I see Newcastle are now the lastest club to go for an untried manager in Alan
Shearer, who has a similar standing with their fans as Gunny has with us. So
we're not the only club to follow this method.




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Yes, I believe the story is that she was expected to support Ipswich as she
lived in Suffolk, so she turned up in an Ipswich scarf, but when the cameras
were on her she flipped over her blue and white scarf to reveal the yellow
and green City scarf! MLS

2009/3/28 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

>   did she not end up wearing an ipshit scarf? Something you would NEVER
> see me wearing!
>
> I'd possibly wipe my ar** with one though!
>
>
> MLS wrote:
> >
> > Delia 'came out' as a City fan long before the success we had in the 90s!
> > Indeed, she infamously wore a City scarf on Swap Shop in 1978, when
> > she was
> > invited to discuss Ipswich's trip to the FA Cup final. So I think her
> > devotion to the cause is beyond reproach - even if you may have concerns
> > about how she has allowed the Club to be run under her ownership. MLS
> >
> > 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com><mailto:
> clark.alan3%40sky.com <clark.alan3%2540sky.com>>>
> >
> > > Martin,i will not judge her until the true facts are known..A mate
> > > trying to wind me up,who supports spurs,says she is a member of the
> 90`s
> > > celeb brigade who came out of the woodwork when it was fashionable to
> be
> > > connected to a club,especially your local club,as football became a
> > fashion
> > > sector in that decade...If he had said fry, i wouldve agreed,but del? i
> > > think,hope, she is the real deal and when all the press,message forum
> > > sniping and gossiping have been put to bed , the true facts will come
> > > out,and yellow and green blood runs through her...This,at the moment is
> > > hopefull wishing...and as for cull, again paper talk and statements
> > that are
> > > veiled,is all we have,"who put a ban on the minutes being printed
> > for that
> > > board room meeting in june?" again people say,"i have inside info it
> was
> > > delia" others say it was cullum who insisted! When it is all out and
> > done
> > > with then depending on what is giving or taken ,then i will
> > judge...-----
> > > Original Message -----
> > > From: MLS
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City
> > supporter? Does
> > > he even attend matches?
> > >
> > > By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job:
> > "the two
> > > of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said
> > that.
> > > Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
> > > personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have
> > > stuck
> > > £10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the
> > > cost
> > > of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable
> > amount
> > > of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now
> > being
> > > seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."
> > >
> > > Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it
> > suggests
> > > that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
> > > entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude
> > (£1.7bn
> > > compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m
> > if it
> > > slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS
> > >
> > > 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com>
> > <mailto:clark.alan3%40sky.com <clark.alan3%2540sky.com>> <clark.alan3%
> 40sky.com>>
>
> > >
> > > > How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
> > > >
> > > > My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
> > > > loving
> > > > giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the
> > club....
> > > > the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to
> improve
> > > NCFC
> > > >
> > > > Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> > > > fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> > > > So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i
> > enquired
> > > > with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
> > > > investment
> > > > in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust
> > investment in a
> > > > old
> > > > building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a
> > donation to
> > > > ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
> > > >
> > > > In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20
> > > years
> > > > down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> > > > norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure
> > they had
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow
> > them to
> > > do
> > > >
> > > > it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e
> like
> > > > Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the
> > > clubs
> > > > they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@... <jezbooker%40hotmail.com>
> > <mailto:jezbooker%40hotmail.com <jezbooker%2540hotmail.com>> <jezbooker%
> 40hotmail.com><jezbooker%
> > > 40hotmail.com>>
> > > > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > if he meant that, he would have said that.
> > > >
> > > > sheeeez.
> > > >
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > From: clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com> <mailto:
> clark.alan3%40sky.com <clark.alan3%2540sky.com>>
> > <clark.alan3%40sky.com> <clark.alan3%40sky.com
> > > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
> > > > hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without
> > expecting it
> > > > back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on
> > the board
> > > > so
> > > > the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure
> > stupid
> > > > appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?,
> > if so
> > > > good point..
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: ianstamp@... <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk> <mailto:
> ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk <ianstamp%2540ukonline.co.uk>>
> > <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk> <ianstamp%
> > > 40ukonline.co.uk>
> > > >
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> > > > letting
> > > >
> > > > some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing
> > (since
> > > > all
> > > >
> > > > the £20m offered was to go on players).
> > > >
> > > > If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> > > > certainly
> > > >
> > > > wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came
> along
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign
> the
> > > > whole
> > > >
> > > > house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
> > > >
> > > > And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the
> > market
> > > > price
> > > >
> > > > was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
> > > >
> > > > (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC
> > shares,
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last
> > accounts,
> > > > where
> > > >
> > > > shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Brian Burrell
<bwburrell@...<bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com <bwburrell%2540btinternet.com>
> ><bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
>
> > > <bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > > > >:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going
> > over
> > > > > board
> > > >
> > > > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the
> > players
> > > >
> > > > > altitude.
> > > >
> > > > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took
> > over in
> > > > 1996,
> > > >
> > > > > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> > > club
> > > > when
> > > >
> > > > > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m.
> > She also
> > > > said
> > > >
> > > > > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> > > > Cullum
> > > >
> > > > > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> > > > small for
> > > >
> > > > > all the egos to fit in.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
> > <http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
> > > >
> > > > 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > From: MLS
> > > >
> > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent
> signs
> > > > have
> > > >
> > > > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>
> > <mailto:mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk <mwenn%2540tiscali.co.uk>> <mwenn%
> 40tiscali.co.uk><mwenn%
> > > 40tiscali.co.uk>>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > I came up with:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Bottom :
> > > >
> > > > > > Forest 50
> > > >
> > > > > > City 49
> > > >
> > > > > > South't 48
> > > >
> > > > > > Charlt 36
> > > >
> > > > > > Ipshit -100
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Brian Burrell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > > > From: Alan clark
> > > >
> > > > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:
> > > >
> > > > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise
> > me.. :)
> > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > > > From: Brian Burrell
> > > >
> > > > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:
> > > >
> > > > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > > >
> > > > > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship
> > games to
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with
> > yellow
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > > >
> > > > > > > Top 6
> > > >
> > > > > > > Wolvers 88
> > > >
> > > > > > > Birm 87
> > > >
> > > > > > > Read 85
> > > >
> > > > > > > Cardiff 79
> > > >
> > > > > > > Swans 71
> > > >
> > > > > > > Sheff U 71
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Bottom 6
> > > >
> > > > > > > Plym 50
> > > >
> > > > > > > City 49
> > > >
> > > > > > > Barns 49
> > > >
> > > > > > > South't 48
> > > >
> > > > > > > Notts 48
> > > >
> > > > > > > Charlt 36
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Fingers crossed
> > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
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> > > > <mailto:
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's
> > > update
> > > >
> > > > > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham.
> > We were
> > > >
> > > > > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > > >
> > > > > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a
> > valuable
> > > >
> > > > > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the
> > goal! Nice
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > see Lappin start too.
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> > > > looked
> > > >
> > > > > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice
> > of music
> > > >
> > > > > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > > >
> > > > > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> > > > analogue -
> > > >
> > > > > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> > > > screen.
> > > >
> > > > > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I
> > > couldn't
> > > >
> > > > > > > see the full picture.
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with
> > > winning
> > > >
> > > > > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a
> few
> > > > weeks
> > > >
> > > > > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> > > >
> > > > > > >
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did she not end up wearing an ipshit scarf?  Something you would NEVER
see me wearing!

I'd possibly wipe my ar** with one though!

MLS wrote:
>
> Delia 'came out' as a City fan long before the success we had in the 90s!
> Indeed, she infamously wore a City scarf on Swap Shop in 1978, when
> she was
> invited to discuss Ipswich's trip to the FA Cup final. So I think her
> devotion to the cause is beyond reproach - even if you may have concerns
> about how she has allowed the Club to be run under her ownership. MLS
>
> 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@... <mailto:clark.alan3%40sky.com>>
>
> > Martin,i will not judge her until the true facts are known..A mate
> > trying to wind me up,who supports spurs,says she is a member of the 90`s
> > celeb brigade who came out of the woodwork when it was fashionable to be
> > connected to a club,especially your local club,as football became a
> fashion
> > sector in that decade...If he had said fry, i wouldve agreed,but del? i
> > think,hope, she is the real deal and when all the press,message forum
> > sniping and gossiping have been put to bed , the true facts will come
> > out,and yellow and green blood runs through her...This,at the moment is
> > hopefull wishing...and as for cull, again paper talk and statements
> that are
> > veiled,is all we have,"who put a ban on the minutes being printed
> for that
> > board room meeting in june?" again people say,"i have inside info it was
> > delia" others say it was cullum who insisted! When it is all out and
> done
> > with then depending on what is giving or taken ,then i will
> judge...-----
> > Original Message -----
> > From: MLS
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City
> supporter? Does
> > he even attend matches?
> >
> > By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job:
> "the two
> > of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said
> that.
> > Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
> > personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have
> > stuck
> > £10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the
> > cost
> > of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable
> amount
> > of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now
> being
> > seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."
> >
> > Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it
> suggests
> > that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
> > entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude
> (£1.7bn
> > compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m
> if it
> > slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS
> >
> > 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@...
> <mailto:clark.alan3%40sky.com> <clark.alan3%40sky.com>>
> >
> > > How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
> > >
> > > My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
> > > loving
> > > giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the
> club....
> > > the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve
> > NCFC
> > >
> > > Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> > > fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> > > So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i
> enquired
> > > with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
> > > investment
> > > in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust
> investment in a
> > > old
> > > building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a
> donation to
> > > ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
> > >
> > > In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20
> > years
> > > down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> > > norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure
> they had
> > the
> > >
> > > same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow
> them to
> > do
> > >
> > > it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
> > > Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the
> > clubs
> > > they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...
> <mailto:jezbooker%40hotmail.com> <jezbooker%40hotmail.com><jezbooker%
> > 40hotmail.com>>
> > > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>
> <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > if he meant that, he would have said that.
> > >
> > > sheeeez.
> > >
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > From: clark.alan3@... <mailto:clark.alan3%40sky.com>
> <clark.alan3%40sky.com> <clark.alan3%40sky.com
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
> > > hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without
> expecting it
> > > back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on
> the board
> > > so
> > > the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure
> stupid
> > > appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?,
> if so
> > > good point..
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: ianstamp@... <mailto:ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk>
> <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk> <ianstamp%
> > 40ukonline.co.uk>
> > >
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> > > letting
> > >
> > > some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing
> (since
> > > all
> > >
> > > the £20m offered was to go on players).
> > >
> > > If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> > > certainly
> > >
> > > wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along
> > and
> > >
> > > said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> > > whole
> > >
> > > house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
> > >
> > > And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the
> market
> > > price
> > >
> > > was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
> > >
> > > (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC
> shares,
> > > the
> > >
> > > only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last
> accounts,
> > > where
> > >
> > > shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
> > >
> > > Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...
> <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com><bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > <bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > > >:
> > >
> > > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going
> over
> > > > board
> > >
> > > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the
> players
> > >
> > > > altitude.
> > >
> > > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took
> over in
> > > 1996,
> > >
> > > > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> > club
> > > when
> > >
> > > > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m.
> She also
> > > said
> > >
> > > > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> > > Cullum
> > >
> > > > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> > > small for
> > >
> > > > all the egos to fit in.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
> <http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
> > >
> > > 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Brian
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > From: MLS
> > >
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> > > have
> > >
> > > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...
> <mailto:mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk> <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk><mwenn%
> > 40tiscali.co.uk>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > I came up with:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Bottom :
> > >
> > > > > Forest 50
> > >
> > > > > City 49
> > >
> > > > > South't 48
> > >
> > > > > Charlt 36
> > >
> > > > > Ipshit -100
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Brian Burrell wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > > > From: Alan clark
> > >
> > > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:
> > >
> > > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise
> me.. :)
> > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > > > From: Brian Burrell
> > >
> > > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:
> > >
> > > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > >
> > > > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship
> games to
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with
> yellow
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > >
> > > > > > Top 6
> > >
> > > > > > Wolvers 88
> > >
> > > > > > Birm 87
> > >
> > > > > > Read 85
> > >
> > > > > > Cardiff 79
> > >
> > > > > > Swans 71
> > >
> > > > > > Sheff U 71
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Bottom 6
> > >
> > > > > > Plym 50
> > >
> > > > > > City 49
> > >
> > > > > > Barns 49
> > >
> > > > > > South't 48
> > >
> > > > > > Notts 48
> > >
> > > > > > Charlt 36
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Fingers crossed
> > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > > > From: zoesveryhappy@...
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> <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk><zoesveryhappy%
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> > > 40yahoo.co.uk>
> > > <mailto:
> > >
> > > > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > >
> > > > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>
> <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%
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> > > <mailto:
> > >
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> > >
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's
> > update
> > >
> > > > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham.
> We were
> > >
> > > > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > >
> > > > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a
> valuable
> > >
> > > > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the
> goal! Nice
> > > to
> > >
> > > > > > see Lappin start too.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> > > looked
> > >
> > > > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice
> of music
> > >
> > > > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > >
> > > > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> > > analogue -
> > >
> > > > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> > > screen.
> > >
> > > > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I
> > couldn't
> > >
> > > > > > see the full picture.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with
> > winning
> > >
> > > > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> > > weeks
> > >
> > > > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> > >
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I always used to like her cookery slots on Swap Shop - great Saturday morning
telly!

