Fuyu Li from the Marco Polo Cycling Team, lasr year golden medalist of the Chinese Games, is the first Chinese cyclist to win a race in Europe. He won the GP Westfalen, a well know semi-classic in Dortmund, Germany.
Halfway the 135 KM race, Marco Polo riders Fuyu Li as well as Yu Tong and Remko Kramer (the young brother of Gudo) made the break in a 17 men front group. Fuyu mentioned he was feeling good, so Yu Tong and Remko Kramer worked hard to keep the break out of reach of the chasing peloton on the fast hilly circuit. Going into the last lap, Fuyu as well as Yu Tong made it in a 6 rider break. On the hill leading to the finish, Fuyu outsprinted the rest of the group with distance, taking this first European victory.
The GP Westfalen has a rich history of over 70 years. In the list of past winners you find famous riders like Erik Zabel,
Bradley McGee and Stuart O’Grady. Let’s hope there is also a future like these riders have for Fuyu Li.
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Dear all : 2006 Shimano Biker's Festival is coming on July 1 in Nanjing ( the capital of Jiangsu province , 3 hours from Shanghai ) . The register dead line is June 10th.
I will participate 2 Man elite race with Liangzi . One is 24 km ( 3km/lap * 8) open race , the other is 12 km(3km/lap* 4) team time trial . We will work with 2 Guangzhou guys in team time trial and the team name is FHL+ CCN united team
.
Somebody want to go ? You can register in the Giant shop located in Jianguo xi LU.
To Chris : Can we wear our new FHL gear before July 1 ? The attachment is the race court map and time schedule . <<shimano festival.jpg>> <<shimano festival time schedule.jpg>>
From: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of simon.cui@... Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:54 PM To: mark.griffin@...; marcel.heim@...; jpdawance@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Cc: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Ok , all: let we discuss this plan.
We plan to spend 2 days on climb uphills in Anji on June 3th and 4th .
The route: Saturday , start somewhere from Muganshan, end at the top of the mountain .Totally 120km and last 18km is absolutely uphill altitude raise 1000meters.
live in Anji one night .
Sunday , start from hotel to the mountain top total 40 km .
How to get there: If you have car , the best way is use it . If you have extra seats, somebody else can share the cost .
Basically , we will use the car of 27bikes , available for 8 seats +8 bikes . Now 6 seats have been booked.
Detail will be confirmed after we know who will go and stay just one day or 2 days .
The place and direction map will be sent by our Marcel who will participate a 1 week tour race only on the mountains.
From: Griffin, Mark [mailto:mark.griffin@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:37 PM To: marcel.heim@...; Cui Simon CCF; jpdawance@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
I may also want to go. Details???
-Mark
From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:51 PM To: simon.cui@...; jpdawance@...; Griffin, Mark; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Oh that’ll be great. I really want to go. Christopher as well I think.
Now I finally know the secret of your strength. Please don’t be so tough with us on the uphill. Otherwise I will loose my self confidence.
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 13:45 To: Marcel Heim; jpdawance@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Actually , I spended 2 weeks on Anji and living in a hotel on the top of the mountain. 10 times at least ,climbed the continual 18 km uphill .
Marcel , what about the June 3 ,the Anji plan ? We can use the car of 27bikes ( 8 seats+8 bikes). Somebody else want ?
From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:37 PM To: Cui Simon CCF; jpdawance@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Red dot jersey only for the one who climbs Sheshan 20 times. You will get the honory title “slave of Sheshanâ€
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 13:26 To: jpdawance@...; Marcel Heim; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Yes , JP is right . But , i want to explain something .
This winter, I did more endurance training from Dec to the begining of Apr. When I did the training , it was high average candence 100+ rpm ,low speed about 30 km/h , long distance 120k, 150k . At first , I felt very tired even it was just 80km . But , at the end of program , it was ok even it was 160km .During the training , just a little bit stength training was done( this should be a mistake ).
From , Apr. to now , I focus on the high intensive training , interval training , stength training ,power training .And , I can feel that I am geting stronger and stronger .At the same time , I feel that I am fresh before the final sprint when we do the normal 90km distance .It is very different with last year and should be the gain of the winter endurance training.
When we did the 150 km last month , I felt my endurance ability was much better than last year .
Actually , we have had a very good training schedule :
Tuesday for 40km team time trial , you can do high intensive interval training (like Mlss heart rate power output ); Thursday is a good time for your power training ( sprint at each bridge, individual time trial ) or strength training ( i did like as: increase one level each lap , yesterday morning , my last lap was 53-12 , 80rpm .At last , i lost the control of my muscle ).
Saturday , we can ride as a race . Sunday can be a race or a endurance training . Anyway , endurance training should always be a part of your program . The different is you need to decide how long time should you spend on the endurance training when you face up different race target.
Because Marcel should participate a tour race , I think his program is right :endurance + high intensive interval training . Oh, a fantastic tour race for climber . Marcel , do not forget take more red point jerseys for us .
From: Jean-Pierre Dawance [mailto:jpdawance@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:28 PM To: marcel.heim@...; Cui Simon CCF; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Dear All,
I am also smiling a bit, like Marcel, when I see "recovery ride"...
A "recovery ride" is not a "low pace long distance". Let me explain:
When you go for a longer than usual ride even at low pace, you work your endurance. This training is very tiring when done in excess, even if you do not feel it directly. You fell confortable during the effort and after the ride (especially if you comparewith a short distance at high intensity) but the tiredness is real. You accumulate this tiredness without noticing and this is the danger. This can lead to slowly become a diesel engine -yes, you are confortable at this specific speed- but you loose you potential to accelerate and to change rhythm. I am afraid Simon is now suffering from too much of this training sessions performed this winter and still now To avoid this trap, the "pro" are including in their endurance winter program a specific work which I can explain once.
