Pressure on Collins is definitely a top priority on defense. He is definitely not very immobile, so the defensive line knows exactly where he will be standing. We just cannot give him time to get the ball to Moss downfield. We have to make them keep the passes short and in front of the seondary. I also think that it is time for some of the young defensive talent to "begin" to show their stuff. I think Spears and Canty are definitely getting more comfortable in our defensive scheme, but Ware and Burton are not coming along as quickly. I do not expect them to be Hall of Famers today, just begin to be around the ball more often in the game, if you know what I mean.
manuel abud <mabudoc@...> wrote:
Parcells has his mind set on this season, he really doesnīt care for next year, for the moment. He said itīs the first time since heīs been with the cowboys that he expects to win, so letīs forget about that QB thing for now, thereīs no draft coming soon, letīs talk about next game, itīll be a tough one. I i see it, we could esaily be 0-3 or 3-0, instead, we are 2-1 with two very tough games coming up!!! I don't really see our secondary stopping Randy Moss or the TO. I thing the OL will have to make a better job on getting to Collins, and i see a lot more of blitzes, so they don't have much time to throw the ball.
Bluesman <idluv2turnuon@...> wrote:
It's true he has drafted QB's..but he was much younger then..he is like 64 or something. If he is successful this year..deep in the playoffs..with nothing but good things for the next year then he may want to do that..but I still say he will get a veteran in here to back up Bledsoe..they need to cut their losses with Henson and keep Romo for now.
Ron
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
I think leak could be a late first or second round pick, and since Bledsoe has a short term deal you could let him sit on the bench for a year. Don't forget that he drafted Pennington so he will draft a young QB on some occasions. Does anyone know if he drafted Phil Simms?
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
SAN JOSE, Calif. - The Cowboys patience with deep snapper Jon Condo
has run out after just three games, releasing the rookie and signing
another, L. P. Ladouceur, a French-Canadian who played his college
football at nearby Cal and went to training camp this summer withy the
New Orleans Saints.
After a brief workout prior to Wednesday's practice here at San Jose
State University, the Cowboys signed Ladouceur on the spot and then
informed Condo he would not be dressing for practice. There is,
though, a possibility Condo will land on the practice squad, providing
he clears waivers on Thursday.
Ladouceur also was a backup defensive end at Cal, and seemingly would
have the ability to play more on special teams than just deep snap
since he is 6-4, 257. He was an academic honorable mention Pac-10
selection in 2004.
The move, though, comes as little surprise, since on Monday Cowboys
head coach Bill Parcells expressed his concerns with Condo's snapping.
He short-hopped a couple of deep snaps to punter Mat McBriar in the
past two games and then, of course, had the short snap against San
Francisco after the first touchdown, costing the Cowboys the extra point.
When asked Monday if he was losing his patience with the rookie free
agent from Maryland, Parcells said, "I am getting close. It's got to
get better from here. If it doesn't get better we are going to have to
do something. There is no question about that."
He went on to say he did have a recourse, and for now, that recourse
seems to be one Louis-Philippe Ladouceur.
Parcells has his mind set on this season, he really doesnīt care for next year, for the moment. He said itīs the first time since heīs been with the cowboys that he expects to win, so letīs forget about that QB thing for now, thereīs no draft coming soon, letīs talk about next game, itīll be a tough one. I i see it, we could esaily be 0-3 or 3-0, instead, we are 2-1 with two very tough games coming up!!! I don't really see our secondary stopping Randy Moss or the TO. I thing the OL will have to make a better job on getting to Collins, and i see a lot more of blitzes, so they don't have much time to throw the ball.
Bluesman <idluv2turnuon@...> wrote:
It's true he has drafted QB's..but he was much younger then..he is like 64 or something. If he is successful this year..deep in the playoffs..with nothing but good things for the next year then he may want to do that..but I still say he will get a veteran in here to back up Bledsoe..they need to cut their losses with Henson and keep Romo for now.
Ron
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
I think leak could be a late first or second round pick, and since Bledsoe has a short term deal you could let him sit on the bench for a year. Don't forget that he drafted Pennington so he will draft a young QB on some occasions. Does anyone know if he drafted Phil Simms?
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
It's true he has drafted QB's..but he was much younger then..he is like 64 or something. If he is successful this year..deep in the playoffs..with nothing but good things for the next year then he may want to do that..but I still say he will get a veteran in here to back up Bledsoe..they need to cut their losses with Henson and keep Romo for now.
