Nobody is,because none of the other general managers for the rest of the teams

are that stupid.-Jael







--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@...> wrote:

>

> And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18 mil

per year now isn't he?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@...>

>

> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

> Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

>

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@> wrote:

> >

> > I had to laugh at the last line.  Too funny Rob.  Is it too early to start

> > the countdown until he is gone?

> >

> >

> >

> > Nat

> >

> >

> >

> >_____

> >

> > From: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Amen, Nat.

> > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

> > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,

> > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,

> > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where

> > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

> > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on

> > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubsFans%40yahoogroups.com>

> > yahoogroups.com, <Azbearfan34@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is

> > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice

> > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.

> > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You

> > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > professional ball player.

> > >

> > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

> > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

> > >

> > > Nat

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

No, it only seems like it.

 

On 11/21/06 he signed an 8-year deal, he's only in the 3rd year.  It just seems

like it's been 15 years.  We have to put up with him until 2014 when he's 38 and

still whining that he want's to bat lead-off.  I now know why Torre wanted to

get rid of himi when he was the Yankees manager.



Frank

-Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...> wrote:





From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:01 AM

















Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:

>

> I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start

> the countdown until he is gone?

>

>

>

> Nat

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Amen, Nat.

> El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

> left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,

> I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,

> which is "Remove head from rectum".

> Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where

> he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

> shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on

> MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> >

> > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is

> not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice

> and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.

> For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You

> might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> professional ball player.

> >

> > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

> signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

> >

> > Nat

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I said in a post about a year ago that a good friend of mine is friends with

Carlos Lee.  He has a kid that lives close to Chicago.  He wanted to play for

the Cubs to be near his daughter.  He personally called Hendry and asked him if

he could work out a deal to play for the Cubs.  Hendry told hom NO because he

was pursuing Sorry-ano.  Unbelievable!



--- On Wed, 7/8/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...> wrote:





From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:17 PM

















Amen, Nat.

El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck, I'd

have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1, which is

"Remove head from rectum".

Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where he

hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my shelf, which

I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on MY hands, I'd

take him over Sorry any day.



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:

>

> What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is not

100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice and

don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing. For 18M

you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You might pinch

hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a professional ball player.

>

> I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

>

> Nat

>







































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Hendry tried for the lifetime contract, but I think it's only for the next

hundred years. 

Wake me up then, fellas. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:01 AM

















































       Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?







--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:



>



> I had to laugh at the last line.  Too funny Rob.  Is it too early to start



> the countdown until he is gone?



>



>



>



> Nat



>



>



>



>   _____



>



> From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



> Amen, Nat.



> El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent



> left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,



> I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



> which is "Remove head from rectum".



> Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where



> he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



> shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on



> MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



>



> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



> yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> >



> > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



> not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice



> and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.



> For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



> might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



> professional ball player.



> >



> > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his



> signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



> >



> > Nat



> >



>



>



>



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>









































































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom- 

Why would you post this. Seriously. Now I'm just going to cry all day. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@...> wrote:



From: Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

















































       I said in a post about a year ago that a good friend of mine is friends

with Carlos Lee.  He has a kid that lives close to Chicago.  He wanted to play

for the Cubs to be near his daughter.  He personally called Hendry and asked him

if he could work out a deal to play for the Cubs.  Hendry told hom NO because he

was pursuing Sorry-ano.  Unbelievable!







--- On Wed, 7/8/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:







From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>



Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:17 PM







Amen, Nat.



El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck, I'd

have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1, which is

"Remove head from rectum".



Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where he

hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my shelf, which

I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on MY hands, I'd

take him over Sorry any day.







--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:



>



> What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is not

100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice and

don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing. For 18M

you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You might pinch

hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a professional ball player.



>



> I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



>



> Nat



>







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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm the first to jump on the "bashing Sorry-ano" bandwagon, but what comments

did he say when Nat said he was a hypocrite?  I missed the article.



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:





From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

















Hendry tried for the lifetime contract, but I think it's only for the next

hundred years. 

Wake me up then, fellas. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:01 AM



Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:



>



> I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start



> the countdown until he is gone?



>



>



>



> Nat



>



>



>



> _____



>



> From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



> Amen, Nat.



> El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent



> left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,



> I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



> which is "Remove head from rectum".



> Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where



> he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



> shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on



> MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



>



> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



> yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> >



> > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



> not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice



> and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.



> For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



> might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



> professional ball player.



