I use 16/27 on most courses, 16/26 on longer ones. You'll do more than 70 on
a decent straightaway.

-Vernon



on 11/30/04 7:46 AM, teamtiger21@... at teamtiger21@... wrote:

>
> Development of the kart for my son and his best friend is moving right
> along. It is time to cut chain and determine the range of gear combinations.
> The
> list has mentioned that most solo applications are in the 70 to 75 mph range.
> With a 12,500 rpm limit would one start with a 16/28 combination equaling
> 70.13mph? Is solo unique in the use of larger drive gears vs sprint racing?
> Your
> sharing your experience is appreciated. It is sort of the measure twice cut
> once  theory.
>
> Barry Schonberger
> TEAM TIGER
> 9017  Farmington Drive
> Evansville, IN 47712
> (812)985-9592 Home
> (812)465-7021  Fax
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Development of the kart for my son and his best friend is moving right
along. It is time to cut chain and determine the range of gear combinations. The
list has mentioned that most solo applications are in the 70 to 75 mph range.
With a 12,500 rpm limit would one start with a 16/28 combination equaling
70.13mph? Is solo unique in the use of larger drive gears vs sprint racing? Your
sharing your experience is appreciated. It is sort of the measure twice cut
once  theory.

Barry Schonberger
TEAM TIGER
9017  Farmington Drive
Evansville, IN 47712
(812)985-9592 Home
(812)465-7021  Fax
TeamTiger21@...



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Jason:

You can't go wrong with the big three- Birel, CRG and Tony Kart. All three
are pretty close to each other and have done well in autocross. Others I
have seen do well are Renspeed, MBA, Biesse, Trackmagic, Italkart, Energy.
Some newer brands you might check out are Kosmic, GP, Vankart, Rosso Korsa,
Intrepid, Maranello.

If you buy a used one, look for one that's no more than about 3 years old,
unless you are sure of it's history. Kart frames do wear out over time.
Prices for a used 125 vary from $3500 to $5000 depending on what you are
buying. New ones are around $8-10k. Chassis are around $4k new and fully
built motors are about $4k to $5k.

Honda is the most popular engine for the class, mostly because there are so
many out there. You will probably want a blueprinted motor that uses an RS
piston and ring. You'll have to replace an RS ring every 3 hours, the piston
every 6, and the crank every 15-20 hours. Stock, the top end can go at least
twice as long. How many hours will you run? I ran mine with two drivers last
year. We did about 20 events and 4 or 5 track days. Total run time was 11
hours.

Programmable ignition is legal for next year, but you will have to meet the
minimum weight of 415 pounds I believe. Without the P.I. the weight is 385.
If you weigh over 200 pounds it's an easy choice because you will be close
to 415 anyway. P.I. ignitions are more prone to problems with sticking your
piston.



-Vernon




on 11/28/04 6:20 PM, jasontimothycasey at jasontimothycasey@... wrote:

>
>
>
> I am wanting to get into Kart racing and would like to know what I
> should look for in a kart.  I am not looking to be competitive my
> first year but just looking for some seat time. After that if I
> still like it or if I'm any good I would like to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the input!!
>
> Jason
>
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Jason:

Do you mean wheel to wheel or autocross?

-Vernon





on 11/28/04 6:20 PM, jasontimothycasey at jasontimothycasey@... wrote:

>
>
>
> I am wanting to get into Kart racing and would like to know what I
> should look for in a kart.  I am not looking to be competitive my
> first year but just looking for some seat time. After that if I
> still like it or if I'm any good I would like to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the input!!
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
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>

I am wanting to get into Kart racing and would like to know what I
should look for in a kart.  I am not looking to be competitive my
first year but just looking for some seat time. After that if I
still like it or if I'm any good I would like to upgrade.

Thanks for the input!!

Jason

"Peter Mottaz" <mph_16@h...> wrote:

> To Paul and Tom:
> Thanks alot, (the 125 pax went up).