--- On Fri, 27/3/09, MLS <mls11x@...> wrote:


From: MLS <mls11x@...>
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 27 March, 2009, 9:29 PM






Delia 'came out' as a City fan long before the success we had in the 90s!
Indeed, she infamously wore a City scarf on Swap Shop in 1978, when she was
invited to discuss Ipswich's trip to the FA Cup final. So I think her
devotion to the cause is beyond reproach - even if you may have concerns
about how she has allowed the Club to be run under her ownership. MLS

2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@ sky.com>

> Martin,i will not judge her until the true facts are known..A mate
> trying to wind me up,who supports spurs,says she is a member of the 90`s
> celeb brigade who came out of the woodwork when it was fashionable to be
> connected to a club,especially your local club,as football became a fashion
> sector in that decade...If he had said fry, i wouldve agreed,but del? i
> think,hope, she is the real deal and when all the press,message forum
> sniping and gossiping have been put to bed , the true facts will come
> out,and yellow and green blood runs through her...This,at the moment is
> hopefull wishing...and as for cull, again paper talk and statements that are
> veiled,is all we have,"who put a ban on the minutes being printed for that
> board room meeting in june?" again people say,"i have inside info it was
> delia" others say it was cullum who insisted! When it is all out and done
> with then depending on what is giving or taken ,then i will judge...---- -
> Original Message -----
> From: MLS
> To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City supporter? Does
> he even attend matches?
>
> By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job: "the two
> of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said that.
> Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
> personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have
> stuck
> £10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the
> cost
> of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable amount
> of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now being
> seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."
>
> Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it suggests
> that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
> entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude (£1.7bn
> compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m if it
> slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS
>
> 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@ sky.com <clark.alan3% 40sky.com> >
>
> > How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
> >
> > My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
> > loving
> > giving sibling/the culinary benefactor.. ... the loved parent/the club....
> > the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve
> NCFC
> >
> > Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> > fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> > So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
> > with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
> > investment
> > in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a
> > old
> > building),and didnt see it as a business transaction, but as a donation to
> > ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
> >
> > In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20
> years
> > down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> > norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had
> the
> >
> > same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to
> do
> >
> > it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich, back! I.e like
> > Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the
> clubs
> > they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@hotmail. com <jezbooker%40hotmai
l.com><jezbooker %
> 40hotmail.com> >
> > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups. com <cn%40yahoogroups. com> <cn%
> 40yahoogroups. com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > if he meant that, he would have said that.
> >
> > sheeeez.
> >
> > To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com> <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> > From: clark.alan3@ sky.com <clark.alan3% 40sky.com> <clark.alan3% 40sky.com
> >
> > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
> > hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
> > back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board
> > so
> > the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
> > appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
> > good point..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: ianstamp@ukonline. co.uk <ianstamp%40ukonlin e.co.uk> <ianstamp%
> 40ukonline.co. uk>
> >
> > To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com> <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> > letting
> >
> > some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
> > all
> >
> > the £20m offered was to go on players).
> >
> > If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> > certainly
> >
> > wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along
> and
> >
> > said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> > whole
> >
> > house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
> >
> > And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> > price
> >
> > was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
> >
> > (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> > the
> >
> > only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> > where
> >
> > shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
> >
> > Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@btinterne t.com<bwburrell%40btinte
rnet.com>
> <bwburrell%40btinte rnet.com>
> > >:
> >
> > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > > board
> >
> > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> >
> > > altitude.
> >
> > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> > 1996,
> >
> > > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club
> > when
> >
> > > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> > said
> >
> > > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> > Cullum
> >
> > > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> > small for
> >
> > > all the egos to fit in.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > http://new.edp24. co.uk/content/ sport/story. aspx?
> >
> >
> >
> brand=EDPOnline& category= Sport&tBrand= EDPOnline& tCategory= Sport&itemid=
NOED23%
> >
> > 20Mar%202009% 2017%3A07% 3A23%3A927
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Brian
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: MLS
> >
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com> <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> > have
> >
> > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@tiscali. co.uk <mwenn%40tiscali. co.uk><mwenn%
> 40tiscali.co. uk>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I came up with:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Bottom :
> >
> > > > Forest 50
> >
> > > > City 49
> >
> > > > South't 48
> >
> > > > Charlt 36
> >
> > > > Ipshit -100
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> >
> > > > > Brian
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: Alan clark
> >
> > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com> <CN%
> 40yahoogroups. com> <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > CN%40yahoogroups. com <CN%2540yahoogroups .com>>
> >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: Brian Burrell
> >
> > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups. com <CN%40yahoogroups. com> <CN%
> 40yahoogroups. com> <CN%40yahoogroups. com>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > CN%40yahoogroups. com <CN%2540yahoogroups .com>>
> >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> >
> > > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> > the
> >
> > > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> > and
> >
> > > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> >
> > > > > Top 6
> >
> > > > > Wolvers 88
> >
> > > > > Birm 87
> >
> > > > > Read 85
> >
> > > > > Cardiff 79
> >
> > > > > Swans 71
> >
> > > > > Sheff U 71
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Bottom 6
> >
> > > > > Plym 50
> >
> > > > > City 49
> >
> > > > > Barns 49
> >
> > > > > South't 48
> >
> > > > > Notts 48
> >
> > > > > Charlt 36
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Fingers crossed
> >
> > > > > Brian
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: zoesveryhappy@ yahoo.co. uk <zoesveryhappy% 40yahoo.co.
uk><zoesveryhapp y%
> 40yahoo.co.uk> <zoesveryhappy%
> > 40yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > zoesveryhappy% 40yahoo.co. uk <zoesveryhappy% 2540yahoo. co.uk>>
> >
> > > > > To: cn@yahoogroups. com <cn%40yahoogroups. com> <cn%
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> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > cn%40yahoogroups. com <cn%2540yahoogroups .com>>
> >
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> >
> > > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's
> update
> >
> > > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> >
> > > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> >
> > > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> >
> > > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
> > to
> >
> > > > > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> > looked
> >
> > > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> >
> > > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> >
> > > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> > analogue -
> >
> > > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> > screen.
> >
> > > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I
> couldn't
> >
> > > > > see the full picture.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with
> winning
> >
> > > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> > weeks
> >
> > > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
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Board have fecked the club - simple as



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: ianstamp@...
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:02:46 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





Alan, my Dad's house isn't just bricks and mortar to him! (any more than NCFC
is to me, or I suspect, most if not all of the board).
And it is only an analogy anyway.
But yes, if the 'dodgy bloke' wanted to buy the new windows, and wanted
control over that expenditure, to ensure we didn't spend it on wine women and
song, or even fax machines, I would be quite happy for him to be involved, but
still wouldn't give him any equity!

Quoting Alan clark <clark.alan3@...>:

> How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
>
> My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the loving
>
> giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
> the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC
>
> Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
> with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an investment
>
> in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a old
>
> building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
> ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
>
> In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
> down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
> same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
> it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
> Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
> they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
> To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
> if he meant that, he would have said that.
>
> sheeeez.
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> From: clark.alan3@...
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
>
> hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
> back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so
>
> the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
> appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
> good point..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ianstamp@...
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
> There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> letting
>
> some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
> all
>
> the £20m offered was to go on players).
>
>
>
> If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
>
> wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
>
> said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> whole
>
> house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
>
> And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> price
>
> was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
>
>
>
> (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> the
>
> only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> where
>
> shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
>
>
>
> Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:
>
>
>
> > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > board
>
> > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
>
> > altitude.
>
> > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996,
>
> > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
>
> when
>
> > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> said
>
> > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> Cullum
>
> > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> small for
>
> > all the egos to fit in.
>
> >
>
> > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
>
>
>
brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
>
> 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
>
> >
>
> > Brian
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: MLS
>
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> have
>
> > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
> >
>
> > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
>
> >
>
> > > I came up with:
>
> > >
>
> > > Bottom :
>
> > > Forest 50
>
> > > City 49
>
> > > South't 48
>
> > > Charlt 36
>
> > > Ipshit -100
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Brian Burrell wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
>
> > > > Brian
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: Alan clark
>
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: Brian Burrell
>
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
>
> > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> the
>
> > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> and
>
> > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
>
> > > > Top 6
>
> > > > Wolvers 88
>
> > > > Birm 87
>
> > > > Read 85
>
> > > > Cardiff 79
>
> > > > Swans 71
>
> > > > Sheff U 71
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Bottom 6
>
> > > > Plym 50
>
> > > > City 49
>
> > > > Barns 49
>
> > > > South't 48
>
> > > > Notts 48
>
> > > > Charlt 36
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Fingers crossed
>
> > > > Brian
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
> <mailto:
>
> > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
>
> > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
> > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
>
> > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
>
> > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
>
> > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
>
> > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
>
> > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
> to
>
> > > > see Lappin start too.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> looked
>
> > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
>
> > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
>
> > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> analogue -
>
> > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> screen.
>
> > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
>
> > > > see the full picture.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
>
> > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> weeks
>
> > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
>
> > > >
>
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> > > >
>
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > >
>
> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>
> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
> > > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date:
>
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Delia 'came out' as a City fan long before the success we had in the 90s!
Indeed, she infamously wore a City scarf on Swap Shop in 1978, when she was
invited to discuss Ipswich's trip to the FA Cup final. So I think her
devotion to the cause is beyond reproach - even if you may have concerns
about how she has allowed the Club to be run under her ownership. MLS

