Florida Scholastic Rowing Association

The parking lot for the school is not on Mills Ave.  The parking lot that you
should use is one block west from Mills off kaley Avenue.  We will be meeting in
the cafeteria which is by the gym.

Tom L

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From: FSRA@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Crossley, Brice A
Sent: Wed 8/3/2005 11:54 AM
To: 'FSRA'
Subject: [FSRA] Meeting Minutes and directions


Please review the attached meeting minutes from last year. Approval of these
minutes will be ask of the general membership at the beginning of Saturday's
meeting. Also attached is the last spring 2006 regatta schedule.

The FSRA Annual Coaches Meeting is scheduled for Saturday, August 6, 2005, from
noon to approximately 4 pm.  It will be held at the Boone High School cafeteria
(800 Building).  Boone High School is located at 2000 S. Mills Avenue, Orlando,
FL. This link will provide a mapquest.com map:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=\
&searchtab=home&address=2000+S.+Mills+Avenue&city=orlando&state=fl&zipcode=

Directions to Boone High School (from Boone HS website):

From the North -
I-4 (west) to Kaley exit (east)
Proceed on Kaley
Turn right onto Mills

From the East -
East-West Expressway - West to Mills exit
Turn Left onto Mills
Turn Left at Briercliff
Right onto Kaley
Left at Mills

From the South -
I-4 (east) to Kaley exit (east)
Turn right onto Kaley
Turn right onto Mills

From the West -
East West Expressway - East to Mills exit
Right onto Mills
Turn Left on Briercliff
Right onto Kaley
Left at Mills

Cafeteria Directions: From the visitor parking lot, proceed south past the 1000,
300, 200, and 100 building. The 800 building will be on your left.

Thanks,
Brice A. Crossley
FSRA Corresponding Secretary


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Subject: RE: [FSRA] web updates and sample schedule

Brice:

I was of the understanding that the distance would still be as close to 2,000 meters as the course could be set.  Is this an error on my part or has there been a change?

I have difficulty with the idea of petit finals for non-championship events.  They merely crowd the schedule and take up space where perhaps better use could be made of the available time.

Were these two regattas really combined to make "everyone faster" as Dan states in his response? Sorry, the logic escapes me, but more to the point if I understand Dan's letter, I don't believe there is going to be any change in the large programs' philosophy regarding entering specific events.  A great deal of "pot collecting" mentality governs event subscription.  It is fairly clear that the V 4+ events are soft due to the talent drain created by the eights with the exception of the few crews who go for broke and enter their best athletes in both as permitted by the "championship event exception" to the doubling prohibition.

We will only have a true state championship when we limit ourselves to championship events only with the entries being unlimited by doubling prohibitions, and permitting fair spacing between events to permit strong athletes who are capable of competing in more than one event to do so and thus demonstrate their skills and prowess.

Peter 

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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:38:21 -0400

I have updated the spring regatta schedule page and contact lists. Please continue to email updates especially dual and tri meets.

 

Per our resolution to combine Scholastic and Youth Champs, I have put together a rough outline of a schedule base on entries from this past season. In the attachment, you will see I used the same start times as the Youth Champs (7 am meetings and 8 am first race). Using tight 6-minute centers and one hour lunch break, racing should be complete by 4:30 pm. I calculated 45 heats and 30 finals for a total of 75 races. Unless someone finds a serious flaw, this is the model we will use to plan for the 2006 state champs. Comments?

 

Thanks,

Brice A. Crossley

SGS Information Management Directorate

CIF Room 256, M/S: SGS-014

Kennedy Space Center, FL 32815

 

