Veteran guard to sign four-year contract
By Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com


The toll road that leads from Foxboro to
Cleveland, where former New England Patriots
defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel is the new
coach, is officially open for business.

In Crennel's first free agency signing period as
Browns coach, ESPN.com has learned that veteran
guard Joe Andruzzi, who started all but three
games for New England during its run of three
Super Bowl titles in four seasons, has defected
to Cleveland as an unrestricted free agent.

Andruzzi, the first Patriot to leave to play for
Crennel, agreed Wednesday to a four-year, $9
million contract. The deal will be signed later
this week.

By acquiring Andruzzi, the Browns have begun the
refurbishing of one of the NFL's worst offensive
lines. At the combine last week in Indianapolis,
first-year general manager Phil Savage used the
term "dire straits" to describe the state of the
Browns' interior line.

Even with the addition of Andruzzi, who was a
stabilizer on New England's blocking unit when it
suffered through injuries, Cleveland will
continue to pursue veteran offensive linemen.

Andruzzi, 29, began his career as an undrafted
free agent with the Green Bay Packers in 1997.
The former Southern Connecticut State player was
signed by New England in 2000, after the Packers
released him.

A tough in-line blocker and good pass protector,
Andruzzi has started in 76 of his 95 career
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Crennel accepts offer from Browns
By Pat McManamon, Editor
February 6, 2005


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - It appears the Browns
finally have their new head coach.

The Browns offered the job to New England
defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel shortly after
Super Bowl XXXIX and he accepted.

Negotiations between the Browns and Crennel's
agent, Joe Linta, were to begin Monday at the
team's Berea, Ohio, facility.

The Browns hope to announce Crennel's hiring on
Tuesday or Wednesday, and then let him start
building a staff.

Crennel earned the offer with an impressive
interview with Browns owner Randy Lerner, team
president John Collins, and general manager Phil
Savage on Jan. 7.

"I put my best foot forward," Crennel said on
Super Bowl Media Day on Tuesday. "If their
impression was that I floored them, then that's
great."

Crennel's message?

"That I'm a capable individual and I can handle
the job," he said.

Crennel would replace Butch Davis, who resigned
in November. Crennel has been the Patriots'
defensive coordinator since 2001 and has played a
key role in New England appearing in three of the
last four Super Bowl titles.

He worked for the Browns as defensive coordinator
in 2000, and previously worked as special teams
and defensive line coach for Bill Parcells in New
York and New England. The Giants twice won Super
Bowls with Crennel as an assistant coach.

Crennel said he brings "a certain amount of NFL
winning experience" to a team.

"I've coached special teams, defensive line, been
a coordinator and been successful at all those
positions," he said. "Being able to deal with
players - I can deal with people, the media and
the whole bit. I think you will see that I can
handle myself, handle players and handle the
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ha ha ha,,, yeah i kinda figured that, however... there just may be
some relation. i wouldn't risk it.
--- In ClevelandBrownsClub@yahoogroups.com, jay and megan dresselhaus
<jayandmegan03@y...> wrote:
>
> hell no i dont fish with my browns shirts on ...that might bring me
bad luck.......( joke, joke)
>
> Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@y...> wrote:
> 2059? Let me see, I won't remember that one either... I'll be 98.
> And, personally, I think he does hate Cleveland. I could sit hear
and
> give examples ALL day, but I have a million things to do. Do you
fly-
> fish with your Browns shirt on? Not much of a fisherman myself but
I
> do love to ski (snow, not water) and it would take about 4 or 5
Super
> Bowls in a row to make up for my agony... I think Dactar knows what
I
> mean.
>
> jayandmegan03@y...> wrote:
>
> God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always try and keep one
anthem
> in my head in my daily life and in my more leisurely pursuits ,
> namely fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports fanatic:
> everything in life worth having is something worth working
> for ! .....with that attitude in mind when the browns finally win
the
> big one in 2059 it will be that much sweeter for all the years of
> heartache and embaressment
>
> Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@y...> wrote:
> I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
> Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it.
All
> I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
> to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
> Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
> endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
> have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
> flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
> take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
> reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
> Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.
>
>
>
>
>
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hell no i dont fish with my browns shirts on ...that might bring me bad
luck.......( joke, joke)

Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@...> wrote:
2059? Let me see, I won't remember that one either... I'll be 98.
And, personally, I think he does hate Cleveland. I could sit hear and
give examples ALL day, but I have a million things to do. Do you fly-
fish with your Browns shirt on? Not much of a fisherman myself but I
do love to ski (snow, not water) and it would take about 4 or 5 Super
Bowls in a row to make up for my agony... I think Dactar knows what I
mean.

jayandmegan03@y...> wrote:

God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always try and keep one anthem
in my head in my daily life and in my more leisurely pursuits ,
namely fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports fanatic:
everything in life worth having is something worth working
for ! .....with that attitude in mind when the browns finally win the
big one in 2059 it will be that much sweeter for all the years of
heartache and embaressment

Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@y...> wrote:
I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it. All
I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
maybe next year.






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LOL i aint got til 2059 either but  maybe ill enjoy it from heaven

dactar <dactar@...> wrote:  Some folks ain't got til 2059...
--- jay and megan dresselhaus
<jayandmegan03@...> wrote:

>
> God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always
> try and keep one anthem in my head in my daily
> life and in my more leisurely pursuits , namely
> fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports
> fanatic: everything in life worth having is
> something worth working for ! .....with that
> attitude in mind when the browns finally win
> the big one in 2059 it will be that much
> sweeter for all the years of heartache and
> embaressment
>
> Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@...> wrote:
> I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was
> a fetus. Our last
> Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I
> don't remember it. All
> I want before I die is to see a coach wearing
> brown/orange to smile
> to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent
> Stanley Cup, no wait...
> Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and
> anguish us Browns fans
> endure cannot be measured by any means yet
> known to mankind. Now we
> have a beer company thinking they're cute by
> having referees throw
> flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know
> how much more I can
> take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's
> soup-can warming-up mom
> reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK
> in the super bowl)
> Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES
> HATE CLEVELAND.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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d
--- KennyMac <killmodell@...>
wrote:

> I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
>
> All aboard the pain train...
>
> kmac
>
>
>
> Herman Hilton Jr says:
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.
>

here not hear... ha ha ha, haven't had my coffe yet...
--- In ClevelandBrownsClub@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Hilton Jr"
<hermhilton@y...> wrote:
>
> 2059? Let me see, I won't remember that one either... I'll be 98.
> And, personally, I think he does hate Cleveland. I could sit hear
and
> give examples ALL day, but I have a million things to do. Do you
fly-
> fish with your Browns shirt on? Not much of a fisherman myself but
I
> do love to ski (snow, not water) and it would take about 4 or 5
Super
> Bowls in a row to make up for my agony... I think Dactar knows what
I
> mean.
>
> jayandmegan03@y...> wrote:
>
> God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always try and keep one
anthem
> in my head in my daily life and in my more leisurely pursuits ,
> namely fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports fanatic:
> everything in life worth having is something worth working
> for ! .....with that attitude in mind when the browns finally win
the
> big one in 2059 it will be that much sweeter for all the years of
> heartache and embaressment
>
> Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@y...> wrote:
> I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
> Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it.
All
> I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
> to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
> Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
> endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
> have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
> flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
> take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
> reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
> Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.

2059? Let me see, I won't remember that one either... I'll be 98.
And, personally, I think he does hate Cleveland. I could sit hear and
give examples ALL day, but I have a million things to do. Do you fly-
fish with your Browns shirt on? Not much of a fisherman myself but I
do love to ski (snow, not water) and it would take about 4 or 5 Super
Bowls in a row to make up for my agony... I think Dactar knows what I
mean.

jayandmegan03@y...> wrote:

God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always try and keep one anthem
in my head in my daily life and in my more leisurely pursuits ,
namely fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports fanatic:
everything in life worth having is something worth working
for ! .....with that attitude in mind when the browns finally win the
big one in 2059 it will be that much sweeter for all the years of
heartache and embaressment

Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@y...> wrote:
I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it. All
I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
maybe next year.

