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RE: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP what about Williamson

I like your sentiments Jake, however the only thing I sort of disagree with is
the CP/Wlker for Pierre trade. I think htat would be fair becuase we would be
in essence trading two 1-dimensional players for one 2-dimensional player.
Pretty fair to me ..

Nat
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-------------- Original message from Jake Long <long_jp@...>:
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Williamson and Rusch are essential to have around
considering the injury question marks that surround Wood
and, to a lesser extent, Prior. Statistically, Williamson
is an above-average, albeit slightly above average,
performer for his age. He also appears to be on the uptick
and I fully expect he will continue to become better under
the tutelage of Larry Rothschild.

I'm not sure about Burnett even though his stuff IS
way-nasty. His current stats and injury history worry me.
I'd be more interested in getting a lesser "big name" type
guy w/ via trade (don't have any names to throw out @ the
moment).

>>How about a Patterson and Walker deal for Pierre?

I can agree on Patterson and another player of average
talent but tend to think giving Walker would tilt the deal
in the Marlin's favor.

Also, an outfield of Nomar, Pierre, Murton would seem to be
a fairly weak throwing OF, wouldn't it? I know Murton
doesn't have a great arm...it is IMO average. I know for
certain that Pierre's arm is below average. Nomar has a
fairly strong arm but how much would he need to change his
mechanics if he were to play LF - that rock skipping
throwing motion doesn't seem feasible for playing the OF.
Just worrying about seeings lots of runners going 1st to
3rd on us w/ that proposed OF. Great thoughts however.

I DO want to see Murton getting regular playing time.
Echoing other comments...what else does the kid need to
do??? As long as he remains consistent and fundamentally
sound in the fall league I fully expect him to have every
chance to play regularly. The recent interview they had w/
Matt on Cubs.com reinforced my belief that this guy has his
head screwed on straight and knows how to exceed,
regardless of @ what level (minors, fall league, majors,
etc).

I hope this is what Hendry & Co. are thinking too or they
might have a few militant fans on their hands next year...I
know I'll be leading the lynch mob if Murton doesn't get a
fair shot.

I'm loving this discussion,

J.P.

--- "E. George Mucher III" <fishydude@...> wrote:

> I forgot about Williamson who did pretty well for us. I
> think I like that
> option better than Rusch, but we'll see- we might end up
> needing BOTH of
> them. I would like the Cubs to get a top notch starter
> too, although Burnett
> reminds me a little of Wood- lots of Ks but not a lot of
> wins. I don't know
> if we can get by with 2 pitchers like that.
>
> As far as other positions, I know that Furcal would be
> playing 2nd base for
> the Mets, so maybe he would be more interested in playing
> for the Cubs if
> they would keep him at SS. How about a Patterson and
> Walker deal for Pierre?
> Nomar in left, and move Murton to right. Then we could
> have a lineup of:
> Furcal, Pierre, Lee, Ramirez, Nomar, Murton, Cedeno,
> Barret, Pitcher. That
> looks pretty good to me!!!
>
> Now as for the bullpen, other than Dempster- icky bad!!!
>
> -Geo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mark tiby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:41 AM
> To: DiehardCubsFans@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: DIEHARD CUBS GROUP what about Williamson
>
> I agree with your posts everyone but 6 starters, what
> about Williamson?
> Probably trade bait but he really impressed me last year.
> I think he upside
> is really good and he is so young! Having 7 starters is a
> luxury only the
> Yankees can afford. I would rather have a great 4th
> outfielder.
>
> Giles reported going to St. Lois, Furcal interested in
> Mets, Pierre
> interested in Cubs. Should Nomar be our left fielder? Or
> Walker?
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I agree with your posts everyone but 6 starters, what about Williamson? Probably trade bait but he really impressed me last year. I think he upside is really...
mark tiby
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I WANT MURTON IN LEFT....END OF STORY THE KID IS A WINNER CONJ ... __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one...
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Murton to me is a good 4th or 5th outfielder, not a good everyday player ... he's not ready, Marty ... From: Conj <conj98@...> To:...
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Nov 1, 2005
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This comment surprises me, what does the kid need to do to prove himself? He had one of the highest averages on the team for a new kid, getting spotty play at...
E. George Mucher III
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Nov 1, 2005
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take it what its worth Over the weekend i was talking with one my g/f friends and she said she was from atlanta and she graduated from high school with Corey...
shawn mccaw
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Nov 1, 2005
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A change of scenery might do the guy a LOT of good!! Not that it matters but I shudder to think how most Cub fans would respond if he had success elsewhere. ...
Jake Long
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Nov 1, 2005
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if patterson has success elsewhere, more power to him. he wouldn't be the first cub to go somewhere else and tear it up. We should try and trade him....
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Maybe use Patterson and Walker in 2 different trades, like one of them towards the Pierre trade, and one of them towards a trade for Zito. I also heard on WSCR...
E. George Mucher III
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Nov 2, 2005
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If Patterson leaves and takes off, good for him. It would confirm what I've been saying all along....our coaching staff stinks. Jake Long <long_jp@...>...
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Keep dreaming, Geo............... "E. George Mucher III" <fishydude@...> wrote:Maybe use Patterson and Walker in 2 different trades, like one of them...
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Nov 2, 2005
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Would we really want A-Rod anyway? All he's going to do is take up more salary than he's really worth. We have more needs than another slugger in the lineup....
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Now Rusty has said the most sensible thing I have heard in awhile...good post RUSTY... Conj ... === message truncated === __________________________________ ...
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Nov 2, 2005
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Williamson and Rusch are essential to have around considering the injury question marks that surround Wood and, to a lesser extent, Prior. Statistically,...
Jake Long
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Nov 1, 2005
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I like your sentiments Jake, however the only thing I sort of disagree with is the CP/Wlker for Pierre trade. I think htat would be fair becuase we would be...
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Never thought of it that way Nat. It's an interesting and, IMO, valid perspective w/ merit. ... __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo!...
Jake Long
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Thank you sir ... andI can not wait for the trading/shopping begin. Nat -- ... Never thought of it that way Nat. It's an interesting and, IMO, valid...
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I forgot about Williamson who did pretty well for us. I think I like that option better than Rusch, but we'll see- we might end up needing BOTH of them. I...
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