Am I alone in my disappointment that the Reds didn't get Colon?  Of all
the pitchers out there it would sure have been nice to get him, instead
we got Wilson (20-37, 4.86) and Anderson (24-42, 5.17) who replace
Dessens (30-35, 4.29).  Sorry, IMHO we are still in the minus column for
the winter compared to last year's team. There is an old saying in
baseball which is true, "you can never have to much pitching." About
Dunn, I said earlier in the year I hoped he adjusted to his second year
in the league and he simply did not. He has a long way to go before he
is a true major leaguer, I hope this year Adam matures and becomes one,
if not as already pointed out the Reds are in big trouble. This team
will be hard to predict as there are so many question marks as everyone
has pointed out: injuries(Casey, Griffey, Larkin), who plays second, a
problem created by our budget restrictions, pitching, a whole lot of
rehab jobs there, Dunn, Kearns, Larson,  and MONEY. Only about a month
and baseball will start spring training, can't wait, hope to get in the
new ballpark that first week, hope I see a good team besides a good
ballpark.

This is certainly more optimistic news.  Griffey needs to work very hard in
the offseason on his conditioning to avoid another injury plagued season.

Diehardsteeler

As far as the everyday lineup goes, there are only two questions: Can the
Reds stay healthy and are their young players as good as they think?

The first question is the bigger one. If Griffey, Casey and Kearns all miss
as much time as they did last year, the Reds could be hanging with the
Milwaukee Brewers at the bottom of the NL Central standings.

Griffey, after two injury-riddled seasons, has been working out intensely,
according to reports. Assistant trainer Lonnie Soloff was going to Orlando
today to check out the progress of Griffey, Larkin and Graves, who've been
working with a personal trainer there.

"I've heard he's been taking it very seriously," Boone said.

Whether the youngsters live up to their scouting reports is the other big
question. Dunn faded badly in the second half last year, and Larson and
Kearns started last year in the minors.

The older Reds fans will be interested in this, we followed the Reds
through Mr. Lawson writings.
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Yes, I do agree with all of you, consistancy is the key to the Reds winning this year. I know the homers was a dream, but, hey, it sounded good. If all starting 8 hit .300 or more, this team could go places. Even though I like to see the ball leave the yard, I agree with you on the walks. Walks can start rally's, which produce runs. If players would be more patient at the plate, the walks would produce wins. That was one of my pet peeves about Deion Sanders when he played. He was always swinging at the first pitch, and 9 times out of 10, popping the ball up in the infield. You have to be patient and wait for your pitch.

Does any one have much details on this Paul Wilson that the Reds just signed for 2 years? Do you think this is a good pick up for the team?

Easttartan

 Vetsunny@... wrote:

I'd rather the guys hit consistantly, than get ~40 homers, and whiff 150 times!  But I agree with you, Scott, on the way the blues perceive the strike zone--saw it constantly out here with Bonds.  If he let a good pitch by, and it was called a strike, Bonds would shake his head, and chew out the blue.  But on the TV replays, you could see that it was a strike.  But Bozo was getting all those calls in his favor, that when a blue would try and do it right, Bozo whined.

And yes, the A's did (and does) lead the AL (and I think the NL) in walks--it's amazing.  And they were teaching their minor leaguers to wait, too--much to the chagrin of the River Cats fans, who wanted HRs--but I loved those walks.  It starts a lot of rallies.

I hope something comes up positive for the Reds for 2003.  Nothing looks good, except for GAPB--but still--GO REDS!!!

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No, 20 would be fine with a .310 average, 85 rbi's and
that great defense he plays.
--- scampb7092@... wrote:
> I don't see Kearns hitting 40 homers in 03.
>
> sorry.
>
> Dunn AND (a healthy) Griffey...oh heck YEAH!!! That
> would be 80 homers total.
> I see Kearns as a guy who could hit .300+/20+/80+.
> Casey would probably hit 25 along with Boone.
> If Larkin hits 10 and Miller or LaRue hit 15 that
> bring us to 155 w/o Larson.
>
> So in some sense there isn't alot of pressure on
> Larson to hit a certain # of
> whatever.
>
> The MAIN THING the Reds hitting should concentrate
> on is putting solid
> contact on the ball.
> I don't know how many times (it got boring actually)
> that a Red would hit a
> ball without anything on it after it was hit to the
> other teams infielder to
> end the inning.
>
> Let's smash the ball.
>
> See this is the thing about Umpires...if you take a
> "junk" pitch that's kinda
> on the inside or outside part of the plate,...junk
> as in you can't put solid
> contact on the ball (see above)...then eventually
> the ump is going to call it
> in favor of the hitter.
>
> It's something subconcsiously where if the batter
> didn't take a hack at it
> then it must be outside/inside.
>
> Sure I'm not saying just wait for things across the
> middle, but at the same
> time patience is needed for the hitters.
>
> Look at Oakland in 2000-2002.
> Didn't they lead the league in walks each year?
>
> anyway
> GO REDS
> Scott
>