Do we need "low pace long distance" endurance training?
YES! If not, you have difficulties with the distance of the race, you do not perform well in the second part of the race or in the last kilometers. Marcel and Chris are going for a "marathon" ride in Europe with several stages (not needing to jump here and there), so endurance training is a must.
Do we need recovery ride (60' to 90' max, 115-130bpm with your most confortable gear)?
Honestly, NO in our case. For two reasons: 1.- Most of us (since James is gone) are resting on Mon, Wed and Fri. More than enough! 2.- We (so far) did not go through real intensive training session leaving us so destroyed the following day that you need to spin your legs to eliminate the toxins.
I said so far.
Cheers, JP.
-----Original Message----- From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:48 AM To: simon.cui@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@... Cc: Dawance,JeanPierre,Shanghai,FM; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: weekend rides
Sorry, but I don¡¯t care too much about who has which training schedule. I know that I will have a tough week in front of me in Europe and I need some indurance for this. High intensity I can do weekday mornings and I actually do (even though Mark may not believe). Sunday does not work for me for the long ride. So whoever wants to join on Saturday may join. Otherwise I¡¯ll do it alone (also no problem).
Moreover regarding recovery ride I have the impression that only a very few FHL-folks know what that is, but most likely I am only totally out of shape. Therefore for recovery I may have to join the B group or even do it on my own.
Cheers
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 09:21 To: mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@... Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@...; ChoaC@...; Marcel Heim Subject: RE: weekend rides
Totally agree with Herman's idea .
On sat , we can do some intensive interval training . Sunday for a long distance indurance training .
Tuesday for our team time trial . Thursday for individual time trial or power training or strength training..
From:Griffin, Mark [mailto:mark.griffin@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:27 AM To: herman.verhoeven@...; Cui Simon CCF; chris steffens Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@... Subject: RE: weekend rides
I¡¯m Ok with proposal below.
We will discuss on Saturday so everyone knows plan and then on Sunday, folks can turn around at drink stand or continue for longer ride at recovery pace.
-Mark
From: herman.verhoeven@... [mailto:herman.verhoeven@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:22 AM To:Griffin, Mark Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@... Subject: Re: weekend rides
Mark,
actually I was more thinking about increasing the intensity and not increasing the training duration at this time of the season. Although Di Shui Lake is an absolutely great ride. Can we do it like this: Sa. intensive (short) intervals, normal distance Su. relaxed long recovery ride.
The other way around is also fine if it suits you or the others better. Of course it will top off the intensity a bit on the following day.
Just let me know the plan so I can bring sufficient energy supplies, other than that I'm quite flexible.
Looks like a nice weekend for riding. Any thoughts about a longer ride either sat or sun? back to Di Shui Lake??? -Mark
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We plan to spend 2 days on climb uphills in Anji on June 3th and 4th .
The route: Saturday , start somewhere from Muganshan, end at the top of the mountain .Totally 120km and last 18km is absolutely uphill altitude raise 1000meters.
live in Anji one night .
Sunday , start from hotel to the mountain top total 40 km .
How to get there: If you have car , the best way is use it . If you have extra seats, somebody else can share the cost .
Basically , we will use the car of 27bikes , available for 8 seats +8 bikes . Now 6 seats have been booked.
Detail will be confirmed after we know who will go and stay just one day or 2 days .
The place and direction map will be sent by our Marcel who will participate a 1 week tour race only on the mountains.
From: Griffin, Mark [mailto:mark.griffin@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:37 PM To: marcel.heim@...; Cui Simon CCF; jpdawance@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
I may also want to go. Details???
-Mark
From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:51 PM To: simon.cui@...; jpdawance@...; Griffin, Mark; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Oh that’ll be great. I really want to go. Christopher as well I think.
Now I finally know the secret of your strength. Please don’t be so tough with us on the uphill. Otherwise I will loose my self confidence.
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 13:45 To: Marcel Heim; jpdawance@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Actually , I spended 2 weeks on Anji and living in a hotel on the top of the mountain. 10 times at least ,climbed the continual 18 km uphill .
Marcel , what about the June 3 ,the Anji plan ? We can use the car of 27bikes ( 8 seats+8 bikes). Somebody else want ?
From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:37 PM To: Cui Simon CCF; jpdawance@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Red dot jersey only for the one who climbs Sheshan 20 times. You will get the honory title “slave of Sheshanâ€
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 13:26 To: jpdawance@...; Marcel Heim; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Yes , JP is right . But , i want to explain something .
This winter, I did more endurance training from Dec to the begining of Apr. When I did the training , it was high average candence 100+ rpm ,low speed about 30 km/h , long distance 120k, 150k . At first , I felt very tired even it was just 80km . But , at the end of program , it was ok even it was 160km .During the training , just a little bit stength training was done( this should be a mistake ).
From , Apr. to now , I focus on the high intensive training , interval training , stength training ,power training .And , I can feel that I am geting stronger and stronger .At the same time , I feel that I am fresh before the final sprint when we do the normal 90km distance .It is very different with last year and should be the gain of the winter endurance training.
When we did the 150 km last month , I felt my endurance ability was much better than last year .
Actually , we have had a very good training schedule :
Tuesday for 40km team time trial , you can do high intensive interval training (like Mlss heart rate power output ); Thursday is a good time for your power training ( sprint at each bridge, individual time trial ) or strength training ( i did like as: increase one level each lap , yesterday morning , my last lap was 53-12 , 80rpm .At last , i lost the control of my muscle ).