> >



> > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his



> signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



> >



> > Nat



> >



>



>



>



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>































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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Regarding your other post about Lee's .600 avg at Wrigley, in that time he was

also facing mediocre Cubs pitching. I always have misgivings about signing

someone who does great at Wrigley.... And then we wonder why they can't do it

against opposing teams when they're with the cubs

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



-----Original Message-----

From: Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@...>



Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:12:45

To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining





I'm the first to jump on the "bashing Sorry-ano" bandwagon, but what comments

did he say when Nat said he was a hypocrite?  I missed the article.



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:





From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

















Hendry tried for the lifetime contract, but I think it's only for the next

hundred years. 

Wake me up then, fellas. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:01 AM



Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:



>



> I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start



> the countdown until he is gone?



>



>



>



> Nat



>



>



>



>_____



>



> From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



>



> Amen, Nat.



> El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent



> left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,



> I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



> which is "Remove head from rectum".



> Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where



> he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



> shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on



> MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



>



> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



> yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> >



> > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



> not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice



> and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.



> For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



> might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



> professional ball player.



> >



> > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his



> signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



> >



> > Nat



> >



>



>



>



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



>































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







































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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I don't know the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of Sorry

talking about Badley not giving 100%, and if he's not going to give 100% day-in

and day-out he shouldn't be on the team. And the Sorry commenced swinging at

balls that bounce on the plate, and only half-heartedly chasing down balls hit

near him.







--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@...> wrote:

>

> I'm the first to jump on the "bashing Sorry-ano" bandwagon, but what comments

did he say when Nat said he was a hypocrite?  I missed the article.

>

> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hendry tried for the lifetime contract, but I think it's only for the next

hundred years. 

> Wake me up then, fellas. 

>

> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:01 AM

>

> Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start

>

> > the countdown until he is gone?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Nat

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > _____

>

> >

>

> > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

> > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

>

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

>

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Amen, Nat.

>

> > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

>

> > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,

>

> > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,

>

> > which is "Remove head from rectum".

>

> > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where

>

> > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

>

> > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on

>

> > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

>

> >

>

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

>

> > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is

>

> > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice

>

> > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.

>

> > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You

>

> > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

>

> > professional ball player.

>

> > >

>

> > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

>

> > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

>

> > >

>

> > > Nat

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Sucks, doesn't it?!  Hendry is a terrible judge of talent.  C-Lee is hitting a

sickening .600 at Wrigley!



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:





From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:11 AM

















Tom- 

Why would you post this. Seriously. Now I'm just going to cry all day. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:08 AM



I said in a post about a year ago that a good friend of mine is friends with

Carlos Lee.  He has a kid that lives close to Chicago.  He wanted to play for

the Cubs to be near his daughter.  He personally called Hendry and asked him if

he could work out a deal to play for the Cubs.  Hendry told hom NO because he

was pursuing Sorry-ano.  Unbelievable!



--- On Wed, 7/8/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>



Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:17 PM



Amen, Nat.



El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent

left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck, I'd

have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1, which is

"Remove head from rectum".



Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where he

hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my shelf, which

I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on MY hands, I'd

take him over Sorry any day.



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ ...> wrote:



>



> What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is not

100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice and

don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing. For 18M

you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You might pinch

hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a professional ball player.



>



> I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his

signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



>



> Nat



>



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Dude...I'm in for a few bucks. 





--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

















































       Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.



I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!



(BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's)   :)







--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@. ..> wrote:



>



> And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18 mil

per year now isn't he?



> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



>



> -----Original Message-----



> From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>



>



> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35



> To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>



> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



>



>



> Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



>



>



> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> >



> > I had to laugh at the last line.  Too funny Rob.  Is it too early to start



> > the countdown until he is gone?



> >



> >



> >



> > Nat



> >



> >



> >



> >_____



> >



> > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> > [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> > Amen, Nat.



> > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent



> > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,



> > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



> > which is "Remove head from rectum".



> > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where



> > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



> > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on



> > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



> >



> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



> > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> > >



> > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



> > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice



> > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.



> > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



> > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



> > professional ball player.



> > >



> > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his



> > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



> > >



> > > Nat



> > >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



> >



>



>



>



>



>



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That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large part of

his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

 

We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done about the

time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade this fall).



Frank

-Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:





From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

















Dude...I'm in for a few bucks. 



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM



Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a huge

chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.



I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!



(BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's) :)



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@. ..> wrote:



>



> And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18 mil

per year now isn't he?



> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



>



> -----Original Message-----



> From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>



>



> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35



> To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>



> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



>



>



> Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



>



>



> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> >



> > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start



> > the countdown until he is gone?



> >



> >



> >



> > Nat



> >



> >



> >



> >_____



> >



> > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> > Amen, Nat.



> > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish, consistent



> > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move. Heck,



> > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



> > which is "Remove head from rectum".



> > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than where



> > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



> > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed on



> > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



> >



> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



> > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



> > >



> > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



> > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own advice



> > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not playing.



> > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



> > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



> > professional ball player.



> > >



> > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret his



> > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



> > >



> > > Nat



> > >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> >



> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



> >



>



>



>



>



>



> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I think

the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best to

cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Frank Martinek

   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining











   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large part of

his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.



   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done about

the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade this

fall).



   Frank

   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-



   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:



   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM



   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.



   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM



   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a huge

chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.



   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!



   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's) :)



   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@. ..> wrote:



   >



   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18

mil per year now isn't he?



   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



   >



   > -----Original Message-----



   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>



   >



   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35



   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>



   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



   >



   >



   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?



   >



   >



   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



   > >



   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start



   > > the countdown until he is gone?



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > > Nat



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >_____



   > >



   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan



   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM



   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com



   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > > Amen, Nat.



   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent



   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.

Heck,



   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step #1,



   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".



   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than

where



   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my



   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises peed

on



   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.



   > >



   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>



   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:



   > > >



   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he is



   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own

advice



   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.



   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow. You



   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a



   > > professional ball player.



   > > >



   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret

his



   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.



   > > >



   > > > Nat



   > > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > >



   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



   > >



   >



   >



   >



   >



   >



   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



   >



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A couple points to this thread:

Tom, when I was in Naperville last week, there was an article that said how MB

did not have a tight knit relationship with anyone in the locker room and that

people did not have his back.  Most players did not say much, but AS made a

comment which basically said if he is not 100% for the team, we don't need him

here.  Now Sorriano is whining that he was not notified beforehand by Lou that

he was sitting out the game.



AJ, I agree that a lot of players fatten up against us at Wrigley but Carlos Lee

is pretty consistent against most teams, and does not sttrike out that much for

a power hitter.  Secondly, he is only signed to a reasonable 4yr deal.



Lastly, Charlie the deal's length is long but not unheard of as arod signed a 10

year deal and then midway through renegotiated.  The issue is who we signed that

deal for and at what point in his career.  Had we signed it 3 years prior and

were 6 years into it, then not as bad, but we are about a 1/3 of the way into it

and already have buyer's remorse.



Nat

---- Charlie B <CBaker99@...> wrote:

> Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I think

the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best to

cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Frank Martinek

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

>   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

>

>

>

>   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large part

of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

>

>   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done about

the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade this

fall).

>

>   Frank

>   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

>

>   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:

>

>   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

>   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

>   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

>

>   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

>

>   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

>   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

>

>   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

>

>   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

>

>   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's) :)

>

>   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@. ..>

wrote:

>

>   >

>

>   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18

mil per year now isn't he?

>

>   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>   >

>

>   > -----Original Message-----

>

>   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

>

>   >

>

>   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

>

>   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

>

>   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

>

>   > >

>

>   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start

>

>   > > the countdown until he is gone?

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > Nat

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >_____

>

>   > >

>

>   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

>   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

>

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

>

>   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

>   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > Amen, Nat.

>

>   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

>

>   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.

Heck,

>

>   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step

#1,

>

>   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

>

>   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than

where

>

>   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

>

>   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

>

>   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

>

>   > >

>

>   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

>

>   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he

is

>

>   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own

advice

>

>   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

>

>   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow.

You

>

>   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

>

>   > > professional ball player.

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret

his

>

>   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > Nat

>

>   > > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>   > >

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>   >

>

>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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>

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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael



--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@...> wrote:

>

> Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I think

the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best to

cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Frank Martinek

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

>   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

>

>

>

>   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large part

of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

>

>   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done about

the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade this

fall).

>

>   Frank

>   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

>

>   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:

>

>   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>

>   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

>   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

>

>   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

>

>   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

>   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

>

>   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

>

>   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

>

>   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's) :)

>

>   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..> wrote:

>

>   >

>

>   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18

mil per year now isn't he?

>

>   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>   >

>

>   > -----Original Message-----

>

>   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

>

>   >

>

>   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

>

>   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

>

>   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

>

>   >

>

>   >

>

>   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

>

>   > >

>

>   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start

>

>   > > the countdown until he is gone?

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > Nat

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >_____

>

>   > >

>

>   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

>   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

>

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

>

>   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

>

>   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > Amen, Nat.

>

>   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

>

>   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.

Heck,

>

>   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step

#1,

>

>   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

>

>   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than

where

>

>   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

>

>   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

>

>   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

>

>   > >

>

>   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

>

>   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he

is

>

>   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own

advice

>

>   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

>

>   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow.