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The same policy as last year it looks like, try to rehab pitchers since
we can't afford a top line starter. Really saddens me.
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<One executive is skeptical of Reds manager Bob Boone's claim that third baseman Brandon Larson "can hit 40 home runs." "I've got to see that to believe it," the executive says. "I don't think he's the player they think he is." Larson hit 25 homers in 297 at-bats at Class AAA Louisville last season and four in 51 at-bats with the Reds. The executive, however, believes that 12 to 15 homers is a more realistic projection than 40. . . . >

What does this Exec. know???? Someone needs to tell him that with a projected 50 homers from Jr., 40 from Dunn & Kearns, 30 from Boone and 25 from Casey is well enough that 15 from Larson will fit nicely!!! Thats a projected 160 homers in one season. We'll take it, dude!!!!

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Thanks Greg & Lora, that was just beautiful!!!! They should change the Dorsey quote to: I didn't respect their defense, but now..............   LOL   This game will live in us Buckeyes for years to come. Shoot!!!, It still gives me goose-bumps when I think about it. Buckeyes Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mercker signs minor-league deal
By Chris Haft / MLB.com




             Kent Mercker pitched in a career-high 58 games for Colorado last
season. (AP Photo)



CINCINNATI -- Increasing their supply of left-handed relief specialists, the
Reds signed Kent Mercker and Felix Heredia to minor-league contracts Tuesday
with invitations to Spring Training.
Cincinnati's contingent of Major League left-handers in the bullpen already
includes Gabe White and Bruce Chen. Lance Davis, who started 20 games for
the Reds in 2001 before hurting his shoulder last year, also could be used
in relief. But each of them approaches the season with uncertain status. The
Reds have been trying to trade White, who's due to earn $3.25 million this
year. Chen could wind up starting instead of relieving. As one of six Reds
eligible for salary arbitration, he also could be vulnerable to getting
traded. Davis, who still must prove he's healthy, has not pitched
extensively in relief since 1998.


Mercker was 3-1 with a 6.14 ERA in a career-high 58 appearances for the
Colorado Rockies last year. His season was marred on June 5 when he broke
his left hand as he tried to field a comebacker hit by Los Angeles' Mark
Grudzielanek. At that time, Mercker was 1-0 with a 4.13 ERA in 32
appearances and had limited opposing left-handers to a .103 batting average.

For the season, lefties hit .209 off Mercker. That compared favorably with
White (.202) and Chen (.159).

Mercker, 34, pitched for Cincinnati in 1997. The native and resident of
Dublin, Ohio, finished 8-11 with a 3.92 ERA in 25 starts and three relief
outings that year.

Heredia was 1-2 with a 3.61 ERA in 53 appearances for Toronto last year. The
26-year-old spent the previous six years in the National League with Florida
and Chicago. Lefties hit only .206 off Heredia during his first five Major
League seasons before batting .292 against him in 2001. He improved to .221
against lefties last year.

Reds general manager Jim Bowden declined to comment on the status of
negotiations with other free agents, though the club is known to have
contacted representatives for infielder Jose Hernandez, left-hander John
Halama and right-hander James Baldwin.

This isn't an entirely surprising list, since the Reds has coveted each
player at one time or another in recent years.

Late last season they discussed trading for Hernandez, who hit .288 with 24
home runs and 73 RBIs despite striking out 188 times for Milwaukee. Halama
(6-5 with a 3.56 ERA in 2002) and Baldwin (7-10, 5.28), who both pitched for
Seattle last season, have been mentioned in trade talks involving the Reds
on several occasions.

Chris Haft is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the
approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Ripken says Rose's career is enough to put him in Hall

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       On the eve of this year's Hall of Fame announcements, former Orioles
legend Cal Ripken Jr. says Pete Rose should be allowed into the Hall of Fame
on the strength of his stellar career.