Saturday , we can ride as a race . Sunday can be a race or a endurance training . Anyway , endurance training should always be a part of your program . The different is you need to decide how long time should you spend on the endurance training when you face up different race target.
Because Marcel should participate a tour race , I think his program is right :endurance + high intensive interval training . Oh, a fantastic tour race for climber . Marcel , do not forget take more red point jerseys for us .
From: Jean-Pierre Dawance [mailto:jpdawance@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:28 PM To: marcel.heim@...; Cui Simon CCF; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@...; ChoaC@... Subject: "Recovery" ride or "low pace long distance" ride?
Dear All,
I am also smiling a bit, like Marcel, when I see "recovery ride"...
A "recovery ride" is not a "low pace long distance". Let me explain:
When you go for a longer than usual ride even at low pace, you work your endurance. This training is very tiring when done in excess, even if you do not feel it directly. You fell confortable during the effort and after the ride (especially if you comparewith a short distance at high intensity) but the tiredness is real. You accumulate this tiredness without noticing and this is the danger. This can lead to slowly become a diesel engine -yes, you are confortable at this specific speed- but you loose you potential to accelerate and to change rhythm. I am afraid Simon is now suffering from too much of this training sessions performed this winter and still now To avoid this trap, the "pro" are including in their endurance winter program a specific work which I can explain once.
Do we need "low pace long distance" endurance training?
YES! If not, you have difficulties with the distance of the race, you do not perform well in the second part of the race or in the last kilometers. Marcel and Chris are going for a "marathon" ride in Europe with several stages (not needing to jump here and there), so endurance training is a must.
Do we need recovery ride (60' to 90' max, 115-130bpm with your most confortable gear)?
Honestly, NO in our case. For two reasons: 1.- Most of us (since James is gone) are resting on Mon, Wed and Fri. More than enough! 2.- We (so far) did not go through real intensive training session leaving us so destroyed the following day that you need to spin your legs to eliminate the toxins.
I said so far.
Cheers, JP.
-----Original Message----- From: marcel.heim@... [mailto:marcel.heim@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:48 AM To: simon.cui@...; mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@... Cc: Dawance,JeanPierre,Shanghai,FM; ChoaC@... Subject: RE: weekend rides
Sorry, but I don¡¯t care too much about who has which training schedule. I know that I will have a tough week in front of me in Europe and I need some indurance for this. High intensity I can do weekday mornings and I actually do (even though Mark may not believe). Sunday does not work for me for the long ride. So whoever wants to join on Saturday may join. Otherwise I¡¯ll do it alone (also no problem).
Moreover regarding recovery ride I have the impression that only a very few FHL-folks know what that is, but most likely I am only totally out of shape. Therefore for recovery I may have to join the B group or even do it on my own.
Cheers
Marcel
From: simon.cui@... [mailto:simon.cui@...] Sent: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 09:21 To: mark.griffin@...; herman.verhoeven@...; christopher.steffens@... Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@...; ChoaC@...; Marcel Heim Subject: RE: weekend rides
Totally agree with Herman's idea .
On sat , we can do some intensive interval training . Sunday for a long distance indurance training .
Tuesday for our team time trial . Thursday for individual time trial or power training or strength training..
From:Griffin, Mark [mailto:mark.griffin@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:27 AM To: herman.verhoeven@...; Cui Simon CCF; chris steffens Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@... Subject: RE: weekend rides
I¡¯m Ok with proposal below.
We will discuss on Saturday so everyone knows plan and then on Sunday, folks can turn around at drink stand or continue for longer ride at recovery pace.
-Mark
From: herman.verhoeven@... [mailto:herman.verhoeven@...] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:22 AM To:Griffin, Mark Cc: Jean-Pierre.Dawance@... Subject: Re: weekend rides
Mark,
actually I was more thinking about increasing the intensity and not increasing the training duration at this time of the season. Although Di Shui Lake is an absolutely great ride. Can we do it like this: Sa. intensive (short) intervals, normal distance Su. relaxed long recovery ride.
The other way around is also fine if it suits you or the others better. Of course it will top off the intensity a bit on the following day.
Just let me know the plan so I can bring sufficient energy supplies, other than that I'm quite flexible.
Looks like a nice weekend for riding. Any thoughts about a longer ride either sat or sun? back to Di Shui Lake??? -Mark
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Thanks Simon. Hello everybody! I hope to attend club, can promote my
ability increase more.
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--- In FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com, simon.cui@... wrote:
>
> Dear Chirs:
> Our new member Wangdadong want to order our FHL gears : jersey +
shorter both size M . This mail is the confirmation .
>
> Best Regards
>
> Simon Cui ´Þ³¯·É
>
> Sales Manager of East China
>
> Vaisala China Co., Ltd Shanghai Branch
>
> Tel: 021-5132 0656 138 1736 7175
> Fax: 021-5132 0657
>
Simon: How many persons? WE can make a FHL team
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wrote:
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> :--))
> Allen: the team name is : FHL+ CCN United Team . Our
friends : Jianzhi hang and Wang yongjian . Jian and I agreed with
each other in last month .
>
> Actually , I want to make a FHL team if we have enough FHL
players .
> According to the time schedule , we need to live in hotel one
night . What about the Hilton ( Nanjing ) hotel ? Very good price
for weekend 598 /room ( with 2 breakfast )
>
> Best Regards
>
> Simon Cui å´"æœé£?
>
> Sales Manager of East China
>
> Vaisala China Co., Ltd Shanghai Branch
>
> Tel: 021-5132 0656 138 1736 7175
> Fax: 021-5132 0657
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
alueth1996
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:22 PM
> To: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] Re: Race is coming
>
>
> I plan to register too. Anyone else interested in forming a team
> for the four-person TTT?