2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@...>

>   Martin,i will not judge her until the true facts are known..A mate
> trying to wind me up,who supports spurs,says she is a member of the 90`s
> celeb brigade who came out of the woodwork when it was fashionable to be
> connected to a club,especially your local club,as football became a fashion
> sector in that decade...If he had said fry, i wouldve agreed,but del? i
> think,hope, she is the real deal and when all the press,message forum
> sniping and gossiping have been put to bed , the true facts will come
> out,and yellow and green blood runs through her...This,at the moment is
> hopefull wishing...and as for cull, again paper talk and statements that are
> veiled,is all we have,"who put a ban on the minutes being printed for that
> board room meeting in june?" again people say,"i have inside info it was
> delia" others say it was cullum who insisted! When it is all out and done
> with then depending on what is giving or taken ,then i will judge...-----
> Original Message -----
> From: MLS
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City supporter? Does
> he even attend matches?
>
> By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job: "the two
> of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said that.
> Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
> personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have
> stuck
> £10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the
> cost
> of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable amount
> of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now being
> seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."
>
> Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it suggests
> that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
> entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude (£1.7bn
> compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m if it
> slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS
>
> 2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com>>
>
> > How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
> >
> > My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
> > loving
> > giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
> > the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve
> NCFC
> >
> > Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> > fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> > So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
> > with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
> > investment
> > in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a
> > old
> > building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
> > ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
> >
> > In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20
> years
> > down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> > norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had
> the
> >
> > same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to
> do
> >
> > it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
> > Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the
> clubs
> > they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...
<jezbooker%40hotmail.com><jezbooker%
> 40hotmail.com>>
> > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > if he meant that, he would have said that.
> >
> > sheeeez.
> >
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com> <clark.alan3%40sky.com
> >
> > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
> > hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
> > back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board
> > so
> > the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
> > appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
> > good point..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: ianstamp@... <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk> <ianstamp%
> 40ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> > letting
> >
> > some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
> > all
> >
> > the £20m offered was to go on players).
> >
> > If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> > certainly
> >
> > wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along
> and
> >
> > said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> > whole
> >
> > house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
> >
> > And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> > price
> >
> > was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
> >
> > (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> > the
> >
> > only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> > where
> >
> > shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
> >
> > Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...<bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> <bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > >:
> >
> > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > > board
> >
> > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> >
> > > altitude.
> >
> > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> > 1996,
> >
> > > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club
> > when
> >
> > > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> > said
> >
> > > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> > Cullum
> >
> > > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> > small for
> >
> > > all the egos to fit in.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
> >
> >
> >
> brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
> >
> > 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Brian
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: MLS
> >
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> > have
> >
> > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk><mwenn%
> 40tiscali.co.uk>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I came up with:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Bottom :
> >
> > > > Forest 50
> >
> > > > City 49
> >
> > > > South't 48
> >
> > > > Charlt 36
> >
> > > > Ipshit -100
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> >
> > > > > Brian
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: Alan clark
> >
> > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: Brian Burrell
> >
> > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%
> 40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> >
> > > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> > the
> >
> > > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> > and
> >
> > > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> >
> > > > > Top 6
> >
> > > > > Wolvers 88
> >
> > > > > Birm 87
> >
> > > > > Read 85
> >
> > > > > Cardiff 79
> >
> > > > > Swans 71
> >
> > > > > Sheff U 71
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Bottom 6
> >
> > > > > Plym 50
> >
> > > > > City 49
> >
> > > > > Barns 49
> >
> > > > > South't 48
> >
> > > > > Notts 48
> >
> > > > > Charlt 36
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Fingers crossed
> >
> > > > > Brian
> >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > > > From: zoesveryhappy@...
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> > 40yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:
> >
> > > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> >
> > > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%
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> >
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> >
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> >
> > > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's
> update
> >
> > > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> >
> > > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> >
> > > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> >
> > > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
> > to
> >
> > > > > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> > looked
> >
> > > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> >
> > > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> >
> > > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> > analogue -
> >
> > > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> > screen.
> >
> > > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I
> couldn't
> >
> > > > > see the full picture.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with
> winning
> >
> > > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> > weeks
> >
> > > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
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Alan, my Dad's house isn't just bricks and mortar to him! (any more than NCFC
is to me, or I suspect, most if not all of the board).
And it is only an analogy anyway.
But yes, if the 'dodgy bloke' wanted to buy the new windows, and wanted
control over that expenditure, to ensure we didn't spend it on wine women and
song, or even fax machines, I would be quite happy for him to be involved, but
still wouldn't give him any equity!


Quoting Alan clark <clark.alan3@...>:

> How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query?  SHEEEEEZ!
>
> My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the loving
>
> giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
> the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC
>
> Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
> with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an investment
>
> in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a old
>
> building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
> ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
>
> In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
> down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
> same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
> it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back!   I.e like
> Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
> they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
> To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
> if he meant that, he would have said that.
>
> sheeeez.
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> From: clark.alan3@...
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
>
> hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
> back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so
>
> the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
> appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
> good point..
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: ianstamp@...
>
>   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
>
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
>
>   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
> There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> letting
>
>   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
> all
>
>   the £20m offered was to go on players).
>
>
>
> If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
>
>   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
>
>   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> whole
>
>   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
>
>   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> price
>
>   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
>
>
>
> (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> the
>
>   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> where
>
>   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
>
>
>
> Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:
>
>
>
> > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > board
>
>   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
>
>   > altitude.
>
>   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996,
>
>   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
>
> when
>
>   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> said
>
>   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> Cullum
>
>   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> small for
>
>   > all the egos to fit in.
>
>   >
>
>   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
>
>
>
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>
>   > Brian
>
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>
>   > From: MLS
>
>   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
>
>   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
>
>   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>   >
>
>   >
>
>   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> have
>
>   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
>   >
>
>   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
>
>   >
>
>   > > I came up with:
>
>   > >
>
>   > > Bottom :
>
>   > > Forest 50
>
>   > > City 49
>
>   > > South't 48
>
>   > > Charlt 36
>
>   > > Ipshit -100
>
>   > >
>
>   > >
>
>   > > Brian Burrell wrote:
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
>
>   > > > Brian
>
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
>   > > > From: Alan clark
>
>   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
>   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
>
>   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
>
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
>   > > > From: Brian Burrell
>
>   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
>   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
>
>   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
>
>   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> the
>
>   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> and
>
>   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
>
>   > > > Top 6
>
>   > > > Wolvers 88
>
>   > > > Birm 87
>
>   > > > Read 85
>
>   > > > Cardiff 79
>
>   > > > Swans 71
>
>   > > > Sheff U 71
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Bottom 6
>
>   > > > Plym 50
>
>   > > > City 49
>
>   > > > Barns 49
>
>   > > > South't 48
>
>   > > > Notts 48
>
>   > > > Charlt 36
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Fingers crossed
>
>   > > > Brian
>
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
>   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
> <mailto:
>
>   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
>
>   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>
>   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
>
>   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
>
>   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
>
>   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
>
>   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
>
>   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
> to
>
>   > > > see Lappin start too.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> looked
>
>   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
>
>   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
>
>   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> analogue -
>
>   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> screen.
>
>   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
>
>   > > > see the full picture.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
>
>   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> weeks
>
>   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
>
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I will never walk from NCFC,but like thousands of real fans,would fight tooth n
nail to get a proper board in,if our board turned out to be like that :).... 
1996 The CHASE Campaign.. LEST WE FORGET
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brian Burrell
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:57 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   If I was rich I too would like to invest in NCFC but also want to have some
say in how its run.
   I checked the back of the sofa as suggested gaining 10p and an old sweet! Par
for the course I think.
   If NCFC was just bricks and mortar as some on the board it would seem like it
to be, thousands of true fans would have walked years ago.
   Brian
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Alan clark
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:36 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!

   My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the loving
   giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
   the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC

   Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
   fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
   So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
   with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an investment
   in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a old
   building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
   ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?

   In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
   down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
   norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
   same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
   it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
   Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
   they have truely supported themselves all their lives....

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
   To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
   Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

   if he meant that, he would have said that.

   sheeeez.

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   From: clark.alan3@...
   Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
   hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
   back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so
   the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
   appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
   good point..

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: ianstamp@...

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM

   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
   letting

   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
   all

   the £20m offered was to go on players).

   If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly

   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and

   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
   whole

   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!

   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
   price

   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

   (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
   the

   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
   where

   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

   Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
   > board

   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players

   > altitude.

   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
   1996,

   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
   when

   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
   said

   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
   Cullum

   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
   small for

   > all the egos to fit in.

   >

   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?

   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%

   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

   >

   > Brian

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: MLS

   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM

   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   >

   >

   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
   have

   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

   >

   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

   >

   > > I came up with:

   > >

   > > Bottom :

   > > Forest 50

   > > City 49

   > > South't 48

   > > Charlt 36

   > > Ipshit -100

   > >

   > >

   > > Brian Burrell wrote:

   > > >

   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Alan clark

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Brian Burrell

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.

   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
   the

   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
   and

   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.

   > > > Top 6

   > > > Wolvers 88

   > > > Birm 87

   > > > Read 85

   > > > Cardiff 79

   > > > Swans 71

   > > > Sheff U 71

   > > >

   > > > Bottom 6

   > > > Plym 50

   > > > City 49

   > > > Barns 49

   > > > South't 48

   > > > Notts 48

   > > > Charlt 36

   > > >

   > > > Fingers crossed

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
   <mailto:

   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>

   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM

   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update

   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were

   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when

   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?

   > > >

   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable

   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
   to

   > > > see Lappin start too.

   > > >

   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
   looked

   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music

   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')

   > > >

   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1

   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
   analogue -

   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
   screen.

   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't

   > > > see the full picture.