       "The issue about whether (Rose's) career should be celebrated in the
Hall of Fame, I think absolutely. He's the all-time hit leader, his
accomplishments are as great as anyone who's ever played the game," Ripken
said in an exclusive ESPN interview Monday. "And so if you think about the
Hall of Fame in a way that celebrates the history of baseball, he certainly
should be celebrated in the Hall of Fame."

       However, Ripken said he isn't sure on whether Rose should return to a
career in baseball.

       "I mean, who am I to actually say or judge that?" Ripken said. "That's
an issue that somebody will have to decide, but as far as the Hall of Fame,
you know, he's the all-time hit leader, he should be there."

       Rose agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball in August 1989 after an
investigation of his gambling. Because of the ban, he cannot appear on the
Hall of Fame ballot.

       The Associated Press contributed to this report.




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The Mussina deal actually makes more sense than the
Colon deal. The Yankees have an abundance of starters
so they almost have to deal one or two. I don't know
what Mussina makes but Sullivan and White will make a
combined six million next year. This is the kind of
deal Bowden is good at, maybe he could even talk the
Yankees into paying some of Mussina's salary this
year. I know its doubtful the Yankees would do such a
deal when the're trying to trim the fat themselves,
but a deal like this would definately improve their
pitching staff. I'm sure this is just a rumor but it
makes more sense for both teams than any other rumours
I've heard this winter. In fact, this would probably
be one of those rare deals that help both teams.
Rick
--- easttartan <easttartan1987@...> wrote:
>
> Another post mentioned that Aaron was taking
> practice at 2nd base with Bret and Bob during the
> off season , so some trade like this could be a
> possibility. I don't see it because of the salary,
> but Jim always seems to pull things off sometimes.
> There was another trade rumor there that mentioned
> the Reds trading Sullivan and White to New York (AL)
> for Mussina. This is the one I really don't see
> happening. I don't see the Yankees giving up Mussina
> for Sullivan and White without someone else thrown
> in. But, he would be a great addition to the
> pitching staff if Colon was here also.
> You have to watch the rumors that you see on these
> posts. But I thought I'd get some opinions in this
> group on it. Someone over there even mentioned they
> think the Reds ought to get Pudge Rodriguz. I really
> think he would take up too much salary for that to
> ever happen. It sounds good though. I really don't
> think we're stable there with LaRue. I like Corkey
> Miller better than LaRue.
>  rick anderson <nightimebandit@...> wrote:I
> don't know, I don't believe I buy this one. Who the
> hell are Steve Smith and Josh Hall? I just don't
> believe the Reds would take on that kind of salary,
> especially when we have several unsigned players
> going
> to arbitration. It would be a good deal for us if
> management was willing to spend the money. We
> desparately need to work a deal, at this point we're
> the only team in our division to be weaker now than
> at
> seasons end. If Larson was traded and Lopez goes
> bust
> then I guess Branyon could play third when he's
> healthy and Boone could move to second.
> Rick
> --- easttartan <easttartan1987@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I was checking out some posts on the Reds website
> > and found this one quite interesting. I haven't
> > heard if its true or not. But, oh , how nice if it
> > is. We wouldn't be missing much, even though , I
> > think Larson will be a great player some day, but
> > you have to give up something to get a quality
> > pitcher like Colon. I have to agree with some of
> the
> > post that answered to this one. I believe I would
> > only make this trade if we sign Colon long term.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Expos fan here,
> >
> > I was driving home from work and heard on the
> radio
> > in Montreal that the Expos and Reds have agreed on
> a
> > deal that would send Bartolo Colon to the Reds for
> > Brad Larson, Josh Hall, Steve Smith, and Chris
> > Reatsma.They said the deal will be announced when
> > Colon and the others 4 players from Cincy pass
> their
> > physicals.They also said the Reds were gonna try
> to
> > lock him up to a 3-5 year deal worth 8-10 million
> a
> > year.
> >
> > What do you guys think?I was hoping we could get
> > Dunn or Kearns for Colon
> >
> >
> >
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Another post mentioned that Aaron was taking practice at 2nd base with Bret and Bob during the off season , so some trade like this could be a possibility. I don't see it because of the salary, but Jim always seems to pull things off sometimes.

