbers.  We
>have 40+ organizations in the State. If we break that down to boys/girls,
>we are pushing 75+ organizations that could potentially
>enter a said event.  We have too many events.
>What we have to look at is not what works best for "me", but rather what we
>want the future of Florida rowing to look like.
>
>FSRA was established to organize a State Championship for the Scholastic
>teams. That is
>their only jurisdiction. However, the organization voted to allow clubs
>into that Championship race a few years ago, and since then
>clubs have the same amount of power in the Scholastic organization.  The
>annual fall meeting has become an intimidation festival, with
>newer, smaller teams taking a back seat verbally and organizationally to
>the more established larger teams (both club and scholastic)
>This year was an amazing site to behold with motions and seconds being made
>without discussions as if we could fix the problems later.
>We have 1 time/ year that we meet to discuss our State Championship, and we
>weren't afforded that time. Not to mention that our
>bylaws state that all changes to the constitiution require advanced notice
>to vote on, which we rarely get to do.  We cannot hold
>a vote via internet, so really the point is moot. Unless we want to all
>meet at a regatta this spring and hold a vote.
>Thankfully Dan Newman was able to get this comittee established to look at
>some of the challenges we have to face.
>
>The State Championship event should not be a place where you can go and
>find a race to become a State Champion. If it were up
>to me, we would have 5 events/side  @ the State Championship: Varsity 8+,
>Varsity 4+, Varsity 4X, Varsity 2x, and Varsity 1X. If you have
>9 rowers, you can enter every race. If it's important for you to win the
>all points trophy-teach your kids how to scull. If you only want to win
>the V8+ race the 8+. If you want to see if your program has improved over
>the past 10 years, continue to enter the 8+ and see where you finish
>we have no indicator as to who really has improved their programs, because
>we find events to race that sometimes have 10 entries and sometimes
>have 5.
>Clearly that isn't what many coaches want- it would require teams to teach
>sculling, and it would limit the number of kids that would
>get to race @ States.  I think it would level the playing field somewhat,
>and at the same time give us a true State Champion. The V8+ results would
>not have changed over the past 10 years, the V4+ definitely would have.
>What we have now is a fair race that follows a format of racing from around
>the country.  I will tell you that not everyone is going to be happy with
>any decision that is made, but we need to remember this when it comes to
>our fall meeting next year.  I vote now that we eliminate guest speakers,
>and allow time for business to be discussed.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>
>
>Dan Kempinger
>
>
>________________________________
> > To: FSRA@yahoogroups.com
> > From: riedeburgt@...
> > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:39:46 -0500
> > Subject: [FSRA]
> >
> > Members of the FSRA,
> > I did some research regarding participation in the Freshman 4+ vs. the
>3rd 8 over the last 8 years and it is very interesting.
> > First of all, I was extremely disappointed when the decision was made to
>eliminate the F4 from the state championship, and event that Bolles has had
>some success in – 3 state championships over that time.  And coming from a
>2A school, I feel that is a great accomplishment.  What I like about the
>Frosh events is that it makes for an exciting race and evens the playing
>field.  They are boats comprised of kids of the same age and ability –
>anyone’s game if you will.  By eliminating the 4 event, you take away that
>excitement from the smaller programs and only allow the larger programs
>that can put together a competitive boat – which don’t necessarily need the
>success at a young age - to spread the excitement of rowing in their
>school.  And, since the elimination of the novice events in the 2003 race,
>the F4’s have remained consistent while the 3rd 8’s have only increased by
>one or two entries (in 2005 and 2004, Winter Park represented two boys
>entries and in 2005 Winter Park had two girls boats in that race).
> > So, I have compiled a small spread sheet (see attached) showing the
>entries over the last 8 years, and you will see consistent entries (and
>more for that matter) in the Freshman 4+ event and ups and downs in the 3rd
>8, even after the novice entries were eliminated.  After looking at this,
>maybe you too not understand why the decision was made to eliminate an
>event that has been consistently well represented by schools of all sizes
>over one that only a few larger programs can enter.
> > Also, in regards to the “new regatta decisions” I was under the
>impression that they would present an idea to the FSRA group and we would
>be able to vote on it – I didn’t think this was going to be a final draft
>presented to us from the regatta committee.  Did I miss something at the
>meeting?  I was pretty sure I heard a discussion about voting via email or
>reconvening before the spring season.
> > Regards,
> > Ted Riedeburg
> > Head Coach – Bolles Rowing
> > The Bolles School
> > 7400 San Jose Blvd.
> > Jacksonville, FL  32217
> > (904) 424-2869 (cell)
> > (904) 256-5082 (boathouse)
> >
>
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>
>
>

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TO: FSRA Coaches
RE: FSRA State Championships

In the last week, there have been some long, thoughtful posts to the FSRA
regarding the Regatta Committee’s race packet for the 2007 FSRA State
Championship. Some of the posts, however, suggest that the Regatta Committee
had suspect or illegitimate motives, or that in its work, had an agenda to
undermine programs of certain sizes.

