Thank you. But I think this still completely misses my point.

I am not concerned about the trigger nor the action. I owned a P95
before, I liked it, I want another one (and besides, my previous P95
was a DA-ONLY).

Now, what I am looking for is data concerning the P95 only, and
nothing else.

At the time it was introduced the frame was constructed with a
new-fangled long strand fiberglass polymer. After ten plus years of
production how has that material held up under real world conditions?

Some people complain about loose parts on new guns (P95). How does it
hold up? Does it fall apart? What is it's life expectancy?

Also, any stories out there of a P95 being used in a real defensive
situation?

That's the kinda stuff I'm looking for. And on a side note yes I
realize that striker fired is the wave of the future and is probably
better than DA (which MIGHT make me consider the Ruger SR9 instead).

Thank you again,
Dave H

PS: A Lorcin is the equivalent of a Ford Pinto, not a Ruger......




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--- In Combat-Handgun@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rehn <rehn@...> wrote:
>
>
> >I don't believe in carrying what everyone else is carrying simply
> >because that's what they do.
>
> I think it's important to look at trends & data, particularly with
> equipment choices that the most serious users and peak performers make.
> Those that think about guns and shooting full time tend to have more
> well developed opinions than gun writers (who love every gun they
> review) and "average" gun owners.
>
> >After more than a decade there are huge numbers of them on the
> streets and in homes in the hands of regular Joe's like me.
> The Ford Pinto was a big seller too. Sometimes (most of the time)
> price is a big factor in gun selection - much more than whether the
> gun's design makes it easier to shoot.
>
> Here are some good articles on the relationship between equipment and
> performance in real shootings:
>
> http://www.ghostinc.com/category/.1triggerweight/ - article
> referencing several law enforcement articles supporting the concept
> that long heavy trigger pulls do not help you win gunfights.
>
> http://www.gunsmagazine.com/Features/0608/Ftr0608.html - explains
> that LAPD SIS unit has the best gunfight hit ratio. They carry 1911's.
>
> >What I was asking was how has the actually range/street performance of
> >the P95 been after more than ten years of production? (more than
> >enough time to collect data). I want stories of dead perps shot with
> >P95s, I want to know how well it pointed in a real situation.
>
> Tom Givens, who runs Rangemaster in Memphis, TN (also used to teach
> at Gunsite under Col. Cooper), had 7 students involved in real
> shootings in the past 2 years.
> They fired 29 rounds and hit with 28 of them. Hit ratio of 96%.
> I attended Tom's presentation on this data earlier this year at a
> training conference.
> Like me and most every other private sector firearms trainer, Tom
> advocates carrying a gun with the same trigger pull for every shot,
> preferably a trigger pull under 6 lbs with a short distance of
> travel, specifically Glock and 1911 style handguns.
>
> Is this conclusive? No. You cannot separate performance of the
> individual from performance of the gun or the caliber or the load
> when you study gunfight data.
> Training, skill and level of panic all affect the outcome as much or
> more than equipment.
> Unless you can find data where all other variables except the gun
> used are equal, any analysis of gunfight data is basically worthless
> for isolating whether one model works better than others.
>
> Even the LAPD vs NYPD comparisons lump in all the variables: type of
> training, frequency of training, and equipment across big agencies.
>
> Shooting competition results are more likely to show you whether a
> given type of gun outperforms another.
>
> Karl
>