There was another trade rumor there that mentioned the Reds trading Sullivan and White to New York (AL) for Mussina. This is the one I really don't see happening. I don't see the Yankees giving up Mussina for Sullivan and White without someone else thrown in. But, he would be a great addition to the pitching staff if Colon was here also.

You have to watch the rumors that you see on these posts. But I thought I'd get some opinions in this group on it. Someone over there even mentioned they think the Reds ought to get Pudge Rodriguz. I really think he would take up too much salary for that to ever happen. It sounds good though. I really don't think we're stable there with LaRue. I like Corkey Miller better than LaRue.

 rick anderson <nightimebandit@...> wrote:

I don't know, I don't believe I buy this one. Who the
hell are Steve Smith and Josh Hall? I just don't
believe the Reds would take on that kind of salary,
especially when we have several unsigned players going
to arbitration. It would be a good deal for us if
management was willing to spend the money. We
desparately need to work a deal, at this point we're
the only team in our division to be weaker now than at
seasons end. If Larson was traded and Lopez goes bust
then I guess Branyon could play third when he's
healthy and Boone could move to second.
Rick
--- easttartan <easttartan1987@...> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I was checking out some posts on the Reds website
> and found this one quite interesting. I haven't
> heard if its true or not. But, oh , how nice if it
> is. We wouldn't be missing much, even though , I
> think Larson will be a great player some day, but
> you have to give up something to get a quality
> pitcher like Colon. I have to agree with some of the
> post that answered to this one. I believe I would
> only make this trade if we sign Colon long term.
>
> 
>
> Hey Expos fan here,
>
> I was driving home from work and heard on the radio
> in Montreal that the Expos and Reds have agreed on a
> deal that would send Bartolo Colon to the Reds for
> Brad Larson, Josh Hall, Steve Smith, and Chris
> Reatsma.They said the deal will be announced when
> Colon and the others 4 players from Cincy pass their
> physicals.They also said the Reds were gonna try to
> lock him up to a 3-5 year deal worth 8-10 million a
> year.
>
> What do you guys think?I was hoping we could get
> Dunn or Kearns for Colon
>
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I don't know, I don't believe I buy this one. Who the
hell are Steve Smith and Josh Hall? I just don't
believe the Reds would take on that kind of salary,
especially when we have several unsigned players going
to arbitration. It would be a good deal for us if
management was willing to spend the money. We
desparately need to work a deal, at this point we're
the only team in our division to be weaker now than at
seasons end. If Larson was traded and Lopez goes bust
then I guess Branyon could play third when he's
healthy and Boone could move to second.
Rick
--- easttartan <easttartan1987@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was checking out some posts on the Reds website
> and found this one quite interesting. I haven't
> heard if its true or not. But, oh , how nice if it
> is. We wouldn't be missing much, even though , I
> think Larson will be a great player some day, but
> you have to give up something to get a quality
> pitcher like Colon. I have to agree with some of the
> post that answered to this one. I believe I would
> only make this trade if we sign Colon long term.
>
>
>
> Hey Expos fan here,
>
> I was driving home from work and heard on the radio
> in Montreal that the Expos and Reds have agreed on a
> deal that would send Bartolo Colon to the Reds for
> Brad Larson, Josh Hall, Steve Smith, and Chris
> Reatsma.They said the deal will be announced when
> Colon and the others 4 players from Cincy pass their
> physicals.They also said the Reds were gonna try to
> lock him up to a 3-5 year deal worth 8-10 million a
> year.
>
> What do you guys think?I was hoping we could get
> Dunn or Kearns for Colon
>
>
>
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I was checking out some posts on the Reds website and found this one quite interesting. I haven't heard if its true or not. But, oh , how nice if it is. We wouldn't be missing much, even though , I think Larson will be a great player some day, but you have to give up something to get a quality pitcher like Colon. I have to agree with some of the post that answered to this one. I believe I would only make this trade if we sign Colon long term.

Hey Expos fan here,

I was driving home from work and heard on the radio in Montreal that the Expos and Reds have agreed on a deal that would send Bartolo Colon to the Reds for Brad Larson, Josh Hall, Steve Smith, and Chris Reatsma.They said the deal will be announced when Colon and the others 4 players from Cincy pass their physicals.They also said the Reds were gonna try to lock him up to a 3-5 year deal worth 8-10 million a year.

What do you guys think?I was hoping we could get Dunn or Kearns for Colon

Reds 2003 Schedule
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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All times ET and p.m.