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Brice- With the clubs participating in the Scholastic Championships, how are
points going to be determined for the scholastic teams if there is no petite
final for the event?  Are they going to use the heat times? I know that
University School has no chance at an All-Points, but I do like to see where
we fall in the mix of things as we improve.
Quite honestly, if we wanted to make a "better, faster" regatta, we should
eliminate events, and offer more chances to make the final in the
majors...akin to most championships.  Heats-Reps-Semis etc.  Then teams
would have to be fast consistently throughout the day, and the smaller
schools could measure themselves amongst each other even if it were in a
petite or 3rd final.  I know this is hard to comprehend for some of the
traditional powers and larger clubs, but it's tough to build tradition in
the varsity 8+ when you only face the top teams in the state.  If you look
back at the entries to the V8 over the past 10 years the same schools show
up with the exception of some commendable coaches in the smaller schools.
Now, with the addition of 6 clubs at the race, how many small schools are
going to show up?  Just wondering, since we are supposedly looking out for
the entire state of Florida.
Honestly, I feel like there was little thought put into an extremely
sensitive issue on the pretense that it will benefit the state of Florida
rowing.  I have a very difficult time believing that because there will be
slightly more competition at one race...at the end of the year, that we are
going to be faster.  In fact, I think that over the past few years coaches
have realized that the true limitation to speed has been these drawn-out one
race regattas that take 3 days of training away from our kids.    The
increase in duals and tris and the increased base of knowledge that the
coaches have are going to make boats faster. Training makes boats fast, not
regattas. Regattas measure how fast you are.  If it were the other way
around, we would train one day and race 6.
What the Scholastic Championships was attempting to do was allow our high
schools an opportunity to bring back a state championship, like all of our
other teams at school can.  I know that they still can, but it's hard to
explain that you came in 2nd but still won. I don't think that is so
reprehensible, as it was made out to be.  I don't see the big schools
ducking out of competition anywhere else like it was implied. If the big
clubs want a true test at the end of the year, cut back on some of the
traveling and set up an invitational with the top three winners at
Scholastics invited to the Club Clobbering (I just made that up).  That way
the clubs don't feel cheated, they can say they beat the best before they
head up to Cincy, and we can maintain a semblance of tradition.
Just my two cents.
Thanks,
Dan


Dan Kempinger



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<div><font face=Arial size=2><span class=214221920-18082005>I have updated
the
spring regatta schedule page and contact lists. Please continue to email
updates
especially dual and tri meets.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=Arial size=2><span
class=214221920-18082005></span></font> </div>
<div><font face=Arial size=2><span class=214221920-18082005>Per our
resolution
to combine Scholastic and Youth Champs, I have put together a rough outline
of a
schedule base on entries from this past season. In the attachment, you will
see
I used the same start times as the Youth Champs (7 am meetings and 8 am
first
race). Using tight 6-minute centers and one hour lunch break, racing should
be
complete by 4:30 pm. I calculated 45 heats and 30 finals for a total of 75
races. Unless someone finds a serious flaw, this is the model we will use to
plan for the 2006 state champs. Comments?</span></font></div>
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class=214221920-18082005></span></font> </div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt">Brice A. Crossley</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">SGS Information Management
Directorate</font></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">CIF Room 256, M/S: SGS-014 </font></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">Kennedy
Space Center, FL
32815</font></font></p>
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size=2> </font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color="#008000"><font
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(office)</font></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color="#008000"
size=2>321-867-2409 (fax)</font></span></p></div>
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Sent: Fri 8/19/2005 3:46 PM
To: Brice.Crossley-1@...; FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FSRA] web updates and sample schedule



Brice- With the clubs participating in the Scholastic Championships, how are
points going to be determined for the scholastic teams if there is no petite
final for the event?  Are they going to use the heat times? I know that
University School has no chance at an All-Points, but I do like to see where
we fall in the mix of things as we improve.
Quite honestly, if we wanted to make a "better, faster" regatta, we should
eliminate events, and offer more chances to make the final in the
majors...akin to most championships.  Heats-Reps-Semis etc.  Then teams
would have to be fast consistently throughout the day, and the smaller
schools could measure themselves amongst each other even if it were in a
petite or 3rd final.  I know this is hard to comprehend for some of the
traditional powers and larger clubs, but it's tough to build tradition in
the varsity 8+ when you only face the top teams in the state.  If you look
back at the entries to the V8 over the past 10 years the same schools show
up with the exception of some commendable coaches in the smaller schools.
Now, with the addition of 6 clubs at the race, how many small schools are
going to show up?  Just wondering, since we are supposedly looking out for
the entire state of Florida.
Honestly, I feel like there was little thought put into an extremely
sensitive issue on the pretense that it will benefit the state of Florida
rowing.  I have a very difficult time believing that because there will be
slightly more competition at one race...at the end of the year, that we are
going to be faster.  In fact, I think that over the past few years coaches
have realized that the true limitation to speed has been these drawn-out one
race regattas that take 3 days of training away from our kids.    The
increase in duals and tris and the increased base of knowledge that the
coaches have are going to make boats faster. Training makes boats fast, not
regattas. Regattas measure how fast you are.  If it were the other way
around, we would train one day and race 6.
What the Scholastic Championships was attempting to do was allow our high
schools an opportunity to bring back a state championship, like all of our
other teams at school can.  I know that they still can, but it's hard to
explain that you came in 2nd but still won. I don't think that is so
reprehensible, as it was made out to be.  I don't see the big schools
ducking out of competition anywhere else like it was implied. If the big
clubs want a true test at the end of the year, cut back on some of the
traveling and set up an invitational with the top three winners at
Scholastics invited to the Club Clobbering (I just made that up).  That way
the clubs don't feel cheated, they can say they beat the best before they
head up to Cincy, and we can maintain a semblance of tradition.
Just my two cents.
Thanks,
Dan