You

>

>   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

>

>   > > professional ball player.

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret

his

>

>   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

>

>   > > >

>

>   > > > Nat

>

>   > > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > >

>

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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>

>   >

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>   >

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>   >

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Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional League?

How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional baseball.

Just throwing out a few ideas.





--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@...> wrote:

>

> Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> >

> > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Frank Martinek

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> >   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> >

> >   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> >

> >   Frank

> >   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> >

> >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@> wrote:

> >

> >   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@>

> >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> >

> >   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> >

> >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> >   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> >

> >   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> >

> >   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> >

> >   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's)

:)

> >

> >   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like

18 mil per year now isn't he?

> >

> >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > -----Original Message-----

> >

> >   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> >

> >   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> >

> >   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> >

> >   > > the countdown until he is gone?

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > Nat

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >_____

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >

> >   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

> >

> >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> >

> >   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >

> >   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > Amen, Nat.

> >

> >   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> >

> >   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.

Heck,

> >

> >   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step

#1,

> >

> >   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> >

> >   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than

where

> >

> >   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

> >

> >   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

> >

> >   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> >

> >   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if

he is

> >

> >   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own

advice

> >

> >   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

> >

> >   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow.

You

> >

> >   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> >

> >   > > professional ball player.

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> >

> >   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > Nat

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

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>

Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



-----Original Message-----

From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@...>



Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining





Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional League?

How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional baseball.

Just throwing out a few ideas.





--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@...> wrote:

>

> Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> >

> > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Frank Martinek

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> >   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> >

> >   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> >

> >   Frank

> >   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> >

> >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@> wrote:

> >

> >   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@>

> >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> >

> >   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> >

> >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> >   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> >

> >   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> >

> >   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> >

> >   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's)

:)

> >

> >   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like

18 mil per year now isn't he?

> >

> >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > -----Original Message-----

> >

> >   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> >

> >   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> >

> >   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> >

> >   > > the countdown until he is gone?

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > Nat

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >_____

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >

> >   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan

> >

> >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> >

> >   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> >

> >   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > Amen, Nat.

> >

> >   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> >

> >   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.

Heck,

> >

> >   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step

#1,

> >

> >   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> >

> >   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than

where

> >

> >   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my

> >

> >   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

> >

> >   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> >

> >   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if

he is

> >

> >   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own

advice

> >

> >   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

> >

> >   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow.

You

> >

> >   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> >

> >   > > professional ball player.

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> >

> >   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > > > Nat

> >

> >   > > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

> >   > >

> >

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> >

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> >

> >   >

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael









--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@...> wrote:

>

> Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@...>

>

> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

> Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

>

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@> wrote:

> >

> > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > >   ----- Original Message -----

> > >   From: Frank Martinek

> > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > >   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > >

> > >   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > >

> > >   Frank

> > >   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > >

> > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@> wrote:

> > >

> > >   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@>

> > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > >

> > >   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > >

> > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > >

> > >   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > >   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > >

> > >   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > >

> > >   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > >

> > >   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > >

> > >   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like

18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > >

> > >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   > -----Original Message-----

> > >

> > >   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > >

> > >   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > >

> > >   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   >

> > >

> > >   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > >

> > >   > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > > Nat

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > >_____

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > >

> > >   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > >

> > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > >

> > >   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > >

> > >   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >   > >

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> > >

> > >   > > Amen, Nat.

> > >

> > >   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > >

> > >   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > >

> > >   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > >

> > >   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > >

> > >   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > >

> > >   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on

my

> > >

> > >   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

> > >

> > >   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > >

> > >   > >

> > >

> > >   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> > >

> > >   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >   > > >

> > >

> > >   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if

he is

> > >

> > >   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > >

> > >   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

> > >

> > >   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > >

> > >   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > >

> > >   > > professional ball player.

> > >

> > >   > > >

> > >

> > >   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > >

> > >   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > >

> > >   > > >

> > >

> > >   > > > Nat

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Nice job killing the joke.

FYI, that's why he put a  ;)  in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

But yeah, thanks.

Go Cubs!



--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@...> wrote:

>

> I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

>

>

>

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> >

> > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> >

> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > >   ----- Original Message -----

> > > >   From: Frank Martinek

> > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > > >   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > >

> > > >   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > >

> > > >   Frank

> > > >   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > >

> > > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@>

> > > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > >

> > > >   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > >

> > > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > >   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > >

> > > >   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying

a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > >

> > > >   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > >

> > > >   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > >

> > > >   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > >

> > > >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   > -----Original Message-----

> > > >

> > > >   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > >

> > > >   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > >

> > > >   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   >

> > > >

> > > >   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > >

> > > >   > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > Nat

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > >_____

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > >   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > >

> > > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > >

> > > >   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > >   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > Amen, Nat.

