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Re: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP Taking an optimist view of 2006

Here is my take: Computer analysis has it right now that the Cubs
should win 87 games and be in the race for the WC.

We know that the roster is going to change even more, that is the
consequence of going to Spring Training.

We also know that players emerge and play well or play poorly.
Projecting what they will do one has to look at indicators:

FA years historically has a better impact on the performance than
not, barring injury.

Injuries happen and effect more than an individual has on a team's
overall performance.

On par the Cubs need to turn 11 games around from last year and win
90 games.

How much impact will Pierre and possibly Hairston in the 1-2 spot be
better than Patterson and Perez? How about Pierre's defense and
baserunning? If Hairston is indeed really healthy will he score 90-
100 runs?

How much impact will having Cedeno at SS in taking away opponent's
hits?

How much impact will having Murton in the Batting order over DuBois
and Hollandsworth?

How much impact will Eyre & Howry have over Hawkins and Remlinger?

Here are the uncertainities. starting pitching, period.

Zambrano's health due to the WBC. Does Prior really have an elbow
problem and why Hendry is stocking up with Miller & Sim'chi plus
taking the option on Rusch? Wood will not be ready till closer to
Memorial Day than April Fool's day. Has Maddux finally hit the wall
or does he have 200 innings left? Can Williams, Hill, Guzman
actually pitch in the SHOW?

Rusch is a 5 inning pitcher
Maddux is a 6 inning pitcher
Wood is only starting 20 games.
Miller is not ready until June 15-30
Guzman has a brittle record
Hill has a lack of command pattern
Williams has a focus history

So that means Zambrano and Prior have to carry the load?

So I am excited this year. To me their are basically two holes in
the Cubs roster as it stands right now.

Front and center is a bona fide #3 starter. Whether the farm system
emerges that person or a trade Cubs cannot go with both Rusch and
Maddux burdening the bullpen. I think Zito or Wells is the answer
but Zito the cost might be too high or not available at all.

Number two and more subtle is a RH bat for RF platoon. Jones would
kill RHP'ing but would be a burden with LHP'ing. Grissom is not the
answer but I think Mench is.

So finishing this thought I think the Cubs can get Mench with Walker
and Theriot going to Texas.

Getting Wells could possibly be trading Perez (where Boston needs a
SS badly) and possibly getting Graffanino in return. Cubs would have
to probably trade Rusch or Williams/Hill/Guzman mix and not the
worst.

Inserting Wells (a 42-year old) appears risky but in fact he is a
200 IP steady starting pitcher who could take the Cubs to July when
Wood and Miller would be healthy.

Trading Graffanio and Mench for Walker and Perez would make for a
big improvement on the Cubs bench. Graffanino would provide better
backup for Ramirez and for emergency purposes be there for SS and
2B. Mench would be a real 4th OF where the Cubs could carry Grissom
as the 5th OF to back up Pierre.

This roster would have the best chance winning 90plus games barring
significant injury to (Lee, Ramirez, Pierre)





