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From: "Brian Burrell" <bwburrell@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:37 am
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?

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This one will be interesting to see how it pans out. McNally wanted his old mate Lambert here. What I remember Colchester insisted we interview Lambert first, that indicated we had spoken to him without Colchester's knowledge. That alone if true will cost us points.

As for Gunn, we only lost one league game after he signed a new contract and he build the squad he wanted and apart from a loan keeper Lambert has not added to it.

I still think he was not given the chance he deserved with his own squad but it looks like the city set up now is its who you know that counts.

Brian

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt Wenn

To: CN@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?

Wonder how many points the FA will take from us though?

We went from Bryan Gunn - who I rate about as much as Peter Grant as a
decent manager - the last since Worthy.

Jez Booker wrote:
>
> << Holt looked tidy against Colchester on that fateful day but I think
> the scoreline did us a favour because we have landed a great Manager
> and spirit that he has brought into the Club.>>
>
> Very very true. Every cloud etc.
>
> To: CN@yahoogroups. com
> From: vasey.aquarius@ virgin.net
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:27:22 +0000
> Subject: Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> ?
> Some of these comments are of course worrying.
> Any organisation with a loan based financial structure of �18 Million
> when they sell the product out for every match would be looking at
> ways of restructuring the debt because it is difficult to see how
> operationally the loan could ever be fully recovered. We need to
> discover a great talent from our Youth Team and sell him to wipe the
> debt out but that is really a totally forlorn hope.
> I am not going into one about Doncaster here, you have all heard it
> enough times, but he advocated that the loan system was the way
> forward for us which of course is incorrect for many reasons. Only
> persons who have followed the Club, or indeed any other Club, for a
> longish period of time would see that. I recall with great affection
> some of the many yellow and green heroes of yesteryear some of whom
> went on to star elsewhere and some were just our stars but heroes
> never the less. I doubt if many will recall Kieran Gibbs for instance
> in fifty years time but I recall well enough the full backs when I had
> to look through the fence to see the match ie Bill Lewis and John
> Duffy, Dennis Morgan et al. I remember the great Reg Foulkes and a
> little later Barry Butler still in my view the best Central Defender
> ever to wear the yellow and green even though he has had many great
> successors in that position. These are some of the reasons why I feel
> so strongly when I see the football side of things desecrated by
> people in power who have no understanding of our proud history. I feel
> that the new Board are aware of these issues more so than in the past
> and that their custodianship of the Club will focus more on football
> matters than the infrastructural policies of the recent past.
> We are on the mend and whilst there are obvious financial problems the
> part that matters most, as long as we don't go into administration,
> are our results and the way we play which are very much on the up. I
> thought our match at Leeds was the best I have seen Norwich play since
> the Mike Walker days or perhaps briefly when we had Huckerby and
> Crouch in the side under Worthington although I personally found his
> defensive traits too much at times and he does not sit amongst the
> greats with me.
> I would like to know how much it would take to prize Grant Holt away
> from us because a �1 million fee would do little to help us
> financially but have enormous affect on the team and our performances.
> Holt looked tidy against Colchester on that fateful day but I think
> the scoreline did us a favour because we have landed a great Manager
> and spirit that he has brought into the Club. It's still early days of
> course but very much so far so good for me. It may be that It would
> take �5million to persuade Lambert to sell and perhaps Radio Norfolk
> could put that question to him. In our position I suppose everyone has
> a price I just hope its not too cheap in his case.
> I really hope that we can win at Southampton tomorrow not a place we
> generally do well at but they looked poor against Brighton so we have
> every chance. And a win for Lowestoft too would also improve my weekend.
> OTBC
> Malcolm Vasey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Brian Burrell <mailto:bwburrell@btinternet.com>
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 3:15 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> ?
> I think we have to start paying back the loans for the land, road
> and offices in December. But there is the loan from the Turners?
> In money terms what is Holt worth as a player? We would be lucking
> to get �1m for him but to the club he's worth what �5 - �10m if we
> are in the top 6 of the Champ at the end of next season on the
> back of Holt.
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul Manning <mailto:home@paulmanning.co.uk>
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 3:00 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
>
> I took it to mean looking to defer Director's loans. It also
> suggests that Superfax f***ed up the finances last season,
> meaning the picture is far from rosy.
> We have a team plying well and getting results, so I expect
> lots of stories linking our players to other clubs. There
> seems to be a good sense of camaraderie, with the only
> wantaway players possibly Theo, Maric and Whaley. At the end
> of the day any player would be sold for a price, but if when
> the transfer window opens we are in promotion contention, a
> player is unlikely to want to move to a Championship club.
> That of course does not mean a player won't be sold as needs
> must.
> OTBC,
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* CN@yahoogroups. com [mailto:CN@yahoogro ups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Brian Burrell
> *Sent:* 20 November 2009 14:36
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> ?
> http://www.pinkun. com/content/ pinkun/norwich-
> city/story. aspx?brand=
> PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PINKUNOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED20%
> 20Nov%202009% 2010%3A35% 3A25%3A927
> <http://www.pinkun.com/content/pinkun/norwich-city/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PINKUNOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED20%20Nov%202009%2010:35:25:927>
>
> They go on about restructuring the �18.8m dept, does that
> mean we cant pay the instalment at the end of the year?
> Also heard Hoolahan is off to Middlesborough but cant find
> anything to confirm it.