Don't just thank them.  CenDiv's own Dan Cyr runs in the same region
with Mr. Ruth (Chicago).  Unfortunately that region tends to run on
some small lots with slalom heavy courses.  Really makes a kart look
good on an index.


-LM
#196 F125

To Paul and Tom:

Thanks alot, (the 125 pax went up).

;-)

Pete

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:36:38 -0600
From: Mark Hirt <mark.hirt@...>
Subject: 2005 PAX/RTP Index - Released

The 2005 PAX/RTP Index is now online.

The new numbers and archives dating back to 1994 can be found at
http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/

- --

Regards,

Mark Hirt
webmaster@...
http://www.scca-chicago.com

Was in the revised rules set to take effect Jan 1.

No, the restriction on carb size for ICC remains in place!
Restriction for venturi size is lifted on moto based engines only.

Alan

In a message dated 11/24/2004 12:40:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kevin.wolfskill@... writes:

Cool!  Did I miss that in a Fast Track or something?  Also, I  would
assume that means that an ICC motor can be run with a carb larger  than
30mm?






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Cool!  Did I miss that in a Fast Track or something?  Also, I would
assume that means that an ICC motor can be run with a carb larger than
30mm?

Kevin Wolfskill
Software Engineer
Clear Technology Inc.
11030 Circle Point Road
Westminster, CO 80020
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-----Original Message-----
From: pbpied@... [mailto:pbpied@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:44 AM
To: f125@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [F125] speaking of programmable ignitions......




Kevin and everyone:

That rule is only for the remainder of 2004.  Effective Jan 1, there  is
no
longer
a restriction on venturi size in F125!  The KAC determined that size  is
self- policing.  For a 125, going larger than 39 creates runability
problems...

Alan

In a message dated 11/24/2004 11:30:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kevin.wolfskill@... writes:

Hi  Vic,

Can't speak to the ignition, but the carb is illegal.  The  rules say
38mm maximum, and thus, you are  illegal.







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Kevin and everyone:

That rule is only for the remainder of 2004.  Effective Jan 1, there  is no
longer
a restriction on venturi size in F125!  The KAC determined that size  is self-
policing.  For a 125, going larger than 39 creates runability  problems...

Alan

In a message dated 11/24/2004 11:30:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kevin.wolfskill@... writes:

Hi  Vic,

Can't speak to the ignition, but the carb is illegal.  The  rules say
38mm maximum, and thus, you are  illegal.







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Vic,

I've been running an older Banke motor with a stock ignition, just static
advance. It seems to run fine. As far as your carb goes I was told over and
over that my carb was a 38.6 and was illegal. I finally measured the ID of
the carb with calipers and it turned out to be exactly 38.0. It's worth
checking.

Dale Kirstein

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Madrid [mailto:madridvb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:14 PM
To: F125@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [F125] speaking of programmable ignitions......




what's the consensus on a PI vs. OEM CDI?  Is it worth the 30 lb
penalty?  I currently have a Banke PI, and locally I've run against
one other kart that ran approximately 20-25 lbs less (intentionally
done).  But, I intend to run some National Tour and Pro
events "totally legal" next year.

The problem is, I have no confidence in my ability to swap out my CDI
and stator and get the motor in tune.  I actually have a '99 CDI and
stator in hand, but I'm having second thoughts.  Also, I've been told
that I have a 39mm carb.  I do not have a 38mm carb and would have to
buy one.

so.....

1) should I swap ignitions or add 30 lbs?
2) is my carb legal?  and if it is, and I swap ignitions, will I be
giving up any hp having the larger carb with the OEM ignition curve?
3) is the swap not as hard as I'm thinking it is?  (I'm worried about
getting the timing right, not the disassembly/assembly part)

Thanks for any (honest) advice ;) hehehe

Vic







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Hi Vic,

Can't speak to the ignition, but the carb is illegal.  The rules say
38mm maximum, and thus, you are illegal.