Some folks ain't got til 2059...
--- jay and megan dresselhaus
<jayandmegan03@...> wrote:

>
> God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always
> try and keep one anthem in my head in my daily
> life and in my more leisurely pursuits , namely
> fly fishing and as a transplanted ohio sports
> fanatic: everything in life worth having is
> something worth working for ! .....with that
> attitude in mind when the browns finally win
> the big one in 2059 it will be that much
> sweeter for all the years of heartache and
> embaressment
>
> Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@...> wrote:
> I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was
> a fetus. Our last
> Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I
> don't remember it. All
> I want before I die is to see a coach wearing
> brown/orange to smile
> to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent
> Stanley Cup, no wait...
> Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and
> anguish us Browns fans
> endure cannot be measured by any means yet
> known to mankind. Now we
> have a beer company thinking they're cute by
> having referees throw
> flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know
> how much more I can
> take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's
> soup-can warming-up mom
> reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK
> in the super bowl)
> Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES
> HATE CLEVELAND.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> All aboard the pain train...
>
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wrote:

>
> I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was
> a fetus. Our last
> Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I
> don't remember it. All
> I want before I die is to see a coach wearing
> brown/orange to smile
> to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent
> Stanley Cup, no wait...
> Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and
> anguish us Browns fans
> endure cannot be measured by any means yet
> known to mankind. Now we
> have a beer company thinking they're cute by
> having referees throw
> flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know
> how much more I can
> take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's
> soup-can warming-up mom
> reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK
> in the super bowl)
> Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES
> HATE CLEVELAND.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again...
> maybe next year.
>
>
>
>
>


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God doesnt hate cleveland!!! .......i always try and keep one anthem in my head
in my daily life and in my more leisurely pursuits , namely fly fishing and as a
transplanted ohio sports fanatic: everything in life worth having is something
worth working for ! .....with that attitude in mind when the browns finally win
the big one in 2059 it will be that much sweeter for all the years of heartache
and embaressment

Herman Hilton Jr <hermhilton@...> wrote:
I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it. All
I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
maybe next year.






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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

All aboard the pain train...

kmac



Herman Hilton Jr says:

I've said it before and I'll say it again...
maybe next year.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I've been a Browns and Indians fan since I was a fetus. Our last
Championship, I was 3... so needless to say I don't remember it. All
I want before I die is to see a coach wearing brown/orange to smile
to the cameras as he lifts the magnificent Stanley Cup, no wait...
Lombardi Trophy above his head. The pain and anguish us Browns fans
endure cannot be measured by any means yet known to mankind. Now we
have a beer company thinking they're cute by having referees throw
flags on us in our personal lives, I don't know how much more I can
take. And, to top it off we have McNabb's soup-can warming-up mom
reminding us of John (beat Cleveland then SUCK in the super bowl)
Elway. Yes, fellow dawgs.... GOD REALLY DOES HATE CLEVELAND.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
maybe next year.

Crennel could be Browns next coach


By Howard Ulman / Associated Press

BOSTON -- The head of a group that helps minority
candidates said Friday he had a "very
encouraging" conversation with the Cleveland
Browns about Romeo Crennel's chances of becoming
head coach.

"They said that his interview was excellent, that
the owner was thoroughly impressed with him, that
they liked him a whole lot," said John Wooten,
chairman of the Fritz Pollard Alliance.

Crennel, defensive coordinator of the New England
Patriots, will coach in the AFC championship game
Sunday in Pittsburgh against the Steelers.

Two other assistants still in the playoffs,
Philadelphia offensive coordinator Brad Childress
and Pittsburgh offensive line coach Russ Grimm
also were interviewed. None of the three can be
hired until his team is eliminated.

The Browns also interviewed Terry Robiskie, their
interim coach who went 1-4 after Butch Davis
resigned.

Wooten said he called the Browns after Crennel's
interview, his customary follow-up with minority
candidates to see if the team had any
recommendations about how the candidate can
improve for future interviews.

"They said, "'No,' that he was outstanding,"
Wooten told The Associated Press in a telephone
interview from his home outside Dallas. "I said,
'So we can conclude he's in excellent position?'
and they said, 'Yes, he's an excellent
candidate.' We also know they like other people."