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Marcel <mailto:marcel_beren@yahoo.com>
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 1:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
>
> Yes I wasn't sure how the move saves money except I
> then thought of floodlighting And overtime for ground
> staff.
> Of course Lambert is right - if someone offered silly
> money for Holt we'd take it, same as any club and star
> players.
> I missed the news about accounts being skipped -
> sounds odd. Can you post a link pls?
>
> On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:24, "Brian Burrell"
> <bwburrell@btinterne t.com
> <mailto:bwburrell@btinternet.com>> wrote:
>
> ?
> One or two things have happened this week though.
> The board have moved the reserve games from a
> 7.30pm kick off to a 2pm kick off that means there
> will be virtually no crowd and no school kids.
> This they say was done for cost???????? And there
> will be no accounts published this year with the
> AGM put off till February next year?????
> Are we really in that bad a state?
> Brian
> Oh yes and Lamberts said if the money was right he
> would sell Holt!
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Malcolm Vasey
> <mailto:vasey.aquarius@virgin.net>
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 11:05 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> ?
> It is a pity perhaps that when things are
> going better we do not feel moved to comment
> accordingly in the same way as is done when
> things are going badly.
> I'd have to say that they had been going badly
> for a very long time before I started to
> comment on here and I must have been amongst
> the biggest critics of the old Board and the
> rubbish approach that they had. There I go again!
> I am well pleased with the new set up but if
> we had to be pedantic I feel that when things
> are not going well up front then we should
> more quickly introduce Cody MacDonald who is a
> very different type of player to our other
> strikers. Grant Holt is amazing and I must say
> that Chris Martin has done very well as has
> Hoolahan which perhaps more than anything
> illustrates that this could have been his
> contribution all along. Lappin too is a useful
> player and you just have to smile at how
> seriously misjudged he was by earlier managers
> including Bryan Gunn. He would have been
> better at left back at Charlton than Shackell
> for instance. How do you criticise a defence
> as mean as our has been but there are some
> problems? Otsemabor is great going forward
> with pace but suspect defensively and I also
> feel that although he has played well of late
> Doherty is too physical and that is a real
> problem. He is not even subtle but as I said
> he has done well of late. Michael Nelson has
> also done better and with Berthel Askou very
> sound in my view and goes forward well we are
> OK in this area.
> I am sure that Paul Lambert is a no nonsense
> type at the Training Ground and yet comes
> across so well on TV etc and seems a real
> gentleman his approach to Paulton before and
> after the game providing all the evidence that
> I need to make that comment. A great guy who
> could go down as one of City's best but he no
> doubt has ambition and that is my only worry
> as far as he is concerned
> What is happening about Maric and Theo? The
> latter was on the bench the other day at
> Paulton and I feared for us if he had to come
> on and that must be Paul Lambert's view. Has
> he played in the reserves?
> Whilst we are far from out of the woods we are
> doing very nicely but it would be nice to be
> drawn at home in a Cup competition. We have
> had far too many away draws but the law of
> averages must click in soon if we survive at
> Southampton and Carlisle.
> At left back I am not sure how long Drury has
> left although he is competent enough at
> present. In goal we are very strong now that
> Forster is here for the rest of the season and
> is free to play in all matches. Behind him is
> the rapidly developing Declan Rudd and Theo
> who must now feel that he would be best away
> from Carrow Road. I look forward to Spillane
> returning, a most useful player at Central
> defender or full back, and definitely a real
> prospect. Not too sure about Tudor-Jones or
> Gill they seem easily crocked to me. Korey
> Smith has played well as has Adeyemi and
> Francomb and there are other youngsters who
> could prove to be good players. I also like
> the look of Stephen Hughes.
> Things are not bad at Norwich City at the
> moment and I am pleased for our supporters who
> deserve this upturn. We have a good side and
> cover which can't be bad.
> We still have a debt problem and I hope that
> does not serve to anchor us at our present
> level there is just the worry that the kitty
> is presently bare and if we needed a player we
> couldn't sign one anyway.
> I saw my other team Lowestoft Town beat Ryman
> League One (North) leaders Great Wakersley
> Rovers 3-0 at Crown Meadow on Tuesday and they
> have games in hand that could put the Trawler
> Boys top. How nice it would be if they could
> continue to climb at least to Blue Square level.
> OTBC
> So let's shout it from the roof tops - we are
> on the way up it seems and may it long continue.
> Malcolm Vasey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim Allman
> <mailto:kentoncanary@gmail.com>
> *To:* CN@yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> Now that City are winning, the number of
> messages seems to have reduced, much the
> same as the PinkUn message board.
>
>
> Perhaps as we have less to complain about,
> we all have less to say about the state of
> the nation that is NCFC. Of course it is
> much easier to write something negative
> than positive (no finger pointing here at
> all), it's just the way it is for me.
>
> Looking forward to a day out in
> Southampton tomorrow � it will be our
> toughest game for a while, but at least
> we�ll have a team come and try and play
> against us as opposed to the way that
> Tranmere came and parked the bus last
> Saturday.
>
> Tim
>
> On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:14, Marcel
> <marcel_beren@
> <mailto:marcel_beren@yahoo.com>yahoo.com
> <http://yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I think it's called "wary contentment
> for the moment"
>
> On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:04, "Peter
> Dudley " <pdudley1980@ hotmail.co. uk
> <mailto:pdudley1980@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Dunno but it has gone very quiet out
> there
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Burrell
> <bwburrell@btinterne
> <mailto:bwburrell@btinternet.com>t.com
> <http://t.com>>
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:40:42
> To: <CN@yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:CN@yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: [CN] Has CN stopped?
>
> Has CN stopped?
>
> Brian
>
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From: Zoe Fail <zoesveryhappy@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: Has CN stopped?

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