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RE: [FSRA] web updates and sample schedule

Nice job Dan!

Mike

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From: FSRA@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dan Kempinger
Sent: Fri 8/19/2005 3:46 PM
To: Brice.Crossley-1@...; FSRA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FSRA] web updates and sample schedule



Brice- With the clubs participating in the Scholastic Championships, how are
points going to be determined for the scholastic teams if there is no petite
final for the event? Are they going to use the heat times? I know that
University School has no chance at an All-Points, but I do like to see where
we fall in the mix of things as we improve.
Quite honestly, if we wanted to make a "better, faster" regatta, we should
eliminate events, and offer more chances to make the final in the
majors...akin to most championships. Heats-Reps-Semis etc. Then teams
would have to be fast consistently throughout the day, and the smaller
schools could measure themselves amongst each other even if it were in a
petite or 3rd final. I know this is hard to comprehend for some of the
traditional powers and larger clubs, but it's tough to build tradition in
the varsity 8+ when you only face the top teams in the state. If you look
back at the entries to the V8 over the past 10 years the same schools show
up with the exception of some commendable coaches in the smaller schools.
Now, with the addition of 6 clubs at the race, how many small schools are
going to show up? Just wondering, since we are supposedly looking out for
the entire state of Florida.
Honestly, I feel like there was little thought put into an extremely
sensitive issue on the pretense that it will benefit the state of Florida
rowing. I have a very difficult time believing that because there will be
slightly more competition at one race...at the end of the year, that we are
going to be faster. In fact, I think that over the past few years coaches
have realized that the true limitation to speed has been these drawn-out one
race regattas that take 3 days of training away from our kids. The
increase in duals and tris and the increased base of knowledge that the
coaches have are going to make boats faster. Training makes boats fast, not
regattas. Regattas measure how fast you are. If it were the other way
around, we would train one day and race 6.
What the Scholastic Championships was attempting to do was allow our high
schools an opportunity to bring back a state championship, like all of our
other teams at school can. I know that they still can, but it's hard to
explain that you came in 2nd but still won. I don't think that is so
reprehensible, as it was made out to be. I don't see the big schools
ducking out of competition anywhere else like it was implied. If the big
clubs want a true test at the end of the year, cut back on some of the
traveling and set up an invitational with the top three winners at
Scholastics invited to the Club Clobbering (I just made that up). That way
the clubs don't feel cheated, they can say they beat the best before they
head up to Cincy, and we can maintain a semblance of tradition.
Just my two cents.
Thanks,
Dan


Dan Kempinger



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<div><font face=Arial size=2><span class=214221920-18082005>I have updated
the
spring regatta schedule page and contact lists. Please continue to email
updates
especially dual and tri meets.</span></font></div>
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<div><font face=Arial size=2><span class=214221920-18082005>Per our
resolution
to combine Scholastic and Youth Champs, I have put together a rough outline
of a
schedule base on entries from this past season. In the attachment, you will
see
I used the same start times as the Youth Champs (7 am meetings and 8 am
first
race). Using tight 6-minute centers and one hour lunch break, racing should
be
complete by 4:30 pm. I calculated 45 heats and 30 finals for a total of 75
races. Unless someone finds a serious flaw, this is the model we will use to
plan for the 2006 state champs. Comments?</span></font></div>
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I have updated the spring regatta schedule page and contact lists. Please continue to email updates especially dual and tri meets. Per our resolution to...
Crossley, Brice A
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Aug 18, 2005
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Brice: It seems to me that since the group at the coaches meeting earlier this month based the "resolution" to combine the Scholastic and Youth Championships...
Bertossa, Daniel
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Aug 19, 2005
10:43 am

Brice: I was of the understanding that the distance would still be as close to 2,000 meters as the course could be set. Is this an error on my part or has...
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Aug 19, 2005
12:42 pm

As a point of clarification... It was decided (and voted upon) that the race would be 1500m and would follow the "scholastic" rules... i.e. NO DOUBLING, except...
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Aug 19, 2005
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Brice- With the clubs participating in the Scholastic Championships, how are points going to be determined for the scholastic teams if there is no petite final...
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Aug 19, 2005
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Dan: There are numerous points raised in your letter, but I will limit this observation to one, the issue of " it's hard to explain that you came in 2nd but...
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Aug 20, 2005
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Nice job Dan! Mike ________________________________ From: FSRA@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dan Kempinger Sent: Fri 8/19/2005 3:46 PM To:...
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To all coaches and other interested persons: FSRA's letter includes the subject of web updates so it seems fitting to point out that Osprey Oars' web site has...
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