   > > >

   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning

   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
   weeks

   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure

   > > >

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If I was rich I too would like to invest in NCFC but also want to have some say
in how its run.
I checked the back of the sofa as suggested gaining 10p and an old sweet! Par
for the course I think.
If NCFC was just bricks and mortar as some on the board it would seem like it to
be, thousands of true fans would have walked years ago.
Brian
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Alan clark
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:36 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!

   My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the loving
   giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
   the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC

   Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
   fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
   So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
   with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an investment
   in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a old
   building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
   ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?

   In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
   down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
   norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
   same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
   it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
   Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
   they have truely supported themselves all their lives....

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
   To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
   Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

   if he meant that, he would have said that.

   sheeeez.

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   From: clark.alan3@...
   Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
   hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
   back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so
   the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
   appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
   good point..

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: ianstamp@...

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM

   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
   letting

   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
   all

   the £20m offered was to go on players).

   If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly

   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and

   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
   whole

   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!

   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
   price

   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

   (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
   the

   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
   where

   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

   Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
   > board

   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players

   > altitude.

   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
   1996,

   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
   when

   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
   said

   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
   Cullum

   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
   small for

   > all the egos to fit in.

   >

   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?

   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%

   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

   >

   > Brian

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: MLS

   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM

   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   >

   >

   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
   have

   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

   >

   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

   >

   > > I came up with:

   > >

   > > Bottom :

   > > Forest 50

   > > City 49

   > > South't 48

   > > Charlt 36

   > > Ipshit -100

   > >

   > >

   > > Brian Burrell wrote:

   > > >

   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Alan clark

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Brian Burrell

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.

   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
   the

   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
   and

   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.

   > > > Top 6

   > > > Wolvers 88

   > > > Birm 87

   > > > Read 85

   > > > Cardiff 79

   > > > Swans 71

   > > > Sheff U 71

   > > >

   > > > Bottom 6

   > > > Plym 50

   > > > City 49

   > > > Barns 49

   > > > South't 48

   > > > Notts 48

   > > > Charlt 36

   > > >

   > > > Fingers crossed

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
   <mailto:

   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>

   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM

   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update

   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were

   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when

   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?

   > > >

   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable

   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
   to

   > > > see Lappin start too.

   > > >

   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
   looked

   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music

   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')

   > > >

   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1

   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
   analogue -

   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
   screen.

   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't

   > > > see the full picture.

   > > >

   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning

   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
   weeks

   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure

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Martin,i will not judge her until the true facts are known..A mate trying to
wind me up,who supports spurs,says she is a member of the 90`s celeb brigade who
came out of the woodwork when it was fashionable to be connected to a
club,especially your local club,as football  became a fashion sector in that
decade...If he had said fry, i wouldve agreed,but del? i think,hope, she is the
real deal and when all the press,message forum sniping and gossiping have been
put to bed , the true facts will come out,and yellow and green blood runs
through her...This,at the moment is hopefull wishing...and as for cull, again
paper talk and statements that are veiled,is all we have,"who put a ban on the
minutes being printed for that board room meeting in june?" again people say,"i
have inside info it was delia" others say it was cullum who insisted!  When it
is all out and done with then depending on what is giving or taken ,then i will
judge...----- Original Message -----
   From: MLS
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:56 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City supporter? Does
   he even attend matches?

   By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job: "the two
   of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said that.
   Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
   personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have stuck
   £10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the cost
   of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable amount
   of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now being
   seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."

   Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it suggests
   that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
   entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude (£1.7bn
   compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m if it
   slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS

   2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@...>

   > How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
   >
   > My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
   > loving
   > giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
   > the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC
   >
   > Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
   > fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
   > So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
   > with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
   > investment
   > in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a
   > old
   > building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
   > ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
   >
   > In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
   > down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
   > norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
   >
   > same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
   >
   > it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
   > Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
   > they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
   >
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@... <jezbooker%40hotmail.com>>
   > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com>>
   > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
   > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > if he meant that, he would have said that.
   >
   > sheeeez.
   >
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
   > From: clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com>
   > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
   > hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
   > back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board
   > so
   > the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
   > appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
   > good point..
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > From: ianstamp@... <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk>
   >
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
   >
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
   >
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
   > letting
   >
   > some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
   > all
   >
   > the £20m offered was to go on players).
   >
   > If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
   > certainly
   >
   > wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
   >
   > said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
   > whole
   >
   > house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
   >
   > And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
   > price
   >
   > was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
   >
   > (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
   > the
   >
   > only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
   > where
   >
   > shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
   >
   > Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...<bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
   > >:
   >
   > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
   > > board
   >
   > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
   >
   > > altitude.
   >
   > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
   > 1996,
   >
   > > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
   > when
   >
   > > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
   > said
   >
   > > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
   > Cullum
   >
   > > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
   > small for
   >
   > > all the egos to fit in.
   >
   > >
   >
   > > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
   >
   >
   >
brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
   >
   > 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
   >
   > >
   >
   > > Brian
   >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > > From: MLS
   >
   > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
   >
   > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
   >
   > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > >
   >
   > >
   >
   > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
   > have
   >
   > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
   >
   > >
   >
   > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>>
   >
   > >
   >
   > > > I came up with:
   >
   > > >
   >
   > > > Bottom :
   >
   > > > Forest 50
   >
   > > > City 49
   >
   > > > South't 48
   >
   > > > Charlt 36
   >
   > > > Ipshit -100
   >
   > > >
   >
   > > >
   >
   > > > Brian Burrell wrote:
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
   >
   > > > > Brian
   >
   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > > > > From: Alan clark
   >
   > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
   > <mailto:
   >
   > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >
   > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
   >
   > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
   >
   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > > > > From: Brian Burrell
   >
   > > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
   > <mailto:
   >
   > > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >
   > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
   >
   > > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
   >
   > > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
   > the
   >
   > > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
   > and
   >
   > > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
   >
   > > > > Top 6
   >
   > > > > Wolvers 88
   >
   > > > > Birm 87
   >
   > > > > Read 85
   >
   > > > > Cardiff 79
   >
   > > > > Swans 71
   >
   > > > > Sheff U 71
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Bottom 6
   >
   > > > > Plym 50
   >
   > > > > City 49
   >
   > > > > Barns 49
   >
   > > > > South't 48
   >
   > > > > Notts 48
   >
   > > > > Charlt 36
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Fingers crossed
   >
   > > > > Brian
   >
   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > > > > From: zoesveryhappy@...
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   > 40yahoo.co.uk>
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   >
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   >
   > > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >
   > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
   >
   > > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
   >
   > > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
   >
   > > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
   >
   > > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
   >
   > > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
   > to
   >
   > > > > see Lappin start too.
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
   > looked
   >
   > > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
   >
   > > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
   >
   > > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
   > analogue -
   >
   > > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
   > screen.
   >
   > > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
   >
   > > > > see the full picture.
   >
   > > > >
   >
   > > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
   >
   > > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
   > weeks
   >
   > > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
   >
   > > > >
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Has anyone ever described Peter Cullum as a passionate City supporter? Does
he even attend matches?

By the way, even PC thinks Delia & Michael have done a great job: "the two
of them have been brilliant for Norwich City - and I've always said that.
Every home and away game they are there. They've put a lot of their own
personal wealth into this. If you happen to be Abramovich and you have stuck
£10m into Norwich City, it's an accounting entry that barely covers the cost
of a holiday. But here are two people who have put in a considerable amount
of their total wealth. So I feel it's disappointing if they are now being
seen by some as the devil incarnate. It's unkind and it's unfair."

Peter Cullum's reference to Abramovich is interesting because it suggests
that he would also view his donation to the Club as a mere "accounting
entry", given his personal wealth is of the same order of magnitude (£1.7bn
compared to £8.7bn). Let's face it, neither of them would miss £20m if it
slipped down the back of the sofa! MLS

2009/3/26 Alan clark <clark.alan3@...>

>   How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query? SHEEEEEZ!
>
> My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the
> loving
> giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
> the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC
>
> Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
> fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
> So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
> with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an
> investment
> in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a
> old
> building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
> ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?
>
> In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
> down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
> norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
>
> same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
>
> it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back! I.e like
> Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
> they have truely supported themselves all their lives....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@... <jezbooker%40hotmail.com>>
> To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> if he meant that, he would have said that.
>
> sheeeez.
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> From: clark.alan3@... <clark.alan3%40sky.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
> hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
> back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board
> so
> the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
> appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
> good point..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ianstamp@... <ianstamp%40ukonline.co.uk>
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> letting
>
> some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
> all
>
> the £20m offered was to go on players).
>
> If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> certainly
>
> wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
>
> said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> whole
>
> house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
>
> And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> price
>
> was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
>
> (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> the
>
> only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> where
>
> shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
>
> Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...<bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> >:
>
> > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > board
>
> > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
>
> > altitude.
>
> > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996,
>
> > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
> when
>
> > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> said
>
> > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> Cullum
>
> > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
> small for
>
> > all the egos to fit in.
>
> >
>
> > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
>
>
> brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
>
> 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
>
> >
>
> > Brian
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: MLS
>
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> have
>
> > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
> >
>
> > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>>
>
> >
>
> > > I came up with:
>
> > >
>
> > > Bottom :
>
> > > Forest 50
>
> > > City 49
>
> > > South't 48
>
> > > Charlt 36
>
> > > Ipshit -100
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Brian Burrell wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
>
> > > > Brian
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: Alan clark
>
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
>
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: Brian Burrell
>
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
>
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
>
> > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> the
>
> > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> and
>
> > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
>
> > > > Top 6
>
> > > > Wolvers 88
>
> > > > Birm 87
>
> > > > Read 85
>
> > > > Cardiff 79
>
> > > > Swans 71
>
> > > > Sheff U 71
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Bottom 6
>
> > > > Plym 50
>
> > > > City 49
>
> > > > Barns 49
>
> > > > South't 48
>
> > > > Notts 48
>
> > > > Charlt 36
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Fingers crossed
>
> > > > Brian
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > From: zoesveryhappy@...
<zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk><zoesveryhappy%
> 40yahoo.co.uk>
> <mailto:
>
> > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
>
> > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
>
> > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
>
> > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
>
> > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
>
> > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
>
> > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
>
> > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
> to
>
> > > > see Lappin start too.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> looked
>
> > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
>
> > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
>
> > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
> analogue -
>
> > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> screen.
>
> > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
>
> > > > see the full picture.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
>
> > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> weeks
>
> > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
>
> > > >
>
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How could he "have said it" if he hadnt read my query?  SHEEEEEZ!

My first part of my analogy was similar thou a different scenario,the loving
giving sibling/the culinary benefactor..... the loved parent/the club....
the money donated to improve the dwelling/the money donated to improve NCFC

Now in ians statement, NCFC is bricks and morta, where as to a lot of
fans(not all obviously),NCFC is a way of life,a religion..
So i wouldnt use that as a way of illustratin the situation,so i enquired
with ian,that if a new "buyer" of a house, came in and offered an investment
in the house,as they LOVE the house( ie a national trust investment in a old
building),and didnt see it as a business transaction,but as a donation to
ensure the house continues, would he(ian) be happy with that?