>
> Simon, you traitor! How can you team up with the Guangzhou guys?
> Who are the two -- Jian Zhi Hang and Bigman? If so then the only
> thing that can stop you from winning is two flat tires. If not I
> will call them tonight & join their team.
>
> Allen
>
> --- In FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com, simon.cui@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all :
> > 2006 Shimano Biker's Festival is coming on July 1 in Nanjing (
> the capital of Jiangsu province , 3 hours from Shanghai ) . The
> register dead line is June 10th.
> > I will participate 2 Man elite race with Liangzi . One is 24
km
> ( 3km/lap * 8) open race , the other is 12 km(3km/lap* 4) team
> time trial . We will work with 2 Guangzhou guys in team time
trial
> and the team name is FHL+ CCN united team .
> >
> > Somebody want to go ? You can register in the Giant shop
> located in Jianguo xi LU.
> >
> > To Chris :
> > Can we wear our new FHL gear before July 1 ? The attachment is
> the race court map and time schedule . <<shimano festival.jpg>>
> <<shimano festival time schedule.jpg>>
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Simon Cui ´Þ³¯·É
> >
> > Sales Manager of East China
> >
> > Vaisala China Co., Ltd Shanghai Branch
> >
> > Tel: 021-5132 0656 138 1736 7175
> > Fax: 021-5132 0657
> >
>
>
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Allen: the team name is : FHL+ CCN United Team . Our friends : Jianzhi hang and Wang yongjian . Jian and I agreed with each other in last month .
Actually , I want to make a FHL team if we have enough FHL players .
According to the time schedule , we need to live in hotel one night . What about the Hilton ( Nanjing ) hotel ? Very good price for weekend 598 /room ( with 2 breakfast )
From: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of alueth1996 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:22 PM To: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] Re: Race is coming
I plan to register too. Anyone else interested in forming a team for the four-person TTT?
Simon, you traitor! How can you team up with the Guangzhou guys? Who are the two -- Jian Zhi Hang and Bigman? If so then the only thing that can stop you from winning is two flat tires. If not I will call them tonight & join their team.
Allen
--- In FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com, simon.cui@... wrote: > > Dear all : > 2006 Shimano Biker's Festival is coming on July 1 in Nanjing ( the capital of Jiangsu province , 3 hours from Shanghai ) . The register dead line is June 10th. > I will participate 2 Man elite race with Liangzi . One is 24 km ( 3km/lap * 8) open race , the other is 12 km(3km/lap* 4) team time trial . We will work with 2 Guangzhou guys in team time trial and the team name is FHL+ CCN united team . > > Somebody want to go ? You can register in the Giant shop located in Jianguo xi LU. > > To Chris : > Can we wear our new FHL gear before July 1 ? The attachment is the race court map and time schedule . <<shimano festival.jpg>> <<shimano festival time schedule.jpg>> > > Best Regards > > Simon Cui ´Þ³¯·É > > Sales Manager of East China > > Vaisala China Co., Ltd Shanghai Branch > > Tel: 021-5132 0656 138 1736 7175 > Fax: 021-5132 0657 >
I plan to register too. Anyone else interested in forming a team
for the four-person TTT?
Simon, you traitor! How can you team up with the Guangzhou guys?
Who are the two -- Jian Zhi Hang and Bigman? If so then the only
thing that can stop you from winning is two flat tires. If not I
will call them tonight & join their team.
Allen
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wrote:
>
> Dear all :
> 2006 Shimano Biker's Festival is coming on July 1 in Nanjing (
the capital of Jiangsu province , 3 hours from Shanghai ) . The
register dead line is June 10th.
> I will participate 2 Man elite race with Liangzi . One is 24 km
( 3km/lap * 8) open race , the other is 12 km(3km/lap* 4) team
time trial . We will work with 2 Guangzhou guys in team time trial
and the team name is FHL+ CCN united team .
>
> Somebody want to go ? You can register in the Giant shop
located in Jianguo xi LU.
>
> To Chris :
> Can we wear our new FHL gear before July 1 ? The attachment is
the race court map and time schedule . <<shimano festival.jpg>>
<<shimano festival time schedule.jpg>>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Simon Cui ´Þ³¯·É
>
> Sales Manager of East China
>
> Vaisala China Co., Ltd Shanghai Branch
>
> Tel: 021-5132 0656 138 1736 7175
> Fax: 021-5132 0657
>
Dear all : 2006 Shimano Biker's Festival is coming on July 1 in Nanjing ( the capital of Jiangsu province , 3 hours from Shanghai ) . The register dead line is June 10th.
I will participate 2 Man elite race with Liangzi . One is 24 km ( 3km/lap * 8) open race , the other is 12 km(3km/lap* 4) team time trial . We will work with 2 Guangzhou guys in team time trial and the team name is FHL+ CCN united team .
Somebody want to go ? You can register in the Giant shop located in Jianguo xi LU.
To Chris : Can we wear our new FHL gear before July 1 ? The attachment is the race court map and time schedule . <<shimano festival.jpg>> <<shimano festival time schedule.jpg>>
Mr. Gao is a former shanghai cycling team member . Yes , his RMB price is fair because he should pay all the taxes .
But , if you buy from Bjorn and delivery to Hongkong or usa and take into china by yourself as a private use wheel s , you can save much money 35% maybe .
I won't take all that they hand me down, And make out a smile, though I wear a frown, And I won't take it all lying down, 'Cause once I get started I go to town.