On Sunday, Childress will coach in the NFC title
game against Atlanta before Crennel and Grimm
coach from opposite sidelines in the AFC game.

Wooten was an offensive guard with the Browns
from 1959 to 1967. That team became the Baltimore
Ravens in 1996 and a new Browns franchise began
in 1999. He's also held front office positions
with Philadelphia and Baltimore.

He said he last talked with Browns president John
Collins on Wednesday night.

The Browns have not spoken publicly about each
candidate's chances. The Patriots were en route
to Pittsburgh on Friday night and did not
immediately return a call seeking comment.

Crennel, 57, is in his fourth season as the
Patriots defensive coordinator after one season
in that position with the Browns. He has been an
assistant on four Super Bowl champions - in the
1986 and 1990 seasons with the New York Giants
and the 2001 and 2003 seasons with the Patriots.

He also interviewed for the San Francisco 49ers
head coaching job that went to Baltimore
defensive coordinator Mike Nolan.

Crennel's agent, Joe Linta, said Friday he had
not spoken with Browns officials since the
interview about two weeks ago with Collins,
Browns owner Randy Lerner and general manager
Phil Savage. Last year, Crennel interviewed with
several teams, including Buffalo, Oakland,
Chicago and Oakland. The previous season he spoke
with San Francisco about the job that went to
Dennis Erickson

"One of the problems (in getting hired) is you
have to be a hot guy and for years he never had
the benefit of the press backing him," Linta
said. "After a couple of Super Bowls and the way
(the Patriots) played, the guy couldn't hide
anymore."

The Browns could make an announcement as soon as
Sunday night.

Wooten said he last spoke with Crennel on Tuesday
or Wednesday..

"I just told him that I heard tremendous things
out of Cleveland. Just keep on doing what you're
doing," Wooten said. "It's more meaningful for me
for him to come in as a champion."



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i am already in love with this guy. trained under ozzie, and wants to
not make the lerners better but wants the browns to become a pride
again. damn wouldnt that be great to be cheering for our Browns again
this time of year. well mr. savage you got me on your side. if you
want to hear his first press conference on january 7th go to


http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news_room/video/rmconsole.php?
t=video&f=05_01_07_savage_phil_video.rm

it is a damn good interview. please football gods grant him and us
the browns faithful a great future.

in the interview he talks about being a browns fan and even reading
books by Terry Pluto including false start which i think should be
definite reading material for anyone in the browns staff.

I don't remember anyone anyone mentioning Terry Pluto's book "False
Start: How the Browns Were Set Up to Fail" so I thought I'd mention
it to anyone who hasn't yet heard about it. The book covers the
period from Art Modell's decision to leave Cleveland through the
2003 season.  Unlike the other books of Pluto that I have read there
is little that is bitter/sweet here; Its mostly bitter.  Pluto is
one ticked off man about the raw deal Cleveland got not only
regarding the move but how the NFL screwed Cleveland over in
creating the new franchise.  Nor is he all that happy with Policy
and Clarke.  And while not offering his opinion regarding Chris
Palmer's coaching abilities he portrays Palmer has an eminently
decent man who got shafted by the Browns.

Interspersed in the book are letters he has received from fans
dealing with subjects like why they continue to remain loyal.  Just
before the end he includes some riddles that aren't particularly
funny or clever but do drive home his fundamental point.  For
example, Do you know why the NFL doesn't give Akron a pro football
team?  Its because then Cleveland would want one too.

At roughly 160 pages its an easy and fast read.  However, unlike
some of Pluto's other books you will not finish it feeling all warm
and fuzzy inside.