Kevin Wolfskill
Software Engineer
Clear Technology Inc.
11030 Circle Point Road
Westminster, CO 80020
www.clear-technology.com

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(303) 583 4100 - office
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Madrid [mailto:madridvb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:14 PM
To: F125@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [F125] speaking of programmable ignitions......




what's the consensus on a PI vs. OEM CDI?  Is it worth the 30 lb
penalty?  I currently have a Banke PI, and locally I've run against
one other kart that ran approximately 20-25 lbs less (intentionally
done).  But, I intend to run some National Tour and Pro
events "totally legal" next year.

The problem is, I have no confidence in my ability to swap out my CDI
and stator and get the motor in tune.  I actually have a '99 CDI and
stator in hand, but I'm having second thoughts.  Also, I've been told
that I have a 39mm carb.  I do not have a 38mm carb and would have to
buy one.

so.....

1) should I swap ignitions or add 30 lbs?
2) is my carb legal?  and if it is, and I swap ignitions, will I be
giving up any hp having the larger carb with the OEM ignition curve?
3) is the swap not as hard as I'm thinking it is?  (I'm worried about
getting the timing right, not the disassembly/assembly part)

Thanks for any (honest) advice ;) hehehe

Vic







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what's the consensus on a PI vs. OEM CDI?  Is it worth the 30 lb
penalty?  I currently have a Banke PI, and locally I've run against
one other kart that ran approximately 20-25 lbs less (intentionally
done).  But, I intend to run some National Tour and Pro
events "totally legal" next year.

The problem is, I have no confidence in my ability to swap out my CDI
and stator and get the motor in tune.  I actually have a '99 CDI and
stator in hand, but I'm having second thoughts.  Also, I've been told
that I have a 39mm carb.  I do not have a 38mm carb and would have to
buy one.

so.....

1) should I swap ignitions or add 30 lbs?
2) is my carb legal?  and if it is, and I swap ignitions, will I be
giving up any hp having the larger carb with the OEM ignition curve?
3) is the swap not as hard as I'm thinking it is?  (I'm worried about
getting the timing right, not the disassembly/assembly part)

Thanks for any (honest) advice ;) hehehe

Vic

Just a practice session.

Enjoy:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/
wNjU3NzcxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

AJ

The rules do not require a kill switch. It is optional, which if added,
"must function only to kill the engine."

Pete

>From: "Abraham Jones" <ajones24@...>
>To: F125@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [F125] kill switch
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:50:32 -0000
>
>
>My kart ('00 Trackmagic) doesn't have a kill switch.  I noticed
>the SCCA rules require one.  Should I try and install a kill switch?
>The kart came with a switch on the return line from the radiator
>behind the seat that is labeled as a kill switch (engine run/off) but
>it controls a couple of leads that go to a Vortex ignition box.  That
>brings another question to mind.
>
>What is the switch controlling on the ignition box?  I assume the
>Vortex box has some number of different ignition curves.  How are the
>various curves selected?  Are their curves suited for auto-x?  The
>box is for a '00 Honda.  Does this constitute a programmable
>ignition?  Isn't that illegal too?
>
>
>

My kart ('00 Trackmagic) doesn't have a kill switch.  I noticed
the SCCA rules require one.  Should I try and install a kill switch?
The kart came with a switch on the return line from the radiator
behind the seat that is labeled as a kill switch (engine run/off) but
it controls a couple of leads that go to a Vortex ignition box.  That
brings another question to mind.

What is the switch controlling on the ignition box?  I assume the
Vortex box has some number of different ignition curves.  How are the
various curves selected?  Are their curves suited for auto-x?  The
box is for a '00 Honda.  Does this constitute a programmable
ignition?  Isn't that illegal too?

Hey Dave,

This has you written all over it.

You can view this ad at the following URL:

http://www.kartingauction.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?session_key=&s\
ession_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=3510&query\
=retrieval

Does swearing count as an action? That would make it 75.