--- In DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com, Conj <conj98@...> wrote:
>
> I hope...
>
> --- Tom Imbordino <jazzfusion981@...> wrote:
>
> > Excellent post, RW.
> >
> > rw_nemanich <bobsue_nemanich@...> wrote:
> > Any of you can take a pessmist view of the upcoming '06
> > season, heck
> > history is on your side. But why then be a fan unless you
> > like suicide
> > watches.
> >
> > That said I will also point out that did anyone predict
> > or think that
> > Derrick Lee was going to jump from .278 and 30-33 HR's to
> > .335 and
> > 46-HR's?
> >
> > Or the previous year watching Ramirez go from a .250 and
> > 15 HR's to a
> > .318-.302 31-35-HR's type of hitter?
> >
> > Or did anyone of you know of or even predict that Murton
> > and/or Cedeno
> > would be minor league stars let alone ascend to THE SHOW
> > and maintain a
> > .300 plus (Murton .321 and Cedeno .300 respectively)
> > average?
> >
> > Or how many of you predicted that Barrett would emerge as
> > one of the
> > better offensive catchers going from .206 BA to
> > consecutive years of
> > .287 and .276 with 16 HR's each year?
> >
> > How many predicted the ascent and command of Zambrano
> > when he emerged in
> > '03 43-25 and averaging about a 3.00 ERA? How about the
> > emergence of
> > Wuertz and Ohman?
> >
> > So here is my optimist view of '06 and why.
> >
> > Pierre: A FA year with a team that is not distracted by
> > dismantling
> > Pierre not only returns to career numbers but exceed
> > them: BA-.330
> > (OBP-.382) and 60-SB on 80 attempts.
> >
> > Hairston: A FA year where he is finally healthy he earns
> > the starting 2B
> > job, 2.95-BA (.375-OBP) 25-SB on 36 attempts.
> >
> > Lee: He signs an extension and still produces BA-.329,
> > 44-HR's and
> > 120-RBI's
> >
> > Ramirez: Now a star he bats .309, 38-HR's and 125-RBI's
> >
> > Jones: He settles down into a regular platoon (with a
> > still unknown
> > OF'er acquired in the Walker/prospect trade), he tears up
> > RHP'ers
> > batting .318 hitting 16-HR's.
> >
> > Murton: He continues to simply hit, hit, hit batting .340
> > with .390-OBP
> > and stroking 14-HR's.
> >
> > Barrett: He continues to be a consistent hitter at .285
> > and 16-HR's
> >
> > Cedeno: He solidifies the SS and even though he bats 8th
> > he maintains a
> > .290-BA and .360-OBP
> >
> > Prior returns to form winning 20-9, Zambrano is 18-8 and
> > Maddux returns
> > to 15-12, while Wood remains healthy but only is 10-5.
> > There still is
> > one pitcher unknown who is 12-9. That is 75 wins and
> > Rusch is 5-5 or 80
> > wins and the bullpen is 18 wins. Dempster has 39 saves.
> >
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Any of you can take a pessmist view of the upcoming '06 season, heck history is on your side. But why then be a fan unless you like suicide watches. That said...
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Excellent post, RW. rw_nemanich <bobsue_nemanich@...> wrote: Any of you can take a pessmist view of the upcoming '06 season, heck history is on your side....
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Here is my take: Computer analysis has it right now that the Cubs should win 87 games and be in the race for the WC. We know that the roster is going to change...
rw_nemanich
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Feb 6, 2006
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I agree on a bit of what you say. The biggest thing I have a problem with is bringing Wells in here. I think the negative impact he could have would really be...
E. George Mucher III
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Feb 6, 2006
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GEO: The problem is real MLB rosters are not fan-friendly fantasy rosters. Teams don't trade away players who don't have baggage. Furthermore there are few...
rw_nemanich
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Feb 6, 2006
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Who ever said anything about fan friendly fantasy rosters? What I am talking about is the fact that we picked up 2 guys NOTED for being hardworking guys: ...
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Great post George: You and Robert make some good points, however I am a little gun shy still about trading young pitchers: ala Jon Garland and Dontrelle...
Conj
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Yeah- but at the time Dontrelle was not going to get a shot any time soon. And we did get Clement in return, although we did not resign him, and he did a...
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Let us look at Willis and Garland. Garland was a #1 draft choice still in A level with probably the smoothest motion on the staff. But it took him 4 years to...
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... am talking ... hardworking guys:. Wells is a guy that can ... hesitation, ... one guy I ... PROSPECTS- ... worth as much OK a few things: As for the cost...
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I really like the thought of adding Mench, but I believe that the Sox just signed or are about to sign Alex Gonzales of the Marlins. Wells would be OK, but he...
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So you think that Matt Murton is going to hit .340, which would be the highest by a REAL rookie (not Ichiro) since Willie McCovey in 1959? Please. The numbers...
Don Henley
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Just for everyone's knowledge: MLB does not consider Murton a rookie anymore...so if he did hit .340, he would do it as a 2nd year guy...who knows with him...
Conj
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He isn't a rookie by MLB standards, but he's had what--50 games? This will be his first full season, so I can't see him hitting .340. Not even Pujols hit...
Don Henley
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No he hit .329 37-HR's and 137-RBI's If he took just 20 more walks (or walked as much as he did two years later) he would have hit .340 Pujols did not even...
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hi all, I just think Murton might be a diamond in the rough. After the whole Garciapara ordeal...getting Murton...in lieu of what happened with Nomar...may...
Conj
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It really wasn't a mistake. Murton was in A-Ball and essentially blocked by Ramirez in LF (Ortiz at DH if you want to move Ramirez) and Nixon in RF. Murton hit...
rw_nemanich
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well, If Murton turns out to be an All-Star for the Cubs(throw in) like Garland and Willis, I am sure Boston would consider it a mistake. I am just very...
Conj
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... I think if someone expects Murton to be an expected power hitter type that is placed in left field, they will be discontented. But if they look at his...
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Don, I don't believe anyone said Matt was going to hit .340. Actually, I believe that you threw out that number all while telling us we should "aim lower"....
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Good research Robert .. You really DO have to get a hobby or something though... :-) I, like you, am convinced that Murton could be something. I also think...
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As for Murton I think he is the real deal, more so from what I was told from some close to the clubhouse who know of his approach. As for my optimism...I don't...
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Being the real deal=/=.340 BA. And yes, you need to be more realistic, or else you'll be sorely disappointed. ... was ... approach. ... be ... McCovey in ... ...
Don Henley
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You do realize that Murton hit just above .260 against right handers last year. I think annointing him "sophomore of the year" is way premature. ... ...
Mark Tristan
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hey, I will TELL you all this...Murton needs the same damn 2000 fricking at bats Dusty gave Corey to prove himself.... If Dusty is not patient with Murton, as...
Conj
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Feb 8, 2006
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This is getting ridiculous. Who is annointing Matt "sophomore of the year"? He was a pleasant surprise last year, albeit in a very small role last year. IF...
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I agree 100% Nat!!! -Geo ... From: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Azbearfan34@... Sent:...
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From watching the cubs lately, we all know that Baker likes to give his bench guys at bats. How in the world is he going to be able to give at bats to 3...
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