MARCH


       31 Mon. Pittsburgh 4:10
APRIL


       2 Wed Pittsburgh 7:10
       3 Thu. Pittsburgh 12:35
       4 Fri. Chicago 7:10
       5 Sat. Chicago 1:15
       6 Sun. Chicago 1:15
       8 Tue. @ Houston 8:05
       9 Wed. @ Houston 8:05
       10 Thu. @ Houston 8:05
       11 Fri. Philadelphia 7:10
       12 Sat. Philadelphia 1:15
       13 Sun. Philadelphia 1:15
       14 Mon. @ Chicago 8:05
       15 Tue. @ Chicago 2:20
       16 Wed. @ Chicago 2:20
       17 Thu. @ Chicago 2:20
       18 Fri. @ Montreal 7:05
       19 Sat. @ Montreal 7:05
       20 Sun. @ Montreal 1:05
       22 Tue. Los Angeles 7:10
       23 Wed. Los Angeles 7:10
       24 Thu. Los Angeles 7:10
       25 Fri. San Diego 7:10
       26 Sat. San Diego 1:15
       27 Sun. San Diego 1:15
       29 Tue. @ Colorado 9:05
       30 Wed. @ Colorado 9:05
MAY


       1 Thu. @ Colorado 3:05
       2 Fri. @ San Francisco 10:15
       3 Sat. @ San Francisco 4:05
       4 Sun. @ San Francisco 4:05
       5 Mon. St. Louis 7:10
       6 Tue. St. Louis 7:10
       7 Wed. St. Louis 7:10
       8 Thu. St. Louis 12:35
       9 Fri. Milwaukee 7:10
       10 Sat. Milwaukee 7:10
       11 Sun. Milwaukee 1:15
       13 Tue. @ St. Louis 8:10
       14 Wed. @ St. Louis 8:10
       15 Thu. @ St. Louis 1:10
       16 Fri. @ Milwaukee 8:05
       17 Sat. @ Milwaukee 2:05
       18 Sun. @ Milwaukee 2:05
       20 Tue. Atlanta 7:10
       21 Wed. Atlanta 7:10
       22 Thu. Atlanta 7:10
       23 Fri. Florida 7:10
       24 Sat. Florida 7:10
       25 Sun. Florida 1:15
       26 Mon. @ Atlanta 1:05
       27 Tue. @ Atlanta 7:35
       28 Wed. @ Atlanta 7:05
       30 Fri. @ Florida 7:35
       31 Sat. @ Florida 6:05
JUNE


       1 Sun. @ Florida 1:35
       3 Tue. N.Y. Yankees 7:10
       4 Wed. N.Y. Yankees 7:10
       5 Thu. N.Y. Yankees 7:10
       6 Fri. Toronto 7:10
       7 Sat. Toronto 7:10
       8 Sun. Toronto 1:15
       10 Tue. @ Tampa 7:15
       11 Wed. @ Tampa 7:15
       12 Thu. @ Tampa 7:15
       13 Fri. Philadelphia 7:10
       14 Sat. Philadelphia 7:10
       15 Sun. Philadelphia 1:15
       16 Mon. Chicago 7:10
       17 Tue. Chicago 7:10
       18 Wed. Chicago 7:10
       19 Thu. Chicago 12:35
       20 Fri. @ Arizona 10:05
       21 Sat. @ Arizona 10:05
       22 Sun. @ Arizona 4:35
       24 Tue. @ St. Louis 8:10
       25 Wed. @ St. Louis 8:10
       26 Thu. @ St. Louis 8:10
       27 Fri. @ Cleveland 7:05
       28 Sat. @ Cleveland 1:05
       29 Sun. @ Cleveland 1:05
JULY


       1 Tue. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       2 Wed. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       3 Thu. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       4 Fri. N.Y. Mets 1:15
       5 Sat. N.Y. Mets 7:10
       6 Sun. N.Y. Mets 1:15
       7 Mon. @ Houston 8:05
       8 Tue. @ Houston 8:05
       9 Wed. @ Houston  8:05
       10 Thu. @ Houston 8:05
       11 Fri. @ Milwaukee 8:05
       12 Sat. @ Milwaukee 7:05
       13 Sun. @ Milwaukee 2:05
       14 Mon. All-Star Break
       15 Tue. All-Star Game
       16 Wed. All-Star Break
       17 Thu. Houston 7:10
       18 Fri. Houston 7:10
       19 Sat. Houston 1:15
       20 Sun. Houston 1:15
       21 Mon. Milwaukee 7:10
       22 Tue. Milwaukee 7:10
       23 Wed. Pittsburgh 7:10
       24 Thu. Pittsburgh 12:35
       25 Fri. @ N.Y. Mets 7:10
       26 Sat. @ N.Y. Mets 7:10
       27 Sun. @ N.Y. Mets 1:10
       29 Tue. Colorado 7:10
       30 Wed. Colorado 7:10
       31 Thu. Colorado 7:10
AUGUST


