IN THIS WEEK'S MESSAGE:
+ Open Space Trails feedback
+ Thursday evening run – 3 TIMES TO CHOOSE FROM
+ Other DTR affiliated runs: Sat Evergreen, Sun Golden
+ Donate your old (or new) running shoes
+ Carpools - Rimrock
+ Featured Race: Halloween Havoc – DTR teams wanted
+ Race calendar
+ Clinics and other events - NEW
+ Other area clubs and runs – New listings
+ Discounts for DTRs

OPEN SPACE
Thanks to those of you who have sent your comments on Jeffco OS
trails. However, I've only heard from a few of you. If you want to
have a voice, if you want trail runners to have as much of a say as
mountain bikers and other users, I need to hear from you. I (Adam)
will be presenting your views at the Trail Users Task Force (TUTF)
meeting, on Oct 23. Please respond by this weekend so I have time to
compile the responses for the meeting.

Go to the message/link below:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/DenverTrailRunners/message/802
Please respond to the questions in the third paragraph, as well as the
survey at the bottom. Please place your responses in the e-mail, not
as an attachment.

More info on Jeffco OS, and the TUTF, can be found at
http://jeffco.us/openspace/index.htm
http://jeffco.us/openspace/openspace_T56_R127.htm


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THURSDAY RUN
Run Location: Bear Creek Lake Park. Meet outside the park, just W of
C-470, in the dirt lot, at the corner of Rooney and Morrison roads,
across from the gas station and bike path. There are three
/times/groups to choose from:
Mary's group - 3:30pm
Scott's group - 5:30pm
Main group - 6:00pm

Run Notes: Bear Creek Lake Park is one of our regular winter run
locations. The trails are mostly flat and not that rocky. The park
roads and bike paths provide a vehicle free (almost) paved option when
it's too snowy (like most of last winter) or muddy. This week,
everyone should be able to make it across Turkey Creek while it's
still light. After that, the trail to the base of the dam is fairly
open and smooth. From the base of the dam, you can take paved roads back.
Sunset 6:17pm
End Civil Twilight 6:44pm

Upcoming Thursday schedule (subject to change):
10/25: Green Mtn. 6:07/6:35. FM 10:52pm; moonrise at 5:36pm.
We're open to suggestions after this.

If you are new to DTR and unfamiliar with the trails, and for more
information about DTR, including FAQs, please go to the link below.
For directions, route descriptions and explanation of ratings, please
follow the link below to maps.
http://dtr.runuphillracing.com/

All messages are archived, and more group information is also
available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/denvertrailrunners

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OTHER DTR AFFILIATED RUNS

SATURDAY EVERGREEN
The Evergreen Runners Circle (ERC) holds FREE runs every Saturday,
8:30am, on trails, in the Evergreen area. Several DTR regulars join
these runs. The ERC runs are typically about 60 minutes long. They
usually go out for coffee/breakfast afterwards. Please forward your
questions to Dave via the ERC link below. For more info about the ERC
schedules, go to: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Lodge/7018/index.html
Schedule:
10/20; Alderfer/3 Sisters
10/27; Genesee Overlook
11/3; Evergreen Lakehouse
11/10; Chief Hosa
11/17; Elk Meadow. Lower lot.
11/24; Upper Bear Creek Rd, 5mi sign

SUNDAY GOLDEN
Golden weekend runs are Sundays at 7:30 a.m. Meet outside Brooks
Field, CSM Stadium, on 12th Street in Golden, and run on one of six or
more different routes in the Golden area. All of the courses allow for
varying lengths (e.g. 6-14+ miles) and paces, depending on the
interests of the runners on that day. For further information contact
Ron Benioff at rnbenioff@... 303-279-6152.

Interested in another weekday or weekend group run? Pick a time and
place, and we'll post it to the group.

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DONATE SHOES
Nicholas Sterner writes
"The AIR Foundation is implementing a running program for the at-risk
youth population at Urban Peak. The running program is supported by a
highly enthusiastic group of Urban Peak's case management and
development staff. If we can get the youth to participate for one
month, Etonic will reward their committment by providing the youth
with new shoes!

The program begins on October 18! Based on the required one-month
participation period, and the shoe delivery period, the youth will be
running for about 6 weeks on whatever used or new running shoes we can
provide.