Please no Terry robiskie.The Browns deserve
better.Enough suffering, we dont need another 5 yrars
of terrible football.
--- dactar <dactar@...> wrote:

> Robiskie gets his interview with Browns
>
> NFL.com wire reports
>
> CLEVELAND (Jan. 10, 2005) -- Browns interim coach
> Terry Robiskie thinks he has done enough to keep
> the job on a permanent basis.
>
> Robiskie met with team owner Randy Lerner,
> president John Collins and general manager Phil
> Savage in New York to interview for the position
> that became open when Butch Davis resigned.
>
> Robiskie has the backing of the players, who have
> been outspoken in supporting him. But Cleveland
> went 4-12 this season and struggled on offense
> with Robiskie as coordinator.
>
> The Browns lost four straight after Robiskie took
> over for Davis, but he inspired the players to
> win the final game of the season and snap a
> nine-game losing streak.
>
> "I firmly believe that I did all I could do. It
> was a tough, tough situation to take over,"
> Robiskie said a day after the Browns beat
> Houston.
>
> Robiskie is the fourth candidate interviewed by
> the Browns, joining New England defensive
> coordinator Romeo Crennel, Philadelphia offensive
> coordinator Brad Childress and Pittsburgh
> offensive line coach Russ Grimm.
>
> The other three candidates still are working for
> their teams in the playoffs, which could delay a
> decision.
>
> Savage said the Browns are willing to wait until
> after the Super Bowl, if necessary, to hire the
> right candidate.
>
> The final call on a coach will be Lerner's, but
> Savage will have a major role in the decision.
>
> "If we find the right guy quickly, we'll probably
> go ahead and do something," Savage said last
> week. "Right now, I don't think there is a
> specific timeline."
>
> The Browns could find themselves in competition
> with San Francisco for a coach. The 49ers fired
> coach Dennis Erickson and dismissed general
> manager Terry Donahue last week. 49ers owner John
> York interviewed Crennel on Jan. 8 in Boston,
> with both sides saying the conversation went
> well.
>
>
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The NFL brass has to be happy with the way the Browns are conducting
the coach search, interviewing at minimum 2 minority coaches.
Another one they might want to talk to is former Oakland Raider Hall
of Fame T & coach Art Shell. If can't land Russ griim to shore up
the most problem with the team and that's the OL. If they can't
block and move the DL and LB's off the ball you can't run. And if
they can't pass block, it doesn't matter who the QB and WR's & TE's
are, you can't effectively throw it either.

--- In ClevelandBrownsClub@yahoogroups.com, dactar <dactar@y...>
wrote:
> Robiskie gets his interview with Browns
>
> NFL.com wire reports
>
> CLEVELAND (Jan. 10, 2005) -- Browns interim coach
> Terry Robiskie thinks he has done enough to keep
> the job on a permanent basis.
>
> Robiskie met with team owner Randy Lerner,
> president John Collins and general manager Phil
> Savage in New York to interview for the position
> that became open when Butch Davis resigned.
>
> Robiskie has the backing of the players, who have
> been outspoken in supporting him. But Cleveland
> went 4-12 this season and struggled on offense
> with Robiskie as coordinator.
>
> The Browns lost four straight after Robiskie took
> over for Davis, but he inspired the players to
> win the final game of the season and snap a
> nine-game losing streak.
>
> "I firmly believe that I did all I could do. It
> was a tough, tough situation to take over,"
> Robiskie said a day after the Browns beat
> Houston.
>
> Robiskie is the fourth candidate interviewed by
> the Browns, joining New England defensive
> coordinator Romeo Crennel, Philadelphia offensive
> coordinator Brad Childress and Pittsburgh
> offensive line coach Russ Grimm.
>
> The other three candidates still are working for
> their teams in the playoffs, which could delay a
> decision.
>
> Savage said the Browns are willing to wait until
> after the Super Bowl, if necessary, to hire the
> right candidate.
>
> The final call on a coach will be Lerner's, but
> Savage will have a major role in the decision.
>
> "If we find the right guy quickly, we'll probably
> go ahead and do something," Savage said last
> week. "Right now, I don't think there is a
> specific timeline."
>
> The Browns could find themselves in competition
> with San Francisco for a coach. The 49ers fired
> coach Dennis Erickson and dismissed general
> manager Terry Donahue last week. 49ers owner John
> York interviewed Crennel on Jan. 8 in Boston,
> with both sides saying the conversation went
> well.
>
>
> AP NEWS
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>
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Robiskie gets his interview with Browns

NFL.com wire reports

CLEVELAND (Jan. 10, 2005) -- Browns interim coach
Terry Robiskie thinks he has done enough to keep
the job on a permanent basis.