Ron
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
I think leak could be a late first or second round pick, and since Bledsoe has a short term deal you could let him sit on the bench for a year. Don't forget that he drafted Pennington so he will draft a young QB on some occasions. Does anyone know if he drafted Phil Simms?
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
I think leak could be a late first or second round pick, and since Bledsoe has a short term deal you could let him sit on the bench for a year. Don't forget that he drafted Pennington so he will draft a young QB on some occasions. Does anyone know if he drafted Phil Simms?
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
I agree with you Sam..I said this earlier that as long as Parcells is coach and with the time he has left here, he will bring in a veteran to back up Bledsoe..He does not have to time to mold a young rookie quarterback..he wants to win while he has the time.
Ron
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
The very desperate New York Jets have resigned Vinny Testeverde after losing Chad Pennington for the season and with Jay Fiedler injured are now down to starting their 3rd string QB.
You are right that the secondary has been hit with big plays and I think Henry in particular had a bad game against San Francisco. Having said that though, I think we have left our cornerbacks exposed for two long and I think that the overall problem with the defense giving up big plays comes back to the same problem we have had for the last several years since Haley retired. A lack of a consistent, strong, effective pass rush allows receivers to get to far downfield. We get the occassional sack, but way to many times the qb has the time to sit back and wait for his receiver to get open deep downfield. A good pass rush cuts down the time that the qb has to wait for that receiver to come open on deep routes. Our front 7 should be able to get right in the qb's face right after the snap a lot more often they have been so far. Part of that is the learning curve for our new defense and rookies. They have to start
stepping to the plate or we will keep giving up deep routes occassionaly.
ronald_ragland <cmb23tnq@...> wrote:
With facing the caliber of dangerous WRs in the next two weeks the likes of Moss and TO respectively, the Cowboys desperately need to improve their defensive secondary or they'll get blown out.
GO COWBOYS!!!
Rags
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I think that ya'll are right about drafting a young qb with starting potential, but are the ones you mentioned going to be available this year after we draft a wide receiver in the first round, a free safety in the second round, and then a right tackleguard) in the third round. That is the holes I see in us for the immediate future(our starting wide receivers and guards are not getting any younger). The exception is the right tackle because our current rookie seems to be playing well there right now and we probably should draft the best guard available because both Allen and Rivera are not getting any younger, Guorde has already failed at right guard and we only have Peterman with the potential to be a starter. Peterman will probably get a chance to be a starter once either Allen or Rivera retire. We should send Romo and Henson to NFL Europe to get some game experience this year and bring in a veteran backup. Then, at the end
of training camp, keep Bledsoe, whomever plays better of Romo and Henson, and the rookie that we draft for a total of three. This next draft92006) would defintely be a good year to bring in a potential rookie qb if Bledsoe and this offense continue to grow, because we have Bledsoe for at least 2 more years.
I think that we should only draft a college qb that really has all the tools to be a successful NFL qb, no more projects. We have two many of those in the last few years already.
Also, do we have multiple picks in any of the first 3 rounds because? Does anybody have a list of all the Div 1A school quarterbacks that are graduating this year. I know Leinart(USC), and Young(Texas) are, but who else besides the ones you mentioned already are graduating?
Just rambling thoughts this morning. I definitely like the offensive potential I see so far and waiting for the defense to become comfortable in the new scheme.
Sam of Florida
Coop <coop1974a@...> wrote:
Haven't had a chance to see him but what about Chris Leak at Florida I've been watching him a lot an really think he has a lot of potential.
ben konobi <bufsoldier75@...> wrote:
Get him, drop the experiment known as Henson and groom Romo.
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
FREMONT, Calif. - All of the Cowboys' games this season have been decided in the final three minutes.
Much to coach Bill Parcells' chagrin.
"Listen, if you're involved in too many of those, the law of averages does catch up with you," he noted Monday after watching film of his team's improbable, 34-31, come-from-behind victory against San Francisco.
But Parcells, better than anybody, realizes the 2-1 Cowboys could just as easily be 1-2 or 0-3.
"There are a couple of areas we are seemingly improving in," he said, "and a couple of things we're doing that should we not get those corrected, at least partially, it is going to cost us games."
And then, to bang home his point, he began enumerating what exactly those offending parts were. The list was long, varied and, if not addressed, has the potential of hurting the Cowboys' playoff chances.
FULL REPORT | 8D
Areas the Cowboys must improve
A SECONDARY VULNERABLE TO BIG PLAYS.
Giving up touchdowns of 89, 70 and 39 yards in the past two games is worrisome.