> > > >

> > > >   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > >

> > > >   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > >

> > > >   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > >

> > > >   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > >

> > > >   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > >

> > > >   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > >

> > > >   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > >

> > > >   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > >

> > > >   > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > >

> > > >   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >   > > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying

if he is

> > > >

> > > >   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > >

> > > >   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > >

> > > >   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > >

> > > >   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > >

> > > >   > > professional ball player.

> > > >

> > > >   > > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > >

> > > >   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > >

> > > >   > > >

> > > >

> > > >   > > > Nat

> > > >

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Sorry! I completely missed the ;)thingy. My bad.-Jael







--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@...>

wrote:

>

> Nice job killing the joke.

> FYI, that's why he put a  ;)  in there. That means it's a joke. That also

means we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again,

the whole ;) thingy)

> But yeah, thanks.

> Go Cubs!

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@> wrote:

> >

> > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > >

> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >

> > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town.

I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is

best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----

> > > > >   From: Frank Martinek

> > > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > > > >   Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a

large part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > >

> > > > >   We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be

done about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th

grade this fall).

> > > > >

> > > > >   Frank

> > > > >   -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > >

> > > > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >   From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@>

> > > > >   Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > > > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >   Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > >

> > > > >   --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >   From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > >   Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >   To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >   Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep

paying a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > >

> > > > >   I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > >

> > > > >   (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > >

> > > > >   --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@

..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > >

> > > > >   > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > -----Original Message-----

> > > > >

> > > > >   > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > >

> > > > >   > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > >

> > > > >   > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early

to start

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > Nat

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >_____

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

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> > > > >   > >

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> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an

unselfish, consistent

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH

forget step #1,

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his

team, than where

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > >

> > > > >   > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by

saying if he is

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow

your own advice

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > professional ball player.

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I

probably regret his

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >   > > > Nat

> > > > >

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> > >

> >

>

LOL!









--- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...> wrote:





From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@...>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

















Nice job killing the joke.

FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

But yeah, thanks.

Go Cubs!



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

>

> I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

>

>

>

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> >

> > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> >

> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > >

> > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > >

> > > > Frank

> > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > >

> > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > >

> > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > >

> > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like

18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > >

> > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >

> > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > >

> > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > >

> > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > >

> > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Nat

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >_____

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > >

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > >

> > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > >

> > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > >

> > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > >

> > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > >

> > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > >

> > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on

my

> > > >

> > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

> > > >

> > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> > > >

> > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if

he is

> > > >

> > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > >

> > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

> > > >

> > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > >

> > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > >

> > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > >

> > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > Nat

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > >

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Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.



Frank

-Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-



--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:





From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

















LOL!



--- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM



Nice job killing the joke.

FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

But yeah, thanks.

Go Cubs!



--- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

>

> I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

>

>

>

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> >

> > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> >

> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> >

> >

> > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point out,an

athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give players

10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain healthy

enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I

think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best

to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > >

> > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > >

> > > > Frank

> > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > >

> > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > >

> > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a

huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > >

> > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like

18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > >

> > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >

> > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > >

> > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > >

> > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > >

> > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Nat

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >_____

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > >

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > >

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > >

> > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > >

> > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > >

> > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > >

> > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > >

> > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > >

> > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on

my

> > > >

> > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises

peed on

> > > >

> > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>

> > > >

> > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if

he is

> > > >

> > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > >

> > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not

playing.

> > > >

> > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > >

> > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > >

> > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > >

> > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > Nat

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

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---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

>

> Frank

> -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> LOL!

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

>

> Nice job killing the joke.

> FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

> But yeah, thanks.

> Go Cubs!

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > >

> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >

> > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town.

I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is

best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > >

> > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > > >

> > > > > Frank

> > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying

a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > >

> > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > >

> > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > > >

> > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Nat

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >_____

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > > >

> > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > > >

> > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > >

> > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > >

> > > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying

if he is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > >

> > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > > >

> > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nat

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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All joking aside, I was fairly happy with most everything about today's game. 