In plain simple terms, if i was rich,i would invest in norwich....20 years
down the line,if someone came along and said they wanted to take over
norwich,and pump more money in, i would first of all make sure they had the
same love and PASSION for the club,as me,and would happily allow them to do
it! not expecting any of the money i had giving,norwich,back!   I.e like
Harding/walker/ the hibs guy and probably others who have helped the clubs
they have truely supported themselves all their lives....



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game





if he meant that, he would have said that.

sheeeez.

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: clark.alan3@...
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





















             Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it
back,as this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so
the investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid
appointments and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so
good point..

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: ianstamp@...

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM

   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game



There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
letting

   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since
all

   the £20m offered was to go on players).



If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly

   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and

   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
whole

   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!

   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
price

   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!



(Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
the

   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
where

   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)



Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:



> I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> board

   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players

   > altitude.

   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996,

   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
when

   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
said

   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
Cullum

   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too
small for

   > all the egos to fit in.

   >

   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?

   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%

   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

   >

   > Brian

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: MLS

   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM

   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   >

   >

   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
have

   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

   >

   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

   >

   > > I came up with:

   > >

   > > Bottom :

   > > Forest 50

   > > City 49

   > > South't 48

   > > Charlt 36

   > > Ipshit -100

   > >

   > >

   > > Brian Burrell wrote:

   > > >

   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Alan clark

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Brian Burrell

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.

   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
the

   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
and

   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.

   > > > Top 6

   > > > Wolvers 88

   > > > Birm 87

   > > > Read 85

   > > > Cardiff 79

   > > > Swans 71

   > > > Sheff U 71

   > > >

   > > > Bottom 6

   > > > Plym 50

   > > > City 49

   > > > Barns 49

   > > > South't 48

   > > > Notts 48

   > > > Charlt 36

   > > >

   > > > Fingers crossed

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
<mailto:

   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>

   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM

   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update

   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were

   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when

   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?

   > > >

   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable

   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice
to

   > > > see Lappin start too.

   > > >

   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
looked

   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music

   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')

   > > >

   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1

   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via
analogue -

   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
screen.

   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't

   > > > see the full picture.

   > > >

   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning

   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
weeks

   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure

   > > >

   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > >

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if he meant that, he would have said that.

sheeeez.

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: clark.alan3@...
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:54:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





















             Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she
hasnt done it for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it back,as
this investor loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so the
investor is part of the decision making process,to make sure stupid appointments
and other money wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so good point..

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: ianstamp@...

   To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM

   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game



There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and letting

   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all

   the £20m offered was to go on players).



If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly

   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and

   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the whole

   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!

   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market price

   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!



(Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares, the

   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts, where

   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)



Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:



> I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board

   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players

   > altitude.

   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996,

   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
when

   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also said

   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when Cullum

   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small
for

   > all the egos to fit in.

   >

   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?

   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%

   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

   >

   > Brian

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: MLS

   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM

   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   >

   >

   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have

   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

   >

   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

   >

   > > I came up with:

   > >

   > > Bottom :

   > > Forest 50

   > > City 49

   > > South't 48

   > > Charlt 36

   > > Ipshit -100

   > >

   > >

   > > Brian Burrell wrote:

   > > >

   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Alan clark

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: Brian Burrell

   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.

   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the

   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and

   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.

   > > > Top 6

   > > > Wolvers 88

   > > > Birm 87

   > > > Read 85

   > > > Cardiff 79

   > > > Swans 71

   > > > Sheff U 71

   > > >

   > > > Bottom 6

   > > > Plym 50

   > > > City 49

   > > > Barns 49

   > > > South't 48

   > > > Notts 48

   > > > Charlt 36

   > > >

   > > > Fingers crossed

   > > > Brian

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:

   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>

   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>

   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM

   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > > >

   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update

   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were

   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when

   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?

   > > >

   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable

   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to

   > > > see Lappin start too.

   > > >

   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked

   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music

   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')

   > > >

   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1

   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -

   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.

   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't

   > > > see the full picture.

   > > >

   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning

   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks

   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure

   > > >

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Do you mean if an investor came in, offered delia nothing,as she hasnt done it
for the money,gives the club 20 mill without expecting it back,as this investor
loves the club,but does ask for a seat on the board so the investor is part of
the decision making process,to make sure stupid appointments and other money
wasting schemes dont happen anymore?, if so good point..
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ianstamp@...
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and letting
   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all
   the £20m offered was to go on players).

   If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the whole
   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market price
   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

   (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares, the
   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts, where
   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

   Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
   > altitude.
   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996,
   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
when
   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also said
   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when Cullum
   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small
for
   > all the egos to fit in.
   >
   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
   >
   > Brian
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: MLS
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   >
   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
   >
   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
   >
   > > I came up with:
   > >
   > > Bottom :
   > > Forest 50
   > > City 49
   > > South't 48
   > > Charlt 36
   > > Ipshit -100
   > >
   > >
   > > Brian Burrell wrote:
   > > >
   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Alan clark
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Brian Burrell
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
   > > > Top 6
   > > > Wolvers 88
   > > > Birm 87
   > > > Read 85
   > > > Cardiff 79
   > > > Swans 71
   > > > Sheff U 71
   > > >
   > > > Bottom 6
   > > > Plym 50
   > > > City 49
   > > > Barns 49
   > > > South't 48
   > > > Notts 48
   > > > Charlt 36
   > > >
   > > > Fingers crossed
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
   > > >
   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
   > > > see Lappin start too.
   > > >
   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
   > > >
   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
   > > > see the full picture.
   > > >
   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
   > > >
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Sadly matt only the board will ever know why they appointed such people!
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:17:32
To: <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


That's what gets me about the board... they are running a football club
  but there record of managerial appointments is rubbish - with the
  exception of Worthy.

  Why the hell Peter Grant was ever given a job is something I will never
  be able to figure out!

  Malcolm Vasey wrote:
  >
  > Indeed Mr Booker's response was unworthy of one who has previously
  > demonstrated some good points particularly in the areas of finance etc.
  >
  > Personally, I believe that very poor business planning due to lack of
  > football acumen and ambition within the Board is to blame and at least
  > the
  > consensus now seems to be that loanees will not work long term although
  > Doncaster, that nadir of despair regarding football knowledge, thinks
  > differently.
  >
  > Let's have the debate, where and why have we gone wrong? It's not the
  > crowds because the Stadium is full. So what does the Business Plan say in
  > terms of revenue? I believe we pay too much in wages starting with the
  > unqualified (in football terms) Chief Executive. Then there is the
  > payouts
  > to failed Managers another problem that this Board has. That's only
  > part of
  > it and when the cash is short we spend it on the fabric of the place
  > where
  > what we had was more than adequate.
  >
  > The whole Board have a responsibility to the supporters which they
  > have not
  > met. Time to go for some but the hanging on despite numerous poor
  > appointments and business decisions continues.
  >
  > That's why poor old Gunny has had to try and pull us out of the mire.
  > Good
  > Luck to him and whilst I do not think he is a long term answer he has
  > done
  > well and the dressing room spirit, Blackpool apart, seems very high.
  >
  > OTBC
  >
  > Malcolm Vasey
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@btinterne
<mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com> t.com
  > <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com>>
  > To: <CN@yahoogroups. <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>>
  > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:10 AM
  > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  >
  > > Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still
  > alive but
  > > its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone
  > holds a
  > > differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a
  > > pity
  > > when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
  > > discussion.
  > > Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day
  > football, you
  > > took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
  > > would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its
  > football
  > > standing to compete at the highest level?
  > > I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
  > > If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe
  > survival is
  > > your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help
  > financially
  > > even if that resulted in sharing control.
  > > Anyone got any thoughts?
  > > "by the likes of" Brian
  > > ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
  > > Gordon.
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@hotmail. <mailto:jezbooker%40hotmail.com> com
  > <mailto:jezbooker%40hotmail.com>>
  > > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups. <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>>
  > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
  > > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
  > > club..."
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
  > > f****** brown?
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
  > > brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up
  > now.
  > > you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
  > > like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
  > > 'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the
  > list if
  > > you feel i've said too much here.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > jsb
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > To: CN@yahoogroups. <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
  > > From: bwburrell@btinterne <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com> t.com
<mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
  > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
  > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
  > > board
  > > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
  > > altitude.
  > > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
  > > 1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a
  > football
  > > club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of
  > £10m.
  > > She
  > > also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
  > > when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room
  > > was
  > > too small for all the egos to fit in.
  > >
  > >
  > http://new.edp24.
<http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&amp;category=Sp\
ort&amp;tBrand=EDPOnline&amp;tCategory=Sport&amp;itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017\
%3A07%3A23%3A927>
co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&t\
Category=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
  > <http://new.edp24.
<http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&amp;category=Sp\
ort&amp;tBrand=EDPOnline&amp;tCategory=Sport&amp;itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017\
%3A07%3A23%3A927>
co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&t\
Category=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927>
  > >
  > > Brian
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: MLS
  > > To: CN@yahoogroups. <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
  > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
  > have
  > > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
  > >
  > > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@tiscali. <mailto:mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk> co.uk
<mailto:mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>>
  > >
  > >> I came up with:
  > >>
  > >> Bottom :
  > >> Forest 50
  > >> City 49
  > >> South't 48
  > >> Charlt 36
  > >> Ipshit -100
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> Brian Burrell wrote:
  > >> >
  > >> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
  > >> > Brian
  > >> > ----- Original Message -----
  > >> > From: Alan clark
  > >> > To: CN@yahoogroups. <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
  > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
  > >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >> >
  > >> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
  > >> > ----- Original Message -----
  > >> > From: Brian Burrell
  > >> > To: CN@yahoogroups. <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
  > <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
  > >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >> >
  > >> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
  > >> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games
  > to the
  > >> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with
  > yellow and
  > >> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
  > >> > Top 6
  > >> > Wolvers 88
  > >> > Birm 87
  > >> > Read 85
  > >> > Cardiff 79
  > >> > Swans 71
  > >> > Sheff U 71
  > >> >
  > >> > Bottom 6
  > >> > Plym 50
  > >> > City 49
  > >> > Barns 49
  > >> > South't 48
  > >> > Notts 48
  > >> > Charlt 36
  > >> >
  > >> > Fingers crossed
  > >> > Brian
  > >> > ----- Original Message -----
  > >> > From: zoesveryhappy@ <mailto:zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> yahoo.co.uk
  > <mailto:zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
  > <mailto:
  > >> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
  > >> > To: cn@yahoogroups. <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com> com
<mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>
  > <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > >> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
  > >> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >> >
  > >> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
  > >> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
  > >> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
  > >> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
  > >> >
  > >> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
  > >> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
  > >> > see Lappin start too.
  > >> >
  > >> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
  > looked
  > >> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
  > >> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
  > >> >
  > >> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
  > >> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
  > >> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
  > screen.
  > >> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
  > >> > see the full picture.
  > >> >
  > >> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
  > >> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
  > weeks
  > >> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
  > >> >
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  > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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I've been asked to share this with you all; it's for a very good cause and very
fulfilling for participants, so if you can help out, please contact Duncan
MacInnes, as below. Thanks. MLS

==================================================

From: Duncan MacInnes <duncanmacinnes@...>
Subject: CFTC Projects 2009
To: duncanmacinnes@...
Date: Monday, 23 March, 2009, 7:01 PM

Hi there

Attached are the details of this year's Canaries for the Community (CFTC)
projects. Thank you so much for your help in previous year/s. If you wish to
volunteer again for either West Earlham School or Dereham Town FC, do let me
know.