-Vernon


on 11/17/04 3:43 PM, Larry MacLeod at serca96@... wrote:

>
>
> --- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Darren Madams" <darren@m...> wrote:
>
>> I would say a shifter kart at an autocross would be somewhat less
>> than that, but for a lot shorter time period
>
> I figured on most 50 second course I probably go through about 40 gear
> changes, can't speak for this year's course though.  How many steering
> inputs on a National solo course?   30?  That's 70 already, and then
> there's those brakes.  Maybe 5 or 6 times. (?)
>
> Just some guesses.
>
>
> Lefty Funk
> #196 F125
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--- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Darren Madams" <darren@m...> wrote:

> I would say a shifter kart at an autocross would be somewhat less
> than that, but for a lot shorter time period

I figured on most 50 second course I probably go through about 40 gear
changes, can't speak for this year's course though.  How many steering
inputs on a National solo course?   30?  That's 70 already, and then
there's those brakes.  Maybe 5 or 6 times. (?)

Just some guesses.


Lefty Funk
#196 F125

This was Keith Code's comments about racing a sportbike on Willow
Springs:

The actions of riding one lap of a complex circuit with say 13
corners, like our favorite training track, the Streets of Willow
Springs, breaks down something like this:

Throttle position changes (including throttle blips) 50
Steering inputs 22
Gear changes 20
Clutch actions (downshifts only) 10
Front brake pulls and releases 14
---
Total 116

From http://www.superbikeschool.com/bbs/index.php?
act=ST&f=2&t=75&s=69d53a815a68f117df355f581e6fad42



I would say a shifter kart at an autocross would be somewhat less
than that, but for a lot shorter time period (no throttle blips, no
clutch, but more actions in a slalom and more downshifts into a
hairpin, etc.).  Anyone care to guess (or calculate), say for this
years Nationals courses?

   --Darren

Hello everyone, my name is Gunnar.  Some of you know me from So.Cal.
auto-cross, and to the rest of you I wish a big "Hello!" 1 year of
racing shifters @ the auto-cross and I am just now finding my way to
this board! Silly me  ;)

Here is my question this, if you wanted to get started in shifter
racing, would you buy this kart?  ebay item number 4501418581

I think I might go and look at it. Money is kind of tight at my
house, but I think Rick might want me out of his kart come next
season.  Having been bitten by the shifter bug, I want one of my own!

So what do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.

Gunnar

the crg should be a metric pattern.  Of course, you'll need need hubs for the
40mm axle. Shockwave karting has nice stuff, reasonably priced
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Eric Clements
   To: f125@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:12 PM
   Subject: [F125] Wheels/hubs/axles


   My Shifter came with a bent axle (35mm) and 6" wheels.

   So, if I'm replacing parts anyway, and I have a 40 mm axle (extra, stiffer one
that came with the kids' kart)...I'm thinking I'll get 5" wheels so I can use
the kids two sets of YHAs.  Is there a standard or much more common hub pattern,
or should I just make the f125 kart match the kids' kart (which is a CRG
Santana)?

   EC







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My Shifter came with a bent axle (35mm) and 6" wheels.

So, if I'm replacing parts anyway, and I have a 40 mm axle (extra, stiffer one
that came with the kids' kart)...I'm thinking I'll get 5" wheels so I can use
the kids two sets of YHAs.  Is there a standard or much more common hub pattern,
or should I just make the f125 kart match the kids' kart (which is a CRG
Santana)?

