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Re: [ChicagoCubsfanclub] Re: Roosevelt Brown

     Yes I certainly hope so!   I think that MacPhail gave up on Brown way to quickly!
Neil


In a message dated 1/11/2003 10:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, gmrstudios2@... writes:

In a message dated 1/11/03 9:40:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, ChicagoCubsfanclub@yahoogroups.com writes:


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Last year, Brown hit .211 with three homers and 23 RBI in 204 at  bats. For his career, he is a .251 hitter.
jim in iowa
gmrstudios2@... wrote:In a message dated 1/10/03 9:28:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, ChicagoCubsfanclub@yahoogroups.com writes:


I liked Brown, but the fact of the matter was that he did not produce in the playing time the Cubs gave him. He is no super star or he would be playing for some other big league team. But maybe he will have a chance to mature playing in Japan for a year or two. I don't believe he was ever gonna get it done with the Cubs though. That's my opinion.
jim in iowa



I Hope MacPhail isn't just evaluating players based on batting average.
BA only shows hits. Homers helps to achieve a more well rounded view of a player, but RBIs is really a team stat unless you believe in clutch performance. I do, but many do not.

in 204 At Bats Through 9/29, Rosie batted .211/.299/.314
which wields a pathetic OPS of .613.

He did have 23 walks in 204 at bats, which is not too terrible. That show some patience. There are many players who are much worse. That's a rate of one walk ever 8.8 at bats. That's not fabulous but it's better than many.
Sammy walks every 5.3 at bats. Of course, Barry Bonds has the sickest walk rate in the majors (of all time, I think).

Rosie's stats are unspectacular across the board. He has the potential for power, but hasn't shown much yet. He has the potential to hit better, but .613 OPS is awful.

I agree that some years, even one year, in Japan may season him. Maybe the Cubs plan to reacquire him if he shows more pop and/or patience.

GO CUBS
chris







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In a message dated 1/10/03 9:28:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, ... any one have his numbers handy? peace cbt...
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Last year, Brown hit .211 with three homers and 23 RBI in 204 at bats. For his career, he is a .251 hitter. jim in iowa gmrstudios2@... wrote:In a message...
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Remember though, he was one of the rookies last year along with Cory Paterson in centerfield. I remember he showed a lot of promise and he had really come...
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In a message dated 1/11/03 9:40:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, ... I Hope MacPhail isn't just evaluating players based on batting average. BA only shows hits....
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I agree completely with Jim in Iowa. Roosevelt Brown is one of these guys who hits .358 in the minors and .158 in the majors. He had his chances last year and...
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WATER PUTS OUT FIRE! Every good coach knows if you load a team with water signs the fire signs are not going to do much good. The Cubs are so overloaded with...
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Get this spam out of this baseball group. Such hogwash. Don't waste our time with your mythologies. jim in iowa "Brian <holy_instant@...>"...
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Yes I certainly hope so! I think that MacPhail gave up on Brown way to quickly! Neil In a message dated 1/11/2003 10:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,...
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So basically you're saying that given a little time, even you think that Brown would have turned into something pretty good. Neil In a message dated 1/13/2003...
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While it is possible Brown might be a decent part-time outfielder somewhere, the Cubs could not afford to keep waiting for that to happen. I think this move is...
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Yeah I agree. Look what happened with Gary Matthews Jr. The Cubs let him go, although MacPhail had said he was hoping he would make it through waivers,...
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Define pretty well. He was let go by Pittsburgh and is now with Baltimore. They signed him the other day for a $900,000 contract. That is an extreme insult. I...
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$900,000 an insult???? Wow, you must make some pretty good money to be insulted by a one year $900,000 dollar offer. I do okay for myself, however I...
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LOL, wish I made that much. I am a $32,000 newspaper editor. But anyway, Sarge Jr. did have a decent year last year, hitting .276 with 7 homers and 38 rbi in ...
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Yeah I would have to agree with you on that! It's time! I think he will have another good year though! Neil In a message dated 1/20/2003 8:15:00 AM...
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