As usual, all volunteers will be automatically entered into a free prize draw
for club merchandise. The format for this year's projects will be the same as
before with a 9.30am start and free lunch and refreshments. Jeremy Goss intends
to be at the projects to meet you and I hope other club officials may attend.

Those of you who have done projects for a few years will, I'm sure, be delighted
to see Bryan as manager. Gunny was a great supporter of CFTC in it's first few
years and many of us got to know him quite well. It will be very satisfying to
see Norwich retain their Championship status with someone like Bryan at the
helm.

Best wishes and hope to see you again on this year's projects.

Duncan
01603 431059

That's what gets me about the board... they are running a football club
but there record of managerial appointments is rubbish - with the
exception of Worthy.

Why the hell Peter Grant was ever given a job is something I will never
be able to figure out!

Malcolm Vasey wrote:
>
> Indeed Mr Booker's response was unworthy of one who has previously
> demonstrated some good points particularly in the areas of finance etc.
>
> Personally, I believe that very poor business planning due to lack of
> football acumen and ambition within the Board is to blame and at least
> the
> consensus now seems to be that loanees will not work long term although
> Doncaster, that nadir of despair regarding football knowledge, thinks
> differently.
>
> Let's have the debate, where and why have we gone wrong? It's not the
> crowds because the Stadium is full. So what does the Business Plan say in
> terms of revenue? I believe we pay too much in wages starting with the
> unqualified (in football terms) Chief Executive. Then there is the
> payouts
> to failed Managers another problem that this Board has. That's only
> part of
> it and when the cash is short we spend it on the fabric of the place
> where
> what we had was more than adequate.
>
> The whole Board have a responsibility to the supporters which they
> have not
> met. Time to go for some but the hanging on despite numerous poor
> appointments and business decisions continues.
>
> That's why poor old Gunny has had to try and pull us out of the mire.
> Good
> Luck to him and whilst I do not think he is a long term answer he has
> done
> well and the dressing room spirit, Blackpool apart, seems very high.
>
> OTBC
>
> Malcolm Vasey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...
> <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com>>
> To: <CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> > Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still
> alive but
> > its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone
> holds a
> > differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a
> > pity
> > when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
> > discussion.
> > Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day
> football, you
> > took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
> > would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its
> football
> > standing to compete at the highest level?
> > I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
> > If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe
> survival is
> > your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help
> financially
> > even if that resulted in sharing control.
> > Anyone got any thoughts?
> > "by the likes of" Brian
> > ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
> > Gordon.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...
> <mailto:jezbooker%40hotmail.com>>
> > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> >
> >
> > "...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> > club..."
> >
> >
> >
> > you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
> > f****** brown?
> >
> >
> >
> > three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
> > brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up
> now.
> > you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.
> >
> >
> >
> > sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
> > like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
> > 'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the
> list if
> > you feel i've said too much here.
> >
> >
> >
> > jsb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: bwburrell@... <mailto:bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> > board
> > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> > altitude.
> > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> > 1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a
> football
> > club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of
> £10m.
> > She
> > also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
> > when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room
> > was
> > too small for all the egos to fit in.
> >
> >
>
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Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
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>
> >
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MLS
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs
> have
> > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> >
> > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mailto:mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>>
> >
> >> I came up with:
> >>
> >> Bottom :
> >> Forest 50
> >> City 49
> >> South't 48
> >> Charlt 36
> >> Ipshit -100
> >>
> >>
> >> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> >> > Brian
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Alan clark
> >> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >> >
> >> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Brian Burrell
> >> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >> >
> >> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> >> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games
> to the
> >> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with
> yellow and
> >> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> >> > Top 6
> >> > Wolvers 88
> >> > Birm 87
> >> > Read 85
> >> > Cardiff 79
> >> > Swans 71
> >> > Sheff U 71
> >> >
> >> > Bottom 6
> >> > Plym 50
> >> > City 49
> >> > Barns 49
> >> > South't 48
> >> > Notts 48
> >> > Charlt 36
> >> >
> >> > Fingers crossed
> >> > Brian
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: zoesveryhappy@...
> <mailto:zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk>
> <mailto:
> >> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> >> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cn%40yahoogroups.com>
> <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> >> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> >> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >> >
> >> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> >> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> >> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> >> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >> >
> >> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> >> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> >> > see Lappin start too.
> >> >
> >> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> looked
> >> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> >> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >> >
> >> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> >> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> >> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> screen.
> >> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> >> > see the full picture.
> >> >
> >> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> >> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> weeks
> >> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >> >
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Been told it was £16m that's £30 a share for ALL the shares not just the Smiths.
Brian
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ianstamp@...
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and letting
   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all
   the £20m offered was to go on players).

   If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the whole
   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market price
   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

   (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares, the
   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts, where
   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

   Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
   > altitude.
   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996,
   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
when
   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also said
   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when Cullum
   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small
for
   > all the egos to fit in.
   >
   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
   >
   > Brian
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: MLS
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   >
   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
   >
   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
   >
   > > I came up with:
   > >
   > > Bottom :
   > > Forest 50
   > > City 49
   > > South't 48
   > > Charlt 36
   > > Ipshit -100
   > >
   > >
   > > Brian Burrell wrote:
   > > >
   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Alan clark
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Brian Burrell
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
   > > > Top 6
   > > > Wolvers 88
   > > > Birm 87
   > > > Read 85
   > > > Cardiff 79
   > > > Swans 71
   > > > Sheff U 71
   > > >
   > > > Bottom 6
   > > > Plym 50
   > > > City 49
   > > > Barns 49
   > > > South't 48
   > > > Notts 48
   > > > Charlt 36
   > > >
   > > > Fingers crossed
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
   > > >
   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
   > > > see Lappin start too.
   > > >
   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
   > > >
   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
   > > > see the full picture.
   > > >
   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
   > > >
   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   > > >
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i just hope we can stay up because im sure we would struggle to come back if we
did and that doesn't bear thinking about but lets all get behind gunny and the
boys and see where we end up



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:53:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





With you all the way Peter.
I have sat with my best mate in the upper Barclay in the same seats since it
was built and he couldn't give a jot what happens in the board room or off
the pitch, as long as we play good football and win he's happy. When I start
to go into one about....say the hotel he just says "heard it all before, I
don't care and its your turn for the coffees" and I wouldn't have it any
other way, we are all different but ultimately want the same thing, NCFC to
be successful.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Dudley" <pdudley1980@...>
To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

I think its best that we all just work and stick together in times like this
and compared to some other clubs we are no where near as bad off but still
we need some sort of change at the top if we are to progress like we once
were under Worthington. We all want that I know that so its all about
sharing opinions and discussing all that there is to do with NCFC, thats why
i like this group because no where else do I get the chance to view and read
my or any other fans perspective of the club. Gives me something to do
during the day at work when I'm bored hehe!!! OTBC!!!

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a pity
when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
discussion.
Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
standing to compete at the highest level?
I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
even if that resulted in sharing control.
Anyone got any thoughts?
"by the likes of" Brian
ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
Gordon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

"...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club..."

you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
f****** brown?

three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.

sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
you feel i've said too much here.

jsb

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
altitude.
Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She
also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was
too small for all the egos to fit in.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: MLS
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

> I came up with:
>
> Bottom :
> Forest 50
> City 49
> South't 48
> Charlt 36
> Ipshit -100
>
>
> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan clark
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Burrell
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > Top 6
> > Wolvers 88
> > Birm 87
> > Read 85
> > Cardiff 79
> > Swans 71
> > Sheff U 71
> >
> > Bottom 6
> > Plym 50
> > City 49
> > Barns 49
> > South't 48
> > Notts 48
> > Charlt 36
> >
> > Fingers crossed
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > see the full picture.
> >
> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
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Its obvious the clubs business plan has failed. If we were in the prem playing
well but in debt or had a crap football team but were making loads of money or
even a good winning team and making money then id say their plan worked but we
can all see what's happened.
Its come down to the board making the hard choices, on the pitch v off the
pitch. Like we get promotion to the prem, do I buy a good striker at the start
of the season or wait and spend it on luxuriously fitting out The Business
corporate suite at the top of the new stand? The board got it wrong. We got
Ashton in January too late to save us from relegation but money was spent on the
corporate suite which could have been finished another time.
I think over the years the board has got the balance wrong between on the pitch
and off the pitch spending. That's why we have what's described as a wonderful
stadium, the envy of many other clubs but a crap football team.
Brian
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Malcolm Vasey
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:31 AM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   Indeed Mr Booker's response was unworthy of one who has previously
   demonstrated some good points particularly in the areas of finance etc.

   Personally, I believe that very poor business planning due to lack of
   football acumen and ambition within the Board is to blame and at least the
   consensus now seems to be that loanees will not work long term although
   Doncaster, that nadir of despair regarding football knowledge, thinks
   differently.

   Let's have the debate, where and why have we gone wrong? It's not the
   crowds because the Stadium is full. So what does the Business Plan say in
   terms of revenue? I believe we pay too much in wages starting with the
   unqualified (in football terms) Chief Executive. Then there is the payouts
   to failed Managers another problem that this Board has. That's only part of
   it and when the cash is short we spend it on the fabric of the place where
   what we had was more than adequate.

   The whole Board have a responsibility to the supporters which they have not
   met. Time to go for some but the hanging on despite numerous poor
   appointments and business decisions continues.

   That's why poor old Gunny has had to try and pull us out of the mire. Good
   Luck to him and whilst I do not think he is a long term answer he has done
   well and the dressing room spirit, Blackpool apart, seems very high.