       1 Fri. San Francisco 7:10
       2 Sat. San Francisco 1:15
       3 Sun. San Francisco 1:15
       5 Tue. @ Los Angeles 10:10
       6 Wed. @ Los Angeles 10:10
       7 Thu. @ Los Angeles 10:10
       8 Fri. @ San Diego 10:05
       9 Sat. @ San Diego 10:05
       10 Sun. @ San Diego 5:00
       12 Tue. Arizona 7:10
       13 Wed. Arizona 7:10
       14 Thu. Arizona 7:10
       15 Fri. Houston 7:10
       16 Sat. Houston 1:15
       17 Sun. Houston 1:15
       19 Tue. @ Arizona 9:35
       20 Wed. @ Arizona 9:35
       21 Thu. @ Arizona 9:35
       22 Fri. @ Houston 8:05
       23 Sat. @ Houston 8:05
       24 Sun. @ Houston 2:05
       25 Mon. Milwaukee 7:10
       26 Tue. Milwaukee 7:10
       27 Wed. Milwaukee 7:10
       28 Thu. Milwaukee 12:35
       29 Fri. St. Louis 7:10
       30 Sat. St. Louis 7:10
       31 Sun. St. Louis 12:35
SEPTEMBER


       1 Mon. @ Milwaukee 2:05
       2 Tue. @ Milwaukee 8:05
       3 Wed. @ Milwaukee 8:05
       5 Fri. @ St. Louis 8:10
       6 Sat. @ St. Louis 8:10
       7 Sun. @ St. Louis 2:10
       8 Mon. Pittsburgh 7:10
       9 Tue. Pittsburgh 7:10
       10 Wed. Pittsburgh 7:10
       11 Thu. Pittsburgh 12:35
       12 Fri. @ Chicago 3:20
       13 Sat. @ Chicago 4:05
       14 Sun. @ Chicago 2:20
       15 Mon. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       16 Tue. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       17 Wed. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       18 Thu. @ Pittsburgh 7:05
       19 Fri. @ Philadelphia 7:05
       20 Sat. @ Philadelphia 7:05
       21 Sun. @ Philadelphia 1:35
       23 Tue. Chicago 7:10
       24 Wed. Chicago 7:10
       25 Thu. Chicago 7:10
       26 Fri. Montreal 7:10
       27 Sat. Montreal 1:15
       28 Sun. Montreal 1:15





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In 1968, after Ohio State scored late to build a 50-14 lead on Michigan,
Woody ordered a two-point conversion. When asked why he would do such a
thing, he responded, "Because I couldn't go for three."
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Reds opener moved to 4:10 p.m.
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Game will start later for national TV

By John Fay
The Cincinnati Enquirer


Opening Day is going national this year. Because of that, it's also going to
be pushed back a few hours.

The first pitch for the March 31 Cincinnati Reds opener against the
Pittsburgh Pirates will be at 4:10 p.m. to accommodate a national broadcast
on ESPN.

"We wanted to give the new ballpark national exposure," Reds chief operating
officer John Allen said Friday. "That's what's behind it."

Opening Day 2003, of course, will be the first in Great American Ball Park.
That attracted ESPN to the game.

"Opening Day in baseball is unlike any other sport," said ESPN director of
programming Mike Ryan. "With the ballpark in Cincinnati, we wanted to be
there."

The Reds-Pirates game is the second of two that will be aired on ESPN that
day. The Chicago Cubs and New York Mets open the day with a 1 p.m. game.

ESPN2 will broadcast three more, including Los Angeles-Arizona at 4 p.m.

Major League Baseball set the actual schedule, Mr. Ryan said, and ESPN made
the slots available.

The Findlay Market Parade, an Opening Day tradition, will go on.

"We're probably going to start it later," said Neil Luken, chairman of the
parade committee. "We're still talking about it. When the game was at 1:05,
we'd start at 10:30. When the game was at 2:15, we'd start at 11:30. We need
a two-hour window for the parade."

