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Yet another stupid post by Hekel. Yeah right pitch counts dont matter


-Tell that to Prior,Wood and Morris who were all 1-2-3 in pitch
counts in 2003 and who all had arm injuries in 2004 and spent more
than half the year on the DL. People like Hekel always use that old
tired b.s. about how the old timers pitched 9 innings and never
missed a start blah blah fucking blah. I lmfao everytime some clown
makes that stupid statement. The real truth is that in the 50-60s the
average pitch per count per game was only around 90 pitches a game.--
In ChicagoCubsfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Jim Hekel <jhekelcubs@y...>
wrote:
> Totally disagree. Pitch count is the most useless stat out there.
Pitchers should pitch. Injuries happen.
>
> jim in indiana
>
> B <brianinvegas2002@y...> wrote:
> Jim-
>
> I disagree. Went way too far into games back in the Bartman days.
Dusty knew we had no pen and that contributed to his arm problems.
Guess what? We still have no pen!
>
> Brian in Vegas!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hekel <jhekelcubs@y...>
> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:32:00
> To:ChicagoCubsfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ChicagoCubsfanclub] Too Much, Too Soon
>
> Welcome to the club. Where are you from? The Cubs have made very
good decisions about Kerry, who will start the home opener on Friday.
I expect this to be his biggest year. But you are welcome to your
opinion.
>
> jim in indiana
>
> mornshift516 <mornshift516@y...> wrote:
> Hello. I'm new here. I would like to start off my posts by talking
> about what may be a controversial topic. A bad decision the Cubs
made
> and keep making: Kerry Wood. This player was used too much too soon
> and it may have cost Wood a promising career and the Chicago Cubs
what
> could have been one of their best commodities. Had they used him
> sparingly in his first few years in the Bigs, he might not have
> developed the arms problems from which he now suffers. Moreover, he
> should not have been seen as a fix to a poor pitching staff. He was
> nearly a band aid. Like all band-aids, and sadly so for Wood, he
> shriveled and broke down. I think Wood's best years are behind him,
> if he even was allowed to have those.
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Mon Apr 4, 2005 11:07 pm

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Hello. I'm new here. I would like to start off my posts by talking about what may be a controversial topic. A bad decision the Cubs made and keep making:...
mornshift516
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Apr 4, 2005
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Welcome to the club. Where are you from? The Cubs have made very good decisions about Kerry, who will start the home opener on Friday. I expect this to be his...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 4, 2005
10:32 pm

Northbrook, IL. Northsider all the way ... Scott Pearlstein 4064 Lindenwood Northbrook, IL. 60062 Phone: 847-498-2451 Cell: 847-530-9344 ...
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Apr 4, 2005
10:33 pm

The reason I ask is that we have a heckler on some of these Cub boards who is really a Cardinal fan. He has numerous email addies and just comes on to get on...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 4, 2005
10:37 pm

Jim- I disagree. Went way too far into games back in the Bartman days. Dusty knew we had no pen and that contributed to his arm problems. Guess what? We...
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Apr 4, 2005
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Totally disagree. Pitch count is the most useless stat out there. Pitchers should pitch. Injuries happen. jim in indiana B <brianinvegas2002@...> wrote: ...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 4, 2005
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-Tell that to Prior,Wood and Morris who were all 1-2-3 in pitch counts in 2003 and who all had arm injuries in 2004 and spent more than half the year on the...
pingzinger2
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Apr 4, 2005
11:07 pm

Don't forget that the game has also evolved more. Coaches are seeing that a batter not taking pitches is a good. Pitchers are throwing more because the game's...
Scott Pearlstein
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Apr 4, 2005
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Agreed PingZinger! Glad to see you are a true fan! ... From: "pingzinger2" <pingzinger2@...> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:07:41 ...
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brianinvegas...
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-Brian you shouldnt ever agree with me because they'll just put you on ignore thinking that your me. But simple common sense would tell you that pitch counts...
pingzinger2
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Apr 5, 2005
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Hey bro! If you can't root for the Cubs you are not a true fan! B ... From: "pingzinger2" <pingzinger2@...> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:22:52 ...
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I thought personal attacks weren't allowed in this group. It's all right to disagree, but comments like this are petty and childish....
Robert Dvorak
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Apr 5, 2005
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Robert, you might be new here, but Ping / Peo *IS* petty and childish! He lives on this list in his many different screen names (same bad personality), for...
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Apr 5, 2005
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Lea, I am so glad there are alternative groups to this one that he isn't allowed to join and Nicki's group is one of them. Her group is so much superior to...
Ron Schultz
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Ron, thanks much. I believe you emailed me on this list before with your nice 'offer' or suggestion of joining another Cubs group, and I am ALL FOR joining...
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Apr 5, 2005
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Lea, Nicki's group is called The Friendly Confines and I believe you can join by going to Yawhoo Groups dotcom and you should get instructions on what to do...
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Hey Jim! Injuries happen when you are overworked with no pen. Today's game is much different from when most pitchers went 9 innings. Throwing junk does this...
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Apr 4, 2005
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Pitchers have been throwing junk for years. It's nothing new. I really don't get your point at all. I think the Cubs have improved their bullpen quite a bit. I...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 5, 2005
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Tell that the mother who just took her soon to bone and joint doctor because his coach keeps having him through curves and the kid can't bend his elbow. ... ...
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Apr 4, 2005
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What does that have to do with Kerry Wood? jim in indiana Scott Pearlstein <mornshift516@...> wrote: Tell that the mother who just took her soon to bone ...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 5, 2005
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Pls explain how our pen got better? ... From: Jim Hekel <jhekelcubs@...> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:16:03 To:ChicagoCubsfanclub@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
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Three good lefties. Borowski will be back at end of April. Young kids gaining experience. Enjoy the pennant race. It's going to be a great season. jim in...
Jim Hekel
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Apr 5, 2005
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... talking ... made ... soon ... what ... he ... was ... him, ... ************************************** Starting pitchers are paid and paid well to pitch....
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