Lilly again pitched great at home, AS may not have crushed the ball but I really

liked his at bats today.  Fuko had a bad 1st at bat, but he crushed his 2nd

chance; unfortunately Ludwich made a nice running catch.  Baker had one bad

defensive play, but otherwise he was nice today.  Really liked that DP.  Theriot

made a nice play in the 9th that should have resulted in another DP and a less

stressful 9th, and finally Gregg came in and took 3 pitches to end the drama.  I

thought MB had some nice swings and overall we played a decent game.  My only

gripes are the following:

1. I would have left Lilly in the game, even to hit him as he was on cruise

control.  Instead Lou went ot a a very questionable Marmol.

2. Marmol had a nice breaking pitch today, but had nothing on his FB again.  Why

is LR able to work that out, as a consistent FB would make him nearly

unhittable.  He looks like he is always overthrowing that pitch.  Lou left him

in too long today, but luckily KG closed it out.

3. Pujols did not hustle out of the box in the 9th on that hit, and Buck all but

bent over backwards apologizing for him.  Had that been anyone on the Cubs,

especially ARAM he would have gone ballistic complaining about the lack of

hustle ,,, yada yada yada .. yackety smackety.  I hate Joe Buck more than any

other announcer.  I would almost rather listed to Chris Berman .. and that says

a lot.

Nat





---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

>

> Frank

> -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> LOL!

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

>

> Nice job killing the joke.

> FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

> But yeah, thanks.

> Go Cubs!

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > >

> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >

> > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town.

I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is

best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > >

> > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > > >

> > > > > Frank

> > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying

a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > >

> > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > >

> > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > > >

> > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Nat

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >_____

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > > >

> > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > > >

> > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > >

> > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > >

> > > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying

if he is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > >

> > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > > >

> > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nat

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In the case of Marmol u give LR too much credit in his ability to make changes

to Marmol's performance.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



-----Original Message-----

From: <Azbearfan34@...>



Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:38:09

To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: Frank Martinek<mustangfrank_2000@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining





All joking aside, I was fairly happy with most everything about today's game. 

Lilly again pitched great at home, AS may not have crushed the ball but I really

liked his at bats today.  Fuko had a bad 1st at bat, but he crushed his 2nd

chance; unfortunately Ludwich made a nice running catch.  Baker had one bad

defensive play, but otherwise he was nice today.  Really liked that DP.  Theriot

made a nice play in the 9th that should have resulted in another DP and a less

stressful 9th, and finally Gregg came in and took 3 pitches to end the drama.  I

thought MB had some nice swings and overall we played a decent game.  My only

gripes are the following:

1. I would have left Lilly in the game, even to hit him as he was on cruise

control.  Instead Lou went ot a a very questionable Marmol.

2. Marmol had a nice breaking pitch today, but had nothing on his FB again.  Why

is LR able to work that out, as a consistent FB would make him nearly

unhittable.  He looks like he is always overthrowing that pitch.  Lou left him

in too long today, but luckily KG closed it out.

3. Pujols did not hustle out of the box in the 9th on that hit, and Buck all but

bent over backwards apologizing for him.  Had that been anyone on the Cubs,

especially ARAM he would have gone ballistic complaining about the lack of

hustle ,,, yada yada yada .. yackety smackety.  I hate Joe Buck more than any

other announcer.  I would almost rather listed to Chris Berman .. and that says

a lot.

Nat





---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

>

> Frank

> -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> LOL!

>

> --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

>

> Nice job killing the joke.

> FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also means

we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again, the

whole ;) thingy)

> But yeah, thanks.

> Go Cubs!

>

> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > >

> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > >

> > >

> > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town.

I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is

best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year

contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large

part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > >

> > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done

about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade

this fall).

> > > > >

> > > > > Frank

> > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying

a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > >

> > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@ ..>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > >

> > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to

start

> > > > >

> > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Nat

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >_____

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,

consistent

> > > > >

> > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget

step #1,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team,

than where

> > > > >

> > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > >

> > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > >

> > > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying

if he is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your

own advice

> > > > >

> > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > >

> > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably

regret his

> > > > >

> > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nat

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Marmol is odd this year. He seems to only have 1 pitch working at a time. Either

his FB is great, but he can't get his slider anywhere near the zone, or his

slider makes batters look awful, but he can't throw a FB near the plate, let

alone over it.

I don't know if it has anything to do with the WBC, but last season, all season,

he had both his pitches working well, every time out.





--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@...> wrote:

>

> In the case of Marmol u give LR too much credit in his ability to make changes

to Marmol's performance.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <Azbearfan34@...>

>

> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:38:09

> To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: Frank Martinek<mustangfrank_2000@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

> All joking aside, I was fairly happy with most everything about today's game. 