EC







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If you want to play with a shifter on a track, you have got to try Moran. Its
about 25 miles east of Adams, and its a fantastic track! Designed by racers,
Rocky Moran and his son Rocky Jr.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Eric Nelson
   To: F125@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:14 PM
   Subject: [F125] Re: Cal Speedway Kart Track



   Eric,

        It is my understanding that the "kart track" at Cal Speedway is
   for exclusive use by Rob Niles / Karting Ventures (the link Larry
   provided) and will not be opening to the public anytime soon, if
   ever - but don't quote me on it.  Rob was searching for quite a
   while for a permanent location to house his fleet and finally worked
   a deal with the Speedway, and it was my understanding that the
   pseudo-track was born from that.
        If you're looking for a track that's close, Adams (Riverside)
   really isn't much further from you than Cal Speedway, and it's a
   REAL track so you'll probably enjoy it a lot more.  There's also an
   oval at Rialto Airport, but have Mari make sure your life insurance
   policy is current before you take a shifter kart there.

   Take care,

   -Eric




   --- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Clements" <ewc4@c...> wrote:
   > At this point I like Cal speedways track because it's 12 miles
   from home and I just need to learn to drive a kart. Maybe when (if?)
   I get competitive with the kart I'll care if the course is good or
   not.
   >
   > A Gold Star goes to Larry... his CR 125 factory service manual
   showed up in my mailbox this weekend : )
   >
   > EC
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Larry Andrews
   >   http://www.ekrl.com/
   >
   >   There's a link to the guy that appears to have exclusive license
   to
   >   put on kart events there.  I don't know squat about it except
   that
   >   they had their first event there a couple weeks back and people
   >   seemed to like it.
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Speed Ventures is managing the track. LAKC is moving to Fontana as their new
home track, since they can't afford Irwindale. If you wnat to race, LAKC is a
nice club to try it with, they're very low key and pretty well organized
----- Original Message -----
   From: Rick Brown
   To: F125@yahoogroups.com ; Eric Nelson
   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:21 PM
   Subject: Re: [F125] Re: Cal Speedway Kart Track


   According to the Speed Ventures site, there are practice sessions available
   for anyone to bring in their own kart for $40.  But only on limited days,
   not virtually any time there's no race going on like the other tracks.  It
   also appears that LAKC is going to use it, but not clear if that's separate
   from Speed Ventures.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Eric Nelson" <southern_california@...>
   To: <F125@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:14 PM
   Subject: [F125] Re: Cal Speedway Kart Track


   >
   >
   > Eric,
   >
   >      It is my understanding that the "kart track" at Cal Speedway is
   > for exclusive use by Rob Niles / Karting Ventures (the link Larry
   > provided) and will not be opening to the public anytime soon, if
   > ever - but don't quote me on it.  Rob was searching for quite a
   > while for a permanent location to house his fleet and finally worked
   > a deal with the Speedway, and it was my understanding that the
   > pseudo-track was born from that.
   >      If you're looking for a track that's close, Adams (Riverside)
   > really isn't much further from you than Cal Speedway, and it's a
   > REAL track so you'll probably enjoy it a lot more.  There's also an
   > oval at Rialto Airport, but have Mari make sure your life insurance
   > policy is current before you take a shifter kart there.
   >
   > Take care,
   >
   > -Eric
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > --- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Clements" <ewc4@c...> wrote:
   > > At this point I like Cal speedways track because it's 12 miles
   > from home and I just need to learn to drive a kart. Maybe when (if?)
   > I get competitive with the kart I'll care if the course is good or
   > not.
   > >
   > > A Gold Star goes to Larry... his CR 125 factory service manual
   > showed up in my mailbox this weekend : )
   > >
   > > EC
   > >   ----- Original Message -----
   > >   From: Larry Andrews
   > >   http://www.ekrl.com/
   > >
   > >   There's a link to the guy that appears to have exclusive license
   > to
   > >   put on kart events there.  I don't know squat about it except
   > that
   > >   they had their first event there a couple weeks back and people
   > >   seemed to like it.
   > >
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Man's fertile imagination never ceases to amaze me...