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In 1968, after Ohio State scored late to build a 50-14 lead on Michigan,
Woody ordered a two-point conversion. When asked why he would do such a
thing, he responded, "Because I couldn't go for three."
Visit the Steelzone at http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/diehardsteelzone/

The following CincinnatiReds poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Who should they trade for a starting
pitcher?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Ken Griffey Jr., 3 votes, 33.33%
- Sean Casey, 3 votes, 33.33%
- Adam Dunn, 3 votes, 33.33%
- Austin Kearns, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Barry Larkin, 0 votes, 0.00%



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Ken Griffey Jr. is still a Red, and his presence makes Cincy a threat in the NL Central. (Pat Sullivan/AP)

CINCINNATI -- Despite the near-complete construction of Great American Ball Park, the Cincinnati Reds had feared that this actually would be an offseason of deconstruction, marked by the front office's efforts to jettison high-salaried players to meet payroll limits.

But the dismantling hasn't been as extreme as originally anticipated, fostering the Reds' hopes that they can generate excitement in 2003 with a contending team as well as a new home.

Some cost-cutting was necessary. The Reds traded second baseman Todd Walker, who hit .299 with 42 doubles last year, to Boston for a pair of minor-league prospects. Walker was due to earn $3.4 million this season. Cincinnati also sent right-hander Elmer Dessens, who was due a significant pay hike through salary arbitration, to Arizona in a four-team trade that also involved Oakland and Toronto.

But the prescribed payroll of approximately $60 million, about $5 million-$10 million larger than expected, eased general manager Jim Bowden's urgency to revamp the roster. Once Bowden received his budget in early December, the roaring trade speculation involving center fielder Ken Griffey Jr. and first baseman Sean Casey dwindled to mere whispers.

Meanwhile, Bowden tried to fill the void created by Walker's departure. Hoping to add speed to the infield and the batting order, Cincinnati acquired 22-year-old Felipe Lopez from Toronto in the four-way deal. If Lopez doesn't inherit second base, he could receive substantial playing time at shortstop if 38-year-old Barry Larkin is relegated to part-time duty or switches to second.

Otherwise, the Reds have felt little urgency to alter the core of the team that spent 106 consecutive days in first or second place last year and trailed ultimate NL Central champion St. Louis by only 2 1/2 games entering Aug. 13 before fading. The organization senses that another year of maturity and experience will help the likes of Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns, Aaron Boone and Scott Williamson develop into elite performers.

"Five years ago, if you had told people that we would be walking into a new stadium with an outfield of Kearns, Griffey and Dunn -- two players making close to the minimum and a superstar Hall of Famer making well below market value, we'd be very pleased," Bowden said. Lumping Boone, Larkin, Williamson, catcher Jason LaRue and right-hander Danny Graves within that group, Bowden added, "We're very pleased with the nucleus we're going to start the new stadium with."

Though the Reds stack up economically with most of their division rivals -- only St. Louis and Chicago have significantly bigger payrolls -- they're still short of quality starting pitching. Trading Dessens made that weakness even more glaring. Jimmy Haynes, last year's leading winner (15-10) and Ryan Dempster are the team's lone experienced starters. The Reds have been mentioned in rumors involving Florida's Brad Penny, but they might struggle to obtain a starter of that quality, unless another team is willing to take left-hander Gabe White or right-hander Scott Sullivan, the relievers Bowden has tried to trade for financial reasons.

'03 Meter: 2 (Optimistic About Blueprint, Despite Departures)

Arrivals/departures: Released right-hander Jose Silva; traded second baseman Todd Walker to Boston for right-hander Josh Thigpen and third baseman Tony Blanco; traded right-hander Elmer Dessens to Arizona and obtained infielder Felipe Lopez from Toronto in a four-team trade also involving Oakland; signed right-handers Jose Rijo and Pete Harnisch to non-guaranteed minor-league contracts with invitations to spring training; signed outfielder Jose Guillen to a non-guaranteed minor-league contract with an invitation to spring training; signed right-hander Jimmy Haynes to a one-year, $2.5 million contract with a $2.5 million player option for 2004; selected right-handers Luke Prokopec, Blake Williams and Jerome Gamble in the Rule 5 draft.

Did you know: The Reds have recorded two complete games, a all-time franchise low, in each of the last two seasons.

Chris Haft is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.