Lilly again pitched great at home, AS may not have crushed the ball but I really

liked his at bats today.  Fuko had a bad 1st at bat, but he crushed his 2nd

chance; unfortunately Ludwich made a nice running catch.  Baker had one bad

defensive play, but otherwise he was nice today.  Really liked that DP.  Theriot

made a nice play in the 9th that should have resulted in another DP and a less

stressful 9th, and finally Gregg came in and took 3 pitches to end the drama.  I

thought MB had some nice swings and overall we played a decent game.  My only

gripes are the following:

> 1. I would have left Lilly in the game, even to hit him as he was on cruise

control.  Instead Lou went ot a a very questionable Marmol.

> 2. Marmol had a nice breaking pitch today, but had nothing on his FB again. 

Why is LR able to work that out, as a consistent FB would make him nearly

unhittable.  He looks like he is always overthrowing that pitch.  Lou left him

in too long today, but luckily KG closed it out.

> 3. Pujols did not hustle out of the box in the 9th on that hit, and Buck all

but bent over backwards apologizing for him.  Had that been anyone on the Cubs,

especially ARAM he would have gone ballistic complaining about the lack of

hustle ,,, yada yada yada .. yackety smackety.  I hate Joe Buck more than any

other announcer.  I would almost rather listed to Chris Berman .. and that says

a lot.

> Nat

>

>

> ---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> > Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

> >

> > Frank

> > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

> >

> > Nice job killing the joke.

> > FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also

means we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again,

the whole ;) thingy)

> > But yeah, thanks.

> > Go Cubs!

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of

town. I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it

is best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15

year contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a

large part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be

done about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th

grade this fall).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Frank

> > > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep

paying a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@

..> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early

to start

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an

unselfish, consistent

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH

forget step #1,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his

team, than where

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by

saying if he is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow

your own advice

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I

probably regret his

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nat

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I think that it is something mechanical is all, and almost always appears that

he is overthrowing it.  If it was only a control issue, then I would blame

Marmol for that.  I just think that if he was pitching in ST Louis or even on

the South side he would be one of the top relievers in the league.  Just a gut

feeling is all...



Nat

---- A Ploessl <ajploessl@...> wrote:

> In the case of Marmol u give LR too much credit in his ability to make changes

to Marmol's performance.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <Azbearfan34@...>

>

> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:38:09

> To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: Frank Martinek<mustangfrank_2000@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

> All joking aside, I was fairly happy with most everything about today's game. 

Lilly again pitched great at home, AS may not have crushed the ball but I really

liked his at bats today.  Fuko had a bad 1st at bat, but he crushed his 2nd

chance; unfortunately Ludwich made a nice running catch.  Baker had one bad

defensive play, but otherwise he was nice today.  Really liked that DP.  Theriot

made a nice play in the 9th that should have resulted in another DP and a less

stressful 9th, and finally Gregg came in and took 3 pitches to end the drama.  I

thought MB had some nice swings and overall we played a decent game.  My only

gripes are the following:

> 1. I would have left Lilly in the game, even to hit him as he was on cruise

control.  Instead Lou went ot a a very questionable Marmol.

> 2. Marmol had a nice breaking pitch today, but had nothing on his FB again. 

Why is LR able to work that out, as a consistent FB would make him nearly

unhittable.  He looks like he is always overthrowing that pitch.  Lou left him

in too long today, but luckily KG closed it out.

> 3. Pujols did not hustle out of the box in the 9th on that hit, and Buck all

but bent over backwards apologizing for him.  Had that been anyone on the Cubs,

especially ARAM he would have gone ballistic complaining about the lack of

hustle ,,, yada yada yada .. yackety smackety.  I hate Joe Buck more than any

other announcer.  I would almost rather listed to Chris Berman .. and that says

a lot.

> Nat

>

>

> ---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> > Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

> >

> > Frank

> > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

> >

> > Nice job killing the joke.

> > FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also

means we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again,

the whole ;) thingy)

> > But yeah, thanks.

> > Go Cubs!

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of

town. I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it

is best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15

year contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a

large part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be

done about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th

grade this fall).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Frank

> > > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep

paying a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@

..> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early

to start

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nat

> > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an

unselfish, consistent

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH

forget step #1,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his

team, than where

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

ps.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by

saying if he is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow

your own advice

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > professional ball player.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I

probably regret his

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

done.

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nat

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I'm just saying that when Zambrano had mechanical trouble it took LR almost half

a season to figure out that he was throwing out of a different "slot".