A KICKING GAME THAT IS SOMETHING LESS THAN AUTOMATIC.
Good teams do not miss extra points. Period.
AN INCONSISTENT PASS RUSH.
Sometimes, they get there. A lot of times, they don't.
ROOKIE DEMARCUS WARE.
The Cowboys need more from their top draft pick.
MENTAL MISTAKES FROM YOUNG PLAYERS.
Patrick Crayton, Tyson Thompson and Keith Davis earned coach Bill Parcells' ire on Monday.
MENTAL MISTAKES FROM PARCELLS.
Even he admits the fake punt was a bad idea.
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Parcells and Pro Bowl guard Larry Allen haven't had the most consistent relationship over the last few years, feuding a bit in 2003 over Allen's conditioning, among other things. In fact, Allen was nearly traded before the 2004 season, and then this summer, the coach held him out of the first three days of training camp for failing the team's mandatory conditioning run.
But that doesn't mean Parcells can't have a little fun, even at Allen's expense.
After admitting he completely missed the shoving incident involving Allen and Jose Cortez after the kicker missed an extra point, Parcells said he finally saw the footage late Sunday night.
"What I told him was, 'It was sure lucky (Jason) Witten came over and pulled that guy off of you,'" Parcells said to Allen. '"Witten came over and got him away from you. I'd hate to have seen you. You were about ready to go down.' We had a little fun with that."
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Parcells has made it clear he is not completely comfortable with Cortez as his kicker, which certainly didn't change Sunday with the missed extra point.
But the coach placed the blame more on rookie snapper Jon Condo, who had two other low snaps to punter Mat McBriar Sunday, along with another low snap last week against the Redskins.
And it's safe to assume Condo is now on a short leash, Parcells claiming the deep snapping position has very little room for error.
"I don't know what's going on," Parcells said about Condo's case of inaccuracy. "He snapped very well in the preseason. This is a mechanical job. You have to able to execute the mechanics of this job. It's a zero tolerance thing is the best way I can put it. It requires perfection or almost perfection. If you can't come close enough to that things are going to change."
So is Parcells nearing the point of making that change?
"I am getting close. It's got to get better from here," he said. "If it doesn't get better we are going to have to do something. There is no question about that."
If needed, Parcells said he already has a contingency plan in mind, and that does not include a player already on the team
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
With facing the caliber of dangerous WRs in the next two weeks the
likes of Moss and TO respectively, the Cowboys desperately need to
improve their defensive secondary or they'll get blown out.
GO COWBOYS!!!
Rags
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
As long as Parcells is here i don't think the focus will be to get a top quarterback from college..unless we have a high enough draft pick to warrant it. So be looking for him to get another veteran in camp
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas =========================================================================
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:15:28 -0000
From: "danderson692001" <danderson692001@...>
Subject: QB;
hello all we need to get a QB for the future how bout Drew Stanton on
MIch. ST completion rate of just over 70% give me your ideas
=========================================================================
So we can have every quarterback named Drew? ;-)
If the kicker could have got the 3 points against Washington in the
begining of the game they would have won. Thanks to Jose Cortez the
Cowboys could be 3-0 right now. Against the 49ers the cowboys had the
same problem granted the kicker wasn't the only one that missed the
kick considering they had trouble getting the ball off to be kicked.
If Dallas could get a kicker before the end of the yr. that would take
alot of stress away for us Cowboys fans. THANKS TO KEYSHAWN JOHNSON
the cowboys didn't need the kicker at the end of the game he got 2
points! What a win against the 49ers! Dallas, Washington, Phili, and
Giants are all tied as of right now!!!Dallas is still in this thing I
hope they can win against the Raiders and be 3-1. Thats going to be a
tough game I'm crossing my fingers what a tough div......and just
think if we would have won against Washington we'd be 3-0 right now. I
hope the Cowboys defense are getting it together now that they are
over that shocking loss against Washington.Raiders will be tough I
hope we can win.
-Matt
I'm not sure how the Boys will bounce back after such a tough loss to the Skins. The ground game has really yet to fully materialize consistently. And other than a trick play the deep ball is almost nonexistent. No telling which Niner team will show up today and that's kinda scary. If the Dallas Defense plays like it did last week but for 4 full quarters this time then I don't see why the Boys shouldn't come away with a victory.
Yes but another nice comback by Drew, who passed Montana for all time
yards..and the defense bent but didn't break and thats cool..
Ron
the Boys need a LOT of work on defense because up next is Randy Moss
which could prove to be a long day for Roy Williams and Co.