   OTBC

   Malcolm Vasey

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
   To: <CN@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:10 AM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

   > Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
   > its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
   > differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a
   > pity
   > when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
   > discussion.
   > Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
   > took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
   > would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
   > standing to compete at the highest level?
   > I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
   > If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
   > your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
   > even if that resulted in sharing control.
   > Anyone got any thoughts?
   > "by the likes of" Brian
   > ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
   > Gordon.
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
   > To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
   > Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   >
   >
   > "...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
   > club..."
   >
   >
   >
   > you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
   > f****** brown?
   >
   >
   >
   > three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
   > brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
   > you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.
   >
   >
   >
   > sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
   > like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
   > 'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
   > you feel i've said too much here.
   >
   >
   >
   > jsb
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   > From: bwburrell@...
   > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
   > board
   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
   > altitude.
   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
   > 1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
   > club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m.
   > She
   > also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
   > when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room
   > was
   > too small for all the egos to fit in.
   >
   >
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
   >
   > Brian
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: MLS
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
   >
   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
   >
   >> I came up with:
   >>
   >> Bottom :
   >> Forest 50
   >> City 49
   >> South't 48
   >> Charlt 36
   >> Ipshit -100
   >>
   >>
   >> Brian Burrell wrote:
   >> >
   >> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
   >> > Brian
   >> > ----- Original Message -----
   >> > From: Alan clark
   >> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
   >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >> >
   >> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
   >> > ----- Original Message -----
   >> > From: Brian Burrell
   >> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   >> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
   >> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >> >
   >> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
   >> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
   >> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
   >> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
   >> > Top 6
   >> > Wolvers 88
   >> > Birm 87
   >> > Read 85
   >> > Cardiff 79
   >> > Swans 71
   >> > Sheff U 71
   >> >
   >> > Bottom 6
   >> > Plym 50
   >> > City 49
   >> > Barns 49
   >> > South't 48
   >> > Notts 48
   >> > Charlt 36
   >> >
   >> > Fingers crossed
   >> > Brian
   >> > ----- Original Message -----
   >> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
   >> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
   >> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   >> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
   >> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >> >
   >> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
   >> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
   >> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
   >> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
   >> >
   >> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
   >> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
   >> > see Lappin start too.
   >> >
   >> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
   >> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
   >> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
   >> >
   >> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
   >> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
   >> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
   >> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
   >> > see the full picture.
   >> >
   >> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
   >> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
   >> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
   >> >
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With you all the way Peter.
I have sat with my best mate in the upper Barclay in the same seats since it
was built and he couldn't give a jot what happens in the board room or off
the pitch, as long as we play good football and win he's happy. When I start
to go into one about....say the hotel he just says "heard it all before, I
don't care and its your turn for the coffees" and I wouldn't have it any
other way, we are all different but ultimately want the same thing, NCFC to
be successful.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Dudley" <pdudley1980@...>
To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game



I think its best that we all just work and stick together in times like this
and compared to some other clubs we are no where near as bad off but still
we need some sort of change at the top if we are to progress like we once
were under Worthington. We all want that I know that so its all about
sharing opinions and discussing all that there is to do with NCFC, thats why
i like this group because no where else do I get the chance to view and read
my or any other fans perspective of the club.   Gives me something to do
during the day at work when I'm bored hehe!!!  OTBC!!!



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a pity
when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
discussion.
Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
standing to compete at the highest level?
I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
even if that resulted in sharing control.
Anyone got any thoughts?
"by the likes of" Brian
ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
Gordon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

"...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club..."

you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
f****** brown?

three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.

sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
you feel i've said too much here.

jsb

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
altitude.
Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She
also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was
too small for all the egos to fit in.

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Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: MLS
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

> I came up with:
>
> Bottom :
> Forest 50
> City 49
> South't 48
> Charlt 36
> Ipshit -100
>
>
> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan clark
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Burrell
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > Top 6
> > Wolvers 88
> > Birm 87
> > Read 85
> > Cardiff 79
> > Swans 71
> > Sheff U 71
> >
> > Bottom 6
> > Plym 50
> > City 49
> > Barns 49
> > South't 48
> > Notts 48
> > Charlt 36
> >
> > Fingers crossed
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > see the full picture.
> >
> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
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Indeed Mr Booker's response was unworthy of one who has previously
demonstrated some good points particularly in the areas of finance etc.

Personally, I believe that very poor business planning due to lack of
football acumen and ambition within the Board is to blame and at least the
consensus now seems to be that loanees will not work long term although
Doncaster, that nadir of despair regarding football knowledge, thinks
differently.

Let's have the debate, where and why have we gone wrong?  It's not the
crowds because the Stadium is full.  So what does the Business Plan say in
terms of revenue?   I believe we pay too much in wages starting with the
unqualified (in football terms) Chief Executive. Then there is the payouts
to failed Managers another problem that this Board has.  That's only part of
it and when the cash is short we spend it on the fabric of the place where
what we had was more than adequate.

The whole Board have a responsibility to the supporters which they have not
met.  Time to go for some but the hanging on despite numerous poor
appointments and business decisions continues.

That's why poor old Gunny has had to try and pull us out of the mire.  Good
Luck to him and whilst I do not think he is a long term answer he has done
well and the dressing room spirit, Blackpool apart,  seems very high.

OTBC

Malcolm Vasey


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
To: <CN@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


> Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
> its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
> differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a
> pity
> when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
> discussion.
> Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
> took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
> would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
> standing to compete at the highest level?
> I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
> If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
> your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
> even if that resulted in sharing control.
> Anyone got any thoughts?
> "by the likes of" Brian
>    ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
> Gordon.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
> To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
> "...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club..."
>
>
>
> you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
> f****** brown?
>
>
>
> three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
> brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
> you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.
>
>
>
> sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
> like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
> 'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
> you feel i've said too much here.
>
>
>
> jsb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> From: bwburrell@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> board
> even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> altitude.
> Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m.
> She
> also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
> when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room
> was
> too small for all the egos to fit in.
>
>
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MLS
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
> all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
> 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
>
>> I came up with:
>>
>> Bottom :
>> Forest 50
>> City 49
>> South't 48
>> Charlt 36
>> Ipshit -100
>>
>>
>> Brian Burrell wrote:
>> >
>> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
>> > Brian
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Alan clark
>> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>> >
>> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Brian Burrell
>> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>> >
>> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
>> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
>> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
>> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
>> > Top 6
>> > Wolvers 88
>> > Birm 87
>> > Read 85
>> > Cardiff 79
>> > Swans 71
>> > Sheff U 71
>> >
>> > Bottom 6
>> > Plym 50
>> > City 49
>> > Barns 49
>> > South't 48
>> > Notts 48
>> > Charlt 36
>> >
>> > Fingers crossed
>> > Brian
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
>> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
>> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
>> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
>> >
>> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
>> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
>> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
>> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
>> >
>> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
>> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
>> > see Lappin start too.
>> >
>> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
>> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
>> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
>> >
>> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
>> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
>> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
>> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
>> > see the full picture.
>> >
>> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
>> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
>> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
>> >
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What I remember from the papers at the time (if they were to be believed) Cullum
offered £20m for players but wanted to put people on the board and wanted Delia
to keep her shares and to stay on. The board wanted a complete buy out for £52m,
which included the £20m.
As all sides said what they were doing was for the good of the club and both
sides said they were really just fans why didn't it come about that they
couldn't all come together and sort out a deal that was really for the good of
the club? I still say it didn't happen do to control and egos on both sides and
the club ended up the loser.
Brian
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ianstamp@...
   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game


   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and letting
   some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all
   the £20m offered was to go on players).

   If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
   wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
   said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the whole
   house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
   And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market price
   was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

   (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares, the
   only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts, where
   shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

   Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

   > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
   > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
   > altitude.
   > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996,
   > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
when
   > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also said
   > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when Cullum
   > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small
for
   > all the egos to fit in.
   >
   > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
   brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
   20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
   >
   > Brian
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: MLS
   > To: CN@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
   > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   >
   >
   > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
   > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
   >
   > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
   >
   > > I came up with:
   > >
   > > Bottom :
   > > Forest 50
   > > City 49
   > > South't 48
   > > Charlt 36
   > > Ipshit -100
   > >
   > >
   > > Brian Burrell wrote:
   > > >
   > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Alan clark
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: Brian Burrell
   > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
   > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
   > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
   > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
   > > > Top 6
   > > > Wolvers 88
   > > > Birm 87
   > > > Read 85
   > > > Cardiff 79
   > > > Swans 71
   > > > Sheff U 71
   > > >
   > > > Bottom 6
   > > > Plym 50
   > > > City 49
   > > > Barns 49
   > > > South't 48
   > > > Notts 48
   > > > Charlt 36
   > > >
   > > > Fingers crossed
   > > > Brian
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
   > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
   > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
   > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
   > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
   > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
   > > >
   > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
   > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
   > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
   > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
   > > >
   > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
   > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
   > > > see Lappin start too.
   > > >
   > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
   > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
   > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
   > > >
   > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
   > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
   > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
   > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
   > > > see the full picture.
   > > >
   > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
   > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
   > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
   > > >
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I think its best that we all just work and stick together in times like this and
compared to some other clubs we are no where near as bad off but still we need
some sort of change at the top if we are to progress like we once were under
Worthington. We all want that I know that so its all about sharing opinions and
discussing all that there is to do with NCFC, thats why i like this group
because no where else do I get the chance to view and read my or any other fans
perspective of the club.   Gives me something to do during the day at work when
I'm bored hehe!!!  OTBC!!!



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a pity
when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
discussion.
Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
standing to compete at the highest level?
I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
even if that resulted in sharing control.
Anyone got any thoughts?
"by the likes of" Brian
ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
Gordon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game

"...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club..."

you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
f****** brown?

three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.

sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
you feel i've said too much here.

jsb

To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
altitude.
Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She
also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was
too small for all the egos to fit in.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: MLS
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

> I came up with:
>
> Bottom :
> Forest 50
> City 49
> South't 48
> Charlt 36
> Ipshit -100
>
>
> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan clark
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Burrell
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > Top 6
> > Wolvers 88
> > Birm 87
> > Read 85
> > Cardiff 79
> > Swans 71
> > Sheff U 71
> >
> > Bottom 6
> > Plym 50
> > City 49
> > Barns 49
> > South't 48
> > Notts 48
> > Charlt 36
> >
> > Fingers crossed
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > see the full picture.
> >
> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
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Iv been called far worse by some far better people and I'm still alive but
its a shame the forum degenerates to personal insults when someone holds a
differing opinion, Maybe that's the way of the world now. Its really a pity
when an intelligently thought out reply would stimulate dialogue and
discussion.
Lets try this. Knowing the financial problems in modern day football, you
took control of a middle of the road club fallen on hard times how much
would expect to pay each season to keep it going and improve its football
standing to compete at the highest level?
I think its down to aspiration, do you want to just survive or improve?
If you are by your own opinion just a "poor millionaire" maybe survival is
your best hope but to improve and compete you would need help financially
even if that resulted in sharing control.
Anyone got any thoughts?
  "by the likes of" Brian
     ps I've always been a stanch hard line Labour supporter.....good old
Gordon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Booker" <jezbooker@...>
To: "ncfc 1" <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game



"...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club..."



you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
f****** brown?



three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.



sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
you feel i've said too much here.



jsb






To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: bwburrell@...
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
altitude.
Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She
also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was
too small for all the egos to fit in.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927

Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: MLS
To: CN@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game

