Cory,
That is a good question. We have a five inch thick looseleaf book
entitled "General Orders". Up until approximately 18 months ago, we
were allowed back-up guns as long as we qualified with them, which I
always did. When the new General Orders came out, it forbid the
carrying of back-up weapons or the use of any ammunition while on
duty that was not department issue. Since the department issues 3
magazines with each Glock 22, and issues only the Hydra-Shok, Hydra-
Shok is the ammo that we have to use even if it is used to put down a
rabid racoon. No other ammo is allowed. Generally, when a deer is
hit, it is on the roadway, and upon arrival, the overhead lights go
on to protect the officer; this also activates the camera and no one
is willing to take the chance of being video-taped violating
department policy since no one is allowed to carry a back-up. I even
had to get written permission to carry the Leatherman tool since it
has a knife blade on it! Sorry that the explaination got so long-
winded.
Stay safe
Steve
--- In Combat-Handgun@yahoogroups.com, "Cory Lewis" <cory340@h...>
wrote:
> Why not just carry a magazine of cheap stuff in the trunk for
putting down
> animals and such? Just curious.
>
>
> >From: "wisecop065" <wisecop065@y...>
> >Reply-To: Combat-Handgun@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Combat-Handgun@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Combat-Handgun] Re: MagSafe Ammo
> >Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:43:20 -0000
> >
> >Karl,
> >I don't have any first-hand experience with eithe Mag-Safe or
Glaser
> >ammo, but the one thing I am certain of is that the cost would
> >prohibit most, if not all agencies, from issuing it. We use 155gr
> >Hydra-Shok in .40S&W and I am issued one box of 50 per year. If I
> >end up putting down injured animals too frequently (more than 4 per
> >year, the LT in charge of firearms training cries about the cost of
> >the rounds; I can just imagine if they cost approximately $1.50 per
> >round. From what I have read (again no first-hand experience), the
> >frangible rounds might be good for a full frontal shot but would
lack
> >penetration on an angled shot which is probably a more realistic
> >scenario.
> >Stay safe
> >Steve
> >never forgive or forget 9/11/2001
> > and --- In Combat-Handgun@yahoogroups.com, Karl Rehn <rehn@k...>
> >wrote:
> > > >Any experience on MAgSafe ammo or performance data for
the .40 ?
> > >
> > > MagSafe's primary marketing appears to be based on the infamous
> > > Strasbourg "goat tests". Considering that there's never been a
> > > report released or any reputable person stand up to confirm that
> > > these tests actually occurred, I'd be slow to make any decision
> >about
> > > self-defense ammo based solely on those test results.
> > >
> > > If frangible ammo was ideal for self-defense, at least _one_
local,
> > > state or federal law enforcement agency would select it as their
> > > primary type of carry ammo.
> > >
> > > If frangible ammo was ideal for self-defense, at least _one_
> > > professional trainer would recommend it as the #1 choice for
carry
> > > ammo.
> > >
> > > If you absolutely feel compelled to carry it, buy enough that
you
> >can
> > > run at least 100 rounds of it through your gun to find out
whether
> >it
> > > will feed properly or not. As I've posted here before, each
model
> >of
> > > gun is designed for the standard ammo in that caliber (bullet
> >weight,
> > > overall length, powder charge, etc.). Straying too far from
those
> > > values is a good way to induce malfunctions. That's basic
> >engineering.
> > >
> > > My theory on experimental, "sounds too good to be true" self-
> >defense
> > > pistol ammo is generally to let somebody else be the guinea pig.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Karl
> > > rehn@k...
> > > http://www.krtraining.com
> >
>
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