Robiskie met with team owner Randy Lerner,
president John Collins and general manager Phil
Savage in New York to interview for the position
that became open when Butch Davis resigned.

Robiskie has the backing of the players, who have
been outspoken in supporting him. But Cleveland
went 4-12 this season and struggled on offense
with Robiskie as coordinator.

The Browns lost four straight after Robiskie took
over for Davis, but he inspired the players to
win the final game of the season and snap a
nine-game losing streak.

"I firmly believe that I did all I could do. It
was a tough, tough situation to take over,"
Robiskie said a day after the Browns beat
Houston.

Robiskie is the fourth candidate interviewed by
the Browns, joining New England defensive
coordinator Romeo Crennel, Philadelphia offensive
coordinator Brad Childress and Pittsburgh
offensive line coach Russ Grimm.

The other three candidates still are working for
their teams in the playoffs, which could delay a
decision.

Savage said the Browns are willing to wait until
after the Super Bowl, if necessary, to hire the
right candidate.

The final call on a coach will be Lerner's, but
Savage will have a major role in the decision.

"If we find the right guy quickly, we'll probably
go ahead and do something," Savage said last
week. "Right now, I don't think there is a
specific timeline."

The Browns could find themselves in competition
with San Francisco for a coach. The 49ers fired
coach Dennis Erickson and dismissed general
manager Terry Donahue last week. 49ers owner John
York interviewed Crennel on Jan. 8 in Boston,
with both sides saying the conversation went
well.


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Phil Savage accepts offer to be Browns GM


By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer

CLEVELAND (AP) - Phil Savage has accepted an
offer to be general manager of the Cleveland
Browns, leaving Baltimore for a struggling AFC
North rival, a team official told the Associated
Press on Wednesday.

Savage, who served as the Ravens' director of
player personnel the past two seasons, only has
to work out some financial details to finalize
his contract before taking over the Browns, who
went 4-12 last season, the source said speaking
on the condition of anonymity.

Savage was expected to arrive in Cleveland on
Thursday to sign the deal.

"We don't anticipate any problems," said the
source, who added Savage could be introduced at a
press conference Thursday.

A phone message left for Savage's agent, Neil
Cornrich, was not immediately returned.

Considered one of the NFL's top talent
evaluators, the 39-year-old Savage is returning
to the Browns, who gave him his start in the NFL
in 1991 as a defensive assistant under
coordinator Nick Saban. Savage was on Saban's
staff for three seasons before moving into the
team's scouting department.

With Baltimore, Savage's keen eye for quality
players helped the Ravens draft nine Pro Bowlers,
including Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden, Jamal Lewis,
Peter Boulware and Ed Reed, in eight years. He
was also successful in signing some undrafted
free agents, who helped Baltimore win a Super
Bowl title in 2001.

Savage took over as the Ravens personnel director
in 2003.

The Browns haven't had a general manager since
returning to the league in 1999 as an expansion
team. Butch Davis, who resigned as coach on Nov.
30, had full control of football operations in
Cleveland.

Owner Randy Lerner wants to have a more
traditionally structured front office, where the
GM handles most personnel matters, leaving the
coach to handle on-the-field responsibilities.

Now that they have their GM, the Browns can focus
on finding a head coach.

On Tuesday, the club interviewed Philadelphia
Eagles offensive coordinator Brad Childress. The
Browns have interviews planned this week with
Pittsburgh assistant coach Russ Grimm and New
England defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.

Next week, they'll interview Terry Robiskie, who
served as Cleveland's interim coach for the final
five games after Davis resigned. Savage will have
a pivotal role in selecting the Browns next
coach, who the club hopes to have by the end of
the month.

Savage had come close to leaving the Ravens
previously, interviewing for GM jobs with
Chicago, Miami and Jacksonville. There had been
speculation that he would reunite with Saban, who
recently joined the Dolphins after leaving LSU.


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