So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

> I came up with:
>
> Bottom :
> Forest 50
> City 49
> South't 48
> Charlt 36
> Ipshit -100
>
>
> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan clark
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Burrell
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > Top 6
> > Wolvers 88
> > Birm 87
> > Read 85
> > Cardiff 79
> > Swans 71
> > Sheff U 71
> >
> > Bottom 6
> > Plym 50
> > City 49
> > Barns 49
> > South't 48
> > Notts 48
> > Charlt 36
> >
> > Fingers crossed
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > see the full picture.
> >
> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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Nah just three as we are allowed to stay up cause the neighbours from down the
road are amazingly docked all there points and then another 100 for good measure
lol
-----Original Message-----
From: ricky bilverstone <ricky_bilverstone@...>

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:34:00
To: <cn@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [CN] Yesterdays game


4 go down this season then?? hmmmm :o)
   


  To: CN@yahoogroups.com
  From: mls11x@...
  Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:23:30 +0000
  Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





  So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
  all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

  2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

  > I came up with:
  >
  > Bottom :
  > Forest 50
  > City 49
  > South't 48
  > Charlt 36
  > Ipshit -100
  >
  >
  > Brian Burrell wrote:
  > >
  > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
  > > Brian
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Alan clark
  > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Brian Burrell
  > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
  > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
  > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
  > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
  > > Top 6
  > > Wolvers 88
  > > Birm 87
  > > Read 85
  > > Cardiff 79
  > > Swans 71
  > > Sheff U 71
  > >
  > > Bottom 6
  > > Plym 50
  > > City 49
  > > Barns 49
  > > South't 48
  > > Notts 48
  > > Charlt 36
  > >
  > > Fingers crossed
  > > Brian
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
  > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
  > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
  > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
  > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
  > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
  > >
  > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
  > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
  > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
  > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
  > >
  > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
  > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
  > > see Lappin start too.
  > >
  > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
  > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
  > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
  > >
  > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
  > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
  > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
  > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
  > > see the full picture.
  > >
  > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
  > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
  > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > >
  > > ----------------------------------------------------------
  > >
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  > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
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4 go down this season then?? hmmmm :o)



To: CN@yahoogroups.com
From: mls11x@...
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:23:30 +0000
Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game





So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS

2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>

> I came up with:
>
> Bottom :
> Forest 50
> City 49
> South't 48
> Charlt 36
> Ipshit -100
>
>
> Brian Burrell wrote:
> >
> > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan clark
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Burrell
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > Top 6
> > Wolvers 88
> > Birm 87
> > Read 85
> > Cardiff 79
> > Swans 71
> > Sheff U 71
> >
> > Bottom 6
> > Plym 50
> > City 49
> > Barns 49
> > South't 48
> > Notts 48
> > Charlt 36
> >
> > Fingers crossed
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> >
> > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > see Lappin start too.
> >
> > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> >
> > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > see the full picture.
> >
> > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
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Nicely put Ian, and good to hear from you! MLS

2009/3/24 <ianstamp@...>

>   There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and
> letting
> some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all
>
> the £20m offered was to go on players).
>
> If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I
> certainly
> wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
> said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the
> whole
> house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
> And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market
> price
> was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!
>
> (Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares,
> the
> only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts,
> where
> shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)
>
>
> Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...<bwburrell%40btinternet.com>
> >:
>
> > I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over
> board
> > even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> > altitude.
> > Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996,
> > that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club
> when
> > you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also
> said
> > "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when
> Cullum
> > came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small
> for
> > all the egos to fit in.
> >
> > http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
>
> brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
> 20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
> >
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MLS
> > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> >
> >
> > So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
> > all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
> >
> > 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@... <mwenn%40tiscali.co.uk>>
> >
> > > I came up with:
> > >
> > > Bottom :
> > > Forest 50
> > > City 49
> > > South't 48
> > > Charlt 36
> > > Ipshit -100
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian Burrell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > > > Brian
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Alan clark
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Brian Burrell
> > > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <CN%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
> > > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to
> the
> > > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow
> and
> > > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > > > Top 6
> > > > Wolvers 88
> > > > Birm 87
> > > > Read 85
> > > > Cardiff 79
> > > > Swans 71
> > > > Sheff U 71
> > > >
> > > > Bottom 6
> > > > Plym 50
> > > > City 49
> > > > Barns 49
> > > > South't 48
> > > > Notts 48
> > > > Charlt 36
> > > >
> > > > Fingers crossed
> > > > Brian
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: zoesveryhappy@...
<zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk><zoesveryhappy%
> 40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> > > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <cn%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:
> > > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > > >
> > > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> > > >
> > > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > > > see Lappin start too.
> > > >
> > > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's
> looked
> > > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> > > >
> > > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the
> screen.
> > > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > > > see the full picture.
> > > >
> > > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few
> weeks
> > > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> > > >
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Jez - There's no way I'm striking you from the list, so don't give up! MLS

2009/3/24 Jez Booker <jezbooker@...>

>
> "...that's £846K a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club..."
>
>
>
> you're mad. certifiable. from whom did you learn your economics? gordon
> f****** brown?
>
>
>
> three quarters of a million pounds a year to be insulted by the likes of
> brian? delia, if you're secretly on this list, i suggest you give up now.
> you can't win with people like brian and their 'altitude'.
>
>
>
> sorry MLS, maybe I should stay out of this forum from now on, but emails
> like that one are just too much. I don't know how you keep such a +ve
> 'altitude' with people like this. feel free to strike me from the list if
> you feel i've said too much here.
>
>
>
> jsb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> From: bwburrell@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:32:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
> even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> altitude.
> Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in
> 1996, that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football
> club when you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She
> also said "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again
> when Cullum came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was
> too small for all the egos to fit in.
>
>
>
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&t\
Brand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MLS
> To: CN@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
> So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
> all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
> 2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
>
> > I came up with:
> >
> > Bottom :
> > Forest 50
> > City 49
> > South't 48
> > Charlt 36
> > Ipshit -100
> >
> >
> > Brian Burrell wrote:
> > >
> > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
> > > Brian
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Alan clark
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brian Burrell
> > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
> > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
> > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
> > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
> > > Top 6
> > > Wolvers 88
> > > Birm 87
> > > Read 85
> > > Cardiff 79
> > > Swans 71
> > > Sheff U 71
> > >
> > > Bottom 6
> > > Plym 50
> > > City 49
> > > Barns 49
> > > South't 48
> > > Notts 48
> > > Charlt 36
> > >
> > > Fingers crossed
> > > Brian
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
> > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
> > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
> > >
> > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
> > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
> > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
> > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
> > >
> > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
> > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
> > > see Lappin start too.
> > >
> > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
> > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
> > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
> > >
> > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
> > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
> > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
> > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
> > > see the full picture.
> > >
> > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
> > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
> > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
> > >
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There's a big difference between not expecting it back from NCFC, and letting
some chancer take all the benefit of that investment for nothing (since all
the £20m offered was to go on players).

If I was rich enough to buy my Dad a house, and do it up nicely, I certainly
wouldn't want any of it back from my Dad. But if some bloke came along and
said to me, look I'll put in a new kitchen, but you've got to sign the whole
house over to me, I'd tell him to **** off!
And if I'd bought the house for £100k, spent £50k on it, but the market price
was now £200k, I'd want £200k, not £150k!!

(Re market value for NCFC, as there is no 'market price' for NCFC shares, the
only objective indicator of what NCFC is worth is in the last accounts, where
shareholders funds (i.e. assets - debts) were £15.4m)

Quoting Brian Burrell <bwburrell@...>:

> I'm far more optimistic than I was a month ago but I'm not going over board
> even with my league predictions. Gunnys done wonders with the players
> altitude.
> Delia's said she and MWJ have put £11m into the club. They took over in 1996,
> that's £846k a year and that's cheap to be in control of a football club when
> you think about it? I was close with my top end guess of £10m. She also said
> "we knew we would never see any of that money again" but again when Cullum
> came along they wanted it back?. I still say the board room was too small for
> all the egos to fit in.
>
> http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/story.aspx?
brand=EDPOnline&category=Sport&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Sport&itemid=NOED23%
20Mar%202009%2017%3A07%3A23%3A927
>
> Brian
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: MLS
>   To: CN@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:23 AM
>   Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>
>
>   So you have us going down - I hope you're wrong and the recent signs have
>   all been positive. I remain optimistic. MLS
>
>   2009/3/23 Matt Wenn <mwenn@...>
>
>   > I came up with:
>   >
>   > Bottom :
>   > Forest 50
>   > City 49
>   > South't 48
>   > Charlt 36
>   > Ipshit -100
>   >
>   >
>   > Brian Burrell wrote:
>   > >
>   > > You know me, say it as I see it, like it or not ;o)
>   > > Brian
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: Alan clark
>   > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>   > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>   > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:33 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>   > >
>   > > "Not with yellow and green glasses" Really? you do suprise me.. :)
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: Brian Burrell
>   > > To: CN@yahoogroups.com <CN%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>   > CN%40yahoogroups.com <CN%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>   > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: [CN] Yesterdays game
>   > >
>   > > Wonderful point, and every point counts.
>   > > I ran the BBC football Predictor for all the Championship games to the
>   > > end of the season and looked at every game openly (not with yellow and
>   > > green glasses) I was surprised what I came up with.
>   > > Top 6
>   > > Wolvers 88
>   > > Birm 87
>   > > Read 85
>   > > Cardiff 79
>   > > Swans 71
>   > > Sheff U 71
>   > >
>   > > Bottom 6
>   > > Plym 50
>   > > City 49
>   > > Barns 49
>   > > South't 48
>   > > Notts 48
>   > > Charlt 36
>   > >
>   > > Fingers crossed
>   > > Brian
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: zoesveryhappy@... <zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:
>   > zoesveryhappy%40yahoo.co.uk <zoesveryhappy%2540yahoo.co.uk>>
>   > > To: cn@yahoogroups.com <cn%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
>   > cn%40yahoogroups.com <cn%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>   > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:39 AM
>   > > Subject: [CN] Yesterdays game
>   > >
>   > > I've just watched The Championship & have to agree with Tim's update
>   > > texts from yesterday, which said we'd battered Birmingham. We were
>   > > unlucky with our disallowed goal & was it a poor decision when
>   > > Marshall was fouled to let Brum's goal stand?
>   > >
>   > > That aside, it looked a good, determined performance & a valuable
>   > > point gained. Great free kick from Clingan to score the goal! Nice to
>   > > see Lappin start too.
>   > >
>   > > Good to see so many City fans made it to the game - St Andrew's looked
>   > > rather empty in the home stands though. Interesting choice of music
>   > > Brum have to celebrate their goal (UB40's 'Food for thought')
>   > >
>   > > Did anyone else have interference on their screen watching ITV1
>   > > through analogue? I watched it on digital but taped it via analogue -
>   > > mistake as I kept getting coloured rectangles appearing on the screen.
>   > > That meant when I replayed it to see if it was a penalty, I couldn't
>   > > see the full picture.
>   > >
>   > > Still a way to go but continued determined performances with winning
>   > > goals scored will see us safe in my opinion - changed from a few weeks
>   > > ago after Coventry when I thought we were down for sure
>   > >
>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   > >
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