'Cause I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
And I don't want to ball about like everybody else, And I don't want to live my life like everybody else, And I won't say that I feel fine like everybody else, 'Cause I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
But darling, you know that I love you true, Do anything that you want me to, Confess all my sins like you want me to, There's one thing that I will say to you, I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else And I don't want to ball about like everybody else, And I don't want to live my life like everybody else, And I won't say that I feel fine like everybody else, 'Cause I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
Like everybody else, Like everybody else, Like everybody else, Like everybody else.
If you all want me to settle down, Slow up and stop all my running 'round, Do everything like you want me to, There's one thing that I will say to you, I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else. And I don't want to ball about like everybody else, And I don't want to live my life like everybody else, And I won't say that I feel fine like everybody else, 'Cause I'm not like everybody else, I'm not like everybody else.
Like everybody else (like everybody else), Like everybody else (like everybody else), Like everybody else (like everybody else),
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[FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] weekend rides
Here is the plan for weekend rides¡.
Saturday¡
One group leaving Maglev between 7am-7:05am for
slower rider to airport drink stand and then continue for longer rider.
Marcel and Christopher to lead. Must take 0630 ferry from Puxi
to Pudong..
Faster group leaving Maglev at 7:20am for regular
ride to drink stand including some intervals & sprints. Regular 0630
Puxi start time.
Will re-group at drink stand.
Sunday¡
Leaving Maglev at 7:20am for ride to airport drink
stand with option to return to town or to continue for longer rider to Di Shui
Lake. This ride will be at recovery pace.
One group leaving Maglev between 7am-7:05am for slower rider
to airport drink stand and then continue for longer rider. Marcel and Christopher
to lead. Must take 0630 ferry from Puxi to Pudong..
Faster group leaving Maglev at 7:20am for regular ride to
drink stand including some intervals & sprints. Regular 0630 Puxi
start time.
Will re-group at drink stand.
Sunday…
Leaving Maglev at 7:20am for ride to airport drink stand with
option to return to town or to continue for longer rider to Di Shui Lake. This
ride will be at recovery pace.
Subject: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] Old Lite-Speed
Hi All,
I have a old lite-speed titanium road bike, that I brought over to Shanghai in 2003. I now planning to go back to Singapore. The size is an average ( I am 1.77m tall)
Planning to sell it to someone who like titanium bike that is supposed to build-to-last.
My mileage is record low :-P due to the weather and my busy schedule.
Drop me a mail or sms/call me
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JK
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AND SHORTS
Chris, I'll have a size L jersey and a size L bib
short. I like "comfy"!
Subject:
[FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] ORDER YOUR 2006 FHL JERSEYS
AND SHORTS
friends-
the 2006 FHL racing kit is almost ready. you can review the designs
by navigating through FHL "Photos" on the side bar of the screen.
the cost will be around RMB300 for each jersey, and around RMB300
for the bib shorts. (NOTE: these costs already take into account
some sponsorship money, which has already lowered the cost.
depending on the total order number, the final costs may be even
less.)
if you would like to order jersey/bib shorts, pls do the following:
1
CONTACT ME directly by email (cchoa@...).
2
please let me know HOW MANY jerseys and how many bibshorts you want
to order.
3
please INDICATE THE SIZE you want to order. as a size reference and
for those of you who know me, i will order a size "M" jersey and
size "L" short.
4
please send me your message in ENGLISH OR PINYIN. (i cannot read
chinese - sorry!)
(NOTE: if your name is "JP" and would like to change the name of the
club, please order double the amount that you normally would.)
once we have received the shipment, we will send out another group
message. we will try to distribute the jerseys a single central
locations (for example Blue Frog on Tongren Lu/Puxi).
Subject: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] ORDER YOUR 2006 FHL JERSEYS AND SHORTS
friends-
the 2006 FHL racing kit is almost ready. you can review the designs by navigating through FHL "Photos" on the side bar of the screen.
the cost will be around RMB300 for each jersey, and around RMB300 for the bib shorts. (NOTE: these costs already take into account some sponsorship money, which has already lowered the cost. depending on the total order number, the final costs may be even less.)
if you would like to order jersey/bib shorts, pls do the following:
1 CONTACT ME directly by email (cchoa@...). 2 please let me know HOW MANY jerseys and how many bibshorts you want to order. 3 please INDICATE THE SIZE you want to order. as a size reference and for those of you who know me, i will order a size "M" jersey and size "L" short. 4 please send me your message in ENGLISH OR PINYIN. (i cannot read chinese - sorry!)
(NOTE: if your name is "JP" and would like to change the name of the club, please order double the amount that you normally would.)
once we have received the shipment, we will send out another group message. we will try to distribute the jerseys a single central locations (for example Blue Frog on Tongren Lu/Puxi).
Patrick, I recommend you change the words "not-so-fast" to "moderate
paced". Most of our "moderately paced" riders are the B racers,
which actually have a pretty good speed. Perhaps the "not so fast"
indicates something slower, which will lead to an even slower group
and the need to start a "D" group. There are other bicycling groups
in SH to cater to their needs.
Just my thoughts.
Allen
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>
>
> The mag listing must be short, so suggest no speeds/distances
included.
>
> I'll put my number as contact now - if inundated, will re-think!
>
> Last comments, please, on draft text:
>
> FHL Cycling Club
> Shanghai's premier road club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings.
Fast
> and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club
races.
> Visit Yahoo Group FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup or call 1370-168-
2037
> for details.
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>
Dear JP,
I've replied your message directly to your yahoo mail box, pls check
it out. Thanks.
Kaiyuan
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> Hello Patrick,
> Well said!
> Cheers, JP.
>
> PS: So Patrick was already our PR, our photographer, and now our
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> Thanks!