Fundamental pitching mechanics tell you that when a pitcher drops his arm from

normal the pitch thrown tends to be high and the cause of the drop is usually

due to fatigue or injury if it differs from the usual delivery and is

consistent.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



-----Original Message-----

From: <Azbearfan34@...>



Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:26:16

To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: A Ploessl<ajploessl@...>

Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining





I think that it is something mechanical is all, and almost always appears that

he is overthrowing it.  If it was only a control issue, then I would blame

Marmol for that.  I just think that if he was pitching in ST Louis or even on

the South side he would be one of the top relievers in the league.  Just a gut

feeling is all...



Nat

---- A Ploessl <ajploessl@...> wrote:

> In the case of Marmol u give LR too much credit in his ability to make changes

to Marmol's performance.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <Azbearfan34@...>

>

> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:38:09

> To: <DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: Frank Martinek<mustangfrank_2000@...>

> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

>

>

> All joking aside, I was fairly happy with most everything about today's game. 

Lilly again pitched great at home, AS may not have crushed the ball but I really

liked his at bats today.  Fuko had a bad 1st at bat, but he crushed his 2nd

chance; unfortunately Ludwich made a nice running catch.  Baker had one bad

defensive play, but otherwise he was nice today.  Really liked that DP.  Theriot

made a nice play in the 9th that should have resulted in another DP and a less

stressful 9th, and finally Gregg came in and took 3 pitches to end the drama.  I

thought MB had some nice swings and overall we played a decent game.  My only

gripes are the following:

> 1. I would have left Lilly in the game, even to hit him as he was on cruise

control.  Instead Lou went ot a a very questionable Marmol.

> 2. Marmol had a nice breaking pitch today, but had nothing on his FB again. 

Why is LR able to work that out, as a consistent FB would make him nearly

unhittable.  He looks like he is always overthrowing that pitch.  Lou left him

in too long today, but luckily KG closed it out.

> 3. Pujols did not hustle out of the box in the 9th on that hit, and Buck all

but bent over backwards apologizing for him.  Had that been anyone on the Cubs,

especially ARAM he would have gone ballistic complaining about the lack of

hustle ,,, yada yada yada .. yackety smackety.  I hate Joe Buck more than any

other announcer.  I would almost rather listed to Chris Berman .. and that says

a lot.

> Nat

>

>

> ---- Frank Martinek <mustangfrank_2000@...> wrote:

> > Actually he did a good job of being the straight man and you nailed it home.

> >

> > Frank

> > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Doug Betz <s_hill_betz@...>

> > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:58 PM

> >

> > Nice job killing the joke.

> > FYI, that's why he put a ;) in there. That means it's a joke. That also

means we/he doesn't need someone correcting him on his obvious sarcasm. (Again,

the whole ;) thingy)

> > But yeah, thanks.

> > Go Cubs!

> >

> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I believe he hails from the Dominican Republic.

> > > He could have Italian ancestry though.-Jael

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Soriano's an Italian name isn't it? ;)

> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: "beeker5757" <cubsfana1@>

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:22

> > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can't we see if we can trade him to a team in the Japanese Professional

League? How about the Australian or Taiwanese leagues? Italy has professional

baseball. Just throwing out a few ideas.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Jael Sisera" <spydurqueen@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone who isn't in his right mind,namely Jim Hendry. As you point

out,an athlete's career can come to an end just like that. It is insane to give

players 10 to 15 year contracts when there is no guarantee they will remain

healthy enough to play out those contracts. Even 5 years is too long. A contract

shouldn't be any longer than 2 years. The Yanks were insane to sign A Rod to a

10 year contract as good a player as he is.-Jael

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Charlie B" <CBaker99@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of

town. I think the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it

is best to cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15

year contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.

> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > From: Frank Martinek

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a

large part of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be

done about the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th

grade this fall).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Frank

> > > > > > -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@ >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>

> > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep

paying a huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late

'90's) :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@

..> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making

like 18 mil per year now isn't he?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?

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> > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@

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> > > > > > > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early

to start

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> > > > > > > > the countdown until he is gone?

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> > > > > > > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

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> > > > > > > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

robthecubsfan

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> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM

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> > > > > > > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com

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> > > > > > > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining

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> > > > > > > > Amen, Nat.

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> > > > > > > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an

unselfish, consistent

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> > > > > > > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst

non-move. Heck,

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> > > > > > > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH

forget step #1,

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> > > > > > > > which is "Remove head from rectum".

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> > > > > > > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his

team, than where

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> > > > > > > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting

on my

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> > > > > > > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if

Moises peed on

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> > > > > > > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou

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> > > > > > > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by

saying if he is

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> > > > > > > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow

your own advice

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> > > > > > > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is

not playing.

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> > > > > > > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play

anyhow. You

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> > > > > > > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a

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> > > > > > > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I

probably regret his

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> > > > > > > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has

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