>From: John Bartlebaugh <jb-eng@...>
>Reply-To: jb-eng@...
>To: Alan Sheidler <pbpied@...>
>CC: "f125@yahoogroups.com" <f125@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [F125] Pushing the limits
>Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:58:10 -0600
>
>     Do you want to see a "far out" project?  Check this out......jb
>http://www.bigbikeriders.com/48cyl.htm
>ps: don't miss the video

According to the Speed Ventures site, there are practice sessions available
for anyone to bring in their own kart for $40.  But only on limited days,
not virtually any time there's no race going on like the other tracks.  It
also appears that LAKC is going to use it, but not clear if that's separate
from Speed Ventures.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Nelson" <southern_california@...>
To: <F125@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: [F125] Re: Cal Speedway Kart Track


>
>
> Eric,
>
>      It is my understanding that the "kart track" at Cal Speedway is
> for exclusive use by Rob Niles / Karting Ventures (the link Larry
> provided) and will not be opening to the public anytime soon, if
> ever - but don't quote me on it.  Rob was searching for quite a
> while for a permanent location to house his fleet and finally worked
> a deal with the Speedway, and it was my understanding that the
> pseudo-track was born from that.
>      If you're looking for a track that's close, Adams (Riverside)
> really isn't much further from you than Cal Speedway, and it's a
> REAL track so you'll probably enjoy it a lot more.  There's also an
> oval at Rialto Airport, but have Mari make sure your life insurance
> policy is current before you take a shifter kart there.
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> --- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Clements" <ewc4@c...> wrote:
> > At this point I like Cal speedways track because it's 12 miles
> from home and I just need to learn to drive a kart. Maybe when (if?)
> I get competitive with the kart I'll care if the course is good or
> not.
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> > A Gold Star goes to Larry... his CR 125 factory service manual
> showed up in my mailbox this weekend : )
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> > EC
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Larry Andrews
> >   http://www.ekrl.com/
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> >   There's a link to the guy that appears to have exclusive license
> to
> >   put on kart events there.  I don't know squat about it except
> that
> >   they had their first event there a couple weeks back and people
> >   seemed to like it.
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Do you want to see a "far out" project?  Check this out......jb
http://www.bigbikeriders.com/48cyl.htm
ps: don't miss the video

Eric,

      It is my understanding that the "kart track" at Cal Speedway is
for exclusive use by Rob Niles / Karting Ventures (the link Larry
provided) and will not be opening to the public anytime soon, if
ever - but don't quote me on it.  Rob was searching for quite a
while for a permanent location to house his fleet and finally worked
a deal with the Speedway, and it was my understanding that the
pseudo-track was born from that.
      If you're looking for a track that's close, Adams (Riverside)
really isn't much further from you than Cal Speedway, and it's a
REAL track so you'll probably enjoy it a lot more.  There's also an
oval at Rialto Airport, but have Mari make sure your life insurance
policy is current before you take a shifter kart there.

Take care,

-Eric




--- In F125@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Clements" <ewc4@c...> wrote:
> At this point I like Cal speedways track because it's 12 miles
from home and I just need to learn to drive a kart. Maybe when (if?)
I get competitive with the kart I'll care if the course is good or
not.
>
> A Gold Star goes to Larry... his CR 125 factory service manual
showed up in my mailbox this weekend : )
>
> EC
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Larry Andrews
>   http://www.ekrl.com/
>
>   There's a link to the guy that appears to have exclusive license
to
>   put on kart events there.  I don't know squat about it except
that
>   they had their first event there a couple weeks back and people
>   seemed to like it.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

At this point I like Cal speedways track because it's 12 miles from home and I
just need to learn to drive a kart. Maybe when (if?) I get competitive with the
kart I'll care if the course is good or not.

A Gold Star goes to Larry... his CR 125 factory service manual showed up in my
mailbox this weekend : )

EC
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Larry Andrews
   http://www.ekrl.com/

   There's a link to the guy that appears to have exclusive license to
   put on kart events there.  I don't know squat about it except that
   they had their first event there a couple weeks back and people
   seemed to like it.


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