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> Patrick Cranley <patrickcranley@...> wrote:
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> The mag listing must be short, so suggest no speeds/distances
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>
> I'll put my number as contact now - if inundated, will re-think!
>
> Last comments, please, on draft text:
>
> FHL Cycling Club
> Shanghai's premier road club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings.
Fast
> and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club
races.
> Visit Yahoo Group FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup or call 1370-168-2037
> for details.
>
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The mag listing must be short, so suggest no speeds/distances included.
I'll put my number as contact now - if inundated, will re-think!
Last comments, please, on draft text:
FHL Cycling Club Shanghai's premier road club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings. Fast and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club races. Visit Yahoo Group FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup or call 1370-168-2037 for details.
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Subject: Re: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] Re: Belgium Jersey
The new Belgian National Team Yersey and bib is the set that I was wearing on April TT and May 20. It is blue with Belgian colors and some Belgian Team Sponsors: Lotto, Davitamon, VTM. They sell it in Belgium in the Decathlon sports stores. I can bring a few sets from Belgium beginning of August if you want. Just let me know.
Best Regards,
Herman Verhoeven
Bayer Integrated Site Shanghai
Block F3, Muhua Road, Shanghai Chemical Industry Park
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The mag listing must be short, so suggest no speeds/distances included.
I'll put my number as contact now - if inundated, will re-think!
Last comments, please, on draft text:
FHL Cycling Club
Shanghai's premier road club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings. Fast
and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club races.
Visit Yahoo Group FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup or call 1370-168-2037
for details.
Cheers,
Patrick
Having a second group is a good idea as slower riders like myself get
dropped all too quickly after we have reached the maglev station (just
a little thanks to those who in the past had the patiance to wait for
me when I had one of my numerous punctures) Meeting earlier at Maglev
is always an option but finding the maglev station from the ferry is a
little difficult. Is their any chance of putting a little map on this
web page. I got terribly lost at Pudong airport last Saturday as I was
riding on my own. I have yet to find the drinks stand that everybody
talks about. Actually found myself at departures where I decided that
a mixture of buses, taxis and bikes can give you a real kick when the
pass you with 60-70 mph.
Very much looking forward to Saturday!
Simon F
The new Belgian National Team Yersey
and bib is the set that I was wearing on April TT and May 20.
It is blue with Belgian colors and some
Belgian Team Sponsors: Lotto, Davitamon, VTM.
They sell it in Belgium in the Decathlon
sports stores.
I can bring a few sets from Belgium
beginning of August if you want.
Just let me know.
Best Regards,
Herman Verhoeven
Bayer Integrated Site Shanghai
Block F3, Muhua Road, Shanghai
Chemical Industry Park
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> Dear JP:
>
> My friend want to buy a German or Belgium national flag color jersey
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some other useful information?
> Thank you.
>
> Zou Cheng
>
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> Thank you.
>
> Zou Cheng
>
My friend want to buy a German or Belgium national flag color jersey just like you wearing in the May20 match.Can you tell where to buy or some other useful information?
Hi there. I am interested in joining up for a weekend ride. I live wayout in hongqiao. Anybody know or tried to take your road bike onto the the subway. I don't think I am up for a 160km ride just yet.
regards
Yes. The slower group leaves Maglev at
7am and the faster group will leave Maglev around 7:20. So, we should catch
you around the big bridge on Long Dong
Ave (before the A30).
Yes, we’ll wave hi. Maybe even
draft you for awhile to catch our breath J.
Let’s identify the co-leaders and
then I’ll update the FHL website for next weekend’s rides.
-Mark
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[mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke Zhang (luzhan) Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:50
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Mark,
It will be good to have backups :-)
I'll lead the slower-group this Saturday
and to see if there's anybody willing to lead.
Slower-group should always start 15
minutes ahead, right? Don't forget to say hi if you faster guys catches up.
-- Regards, Luke
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Mark Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:20
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CityWeekend listing for FHL
Luke-
Fantastic. Thanks.
Will you be so kind as to talk to some of
the other riders in the slower-group and get 1-2 others to volunteer as
co-leaders. It would be good to have backup due to travel, etc and one of
the co-leaders needs to be there for every ride.
Having a formal slower-group will help to
further develop FHL rides. Thanks again.
-Mark
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Mark,
I can commit to lead one of the weekend
riding.
Regards, Luke ___________________________________________________
Luke Zhang
Software Engineer, ChinaR&DCenter,
Cisco Systems
14th floor, Block C, Keji Building, 900 Yishan Lu, Caohejing Hi-Tech Park,
Shanghai, P.R.C, 200233
Phone : +86 (21) 2405 7082 Mobile: +86 139
1001 4532
Email : luzhan@... ___________________________________________________
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Luke-
Thanks for the offer.
Based on Herman’s response, it does
not work to have him lead the slower-group. He increases his speed as
soon as the fast-group catches him.
Would you and 1-2 other riders from the
slower-group be willing to volunteer to officially lead this group? It
would be good if FHL can announce 2 groups and let people know that if they
show-up for the slower group that there will actually be someone to lead them
and to ride with.
-Mark
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Hi Mark,
I can be the person who lead the slower
riders from Mag-lev to join Herman if we need one.
Regards, Luke ___________________________________________________
Luke Zhang
Software Engineer, ChinaR&DCenter,
Cisco Systems
14th floor, Block C, Keji Building, 900 Yishan Lu, Caohejing Hi-Tech Park, Shanghai,
P.R.C, 200233
Phone : +86 (21) 2405 7082 Mobile: +86 139
1001 4532
Email : luzhan@... ___________________________________________________
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12:26 PM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:
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Herman and all-
Are you and Anne willing to ride to Maglev
and meet with all other slower-riders and lead them from Mag-lev departing at
7am or so??? Or someone needs to lead them from Mag-lev to join you as
they pass Tomson at 0715. And it
means Puxi slower-riders need to take an earlier ferry then the fast-riders if
they want to meet you at Mag-lev at 7am. I think this is a challenge.