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the
spring regatta schedule page and contact lists. Please continue to email
updates
especially dual and tri meets.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=Arial size=2><span
class=214221920-18082005></span></font> </div>
<div><font face=Arial size=2><span class=214221920-18082005>Per our
resolution
to combine Scholastic and Youth Champs, I have put together a rough outline
of a
schedule base on entries from this past season. In the attachment, you will
see
I used the same start times as the Youth Champs (7 am meetings and 8 am
first
race). Using tight 6-minute centers and one hour lunch break, racing should
be
complete by 4:30 pm. I calculated 45 heats and 30 finals for a total of 75
races. Unless someone finds a serious flaw, this is the model we will use to
plan for the 2006 state champs. Comments?</span></font></div>
<div><font face=Arial size=2><span
class=214221920-18082005></span></font> </div>
<div align=left><span style="font-size:12pt">
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" align=left>Thanks,</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt">Brice A. Crossley</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">SGS Information Management
Directorate</font></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">CIF Room 256, M/S: SGS-014 </font></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=2><font
color="#008000">Kennedy
Space Center, FL
32815</font></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color="#008000"><font
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(office)</font></font></p>
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size=2>321-867-2409 (fax)</font></span></p></div>
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provide 3 names of reference with phone numbers. AA/EOE.

To all:

In reply to Steve's comment about ' at ' vs. '@' in the online contact list,
I have been making a series of changes the last couple years to minimize the
effects of website scrapers from collecting email addresses and adding them
to SPAM lists. Your email addresses are protected in the FSRA yahoo email
group; they are NOT protected on the contact list web page. The same goes
for your phone numbers listed online too. If you don't want your phone
number listed, please let me know and I'll make a change to "NL" for 'not
listed'. If you want the @ listed in your online email address, I'll make
that change too but I don't want to then hear that you are not getting
emails because your email box is full. Yahoo groups provides an audit trail
of the number of message bounces and reason why delivery failed.

FYI: as it is a contact list, if you don't provide an email address, I won't
list the name. You can go to the team's page to get a roster of coaches. I
think you will agree I have enough material to maintain.

Second item, several made comment they don't like the position titles I use.
I prefer to use Men's and Women's Coach instead of Head Coach because 1) to
me the Men or Women titles already implies Head coach, 2) it allows peers to
identify their respective counterparts when for example one men's coach
needs to talk with another team's men's coach, and 3) I think multiple head
coaches on a team defeats the point of that title.

I try to respect all your requests while at the same time providing some
consistency. And for those who like to print things out, shorter
descriptions are better. With that all said, as time allows I continue to
update the pages. And Peter, Steve, etc., if you still want those requested
changes, please reply.

Thanks for your understanding and support with this volunteer effort. Brice.


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From: Steve Hitchcock [mailto:sthitchcock@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Brice.Crossley-1@...
Subject: Updates to calendar and contact list


Brice,
Re. the contact list:
... also my e-mail should have '@' not 'at'.