>
> Sam
Ok...so today the Dallas Defense decided NOT to show up even for 1 quarter but thank goodness the offense did. Other than that fluke interception Bledsoe threw and that horrible fake punt call, the offense did themselves proud today. I agree that the defense will need some extra reps in the tackling department this week...soooo many missed tackles. The missed extra point was not the kicker's fault...so who volunteers to go tell Larry Allen he owes the kicker an apology. LOL.
Good game but the Boys need a LOT of work on defense because up next is Randy Moss which could prove to be a long day for Roy Williams and Co.
I'm not sure how the Boys will bounce back after such a tough loss to the Skins. The ground game has really yet to fully materialize consistently. And other than a trick play the deep ball is almost nonexistent. No telling which Niner team will show up today and that's kinda scary. If the Dallas Defense plays like it did last week but for 4 full quarters this time then I don't see why the Boys shouldn't come away with a victory.
I think you are begining to hit the nail on the head about us not
having an offensive philosophy that goes for the jugular. I think
to go along with that thought is this, we play not to lose on
offense. In other words, we run only "safe plays" 95 % of the
time. The type of plays I am talking about are lots of runs between
the tackles and lots of very short, quick passes. These type of
plays do not result in a lot of turnovers by us, but they also make
it very diffucult to sustain long drives. We need an offensive
philosophy that puts more of our skill players(Jones, Thompson, and
Glenn) in "space"(a place in the opposing defense where our skill
player can make a big play by only having to dodge a defender or
two). That means more sweeps(as an example) by Jones and Thompson
so that they have a chance to beat a defender on the edge of the
defense instead of always running through the tackles where the
majority of the defense is. With Glenn, we need to run more
crossing routes in the 15 - 20 yard range(as an example). Both of
these concepts may result in a few more turnovers, but they also
will result in our skill playes being in space and able to make more
plays. I think our offensive players have plenty of confidence in
themselves, I think the problems with our offense are a direct
result of our head coaches philosophy about the offense not losing
the game. This philosophy does not put us in a position to win
games by constantly pushing ourselves to score. This philosophy
also inhibits our offense from knowing how to score when they have
to to win the game(last game as an example). I think our offensive
philosophy should be how can we constantly put our skill players in
position to win the game, not just once or twice a game.
On another thought though, it was nice to see the offensive line not
give up any sacks. That is an improvement.
Sam in Florida
--- In Dallas_Cowboys_Americas_Team@yahoogroups.com, David Seward
<bigdsew@y...> wrote:
> I have to agree, something is missing from the offense and I think
it's the killer instinct we used to have. I think this offense
lacks confidence in itself, or maybe the coaching staff lacks
confidence in the offense to trust it to go out and win a game. Why
was Tyson Thompson rushing when we got inside the 40. The coaches
gave up on that drive and settled for a field goal. You've got,
Keyshawn, Glenn, Crayton, Price & Witten and you run the ball?
Jimmy would have gone for the jugular and I think that's what is
missing.
>
> Sam H <mmm703ret@y...> wrote:I watched most of the game last night
too. I think our defense will continue to improve. I agree with
your comments about the Redskins defense. I think in watching both
games now(and thinking about last night's game) that something is
amiss in our offense. I cannot quite put my finger on it yet. It
just seems that we should "accidently" score 17 - 21 points a game.
We have plenty of offensive skill players capable of scoring. We
scored 28 on San Diego, but San Diego had two defensive penalties
that kept two of our scoring drives going in that game, otherwise we
only score 14 points. I am not that confident in our offensive game
plans and our offensive execution. I have watched a lot of games
over the years. Most of the years I can remember going into any
game, that I knew we were going to score at least 24 - 28 points and
when we played a really good defense, we would only score 17 - 21,
but still won the game because our defense only
> would give up 14. To me it is inexcusable to lose with our
offensive skill players when our defense only gives up 14 points.
Before Parcells got here we had an offense that averaged 14 points a
game. 3 years into the Parcells era, we still are only scoring 14
points a game. If we average 28 points a game, we win. If we
average 14 points a game, we lose.
> Just rambling. Trying to make sense of another low scoring game
even if the other team plays good defense, we have played good
defenses in the past and still scored more than 13 points.
> I really hope this was just a growing pain type of game for a team
that is still trying to learn to play together on both sides of the
ball.