Urban Peak provides services to youth between the ages of 15 – 24, so
most adult sizes should work out fine. The shoes can be used or new.
Shoe donations can be made by contacting The AIR Foundation directly
or by taking the shoes to Runner's Roost in Lakewood at 437 S.
Wadsworth (just South of Alameda on the West side of Wadsworth)."
www.TheAIRFoundation.Org
720-365-2935

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CARPOOLS
Let us know if you are interested in carpooling to any race or
run in the future. If you send your carpool request – either needing
or offering a ride – by Thursday, we should be able to post it to the
group before the weekend.

Suggested races:
Rim Rock. Several of us are going, and have space in cars and hotel
rooms to share.

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FEATURED RACES
*10/24; Halloween Havoc. A 4-person team, 5-mi, night race, at Bear Creek
Lake Park. (not a relay, everyone runs at the same time. Several DTRs
ran this last year. $15/person or $50/team. Use the link below to
register online, or in-person at Runners Roost, Lakewood.

Colo Masters (CMRA) races. Friendly race atmosphere. Many CMRA members
and race directors are DTR regulars. http://www.comastersrun.org

*11/10; Chatfield 10-Miler. Fun course. Mostly flat, twisty
single-track, a couple of sandy sections. Scott, leader of the 5:30 DTR group,
is the co-race director.

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RACE CALENDAR
*10/24, 7pm; Halloween Havoc; 5mi; Bear Creek Lake Park, Lakewood;
720-963-5633, http://tinyurl.com/2x3nnu
or register in-person at Runners Roost Lakewood; Alameda & Wadsworth,
303-991-1851 http://runnersroostlakewood.com

11/3; Twin Peaks Rotary XC Challenge; 3.5mi; Longmont;
http://www.fallcross.com

11/3-16; Nepal Trek and Trail; ½-marathon and group trek;
http://www.nepaltrekandtrail.com

*11/10; Chatfield 10-Miler; Littleton; http://www.comastersrun.org

11/10; Rim Rock Run; 37km, last year at this distance, changes to a
marathon for `08; Fruita; http://www.rimrockrun.org

11/18; Fall Cross; 6km women, 8km men, childrens fun run; Boulder;
http://www.fallcross.com

Look for a list of snowshoe races in the next few weeks.

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CLINICS & OTHER EVENTS
10/26; Active at Altitude's Trail Running Weekend; Estes Park;
http://www.activeataltitude.com

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OTHER AREA CLUBS AND RUNS, and TRAIL LINKS
Rocky Mountain Road Runners: Weekly training/social runs (Tue-Wash
Park, Wed-Track, Sat-Highline). Monthly race series with a handicap
start and scoring system (free for members, small fee for
non-members). http://www.rmrr.org

Nike Running Club: Tue evening, 5:30pm, 1 hr runs on the Cherry Creek
and Platte bike paths. Meet at the Niketown store, 16th & Glenarm,
downtown Denver. Several DTRs are regulars. (303) 623-6453

Downtown Denver lunch runs: Most weekdays, around noon. Meet outside
the downtown YMCA. Contact Dave via the ERC link.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Lodge/7018/index.html

DTR member Lance Risi has started a running group in Parker. Meet at
the Parker Rec Center, near the swings, on the northwest side of the
building, at 5:30 PM, on Wednesdays. All Runners & Walkers are
welcome. For more info, contact lance_parker_rc@...

Phidippides Track Club: Tue evening track workouts near Cherry Creek
HS. http://www.phidippides.org/

BoulderTrailRunners: Several weekly group runs. FREE.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoulderTrailRunners

Incline Club: Sunday long runs in the Pikes Peak area. Thursday speed
workouts. They stay on lower trails through the winter, then venture
higher up the mountain as the snow clears. Let us know if you are
interested in car-pooling from the Denver area. http://www.inclineclub.com

American Trail Running Association: http://www.trailrunner.com/

Trail Runner Magazine: http://www.trailrunnermag.com

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DISCOUNTS FOR DTRs
Several running/outdoor stores offer discounts to DTR members. Just
mention that you are a member. Discounts usually apply only to
non-sale merchandise. Listing here doesn't guarantee that discounts
will be available. Please verify with the stores:

Runners Roost Lakewood, Alameda & Wadsworth (SW corner), (303)
991-1851, http://www.runnersroostlakewood.com

Boulder Running Company, Wadsworth & Bowles (SE corner), Littleton,
(303) 932-6000, http://www.boulderrunningcompany.com

Bent Gate, 13th & Washington, Golden, 303-271-9382,
http://www.bentgate.com