Thanks,

Steve Hitchcock
Stanton Rowing

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Clarke [mailto:Dean.Clarke@...]
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:46 AM
To: ghoti
Subject: Franklin Award Recommendation


        Attached, please find my proposal of Marty Wiener as this year's
recipient of the Franklin Award for meritorious lifetime service and
dedication to the sport of rowing. I'd appreciate it if you could follow up
with your own, additional letters of recommendation. Please forward them to
Amanda Watlington (awatlington@...), with copies to Jody Pope
(jody@...) and Bob Appleyard (applerows@...). Also, feel
free to forward this request to any and all that you think might be willing
to put in a good word.

         Thanks,

        Dean Travis Clarke
        Executive Editor
        Sport Fishing Magazine
        Marlin Magazine
        Fly Fishing in Salt Waters Magazine
        Boating Life Magazine
        Host of Sport Fishing Magazine TV on OLN
        460 N. Orlando Ave. Suite 200
        Winter Park, FL 32789
        407-571-4578
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From: Robert Appleyard [mailto:applerows@...]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:24 PM
To: Dean Clarke
Subject: Re: Franklin Award Recommendation

        Dean-

        Thank you.  A very suitable nomination, in my humble opinion.

        We will send out a solicitation for nominations next week, so
excellent anticipation on your part.

        The Franklin award will be decided by the current members of the
referee commission ... hopefully we'll have completed the selection by late
October.  I think most, but perhaps not all current members know Marty. I'll
leave it up to you and others who support your nomination to decide whether
to send anything further in support.

        regards,
        -Bob Appleyard


        >

        > On behalf of all the referees in the State of Florida as well as
many more in the Southeast region, I hereby proffer Mr. Marty Wiener as a
potential Franklin award recipient. I think the short bio I've attached
explains why we all think so highly of him. Yes, the Men's Varsity 8 Trophy
is named for him in the Florida Scholastic Championships, but that hardly
seems enough recognition for the direct or indirect impact he has had on
virtually every referee in our region. Thank you for considering him.

        >

        > Dean Travis Clarke

        > Executive Editor

        > Sport Fishing Magazine

        > Marlin Magazine

        > Fly Fishing in Salt Waters Magazine

        > Boating Life Magazine

        > Host of Sport Fishing Magazine TV on OLN

        > 460 N. Orlando Ave. Suite 200

        > Winter Park, FL 32789

        > 407-571-4578

        > 407-571-5479-fax

        > dean.clarke@...

        >

        > US Rowing referee #620 - aka "The Troublemaker"

Immediate opening for High School Men's Head Coach

The Pine Crest school has an immediate opening for Head Men's Crew
Coach/Upper School Proctor. The position is full-time and includes benefits
and housing.  Pine Crest is a highly academic, independent, college
preparatory day school located in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.  The School's
state-of-the-art athletic facilities includes the on-campus Kelly Boathouse,
which houses 3-eights for men and 4-fours which are shared with the women's
program.  The boathouse also has an erg room with 16 ergs, an office and
changing rooms for both the  Men and  the Women.
Last season the Lightweight 8 captured the state championship, and both the
Lightweight 8 and Varsity 4 made the finals of Scholastic Nationals.
The Head Men's Coach would be responsible for the training of approximately
35 varsity athletes and would be expected to help train the freshmen rowers
as well.   As there are currently no teaching positions available at the
school, the Coach will be assigned various duties such as proctoring or
substituting during the school day.

Minimum Qualifications:
Bachelors degree
4 years of competitive rowing/coxing experience at the High School,
Collegiate or elite level.
3 years of coaching experience at the high School, Collegiate or elite
level.

Salary is commensurate with experience.

Please direct general questions about the rowing program to Liza Dickson.
E-mail:  eliza.dickson@...
phone:  954-401-1393

Resumes & cover letters can be sent to :
James Foster, Athletic Director
1501 Northeast 62 nd Street
Ft. Lauderdale, FL  33334

Dear FSRA,

Leon Crew will NOT be hosting The Sunburn this November.  I apologize for
the late announcement.  The Leon Crew Board and coaching staff has voted
against hosting the event for numerous reasons.  I will be glad to explain
the reasoning if necessary.  Just send me an email for further info
(tjmorgan@...).

Sincerely,

Tom






Dr. Tom Morgan Jr. Ph.D.
The Florida State University School
3000 School House Road
Tallahassee, FL 32311-7855
(850)245-3773 w
(850)321-0739 c