This could not be farther from the truth.

At the annual meeting, the FSRA General Membership voted on policies that
imposed certain limitations by having, for the first time ever, a two-day
regatta with a more sophisticated and fair progression system.

This move doubles the labor by the LOC, Officials, and regatta volunteers.
It will also be met with an increase in entry fees to pay for two days of
all required expenses. Additionally, because of the change, each team will
bear significantly greater transportation and lodging costs. To casually
suggest that an effort to limit the length or costs of the regatta stems
from malice and not from a good-faith attempt to produce the best possible
regatta is, frankly, offensive.

The FSRA General Membership, in a 4-hour annual meeting, is ill-equipped to
comprehensively analyze all aspects of a regatta, deliberate over intended
and unintended consequences of potential policies, and account for expected
revenues and costs. The very reason for a Regatta Committee is to tackle
these issues.

The Regatta Committee is not a new creation, but a permanent committee
created in Article VI, Section 2 of the FSRA Bylaws:

"The Executive Committee shall solicit volunteers and appoint a Regatta
Committee, as provided for in Article III, Section 1.d, of the Constitution,
at the Annual Meeting.  The Regatta Committee shall be responsible for the
administration and operation of the Annual State Championship Regattas of
the Association, including judicious use of funds to produce a quality
event."

In creating the Regatta Committee, the Executive Committee, consisting of
the five officers, added four more members to the Committee to have a
geographically and program-size diverse group. The committee represented
small, medium, and large schools and clubs from all corners of the Florida
rowing community. In addition, Tom Lineberry and Brice Crossley do not
currently affiliate with any program and provide an institutional
perspective dating back to the early days of Florida rowing.

We produced a work product that is sound. While it may be a
work-in-progress, it represents our best effort to produce a regatta under
the constraints imposed by the FSRA’s decisions at this year’s annual
meeting. The trade-off, for instance, of adopting a progression with reps
and semis was the necessity of reducing the number of events. The two
policies should not be viewed separately.

We cannot now revisit individual decisions or changes without revisiting all
decisions comprehensively. Adding events into the schedule adds hours of
regatta time and volunteer hours. This requires work and costs, in most
cases, not born by the individuals suggesting the changes.

Rowing in Florida is growing at an extraordinary pace. The FSRA State
Championship, however, cannot continue to be all things to all people. I
hope that we can move forward with the regatta preparations, have an
outstanding event this year, and prepare to make 2008 even better.

Thanks,

Dan Newman
FSRA President

Leon Crew
Varsity Coach
850.321.0738

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TO: FSRA Coaches
RE: 2007 Men’s Junior National Team Identification Camps

In addition to serving on the FSRA Executive Committee, I serve as the SE
Rep on the US Rowing Junior Men's Committee. This year, Marty Crotty, who
has coached the Junior team the last two years, has switched roles with
Colin Campbell, Marty's assistant coach on the team for the last two
summers.

The Junior team coaches will be holding two Southeastern Junior National
Team ID Camps that may be of interest to Florida programs. There will be a
camp in Tampa and another in Atlanta. Details will be updated on
www.usrowing.org.

I will keep you posted about ID camps for women.

ID Camp III
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007
Location: Plant High School Boathouse, Tampa, Fla.
Airport: Tampa (TPA)
Camp Contact: Colin Campbell (ccampbell@...)
Hours of Camp: 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Erging Component: 2k erg + Rowing Session
Registration: www.regattacentral.com
Registration Deadline: TBD

ID Camp V
Date: TBD
Location: TBD, Atlanta, Ga.
Airport: Atlanta (ATL)
Camp Contact: Colin Campbell (ccampbell@...)
Hours of Camp: 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Erging Component: 2k erg + Rowing Session
Registration: www.regattacentral.com
Registration Deadline: TBD

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