And, this will be even more challenging once we change start time from 0630 to
0600 for the summer for the Puxi fast-riders.
If you want to lead, then we could officially form a slower-group with you as leader.
If not, then you are not really
non-official B group. You are more like “2 lone riders with your
own warm-up program” J. And then, we still
need to find someone to lead the slower-group to make it official and regular.
-Mark
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Actually Anne and I are the
non official B group! We
always leave from Tomson Main Gate (GermanCenter) at 7.15 am,
approximately the same time as the A group leaves from Magalev. This gives us a
5+ minutes handicap and allows us to slowly warm up on Long Dong (very
important for elderly people). HR
below TH (threshold) -35. Along
the Express way we then ride an extensive endurance pace (TH -30 to TH-20) for
thorough warming up with a subsequent recovery between express way and sea
shore. By
doing so we are more than ready to follow the intensive A group pace when they
catch us. Now
you know the secret.
Conclusion,
during the part until the sea shore everybody (all normal healthy people with a
bit of cycling km in the legs) should be able to follow. They
can either continue along the sea shore to the drink stand or turn north and go
back for shorter distance.
Herman
Jean-Pierre Dawance
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Dear Marcel,
I agree with you but to the best of my
knowledge, FHL does not have a group B as such yet! I have NOTHING against a
group B, but this is simply not yet existing.
So either we do not mention it because it is
not yet in place or we officially create a group B (for example starting from
Maglew 15' earlier -so we can join and chat at the drink stop- the leaders
stopping for example at the end of LongDong and at the end of the express way
to wait for the latest and regroup before resuming in peloton).
Cheers, JP.
marcel.heim@... wrote: JP,
I agree with you that competitive Cycling is the goal. To
make this clear in the listing is also OK. I am only of the opinion that there
should be a chance for newcomers to get started. That¡¯s all. And in fact
that seems to be the case since there are already very many riders with a broad
range of capabilities.
Marcel
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Collins
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 22:17
To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for
FHL
Mark,
Thanks for having sympathy for the fat slow guys like myself. On the
times I have been out for a ride, I get dropped by the group pretty quickly.
I am usually am able to find another rider along the way that has been
able to help out with the route.
It seems that on the way home there has always a group of slower riders to come
back with so that's quite nice.
25-30 seems like a good suggestion for the slow group as it seems more inviting
for the slower riders than 28 to 34.
Regards,
Josh
On 5/23/06, Griffin, Mark <mark.griffin@...> wrote: I'm ok to reduce speed on the slower group but not the
faster¡ª well maybe a little reduction would be OK. We have had a
string of new riders join us that get dropped 5km after the maglev and we never
see them again. I feel bad for them. I think we need to let people
know that FHL-fast group is a serious road-ride group. The issue becomes,
we need to have someone lead the slower group so new riders know who they
should be following. Just my opinion. Let's see what others think.
We all know that your recovery speed is around 34 kph but
don't scare the people away with this information. Fast group should be 30-40
(so recovery for us younger riders is also possible) and the slow one should be
25-30.
Great idea to list FHL on CityWeekend. Thanks for taking the initiative.
I do not want my mobile phone or e-mail to be listed. I would prefer they
access the web-site and join the club. But if others want to be listed as
contact-- e-mail or mobile, that would be great. Any takers for this
role???
Draft text:
Flying Hairy Legs Cycling Club
FHL, Shanghai's
premier road cycling club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun
mornings. Fast (34-40kph avg) and not-so-fast (28-34kph avg) groups ride
65-120km; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club races. Contact FHL
website: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup/
for details.
CityWeekend would like to list FHL in their magazine (biweekly).
There are several bike clubs listed already: Shanghai Bike Club
(Bohdi), SISU Cycling Group, Wolf's Mountain Bike Club.
Here is some draft text - comments welcome; most important is correct
contact info - Mark and Kaiyuan, are you guys OK as primary contacts?
Can we list an email contact too?
Flying Hairy Legs Cycling Club
FHL, Shanghai's
premier road cycling club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun
mornings. Fast and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also
organizes club races. Contact Mark (1391-637-3263) or Wang (XXXX).
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I'll lead the slower-group this Saturday and to see if there's anybody willing to lead.
Slower-group should always start 15 minutes ahead, right? Don't forget to say hi if you faster guys catches up.
-- Regards, Luke
From: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Griffin, Mark Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:20 PM To: FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Luke-
Fantastic. Thanks.
Will you be so kind as to talk to some of the other riders in the slower-group and get 1-2 others to volunteer as co-leaders. It would be good to have backup due to travel, etc and one of the co-leaders needs to be there for every ride.
Having a formal slower-group will help to further develop FHL rides. Thanks again.
-Mark
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke Zhang (luzhan) Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:59 PM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Mark,
I can commit to lead one of the weekend riding.
Regards, Luke ___________________________________________________ Luke Zhang Software Engineer, ChinaR&DCenter, Cisco Systems 14th floor, Block C, Keji Building, 900 Yishan Lu, Caohejing Hi-Tech Park, Shanghai, P.R.C, 200233 Phone : +86 (21) 2405 7082 Mobile: +86 139 1001 4532 Email : luzhan@... ___________________________________________________
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Griffin, Mark Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:54 PM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Luke-
Thanks for the offer.
Based on Herman’s response, it does not work to have him lead the slower-group. He increases his speed as soon as the fast-group catches him.