>
> The other Sam in Florida
>
> Sam <ssalas04@y...> wrote:
> As painful as it was to watch the game get away from the Cowboys,
I had to give credit to both the Redskins defense which played a
great game for 4 quarters and never let Julius Jones get untracked
and also to Joe Gibbs. Yesterday I felt that if the Skins were still
in it midway through the 3rd quarter he would find a way to pull it
out. As the announcers pointed out, he never panicked and saw a
weakness in Aaron Glenn and exploited it. It's not that the Dallas
coaches wouldn't call any plays deep, it's that the Skins defense
were shutting everything down and forced Bledsoe to throw dump
passes underneath. Except for the fleaflicker, their defense matched
the Dallas defense blow for blow.
>
> I agree that the holding calls on Adams were phantom holds but you
can't cry over that. The Boys needed to put up more points and they
failed to do so. It was a great defensive struggle. As I said
yesterday, I'm still not convinced Bledsoe will lead the Boys to the
playoffs but as long as the Dallas defense can keep them in the game
there's always a chance.
>
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We NEED a new kicker. This was Dallas's chance to take the div. The
Eagles lost to the Falcons this would have made a BIG impact. I also
believe it was the Cowboy's chance to prove they were a big player.
Alot of people are saying the Giants are no match for Dallas I think
they looked REALLY good against the Saints and if Eli keeps playing
like that what a mess this year can be for Dallas. This was a HUGE
lose because it was a division lose. I hope they can win against
Giants and Phili.
-Matt
PS
What a shame Dallas wasn't in Chicago's div. then I would have no
worries.lol
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> People seem to forget that Cortez is the same guy that was missing
extra points in San Fran.
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> David Seward <bigdsew@y...> wrote:I'm not gonna carry Cundiff's jock
for him but he was a helluva lot more accurate from 41 than I've seen
Cortez be so far.
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> Patrick Schuster <canes612@a...> wrote: Yeah so he could missed all
three kicks instead of one. Cundiff was good from 30 yards in.
Please we need a real kicker and Billy "Haley Joel" Cundiff isn't one.
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> Let know one forget who we were really missing last night. It sure
would have been nice to have Cundiff back there kicking that 41 yarder.
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> Sam <ssalas04@y...> wrote: As painful as it was to watch the game
get away from the Cowboys, I had to give credit to both the Redskins
defense which played a great game for 4 quarters and never let Julius
Jones get untracked and also to Joe Gibbs. Yesterday I felt that if
the Skins were still in it midway through the 3rd quarter he would
find a way to pull it out. As the announcers pointed out, he never
panicked and saw a weakness in Aaron Glenn and exploited it. It's not
that the Dallas coaches wouldn't call any plays deep, it's that the
Skins defense were shutting everything down and forced Bledsoe to
throw dump passes underneath. Except for the fleaflicker, their
defense matched the Dallas defense blow for blow.
>
> I agree that the holding calls on Adams were phantom holds but you
can't cry over that. The Boys needed to put up more points and they
failed to do so. It was a great defensive struggle. As I said
yesterday, I'm still not convinced Bledsoe will lead the Boys to the
playoffs but as long as the Dallas defense can keep them in the game
there's always a chance.
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Roy Williams did have a good overall game..but I think Brunell was
pissed because of that hard sack by Roy..and vowed to go deep after
that and had the last laugh..and whats worse..Roy should have ended
things but let an interception in the endzone go through his hands.
Ron
Roy Williams!!!!!!! A Pro-Bowl player, an impact player was burned
twice in less than 2 minutes!!! I don't know what he was thinking on
that second play,
People seem to forget that Cortez is the same guy that was missing extra points in San Fran.
David Seward <bigdsew@...> wrote:
I'm not gonna carry Cundiff's jock for him but he was a helluva lot more accurate from 41 than I've seen Cortez be so far.
Patrick Schuster <canes612@...> wrote:
Yeah so he could missed all three kicks instead of one. Cundiff was good from 30 yards in. Please we need a real kicker and Billy "Haley Joel" Cundiff isn't one.
As painful as it was to watch the game get away from the Cowboys, I had to give credit to both the Redskins defense which played a great game for 4 quarters and never let Julius Jones get untracked and also to Joe Gibbs. Yesterday I felt that if the Skins were still in it midway through the 3rd quarter he would find a way to pull it out. As the announcers pointed out, he never panicked and saw a weakness in Aaron Glenn and exploited it. It's not that the Dallas coaches wouldn't call any plays deep, it's that the Skins defense were shutting everything down and forced Bledsoe to throw dump passes underneath. Except for the fleaflicker, their defense matched the Dallas defense blow for blow.
