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RE: [CincinnatiReds] The Sean Casey era is over

I did not mean YOU did say it was all about money and I did not mean to imply YOUR not a True Fan you sure sound like on to me
 I was just saying it wasn't thats all
 But Baseball has become all about money I have accepted that
 Any way its a done deal so thats it
 I will rephrase Emotional fans  then for me ...Sorry... I was not putting you or anyone down ... ***How long have you been a fan? ***
 It was no surprise that it happened I knew it was going to anyway
 Judy
 

andrew2@... wrote:
 > to true Fans baseball is not all about money  
 
First, when did I say anything about money?  All I said was that getting a decent pitcher in return for an average-at-best first baseman is a good deal.  That the Reds lose an 8 million dollar boat anchor in the process is merely a nice bonus.  Second, I'm not sure how thinking this trade makes sense makes me not a "true fan," but as you say, we're all entitled to our opinions.  But, just for the record, I attend approximately 50 home games per year, and I suspect unlike yourself, I actually knew who David Williams was before news of the trade broke.  You may like Sean as a person, and I don't see how anyone couldn't, but that doesn't make him a great first baseman
 
>To me Casey is more than what you say
 
He really isn't.  Yes, he's a great guy, we all love Sean Casey.  I'm sure we all wish he could remain a Red.  But as much as we might wish it weren't the case, baseball IS all about money, and has been seen the players won free agency.  And what that means is that a team like the Reds with a payroll 1/4 the size of other teams simply can't afford to pay to an average player $8.5 million and have any hope to compete. 
 
But, back to the matter at hand:
 
The Reds need pitching more than anything else.  The Reds had the best offense in the NL last year, and the 2nd best offense in the majors.  And yet they had one of the worst pitching rotations in baseball.  Obviously something has to give.  Add to that the fact that the fact that the Reds have 4 guys who should be playing every day in the outfield.  Now unless the Reds start playing softball, that means one of those guys has to sit out every day.  But!  With Casey out of the way, Dunn could be moved to first base (where he is less of a defensive liability than he is in left field) and WMP, Jr., and Kearns can play every day in the outfield.  So the way I see it, the Reds have improved their pitching and made a move to allow them to field their 8 best position players every day all in one trade.  I hate to see Casey go as much as you, but in this case it's the right move.
 
Andrew
 To me Casey is more than what you say
 Everyone to their own opnion to each this own
 Judy

andrew2@... wrote:
Call me crazy, but trading a first baseman with no power and average defense for an average pitcher seems like a pretty good deal to me.  What did you honestly expect the Reds could get for Casey?  A nice smile and a great personality don't win baseball games.
 
Andrew


From: CincinnatiReds@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CincinnatiReds@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vallerie Edmonds
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I hate to see Sean Casey go.  Not worth it for an average pitcher. 
Vallerie


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The word is that Sean Casey will be traded to Pirates for an average starting pitcher. Anyone else think we could get better for Casey?...
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Dec 7, 2005
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I hate to see Sean Casey go. Not worth it for an average pitcher. Vallerie...
Vallerie Edmonds
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Dec 7, 2005
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I agree ,,, at the present time He was my Fave and I am devastated The REDS always do this crap Look what they did to Barry and Eric???? Need I go on? This is...
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Call me crazy, but trading a first baseman with no power and average defense for an average pitcher seems like a pretty good deal to me. What did you honestly...
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Dec 7, 2005
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He is worth way more than this,, I am not a cursing woman but this makes me feel like cursing,,,, #%$XQ?XXQ%#ZQX&^%,,,, IF JR is next Then I do not know what I...
Judy Rivas
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This move gets us a 26 year old lefthanded starter, moves Dunn to first to get Wily Mo into the lineup, and frees up $7 million to go after Matt Morris. Rich ...
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Dec 7, 2005
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Thanks for the postive response I needed that really This is typical reds tho to do this kind of things Judy Greg Riepenhoff <greaper22@...> wrote: This...
Judy Rivas
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However if this is just a salary dump and they don't go after bigger names my opinion is dramatically different. ... __________________________________________...
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Well Greg you see this is what I felt was happening at first and I was not thionkinh what Andrew poited out but thats why its good to have others opnions . So...
Judy Rivas
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If it weren't for the fact that the soon-to-be new owners seem to already be exerting their influence I'd be inclined to suspect a salary-dump as well. But...
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Andrew to true Fans baseball is not all about money To me Casey is more than what you say Everyone to their own opnion to each this own Judy andrew2@......
Judy Rivas
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You gotta win, bottom line. Paying Casey 8.5 was not going to get us to a WS. He was over 30, slow, only could play 1st. and was overpaid for his...
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LOL Well you guys see with your mind and I guess I see with my heart and its all good I guess so be it Lets keep this group posting how about it??????? Judy ...
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... First, when did I say anything about money? All I said was that getting a decent pitcher in return for an average-at-best first baseman is a good deal....
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I did not mean YOU did say it was all about money and I did not mean to imply YOUR not a True Fan you sure sound like on to me I was just saying it wasn't...
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I hope your right!!! How long have you been a FAN?????? Judy andrew2@... wrote: If it weren't for the fact that the soon-to-be new owners seem to already...
Judy Rivas
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I think the Pirates got a pretty good deal, Sean gets to play near his home town, the Reds unclogged their outfield and freed up 8 mil to go after some more...
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