Would you and 1-2 other riders from the slower-group be willing to volunteer to officially lead this group? It would be good if FHL can announce 2 groups and let people know that if they show-up for the slower group that there will actually be someone to lead them and to ride with.
-Mark
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke Zhang (luzhan) Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:59 PM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Hi Mark,
I can be the person who lead the slower riders from Mag-lev to join Herman if we need one.
Regards, Luke ___________________________________________________ Luke Zhang Software Engineer, ChinaR&DCenter, Cisco Systems 14th floor, Block C, Keji Building, 900 Yishan Lu, Caohejing Hi-Tech Park, Shanghai, P.R.C, 200233 Phone : +86 (21) 2405 7082 Mobile: +86 139 1001 4532 Email : luzhan@... ___________________________________________________
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Griffin, Mark Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:26 PM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Herman and all-
Are you and Anne willing to ride to Maglev and meet with all other slower-riders and lead them from Mag-lev departing at 7am or so??? Or someone needs to lead them from Mag-lev to join you as they pass Tomson at 0715. And it means Puxi slower-riders need to take an earlier ferry then the fast-riders if they want to meet you at Mag-lev at 7am. I think this is a challenge. And, this will be even more challenging once we change start time from 0630 to 0600 for the summer for the Puxi fast-riders.
If you want to lead, then we could officially form a slower-group with you as leader.
If not, then you are not really non-official B group. You are more like “2 lone riders with your own warm-up program” J. And then, we still need to find someone to lead the slower-group to make it official and regular.
-Mark
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of herman.verhoeven@... Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:41 AM To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Actually Anne and I are the non official B group! We always leave from Tomson Main Gate (GermanCenter) at 7.15 am, approximately the same time as the A group leaves from Magalev. This gives us a 5+ minutes handicap and allows us to slowly warm up on Long Dong (very important for elderly people). HR below TH (threshold) -35. Along the Express way we then ride an extensive endurance pace (TH -30 to TH-20) for thorough warming up with a subsequent recovery between express way and sea shore. By doing so we are more than ready to follow the intensive A group pace when they catch us. Now you know the secret.
Conclusion, during the part until the sea shore everybody (all normal healthy people with a bit of cycling km in the legs) should be able to follow. They can either continue along the sea shore to the drink stand or turn north and go back for shorter distance.
Herman
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Dear Marcel,
I agree with you but to the best of my knowledge, FHL does not have a group B as such yet! I have NOTHING against a group B, but this is simply not yet existing.
So either we do not mention it because it is not yet in place or we officially create a group B (for example starting from Maglew 15' earlier -so we can join and chat at the drink stop- the leaders stopping for example at the end of LongDong and at the end of the express way to wait for the latest and regroup before resuming in peloton).
Cheers, JP.
marcel.heim@... wrote: JP,
I agree with you that competitive Cycling is the goal. To make this clear in the listing is also OK. I am only of the opinion that there should be a chance for newcomers to get started. That¡¯s all. And in fact that seems to be the case since there are already very many riders with a broad range of capabilities.
Marcel
From:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Collins Sent: Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 22:17 To:FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup] CityWeekend listing for FHL
Mark,
Thanks for having sympathy for the fat slow guys like myself. On the times I have been out for a ride, I get dropped by the group pretty quickly. I am usually am able to find another rider along the way that has been able to help out with the route.
It seems that on the way home there has always a group of slower riders to come back with so that's quite nice.
25-30 seems like a good suggestion for the slow group as it seems more inviting for the slower riders than 28 to 34.
Regards, Josh
On 5/23/06, Griffin, Mark <mark.griffin@...> wrote: I'm ok to reduce speed on the slower group but not the faster¡ª well maybe a little reduction would be OK. We have had a string of new riders join us that get dropped 5km after the maglev and we never see them again. I feel bad for them. I think we need to let people know that FHL-fast group is a serious road-ride group. The issue becomes, we need to have someone lead the slower group so new riders know who they should be following. Just my opinion. Let's see what others think.
We all know that your recovery speed is around 34 kph but don't scare the people away with this information. Fast group should be 30-40 (so recovery for us younger riders is also possible) and the slow one should be 25-30.
Great idea to list FHL on CityWeekend. Thanks for taking the initiative.
I do not want my mobile phone or e-mail to be listed. I would prefer they access the web-site and join the club. But if others want to be listed as contact-- e-mail or mobile, that would be great. Any takers for this role???
Draft text: Flying Hairy Legs Cycling Club FHL, Shanghai's premier road cycling club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings. Fast (34-40kph avg) and not-so-fast (28-34kph avg) groups ride 65-120km; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club races. Contact FHL website: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingHairyLegsCyclingGroup/ for details.
CityWeekend would like to list FHL in their magazine (biweekly). There are several bike clubs listed already: Shanghai Bike Club (Bohdi), SISU Cycling Group, Wolf's Mountain Bike Club.
Here is some draft text - comments welcome; most important is correct contact info - Mark and Kaiyuan, are you guys OK as primary contacts? Can we list an email contact too?
Flying Hairy Legs Cycling Club FHL, Shanghai's premier road cycling club, rides Tues-Thurs-Sat-Sun mornings. Fast and not-so-fast groups; Puxi and Pudong. Also organizes club races. Contact Mark (1391-637-3263) or Wang (XXXX).
The information contained in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s) and may be confidential, proprietary, and/or legally privileged. Inadvertent disclosure of this message does not constitute a waiver of any privilege. If you receive this message in error, please do not directly or indirectly use, print, copy, forward, or disclose any part of this message. Please also delete this e-mail and all copies and notify the sender. Thank you.