I agree that the holding calls on Adams were phantom holds but you can't cry over that. The Boys needed to put up more points and they failed to do so. It was a great defensive struggle. As I said yesterday, I'm still not convinced Bledsoe will lead the Boys to the playoffs but as long as the Dallas defense can keep them in the game there's always a chance.
An there is also one thing that JJ is missing because for some reason he seems to get tripped up in the hole alot. that has happen to him on several occasions he''ll just a step away from a big run an down he goes. That just doesn't happen to the great ones.
David Seward <bigdsew@...> wrote:
I have to agree, something is missing from the offense and I think it's the killer instinct we used to have. I think this offense lacks confidence in itself, or maybe the coaching staff lacks confidence in the offense to trust it to go out and win a game. Why was Tyson Thompson rushing when we got inside the 40. The coaches gave up on that drive and settled for a field goal. You've got, Keyshawn, Glenn, Crayton, Price & Witten and you run the ball? Jimmy would have gone for the jugular and I think that's what is missing.
Sam H <mmm703ret@...> wrote:
I watched most of the game last night too. I think our defense will continue to improve. I agree with your comments about the Redskins defense. I think in watching both games now(and thinking about last night's game) that something is amiss in our offense. I cannot quite put my finger on it yet. It just seems that we should "accidently" score 17 - 21 points a game. We have plenty of offensive skill players capable of scoring. We scored 28 on San Diego, but San Diego had two defensive penalties that kept two of our scoring drives going in that game, otherwise we only score 14 points. I am not that confident in our offensive game plans and our offensive execution. I have watched a lot of games over the years. Most of the years I can remember going into any game, that I knew we were going to score at least 24 - 28 points and when we played a really good defense, we would only score
17 - 21, but still won the game because our defense only would give up 14. To me it is inexcusable to lose with our offensive skill players when our defense only gives up 14 points. Before Parcells got here we had an offense that averaged 14 points a game. 3 years into the Parcells era, we still are only scoring 14 points a game. If we average 28 points a game, we win. If we average 14 points a game, we lose.
Just rambling. Trying to make sense of another low scoring game even if the other team plays good defense, we have played good defenses in the past and still scored more than 13 points.
I really hope this was just a growing pain type of game for a team that is still trying to learn to play together on both sides of the ball.
The other Sam in Florida
Sam <ssalas04@...> wrote:
As painful as it was to watch the game get away from the Cowboys, I had to give credit to both the Redskins defense which played a great game for 4 quarters and never let Julius Jones get untracked and also to Joe Gibbs. Yesterday I felt that if the Skins were still in it midway through the 3rd quarter he would find a way to pull it out. As the announcers pointed out, he never panicked and saw a weakness in Aaron Glenn and exploited it. It's not that the Dallas coaches wouldn't call any plays deep, it's that the Skins defense were shutting everything down and forced Bledsoe to throw dump passes underneath. Except for the fleaflicker, their defense matched the Dallas defense blow for blow.
I agree that the holding calls on Adams were phantom holds but you can't cry over that. The Boys needed to put up more points and they failed to do so. It was a great defensive struggle. As I said yesterday, I'm still not convinced Bledsoe will lead the Boys to the playoffs but as long as the Dallas defense can keep them in the game there's always a chance.
I'm not gonna carry Cundiff's jock for him but he was a helluva lot more accurate from 41 than I've seen Cortez be so far.
Patrick Schuster <canes612@...> wrote:
Yeah so he could missed all three kicks instead of one. Cundiff was good from 30 yards in. Please we need a real kicker and Billy "Haley Joel" Cundiff isn't one.
As painful as it was to watch the game get away from the Cowboys, I had to give credit to both the Redskins defense which played a great game for 4 quarters and never let Julius Jones get untracked and also to Joe Gibbs. Yesterday I felt that if the Skins were still in it midway through the 3rd quarter he would find a way to pull it out. As the announcers pointed out, he never panicked and saw a weakness in Aaron Glenn and exploited it. It's not that the Dallas coaches wouldn't call any plays deep, it's that the Skins defense were shutting everything down and forced Bledsoe to throw dump passes underneath. Except for the fleaflicker, their defense matched the Dallas defense blow for blow.
I agree that the holding calls on Adams were phantom holds but you can't cry over that. The Boys needed to put up more points and they failed to do so. It was a great defensive struggle. As I said yesterday, I'm still not convinced Bledsoe will lead the Boys to the playoffs but as long as the Dallas defense can keep them in the game there's always a chance.