A couple points to this thread:
Tom, when I was in Naperville last week, there was an article that said how MB
did not have a tight knit relationship with anyone in the locker room and that
people did not have his back. Most players did not say much, but AS made a
comment which basically said if he is not 100% for the team, we don't need him
here. Now Sorriano is whining that he was not notified beforehand by Lou that
he was sitting out the game.

AJ, I agree that a lot of players fatten up against us at Wrigley but Carlos Lee
is pretty consistent against most teams, and does not sttrike out that much for
a power hitter. Secondly, he is only signed to a reasonable 4yr deal.

Lastly, Charlie the deal's length is long but not unheard of as arod signed a 10
year deal and then midway through renegotiated. The issue is who we signed that
deal for and at what point in his career. Had we signed it 3 years prior and
were 6 years into it, then not as bad, but we are about a 1/3 of the way into it
and already have buyer's remorse.

Nat
---- Charlie B <CBaker99@...> wrote:
> Lol that's what the 49er's had to do to get Terrell Owens out of town. I think
the 9ers pay him the entire time he played at Philly. sometimes it is best to
cut losses... However who in their right mind signs someone to a 15 year
contract. Pro sports career's can end in a heartbeat.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frank Martinek
> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining
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> That's about the only way we're going to get rid of him is eat a large part
of his contract because as it is right now, he's un-tradeable.
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> We'll see what happens when new mgmt steps in, the deal should be done about
the time my son is graduating from college (he's going in the 6th grade this
fall).
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> Frank
> -Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission-
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> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Keenan <keenan_laraway@...> wrote:
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> From: Keenan <keenan_laraway@...>
> Subject: Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining
> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:57 PM
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> Dude...I'm in for a few bucks.
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> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: robthecubsfan <robthecubsfan@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining
> To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:53 PM
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> Yeah, the only way we're likely to get rid of him is if we keep paying a
huge chunk of his contract for him to play somewhere else.
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> I don't know about you guys, but as the song goes, "I got $5 on it"!
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> (BTW, old dudes Geo and Mike, it's a rap song from the mid-to-late '90's) :)
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> --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "A Ploessl" <ajploessl@. ..>
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> > And who's gonna pick up the balance on that contract? He's making like 18
mil per year now isn't he?
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> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> > From: "robthecubsfan" <robthecubsfan@ ...>
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> > Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:01:35
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> > To: <DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com>
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> > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining
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> > Aren't we stuck with Selfish-ano for like, 124 more years?
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> > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com, "Nat Mara" <Azbearfan34@ >
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> > > I had to laugh at the last line. Too funny Rob. Is it too early to start
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> > > the countdown until he is gone?
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> > > From: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > [mailto:DiehardCubs Fans@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robthecubsfan
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17 PM
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> > > To: DiehardCubsFans@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Re: Soriano whining
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> > > Amen, Nat.
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> > > El Cabayo could have been the leader we needed, and an unselfish,
consistent
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> > > left-fielder. Losing out on him probably was Hendry's worst non-move.
Heck,
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> > > I'd have even taken Mags over Sorry-ano, but yet again, JH forget step
#1,
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> > > which is "Remove head from rectum".
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> > > Remember when we had a LF'er who cared a LOT more about his team, than
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> > > he hits in the order? I actually got one of his HR balls sitting on my
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> > > shelf, which I had to honestly fight for on Waveland. Even if Moises
peed on
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> > > MY hands, I'd take him over Sorry any day.
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> > > --- In DiehardCubsFans@ <mailto:DiehardCubs Fans%40yahoogrou ps.com>
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> > > yahoogroups. com, <Azbearfan34@ > wrote:
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> > > > What a hypocrite. Wasn't he the one who called out MB by saying if he
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> > > not 100% about the team, then we don't need him here. Follow your own
advice
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> > > and don't whine about having to "prepare for a game" when he is not
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> > > For 18M you should always prepare as if you were going to play anyhow.
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> > > might pinch hit, or run for someone or just basically act like a
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> > > > I cannot wait until he no longer plays for the Cubs. I probably regret
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> > > signing over Carlos Lee more than any other that Trader Jim has done.
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